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Don't talk rubbish!
It is the body that sleeps (Matt 27v52 '...many bodies of the saints which slept arose' hence why cemetries (from the Greek, 'koiman' which means 'put to sleep') are called 'sleeping places'), the soul continues to have consciousness after death, as Paul clearly teaches in 2Cor 5v8 and Phil 1v21,23 and as the Lord Jesus taught in Luke 20v38, '...for all live unto him.'
Is your mind so filled with darkness that you can't even understand the simple plain words of Scripture!
Yahweh Shalom
It is the body that sleeps (Matt 27v52 '...many bodies of the saints which slept arose' hence why cemetries (from the Greek, 'koiman' which means 'put to sleep') are called 'sleeping places'), the soul continues to have consciousness after death, as Paul clearly teaches in 2Cor 5v8 and Phil 1v21,23 and as the Lord Jesus taught in Luke 20v38, '...for all live unto him.'
Is your mind so filled with darkness that you can't even understand the simple plain words of Scripture!
Yahweh Shalom
She is not talking "rubbish". She speaks the truth.
Your erroneous belief takes precedence over what the bible says. Dead people are dead, and will rise. Noplace does the bible say souls will be reunited with bodies. People will get up from the dead and receive new bodies.
Is your mind so filled with tradition that you can't even understand the simple plain words of Scripture?
Your erroneous belief takes precedence over what the bible says. Dead people are dead, and will rise. Noplace does the bible say souls will be reunited with bodies. People will get up from the dead and receive new bodies.
Is your mind so filled with tradition that you can't even understand the simple plain words of Scripture?
T
She is not talking "rubbish". She speaks the truth.
Your erroneous belief takes precedence over what the bible says. Dead people are dead, and will rise. Noplace does the bible say souls will be reunited with bodies. People will get up from the dead and receive new bodies.
Is your mind so filled with tradition that you can't even understand the simple plain words of Scripture?[/quote]
I really got a laugh from that, considering who said it
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Tom
Your erroneous belief takes precedence over what the bible says. Dead people are dead, and will rise. Noplace does the bible say souls will be reunited with bodies. People will get up from the dead and receive new bodies.
Is your mind so filled with tradition that you can't even understand the simple plain words of Scripture?[/quote]
I really got a laugh from that, considering who said it
.Tom
She is not talking "rubbish". She speaks the truth.
Your erroneous belief takes precedence over what the bible says. Dead people are dead, and will rise. Noplace does the bible say souls will be reunited with bodies. People will get up from the dead and receive new bodies.
Is your mind so filled with tradition that you can't even understand the simple plain words of Scripture?[/quote]
I really got a laugh from that, considering who said it.
Tom
Your erroneous belief takes precedence over what the bible says. Dead people are dead, and will rise. Noplace does the bible say souls will be reunited with bodies. People will get up from the dead and receive new bodies.
Is your mind so filled with tradition that you can't even understand the simple plain words of Scripture?[/quote]
I really got a laugh from that, considering who said it
.Tom
M
Through out all the Gospels Jesus says "Verily I say unto you" over 70 times and not once does he say "Verily I say unto you today".
Luk 23:43 And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise.
Compare to this....
Mar 14:30 And Jesus saith unto him, Verily I say unto thee, That this day,evenin this night, before the cock crow twice, thou shalt deny me thrice.
John Gill
Some would remove the stop, and place it after "today", and read the words thus, "I say unto thee today"; as if Christ only signified the time when he said this, and not when the thief should be with him in paradise; which, besides it being senseless, and impertinent, and only contrived to serve an hypothesis, is not agreeably to Christ's usual way of speaking, and contrary to all copies and versions. Moreover, in one of Beza's exemplars it is read, "I say unto thee, οτι σημερον that today thou shalt be with me", &c. and so the Persic and Ethiopic versions seem to read, which destroys this silly criticism. And because this was a matter of great importance, and an instance of amazing grace, that so vile a sinner, one of the chief of sinners, should immediately enter into the kingdom of God, and enjoy uninterrupted, and everlasting communion with him and that it might not be a matter of doubt with him, or others, Christ, who is the "Amen", the faithful witness, and truth itself, prefaces it after this manner: "verily I say unto thee"; it is truth, it may be depended on. This instance of grace stands on record, not to cherish sloth, indolence, security and presumption, but to encourage faith and hope in sensible sinners, in their last moments, and prevent despair. The Papists pretend to know this man's name; they say his name was Disma; and reckon him as a martyr, and have put him in the catalogue of saints, and fixed him on the "twenty fifth" of March.
Adam Clarke
Luke 23:43
To-day shalt thou be with me in paradise - Marcion and the Manichees are reported to have left this verse out of their copies of this evangelist. This saying of our Lord is justly considered as a strong proof of the immateriality of the soul; and it is no wonder that those who have embraced the contrary opinion should endeavor to explain away this meaning. In order to do this, a comma is placed after σημερον, to-day, and then our Lord is supposed to have meant, "Thou shalt be with me after the resurrection I tell thee this, To-Day." I am sorry to find men of great learning and abilities attempting to support this most feeble and worthless criticism. Such support a good cause cannot need; and, in my opinion, even a bad cause must be discredited by it.
Luk 23:43 And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise.
Compare to this....
Mar 14:30 And Jesus saith unto him, Verily I say unto thee, That this day,evenin this night, before the cock crow twice, thou shalt deny me thrice.
John Gill
Some would remove the stop, and place it after "today", and read the words thus, "I say unto thee today"; as if Christ only signified the time when he said this, and not when the thief should be with him in paradise; which, besides it being senseless, and impertinent, and only contrived to serve an hypothesis, is not agreeably to Christ's usual way of speaking, and contrary to all copies and versions. Moreover, in one of Beza's exemplars it is read, "I say unto thee, οτι σημερον that today thou shalt be with me", &c. and so the Persic and Ethiopic versions seem to read, which destroys this silly criticism. And because this was a matter of great importance, and an instance of amazing grace, that so vile a sinner, one of the chief of sinners, should immediately enter into the kingdom of God, and enjoy uninterrupted, and everlasting communion with him and that it might not be a matter of doubt with him, or others, Christ, who is the "Amen", the faithful witness, and truth itself, prefaces it after this manner: "verily I say unto thee"; it is truth, it may be depended on. This instance of grace stands on record, not to cherish sloth, indolence, security and presumption, but to encourage faith and hope in sensible sinners, in their last moments, and prevent despair. The Papists pretend to know this man's name; they say his name was Disma; and reckon him as a martyr, and have put him in the catalogue of saints, and fixed him on the "twenty fifth" of March.
Adam Clarke
Luke 23:43
To-day shalt thou be with me in paradise - Marcion and the Manichees are reported to have left this verse out of their copies of this evangelist. This saying of our Lord is justly considered as a strong proof of the immateriality of the soul; and it is no wonder that those who have embraced the contrary opinion should endeavor to explain away this meaning. In order to do this, a comma is placed after σημερον, to-day, and then our Lord is supposed to have meant, "Thou shalt be with me after the resurrection I tell thee this, To-Day." I am sorry to find men of great learning and abilities attempting to support this most feeble and worthless criticism. Such support a good cause cannot need; and, in my opinion, even a bad cause must be discredited by it.