Which Gospel did the churches at Galatia receive?

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throughfaith

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Yes the church at Corinth had some Jews (1Cor 7:18-19). However, the main part of the body where Gentiles (1Cor 6:9-11, 1Cor 8:7, 1Cor 12:2).

So when Paul says brother in his letter to the Corinthian he is referring to both Jew and Gentile believers. Because gentiles are grafted in. Paul labours this point.


----19 So now you Gentiles are no longer strangers and foreigners. You are citizens along with all of God’s holy people. You are members of God’s family.



----17 But some of these branches from Abraham’s tree—some of the people of Israel—have been broken off. And you Gentiles, who were branches from a wild olive tree, have been grafted in. So now you also receive the blessing God has promised Abraham and his children, sharing in the rich nourishment from the root of God’s special olive tree. 18 But you must not brag about being grafted in to replace the branches that were broken off. You are just a branch, not the root.


So when Paul says brothers in 1 Corinthians 10 he is now referring to all Christians Both Jew and gentile.

----10 Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea; 2 And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea; 3 And did all eat the same spiritual meat; 4 And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.


Here we see Paul says brothers.. that is to all the Christians in Corinth jew and Gentile alike. There is no ''division'' in scripture Paul is showing it's continuity. from OT to NT
1 cor 6
11And such were SOME of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.

Yes SOME gentiles were there also .
But When Paul addresses Jews its obvious ( Our fathers ) This is all through Romans ect .
 

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1 cor 6
11And such were SOME of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.

Yes SOME gentiles were there also .
But When Paul addresses Jews its obvious ( Our fathers ) This is all through Romans ect .

es the church at Corinth had some Jews (1Cor 7:18-19). However, the main part of the body where Gentiles (1Cor 6:9-11, 1Cor 8:7, 1Cor 12:2).

So when Paul says brother in his letter to the Corinthian he is referring to both Jew and Gentile believers. Because gentiles are grafted in. Paul labours this point.


----19 So now you Gentiles are no longer strangers and foreigners. You are citizens along with all of God’s holy people. You are members of God’s family.



----17 But some of these branches from Abraham’s tree—some of the people of Israel—have been broken off. And you Gentiles, who were branches from a wild olive tree, have been grafted in. So now you also receive the blessing God has promised Abraham and his children, sharing in the rich nourishment from the root of God’s special olive tree. 18 But you must not brag about being grafted in to replace the branches that were broken off. You are just a branch, not the root.


So when Paul says brothers in 1 Corinthians 10 he is now referring to all Christians Both Jew and gentile.

----10 Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea; 2 And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea; 3 And did all eat the same spiritual meat; 4 And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.


Here we see Paul says brothers.. that is to all the Christians in Corinth jew and Gentile alike. There is no ''division'' in scripture Paul is showing it's continuity. from OT to NT
 

throughfaith

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#23
es the church at Corinth had some Jews (1Cor 7:18-19). However, the main part of the body where Gentiles (1Cor 6:9-11, 1Cor 8:7, 1Cor 12:2).

So when Paul says brother in his letter to the Corinthian he is referring to both Jew and Gentile believers. Because gentiles are grafted in. Paul labours this point.


----19 So now you Gentiles are no longer strangers and foreigners. You are citizens along with all of God’s holy people. You are members of God’s family.



----17 But some of these branches from Abraham’s tree—some of the people of Israel—have been broken off. And you Gentiles, who were branches from a wild olive tree, have been grafted in. So now you also receive the blessing God has promised Abraham and his children, sharing in the rich nourishment from the root of God’s special olive tree. 18 But you must not brag about being grafted in to replace the branches that were broken off. You are just a branch, not the root.


So when Paul says brothers in 1 Corinthians 10 he is now referring to all Christians Both Jew and gentile.

----10 Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea; 2 And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea; 3 And did all eat the same spiritual meat; 4 And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.


Here we see Paul says brothers.. that is to all the Christians in Corinth jew and Gentile alike. There is no ''division'' in scripture Paul is showing it's continuity. from OT to NT
No it had SOME Gentiles .
 

phil36

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No it had SOME Gentiles .
either way, christians are grafted in.. Jews and gentiles alike. for there is neither Jew nor greek but are all one in Jesus.

So when Paul says brother in his letter to the Corinthian he is referring to both Jew and Gentile believers. Because gentiles are grafted in. Paul labours this point.


----19 So now you Gentiles are no longer strangers and foreigners. You are citizens along with all of God’s holy people. You are members of God’s family.



----17 But some of these branches from Abraham’s tree—some of the people of Israel—have been broken off. And you Gentiles, who were branches from a wild olive tree, have been grafted in. So now you also receive the blessing God has promised Abraham and his children, sharing in the rich nourishment from the root of God’s special olive tree. 18 But you must not brag about being grafted in to replace the branches that were broken off. You are just a branch, not the root.


So when Paul says brothers in 1 Corinthians 10 he is now referring to all Christians Both Jew and gentile.

----10 Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea; 2 And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea; 3 And did all eat the same spiritual meat; 4 And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.


Here we see Paul says brothers.. that is to all the Christians in Corinth jew and Gentile alike. There is no ''division'' in scripture Paul is showing it's continuity. from OT to NT
 
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There is only one gospel, that is that Christ God in the flesh born of a virgin woman lived and taught and did many miracles bore our sins on the cross and entered into death but was resurrected to life and ascended to Heaven and prepares for us who believe in him to be with him forevermore.
 
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One Christ one salvation. There is no salvation outside of Christ.
Christ called Jesus is the Lord and is my savior, there is no salvation out side of Christ.
 

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Where does it say Paul is talking to gentiles here ? :

1¶Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea;

2And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea;

3And did all eat the same spiritual meat;

4And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.

I can't see ' Gentiles ' here ? The majority at corinth would be mainly Jewish. Thats who he is clearly addressing when he says ' our fathers'
You began (post#1) with verses from Paul's Galatians epistle.

Gal 1:1 Paul, an apostle, (not of men, neither by man, but by Jesus Christ, and God the Father, who raised him from the dead 2 and all the brethren which are with me, unto the churches of Galatia:

(MY NOTE: These Churches aren't in Israel they're in Asia Minor (Turkey today). Also, Paul say's Church not Synagogue. Galatians is written post resurrection (see Gal 1:1) Christ is no longer just the savior of the Jew. Christ is Lord & Savior of ALL that place faith in His sin atoning death, burial & resurrection. Paul is speaking to ALL BELIEVERS both Jew & Gentile.

Here (post #5) you're asking to whom is Paul speaking to in 1 Corinthians. Here again, Corinth is in Asia Minor & Paul say's He's writing to the Church of God & ALL BELIEVERS that have been sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints (See 1 Cor 1:2) Here again Paul is writing to Jew & gentile believers.
 

throughfaith

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either way, christians are grafted in.. Jews and gentiles alike. for there is neither Jew nor greek but are all one in Jesus.

So when Paul says brother in his letter to the Corinthian he is referring to both Jew and Gentile believers. Because gentiles are grafted in. Paul labours this point.


----19 So now you Gentiles are no longer strangers and foreigners. You are citizens along with all of God’s holy people. You are members of God’s family.



----17 But some of these branches from Abraham’s tree—some of the people of Israel—have been broken off. And you Gentiles, who were branches from a wild olive tree, have been grafted in. So now you also receive the blessing God has promised Abraham and his children, sharing in the rich nourishment from the root of God’s special olive tree. 18 But you must not brag about being grafted in to replace the branches that were broken off. You are just a branch, not the root.


So when Paul says brothers in 1 Corinthians 10 he is now referring to all Christians Both Jew and gentile.

----10 Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea; 2 And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea; 3 And did all eat the same spiritual meat; 4 And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.


Here we see Paul says brothers.. that is to all the Christians in Corinth jew and Gentile alike. There is no ''division'' in scripture Paul is showing it's continuity. from OT to NT
Let's just say there was three Jews . When Paul says ' Our Fathers ' Even all the gentiles would recognise that Paul is addressing those 3 Jews. Gentiles and ' our fathers ' makes no sense
Read Eph 2 and see if we had ' Father's ' . This is so ridiculous to be even labouring on this this point . Every single time it says ' OUR fathers ' This refers to Jews .
 

throughfaith

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You began (post#1) with verses from Paul's Galatians epistle.

Gal 1:1 Paul, an apostle, (not of men, neither by man, but by Jesus Christ, and God the Father, who raised him from the dead 2 and all the brethren which are with me, unto the churches of Galatia:

(MY NOTE: These Churches aren't in Israel they're in Asia Minor (Turkey today). Also, Paul say's Church not Synagogue. Galatians is written post resurrection (see Gal 1:1) Christ is no longer just the savior of the Jew. Christ is Lord & Savior of ALL that place faith in His sin atoning death, burial & resurrection. Paul is speaking to ALL BELIEVERS both Jew & Gentile.

Here (post #5) you're asking to whom is Paul speaking to in 1 Corinthians. Here again, Corinth is in Asia Minor & Paul say's He's writing to the Church of God & ALL BELIEVERS that have been sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints (See 1 Cor 1:2) Here again Paul is writing to Jew & gentile believers.
My argument isn't that there are no Gentiles . My point is that Paul is addressing Jews when he says ' our Fathers ect . He's referring not to ' His Father's ect .
 

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Let's just say there was three Jews . When Paul says ' Our Fathers ' Even all the gentiles would recognise that Paul is addressing those 3 Jews. Gentiles and ' our fathers ' makes no sense
Read Eph 2 and see if we had ' Father's ' . This is so ridiculous to be even labouring on this this point . Every single time it says ' OUR fathers ' This refers to Jews .

lol your missing the whole point...


What did Jesus teach the Apostles including Paul? Whats going on in 1 Corinthians 10? are the dear friends in the same dialogue different from the brothers?

Anyhow it shows Paul taught Christians using the old testament even showing Jesus from the same OT scriptures.. Just Like Jesus did.


So the answer to your OP question is simple. The gospel of Jesus. We also know that Paul was the last apostle to teach about Jesus.. All the rest where preaching the gospel long before Paul.

Balance is Key here, we have been given the NT (along with OT) so we can see the whole picture. Christ life and teachings and how all that works out in our lives.
 

throughfaith

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lol your missing the whole point...


What did Jesus teach the Apostles including Paul? Whats going on in 1 Corinthians 10? are the dear friends in the same dialogue different from the brothers?

Anyhow it shows Paul taught Christians using the old testament even showing Jesus from the same OT scriptures.. Just Like Jesus did.


So the answer to your OP question is simple. The gospel of Jesus. We also know that Paul was the last apostle to teach about Jesus.. All the rest where preaching the gospel long before Paul.

Balance is Key here, we have been given the NT (along with OT) so we can see the whole picture. Christ life and teachings and how all that works out in our lives.
You say //
What did Jesus teach the Apostles including Paul?//
We have verses where Jesus is teaching things to the diciples . We have the details. Which teachings and at what timeline?

Which verses are you referring where you see Jesus teaching Paul ?

Whats going on in 1 Corinthians 10? are the dear friends in the same dialogue different from the brothers?

///Anyhow it shows Paul taught Christians using the old testament ///
Generalisation . Which verses show towards gentiles ?

///even showing Jesus from the same OT scriptures.. Just Like Jesus did.///
verses ?


// So the answer to your OP question is simple. The gospel of Jesus//

non specific?
Which good news about Jesus. ?
///. We also know that Paul was the last apostle to teach about Jesus.///

Paul

.// All the rest where preaching the gospel long before Paul.// verses please? Paul is saved in Acts 9 . Peter and the rest have no clue until Acts 11

Balance is Key here, we have been given the NT (along with OT) so we can see the whole picture. Christ life and teachings and how all that works out in our lives.// Yes WE have haven't WE . We can read a complete Bible. God didn't stop speaking at Peter. Without Paul's revelation we wouldn't have a clue .
 

throughfaith

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lol your missing the whole point...


What did Jesus teach the Apostles including Paul? Whats going on in 1 Corinthians 10? are the dear friends in the same dialogue different from the brothers?

Anyhow it shows Paul taught Christians using the old testament even showing Jesus from the same OT scriptures.. Just Like Jesus did.


So the answer to your OP question is simple. The gospel of Jesus. We also know that Paul was the last apostle to teach about Jesus.. All the rest where preaching the gospel long before Paul.

Balance is Key here, we have been given the NT (along with OT) so we can see the whole picture. Christ life and teachings and how all that works out in our lives.
I think what's getting in the way is the way you have decided to read the bible.
 

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Where does it say Paul is talking to gentiles here ? :

1¶Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea;

2And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea;

3And did all eat the same spiritual meat;

4And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.

I can't see ' Gentiles ' here ? The majority at corinth would be mainly Jewish. Thats who he is clearly addressing when he says ' our fathers'
Those who followed Moses were a "mixed crowd". The Jews were slaves, they had been in Egypt for 210 years, most of them as slaves who were worked from daylight to dusk. They were no longer devout Jews, learned in the ways of the Lord. On top of that, by saying they were a mixed crowd we know many other nationalities were mixed in. All of these were formed into Israelites during the 40 years they spent in the desert---it was a time of teaching them about the Lord.

From this, we are to know that the Lord is the Lord of all man, that the lord wants all men to come to Him and know the truth of our lives here on earth.
 

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We, having been adopted and placed into the original vine, are now descendants of Abraham making the Patriarchs our fathers also. Jesus-Yeshua is able to make sons of Abraham out of the very stones.

Abraham may be translated fully to English as Honored Father of the Peoples.
 

throughfaith

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Those who followed Moses were a "mixed crowd". The Jews were slaves, they had been in Egypt for 210 years, most of them as slaves who were worked from daylight to dusk. They were no longer devout Jews, learned in the ways of the Lord. On top of that, by saying they were a mixed crowd we know many other nationalities were mixed in. All of these were formed into Israelites during the 40 years they spent in the desert---it was a time of teaching them about the Lord.

From this, we are to know that the Lord is the Lord of all man, that the lord wants all men to come to Him and know the truth of our lives here on earth.
Matthew 15:24

“But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.”
 

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Which Gospel did the churches at Galatia receive?


The dammed teachers Paul spoke of taught grace + law = salvation
In other words, salvation hinged on man’s action and deed.

Sound familiar?
 

throughfaith

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Which Gospel did the churches at Galatia receive?


The dammed teachers Paul spoke of taught grace + law = salvation
In other words, salvation hinged on man’s action and deed.

Sound familiar?
Yes to go back under the law .

This is cleared up here in Acts 15
5But there rose up certain of the sect of the Pharisees which believed, saying, That it was needful to circumcise them, and to command them to keep the law of Moses.

6¶And the apostles and elders came together for to consider of this matter.

7And when there had been much disputing, Peter rose up, and said unto them, Men and brethren, ye know how that a good while ago God made choice among us, that the Gentiles by my mouth should hear the word of the gospel, and believe.

8And God, which knoweth the hearts, bare them witness, giving them the Holy Ghost, even as he did unto us;

9And put no difference between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith.

10Now therefore why tempt ye God, to put a yoke upon the neck of the disciples, which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear?

11But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved, even as they.


19Wherefore my sentence is, that we trouble not them, which from among the Gentiles are turned to God:

20But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood.


So to not notice the correct divisions and assuming there is no difference between the Ot and Nt leads to legalistic denominations. Like Calvisnism which is the most subtle on works salvation AKa Lordship salvation, which leads to bodage .

Today its also Lorship salvation
 

throughfaith

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Which Gospel did the churches at Galatia receive?


The dammed teachers Paul spoke of taught grace + law = salvation
In other words, salvation hinged on man’s action and deed.

Sound familiar?
They were tempting people to go back to the old system of Moses . This would be 'another Gospel 'than THEY received . So its hardly ONE good news or one message through out all the bible is it?
 

throughfaith

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Yes to go back under the law .

This is cleared up here in Acts 15
5But there rose up certain of the sect of the Pharisees which believed, saying, That it was needful to circumcise them, and to command them to keep the law of Moses.

6¶And the apostles and elders came together for to consider of this matter.

7And when there had been much disputing, Peter rose up, and said unto them, Men and brethren, ye know how that a good while ago God made choice among us, that the Gentiles by my mouth should hear the word of the gospel, and believe.

8And God, which knoweth the hearts, bare them witness, giving them the Holy Ghost, even as he did unto us;

9And put no difference between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith.

10Now therefore why tempt ye God, to put a yoke upon the neck of the disciples, which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear?

11But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved, even as they.


19Wherefore my sentence is, that we trouble not them, which from among the Gentiles are turned to God:

20But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood.


So to not notice the correct divisions and assuming there is no difference between the Ot and Nt leads to legalistic denominations. Like Calvisnism which is the most subtle on works salvation AKa Lordship salvation, which leads to bodage .

Today its also Lorship salvation
* bondage even .
 

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Matthew 15:24

“But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.”
Based on this scripture, and assuming you are a gentile, do you use this scripture to deny Christ as your savior?