Which Gospel did the churches at Galatia receive?

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Blik said:
Based on this scripture, and assuming you are a gentile, do you use this scripture to deny Christ as your savior?
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I read what the Lord Jesus said in that verse and i believe him . ( Yes I'm a gentile ,saved by believing the Gospel of grace .By his death ,his blood and his life ( resurrection) None of that happened when he said those words . God did not stop speaking in the four Gospels . You must keep reading past them and onto the book of Acts ,leading to Paul's letters .
 
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This is odd to me. I only know of one Gospel and both Jesus and Paul preached it. Paul didn't say anything contrary or to contradict Jesus that I know of...

Why does it seem so many people have a problem with living right? Why would anyone not want to follow Jesus' teachings and/or teach others that it is ok not to follow the teachings of the Lord? Seems really odd to me...just saying
 
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NOV25 said:
Which Gospel did the churches at Galatia receive?


The dammed teachers Paul spoke of taught grace + law = salvation
In other words, salvation hinged on man’s action and deed.

Sound familiar?
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Well, you can't earn salvation by or through works. But once saved you will work, and if his Spirit be in you then you will bring forth fruit. If you don't have the Spirit of God then you are none of his. Those with the Spirit of God will work. That's pretty simple.
 
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1ofthem said:
This is odd to me. I only know of one Gospel and both Jesus and Paul preached it. Paul didn't say anything contrary or to contradict Jesus that I know of...

Why does it seem so many people have a problem with living right? Why would anyone not want to follow Jesus' teachings and/or teach others that it is ok not to follow the teachings of the Lord? Seems really odd to me...just saying
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When you say you only Know of one Good news this implies you have verses which say in a nut shell what this good news is that you speak of ? The good news Jesus was sharing was not good news for Gentiles . Jesus was not speaking to you..He wasn't speaking to any one outside of Israel .
 
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When you say you only Know of one Good news this implies you have verses which say in a nut shell what this good news is that you speak of ? The good news Jesus was sharing was not good news for Gentiles . Jesus was not speaking to you..He wasn't speaking to any one outside of Israel .
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So we weren't grafted in the vine, huh? And we don't need to follow the teachings of Jesus?

This is totally odd to me. Seriously what is wrong with repenting, living right, and following the Lord. Because we are gentiles does that mean we can live like the devil, but the Jews need to live holy and follow Jesus. I seriously doubt it.
 
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1ofthem said:
So we weren't grafted in the vine, huh? And we don't need to follow the teachings of Jesus?

This is totally odd to me. Seriously what is wrong with repenting, living right, and following the Lord. Because we are gentiles does that mean we can live like the devil, but the Jews need to live holy and follow Jesus. I seriously doubt it.
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We were not grafted in when Jesus was speaking in the Four Gospels . When he was ONLY speaking to Israel.
 
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Why are so many sick and weak in the church today? Is it not because they are not raising up the standard and following the Lord.

We need to be raising up the standard and following the Lord and teach others to do so as well. Paul no where, that I have read told anyone it was ok to go against the teachings of Jesus or to live unholy, unrepentant, disobedient, unthankful lives.
 
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Sorry but I'm getting really tired of watching people preach a little weak Jesus that can't help people to overcome sin.

That is not true and what did Paul say about it. I can do all things through Christ which strengthens me.

Romans 8
11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.

12 Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh.

13 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.

14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.

Who was this written to?
 
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Thats called post hoc rationalization.
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So by your reasoning only the Jews should live holy lives and follow Jesus teachings? Sorry but that makes no sense to me.
 
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1ofthem said:
So by your reasoning only the Jews should live holy lives and follow Jesus teachings? Sorry but that makes no sense to me.
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Why take Jesus words for Israel and misapply them ? Is this believing what Jesus said ?
 
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throughfaith said:
Why take Jesus words for Israel and misapply them ? Is this believing what Jesus said ?
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What is it that Jesus taught the Jews that you think wouldn't or shouldn't apply to the gentiles?
 
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1ofthem said:
What is it that Jesus taught the Jews that you think wouldn't or shouldn't apply to the gentiles?
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That's not how it works . Where in the bible does it say " take verses that apply to Israel and apply them to you if they fit " ? So much is missed by doing this .
 
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That's not how it works . Where in the bible does it say " take verses that apply to Israel and apply them to you if they fit " ? So much is missed by doing this .
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Why would they not apply? If we are grafted in and adopted then we will need to follow the same teachings. There is no Jew or gentile anymore we are all the children of God.
 
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1ofthem said:
Why would they not apply? If we are grafted in and adopted then we will need to follow the same teachings. There is no Jew or gentile anymore we are all the children of God.
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Being grafted in has nothing to do with applying instructions to a specific people at a specific time . There is no Jew or gentile in a context. Meaning ' in Christ ' . But Israel is still Israel out side of ' the body ' . They as a nation still exist and they will return to the Lord in future . In Christ these distinctions , male , female ect are not a basis for favour ect . Why not apply Moses s teaching s to the Church? People cherry pick the verses Jesus spoke when he came to Israel.
 
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throughfaith said:
That's not how it works . Where in the bible does it say " take verses that apply to Israel and apply them to you if they fit " ? So much is missed by doing this .
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In over 50 verses of scripture the bible tells us that something told to Israel applies to the strangers or the sojourners. The strangers and sojourners were gentiles.

Scripture is truth, no matter what group it is speaking to.
 
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Blik said:
In over 50 verses of scripture the bible tells us that something told to Israel applies to the strangers or the sojourners. The strangers and sojourners were gentiles.

Scripture is truth, no matter what group it is speaking to.
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The "strangers and sojourners" are those non-Israelites who joined themselves to ancient Israel.

Gentile Christians aren't in that category.
 
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1ofthem said:
This is odd to me. I only know of one Gospel and both Jesus and Paul preached it. Paul didn't say anything contrary or to contradict Jesus that I know of...

Why does it seem so many people have a problem with living right? Why would anyone not want to follow Jesus' teachings and/or teach others that it is ok not to follow the teachings of the Lord? Seems really odd to me...just saying
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A simple example is the following

Matthew 6

14 For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you:

15 But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.

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Matthew 18:35

"This is how my heavenly father will treat each of you unless you forgive your brother from your heart"

But when we come to the apostle Paul, here is what he said

Ephesians 4:32 And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ's sake hath forgiven you.

Would you teach others now that God's forgiveness of your sins is conditional on you forgiving others?
 
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Blik said:
In over 50 verses of scripture the bible tells us that something told to Israel applies to the strangers or the sojourners. The strangers and sojourners were gentiles.

Scripture is truth, no matter what group it is speaking to.
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If the stranger became a prosylete . Today that is no longer the requirement.
 
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