Which laws are and are not valid?
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re for new believers and older believers, born not of the flesh, nor of the will of man,but of God. >>
i.e. not understood by the world nor by the carnal (most 'christians') because revelation is needed >>>
[SUP]"14 [/SUP]“And to the angel of the church in La-odice′a write: ‘The words of the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of God’s creation.
[SUP]15 [/SUP]“‘I know your works: you are neither cold nor hot. Would that you were cold or hot! [SUP]16 [/SUP]So, because you are lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spew you out of my mouth. [SUP]17 [/SUP]For you say, I am rich, I have prospered, and I need nothing; not knowing that you are wretched, pitiable, poor, blind, and naked. [SUP]18 [/SUP]Therefore I counsel you to buy from me gold refined by fire, that you may be rich, and white garments to clothe you and to keep the shame of your nakedness from being seen, and salve to anoint your eyes, that you may see. [SUP]19 [/SUP]Those whom I love, I reprove and chasten; so be zealous and repent. "
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"7 “And to the angel of the church in Philadelphia write: ‘The words of the holy one, the true one, who has the key of David, who opens and no one shall shut, who shuts and no one opens.
8 “‘I know your works. Behold, I have set before you an open door, which no one is able to shut; I know that you have but little power, and yet you have kept my word and have not denied my name. "
i.e. not understood by the world nor by the carnal (most 'christians') because revelation is needed >>>
[SUP]"14 [/SUP]“And to the angel of the church in La-odice′a write: ‘The words of the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of God’s creation.
[SUP]15 [/SUP]“‘I know your works: you are neither cold nor hot. Would that you were cold or hot! [SUP]16 [/SUP]So, because you are lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spew you out of my mouth. [SUP]17 [/SUP]For you say, I am rich, I have prospered, and I need nothing; not knowing that you are wretched, pitiable, poor, blind, and naked. [SUP]18 [/SUP]Therefore I counsel you to buy from me gold refined by fire, that you may be rich, and white garments to clothe you and to keep the shame of your nakedness from being seen, and salve to anoint your eyes, that you may see. [SUP]19 [/SUP]Those whom I love, I reprove and chasten; so be zealous and repent. "
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"7 “And to the angel of the church in Philadelphia write: ‘The words of the holy one, the true one, who has the key of David, who opens and no one shall shut, who shuts and no one opens.
8 “‘I know your works. Behold, I have set before you an open door, which no one is able to shut; I know that you have but little power, and yet you have kept my word and have not denied my name. "
In truth a blanket covering to the entire precepts given the Israel via Moses cannot be correct. I agree that their was a change in the law concerning the temple and the Levitcal priesthood. If one says that the entire law has been made void, then so is the law of love, unless of course we make up our own interpretation of it as to what we want to believe in half truth which is no truth. I do not accept that the Old Covenants contents was made void. It is only the covenant, not what it contained. If the law was made void then Paul would have never said faith is what establishes it. Ya cannot establish something that doesn't exist.
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The law only says to circumcise the foreskin of the heart. That is also new testament doctrine. Physical circumcision was not first endorsed through Moses. It was never a part of the original law physically, but circumcising of the heart was and is a substantial part contrary to being stiff-necked, as you endorse "I wish they would go the whole way and emasculate themselves."
Jesus disagrees (Mt 22:40).
Which is precisely what the NT states:
The entire Mosaic regulations regarding defilement, purification, foods, sacrifices, priesthood, ceremonies, feasts, blessings and curses
have been set aside (Heb 7:18) and
the old covenant made obsolete (Heb 8:13)
because they were weak and useless (unprofitable) to make perfect,
and a better hope is introduced in the new covenant (Heb 7:18-19; Lk 22:20)
where the Mosaic law on which the old covenant was based
has been replaced with the Law of Christ (Mt 22:37-40; 1Co 9:21; Gal 6:2)
which has no curse for imperfect obedience, and which fulfills, accomplished, completes, finishes
the law of Moses (Mt 22:40) as a means of righteousness by law keeping.
Nope. . .not according to the Law of Christ. . .you're making it up again as you go along.
The Law of Christ is given for the new covenant (Lk 22:20) and
is the law written on our hearts (Jer 31:32) by the Holy Spirit.
The "own interpretation" taking place here is the one which denies the clear NT teaching
in Heb 7:18-19, 8:13, 1Co 9:21, Gal 6:2; Mt 22:37-40; Lk 22:20, etc.
Is that why you keep altering, futzing and embellishing the NT word of God,
because you regard it as only "half truth" which you need to complete?
Yuck. . .
Oh, for cryin' out loud. . .the covenant is what it contained. . .that's all it is.
The law given to the people (Heb 7:11) at Sinai was
fulfilled by Christ (Mt 5:17)--accomplished, completed, finished as justification,
changed with the change of the priesthood (Heb 7:11-12),
set aside as weak and useless (unprofitable) to make perfect (Heb 7:18-19),
abolished in the flesh of Christ on the cross (Eph 2:15) as the means of justification,
replaced with the Law of Christ (Mt 22:37-40; 1Co 9:20-21) in the new covenant (Lk 22:20).
This is the word of God spoken in the words of the Son in these last days (Heb 1:1-2)
through the NT writers.
The Holy Spirit give us to believe the NT word of God it, not to try to unseat its clear teaching.
It is not the Spirit of God who seeks to unseat the clear teaching of the word of God,
which he himself authored in Heb 7:11-12, 18-19; Eph 2:15; Mt 22:37-40; 1Co 9:20-21, etc.
"Doesn't exist" is your own misrepresentation of what the NT actually states. . .
You do a lotta' that.
The law which has been set aside as justification can be established it on its right basis. . .
subject to the law of grace,
not as a means of justification/righteousness,
only as a means of sanctification/righteousness through the obedience of faith by the Holy Spirit,
powerless to curse or to make holy, which is the work of the Holy Spirit through obedience to God's NT commands, instructions and exhortations.
Stop it with the pious posterings and deliberate misrepresentation of your unbelief in the NT word of God. . .
Which is precisely what the NT states:
The entire Mosaic regulations regarding defilement, purification, foods, sacrifices, priesthood, ceremonies, feasts, blessings and curses
have been set aside (Heb 7:18) and
the old covenant made obsolete (Heb 8:13)
because they were weak and useless (unprofitable) to make perfect,
and a better hope is introduced in the new covenant (Heb 7:18-19; Lk 22:20)
where the Mosaic law on which the old covenant was based
has been replaced with the Law of Christ (Mt 22:37-40; 1Co 9:21; Gal 6:2)
which has no curse for imperfect obedience, and which fulfills, accomplished, completes, finishes
the law of Moses (Mt 22:40) as a means of righteousness by law keeping.
Nope. . .not according to the Law of Christ. . .you're making it up again as you go along.
The Law of Christ is given for the new covenant (Lk 22:20) and
is the law written on our hearts (Jer 31:32) by the Holy Spirit.
The "own interpretation" taking place here is the one which denies the clear NT teaching
in Heb 7:18-19, 8:13, 1Co 9:21, Gal 6:2; Mt 22:37-40; Lk 22:20, etc.
Is that why you keep altering, futzing and embellishing the NT word of God,
because you regard it as only "half truth" which you need to complete?
Yuck. . .
Oh, for cryin' out loud. . .the covenant is what it contained. . .that's all it is.
The law given to the people (Heb 7:11) at Sinai was
fulfilled by Christ (Mt 5:17)--accomplished, completed, finished as justification,
changed with the change of the priesthood (Heb 7:11-12),
set aside as weak and useless (unprofitable) to make perfect (Heb 7:18-19),
abolished in the flesh of Christ on the cross (Eph 2:15) as the means of justification,
replaced with the Law of Christ (Mt 22:37-40; 1Co 9:20-21) in the new covenant (Lk 22:20).
This is the word of God spoken in the words of the Son in these last days (Heb 1:1-2)
through the NT writers.
The Holy Spirit give us to believe the NT word of God it, not to try to unseat its clear teaching.
It is not the Spirit of God who seeks to unseat the clear teaching of the word of God,
which he himself authored in Heb 7:11-12, 18-19; Eph 2:15; Mt 22:37-40; 1Co 9:20-21, etc.
"Doesn't exist" is your own misrepresentation of what the NT actually states. . .
You do a lotta' that.
The law which has been set aside as justification can be established it on its right basis. . .
subject to the law of grace,
not as a means of justification/righteousness,
only as a means of sanctification/righteousness through the obedience of faith by the Holy Spirit,
powerless to curse or to make holy, which is the work of the Holy Spirit through obedience to God's NT commands, instructions and exhortations.
Stop it with the pious posterings and deliberate misrepresentation of your unbelief in the NT word of God. . .
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Ah.. and from mercy also 
God bless you brother!
Rom 8
33. Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? [It is] God that justifieth.
34. Who [is] he that condemneth? [It is] Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.
35. Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? [shall] tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?
36. As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.
37. Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.
38. For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,
39. Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
God bless you brother!
Rom 8
33. Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? [It is] God that justifieth.
34. Who [is] he that condemneth? [It is] Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.
35. Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? [shall] tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?
36. As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.
37. Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.
38. For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,
39. Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Gal.5:18-26
18. But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.
19. Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are [these]; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
20. Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
21. Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told [you] in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
22. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
23. Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
24. And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.
25. If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.
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18. But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.
19. Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are [these]; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
20. Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
21. Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told [you] in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
22. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
23. Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
24. And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.
25. If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.
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Does that include the 'Ten Commandments' ? They no longer apply ?
"Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil."
" For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled."
"Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil."
" For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled."
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