Who are the two witnesses in revelation
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You had made me upset what you had just posted about the tooth fairy leaving dollars behind, while I was getting a dime for every tooth that I'd left under my pillow, even though some of the teeth weren't mine.
The Two were the ones that had served God only. Moses could of had a fun time being with the Egyptians in a cultivating environment but he choose to be an outcast suffering with his people. And John choose to be an outcast also. They both brought in the word of God. The other prophets didn't brought in nothing, but they had help carried them through. Moses is the symbol for the Laws and the John is the symbol for spiritual cleanliness.
Acts 13:39
Through him everyone who believes is set free from every sin, a justification you were not able to obtain under the law of Moses.
Hebrews 3:5
“Moses was faithful as a servant in all God’s house,” bearing witness to what would be spoken by God in the future.
John 5:45
“But do not think I will accuse you before the Father. Your accuser is Moses, on whom your hopes are set.
Acts 13:25
As John was completing his work, he said: ‘Who do you suppose I am? I am not the one you are looking for. But there is one coming after me whose sandals I am not worthy to untie.’
John 5:46If you believed Moses, you would believe me, for he wrote about me.
John 1:7He came as a witness to testify concerning that light, so that through him all might believe.
The Two were the ones that had served God only. Moses could of had a fun time being with the Egyptians in a cultivating environment but he choose to be an outcast suffering with his people. And John choose to be an outcast also. They both brought in the word of God. The other prophets didn't brought in nothing, but they had help carried them through. Moses is the symbol for the Laws and the John is the symbol for spiritual cleanliness.
Acts 13:39
Through him everyone who believes is set free from every sin, a justification you were not able to obtain under the law of Moses.
Hebrews 3:5
“Moses was faithful as a servant in all God’s house,” bearing witness to what would be spoken by God in the future.
John 5:45
“But do not think I will accuse you before the Father. Your accuser is Moses, on whom your hopes are set.
Acts 13:25
As John was completing his work, he said: ‘Who do you suppose I am? I am not the one you are looking for. But there is one coming after me whose sandals I am not worthy to untie.’
John 5:46If you believed Moses, you would believe me, for he wrote about me.
John 1:7He came as a witness to testify concerning that light, so that through him all might believe.
S
So, supposing you are dead right, show me the reference that describes the word candlestick will be a single man. (Maybe Moses or whatever) I want Scriptural references that I do not have to guess upon. I want clear cut evidence as to what you're saying is absolute, without question accurate that candlesticks IS Moses or whatever person you put there.
Can you fulfill that please?
Can you fulfill that please?
Candlesticks were lamps in those times. They pour oil into the container and stick a wick of some sort. The oil that they use was olive oil and which olive oil had multiple purpose. It was also use for healing, purifying the foods (frying) and anointing. Candle was symbolic for light in the dark and since we are in the dark, the word enlighten us. So the candles were the gospel of the two witnesses. So if we say we are without sin, the gospel of Moses will condemn us or uncover our sins.
The 2 witnesses are sent to Israel to turn their hearts to the truth that Jesus is their Messiah and God.
The 2 witnesses are probably Elijah and either Moses or Enoch.
I am thinking that it would be Enoch and Elijah for both were caught up while alive but it might be Moses and Elijah who were on the mount with Jesus that the disciples witnessed.
[SUP]11 [/SUP]Then answered I, and said unto him, What are these two olive trees upon the right side of the candlestick and upon the left side thereof?
[SUP]12 [/SUP]And I answered again, and said unto him, What be these two olive branches which through the two golden pipes empty the golden oil out of themselves?
[SUP]13 [/SUP]And he answered me and said, Knowest thou not what these be? And I said, No, my lord.
[SUP]14 [/SUP]Then said he, These are the two anointed ones, that stand by the Lord of the whole earth(Zechariah 4:11-14).
[SUP]3 [/SUP]And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.
[SUP]4 [/SUP]These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth(Revelation 11:3-4).
The 2 witnesses are probably Elijah and either Moses or Enoch.
I am thinking that it would be Enoch and Elijah for both were caught up while alive but it might be Moses and Elijah who were on the mount with Jesus that the disciples witnessed.
[SUP]11 [/SUP]Then answered I, and said unto him, What are these two olive trees upon the right side of the candlestick and upon the left side thereof?
[SUP]12 [/SUP]And I answered again, and said unto him, What be these two olive branches which through the two golden pipes empty the golden oil out of themselves?
[SUP]13 [/SUP]And he answered me and said, Knowest thou not what these be? And I said, No, my lord.
[SUP]14 [/SUP]Then said he, These are the two anointed ones, that stand by the Lord of the whole earth(Zechariah 4:11-14).
[SUP]3 [/SUP]And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.
[SUP]4 [/SUP]These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth(Revelation 11:3-4).
T
The two witnesses are 2 actual people, not nations, not testaments, not churches, not actual lamp stands and not angels.
It is not Moses, because he was not allowed to enter into the promised land[see Deut 34.4, Numbers 20.12] because of his disobedience at The Water of Meribah and if he prophesied during the time period in Rev 11, which is Jerusalem, because they prophesy in the same city where the Lord was crucified, Jesus laid himself down in Jerusalem [See Rev 11.8]. So if Moses was one of the 2 witnesses this would make God a liar and God is not a man that he should lie[See Numbers 23.19. So because of what the Bible says, Moses is ruled out and not one of the 2 witnesses
One is Elijah, because the Bible tells us so [See Malachi 4.5] The Day of The Lord is recorded in Rev 19 and the 2 Witnesses are in Rev 11.
I believe the other prophet is Enoch, because he never did die or see natural death for God took him. [See Gen 5.23-25, Hebrews 11.5]
Jude also quotes Enoch in Jude 13-15 and this gives us insight that Enoch knew what the end of days were by revelation
It is not Moses, because he was not allowed to enter into the promised land[see Deut 34.4, Numbers 20.12] because of his disobedience at The Water of Meribah and if he prophesied during the time period in Rev 11, which is Jerusalem, because they prophesy in the same city where the Lord was crucified, Jesus laid himself down in Jerusalem [See Rev 11.8]. So if Moses was one of the 2 witnesses this would make God a liar and God is not a man that he should lie[See Numbers 23.19. So because of what the Bible says, Moses is ruled out and not one of the 2 witnesses
One is Elijah, because the Bible tells us so [See Malachi 4.5] The Day of The Lord is recorded in Rev 19 and the 2 Witnesses are in Rev 11.
I believe the other prophet is Enoch, because he never did die or see natural death for God took him. [See Gen 5.23-25, Hebrews 11.5]
Jude also quotes Enoch in Jude 13-15 and this gives us insight that Enoch knew what the end of days were by revelation
i want us to read Revelation 15:2-4
And I saw what looked like a sea of glass glowing with fire and, standing beside the sea, those who had been victorious over the beast and its image and over the number of its name. They held harps given them by God and sang the song of God’s servant Moses and of the Lamb:
“Great and marvelous are your deeds,
Lord God Almighty.
Just and true are your ways,
King of the nations.
Who will not fear you, Lord,
and bring glory to your name?
For you alone are holy.
All nations will come
and worship before you,
for your righteous acts have been revealed.”
sure sounds like one group of people. to be sure, a people taken from all nations - but in one group, and sure looks like the song they sing is given in the rest of v. 3 and in v.4 -- and it is one song. the bible i am looking at has a footnote:
Phrases in this song are drawn from Psalm 111:2,3; Deut. 32:4; Jer. 10:7; Psalms 86:9; 98:2.
And I saw what looked like a sea of glass glowing with fire and, standing beside the sea, those who had been victorious over the beast and its image and over the number of its name. They held harps given them by God and sang the song of God’s servant Moses and of the Lamb:
“Great and marvelous are your deeds,
Lord God Almighty.
Just and true are your ways,
King of the nations.
Who will not fear you, Lord,
and bring glory to your name?
For you alone are holy.
All nations will come
and worship before you,
for your righteous acts have been revealed.”
sure sounds like one group of people. to be sure, a people taken from all nations - but in one group, and sure looks like the song they sing is given in the rest of v. 3 and in v.4 -- and it is one song. the bible i am looking at has a footnote:
Phrases in this song are drawn from Psalm 111:2,3; Deut. 32:4; Jer. 10:7; Psalms 86:9; 98:2.
[h=3]Revelation 14[/h]King James Version (KJV)
14 And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads.
[SUP]2 [/SUP]And I heard a voice from heaven, as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of a great thunder: and I heard the voice of harpers harping with their harps:
[SUP]3 [/SUP]And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth.
[SUP]4 [/SUP]These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb.
[SUP]5 [/SUP]And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault before the throne of God
14 And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads.
[SUP]2 [/SUP]And I heard a voice from heaven, as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of a great thunder: and I heard the voice of harpers harping with their harps:
[SUP]3 [/SUP]And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth.
[SUP]4 [/SUP]These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb.
[SUP]5 [/SUP]And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault before the throne of God
Matthew 17
[SUP]10 [/SUP]And his disciples asked him, saying, Why then say the scribes that Elias must first come?
[SUP]11 [/SUP]And Jesus answered and said unto them, Elias truly shall first come, and restore all things.
[SUP]12 [/SUP]But I say unto you, That Elias is come already, and they knew him not, but have done unto him whatsoever they listed. Likewise shall also the Son of man suffer of them.
[SUP]13 [/SUP]Then the disciples understood that he spake unto them of John the Baptist.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]And his disciples asked him, saying, Why then say the scribes that Elias must first come?
[SUP]11 [/SUP]And Jesus answered and said unto them, Elias truly shall first come, and restore all things.
[SUP]12 [/SUP]But I say unto you, That Elias is come already, and they knew him not, but have done unto him whatsoever they listed. Likewise shall also the Son of man suffer of them.
[SUP]13 [/SUP]Then the disciples understood that he spake unto them of John the Baptist.
Zechariah 4
[SUP]11 [/SUP]Then answered I, and said unto him, What are these two olive trees upon the right side of the candlestick and upon the left side thereof?
[SUP]12 [/SUP]And I answered again, and said unto him, What be these two olive branches which through the two golden pipes empty the golden oil out of themselves?
[SUP]13 [/SUP]And he answered me and said, Knowest thou not what these be? And I said, No, my lord.
[SUP]14 [/SUP]Then said he, These are the two anointed ones, that stand by the Lord of the whole earth.
[SUP]11 [/SUP]Then answered I, and said unto him, What are these two olive trees upon the right side of the candlestick and upon the left side thereof?
[SUP]12 [/SUP]And I answered again, and said unto him, What be these two olive branches which through the two golden pipes empty the golden oil out of themselves?
[SUP]13 [/SUP]And he answered me and said, Knowest thou not what these be? And I said, No, my lord.
[SUP]14 [/SUP]Then said he, These are the two anointed ones, that stand by the Lord of the whole earth.
I don't have an answer, because as of now, not revealed to me. However I found it interesting that you named Moses and John because they are both of the tribe of Levi. Yes, Moses represented God's Law and John the Baptist was also a prophet. The Levites were trained to work in the Temple and had no land provisions. Just an observation with no definitive output.
T
Yes they would have to have their glorified bodies at this point, because Flesh and Blood cannot inherit the Kingdom of God [See 1 Cor 15.49-51]
So when they return to earth it will be as Jesus did and in their earthly flesh, they are killed and then 3 days later resurrected and then taken back into Heaven.
So when they return to earth it will be as Jesus did and in their earthly flesh, they are killed and then 3 days later resurrected and then taken back into Heaven.