Who do you think Killed Jesus?

[homwardbound]

I dont understand am I to stand and watch and even help point everyone to the wide gait the path of the many is that what you mean by walking in love 1cor 13;..... Maybe if you will read Mt23;..... Yeshua showed us all how to deal with these types of false teachers is that right or no maybe he was joking around then help me out explain that to me. I know all to well about HATE and LIES lived it for far to long ps Before you start talking about nephilim the fallen ones and gaborim mighty hunters of MEN take some courses and learn hebrew King james and francis bacon will be no excuse. You will not be blameing them when you face the bemah seat or the white throne your choice.

I will not know anyone by thier vain puffed up world knowledge only by the power of the Spirit of God as Paul said. Yet Paul still loved all as Christ did and does love you just please watch out for your and anyones flesh getting in the way, for no flesh seves God, and Jesus is raised in the Spirit as we are too those of us that actually beleive. The fight is with truth not carnal cut downs condemnations or anything of that sort
Okay Brother

 

[homwardbound]

ummm.......
should i take this on?

Domenic....first you have to recant this blasphemy about bestiality in Eden.

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then we can talk about Who Jesus is and why Mary was a virgin and why Joseph, who was also of the Royal Line married her after she was conceived of the Holy Spirit.

God left not one fraction of an inch for error on this.

if the Holy Spirit is in you, you can't get this wrong.

first things first though. dispense with the creepy chimera thing.
until you do, i'm afraid i'm against you.

okay then

Thank You Zone for being forth right honest, and saying it with the Spirit, it is what it is truth is truth and can't be diverted Thank you

 

[homwardbound]

Part one of your question; Domenic....first you have to recant this blasphemy about bestiality in Eden.

It is not blasphemy, nor in good faith to our God will I recant it.
If you want to start on the same page, Lets you and I as Christians, start with Genesis 3:15, and examine that scripture.

Domenic
Genesis 3:15And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.
This took place at the cross of Christ fulfilled 100% actually at the resurrection, Jesus plundered Satans goods, he took the keys and won the war for the prionce of this world has been judged and defeated. Now God is waiting for us all to come to the understanding of this ands then that one and that one ane soon you and all will have 100% praise of God I told you these things in another post and you balked at me okay, go and deny truth if you wish, but brother truth is truth that scripture is filled Genesis 3:15 in Christ
Matthew 5:17Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

Then Christ went and did this exactly and was put on the cross and as he was about to give up the Ghost he:
John 19:30When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost.

So is it filled or not? it is and waht did this death do:
Hebrews 9:15And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance.
Hebrews 9:16For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator.
Hebrews 9:17For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth.

So the death brought brought in a new will and is in force today we are forgiven and by this we are presented to God the Father through Christ as perfect
Then what? we receive new life here and now born again by the Spirit of God and how by the resurrection for we are saved by the life not the death death needed first though to clear the deck otherwise Christ would have to die over and over again
Galatians 3:14He redeemed us in order that the blessing given to Abraham might come to the Gentiles through Christ Jesus, so that by faith we might receive the promise of the Spirit.
Romans 5:10For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.
Colossians 1:21And you, that were sometime alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now hath he reconciled

 

[homwardbound]

Ok read Gensis 3 talks about a serpent outwitting Eve not rapeing her. How does anyone get beastiality out of this??

[SUP]13 [/SUP]And the Lord God said to the woman, What is this you have done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled (cheated, outwitted, and deceived) me, and I ate.

[SUP]15 [/SUP]And I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your offspring and her [SUP][a][/SUP]Offspring; He will bruise and tread your head underfoot, and you will lie in wait and bruise His heel

a Genesis 3:15 Christ fulfills through his victory over Satan the wonderful promise here spoken. See also Isa. 9:6; Matt. 1:23; Luke 1:31; Rom. 16:20; Gal. 4:4; Rev. 12:17

You know I never saw this verse as beiomg interpreted as if Satan had sex with Eve, and still do not see it. Because in the next and through out the Bible from that point on Satan was out to kill the promised Child and thought right away that is was Able and Got Cain to kill Able from being Jealous and this went on and on all thw way to 12 tribes and Satan really bering confused was so convinced to kill anyone that could be the messiah that Herod killed babies two and under and so on and so forth the devil wass so bent on killing the savior that he had no thought on waht killing him would do and bring to us which is life more abundantly in the new Spirit of God given to us Wow!!!!!!!!!!!! what a great Salvation
Domenic and all I hope yuo allare listening to the Spirit and have ears to the life here and now offered by the Spirit of god ands through the Spirit of God via the cross death, burial, and resurrection

 

[homwardbound]

beguiled is an od Engish word...it also means sexual intercourse. 3:15, God speaks about Satans seed?

beguiled past participle, past tense of be·guile (Verb)[TABLE="class: vk_txt ts"]
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1. Charm or enchant (someone), sometimes in a deceptive way: "every prominent American artist has been beguiled by Maine"; "a beguiling smile".
2. Trick (someone) into doing something.

be·guile (b

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tr.v. be·guiled, be·guil·ing, be·guiles 1. To deceive by guile; delude. See Synonyms at deceive.
2. To take away from by or as if by guile; cheat: a disease that has beguiled me of strength.
3. To distract the attention of; divert: "to beguile you from the grief of a loss so overwhelming" (Abraham Lincoln).
4. To pass (time) pleasantly.
5. To amuse or charm; delight. See Synonyms at charm.
1. Treacherous cunning; skillful deceit.
2. Obsolete A trick or stratagem.
tr.v. guiled, guil·ing, guiles Archaic To beguile; deceive.

[HR][/HR][Middle English, from Old French, of Germanic origin; akin to Old English wigle, divination, sorcery.]

No sex tricked decieved, into eating from the tree of evil, that masquersades as good, they were both tricked into eating from this tree. God said that if they did they would die, nothing said about sex
This is another deception from the evil one to thwart, decieve beguile and is only conjecture subverting truth


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[loveme1]

I have to say i believe we are given a censored account of something that came to pass.. i'm not saying it included "animals" and "sex" because i know not.

What i will say is that there are Cain sympathizers in this world.

Some believe the serpent to of been helping Adam and Eve escape...

There are people that worship owls because they see in the darkness...

There are people that are being beguiled by evil in this world.

We are not of those people and must be wise to their devices yet as gentle as doves

Peace and Love to you all.

 

[stek]

beguiled is an od Engish word...it also means sexual intercourse. 3:15, God speaks about Satans seed?

hebrew word 5377 nasha' naw-shaw' a primitive root; to lead astray, i.e. (mentally) to delude, or (morally) to seduce:--beguile, deceive, X greatly, X utterly.


[h=2]be·guile[/h]/bɪˈgaɪl/ Show Spelled [bih-gahyl] Show IPA
verb (used with object), be·guiled, be·guil·ing. 1. to influence by trickery, flattery, etc.; mislead; delude.

2. to take away from by cheating or deceiving (usually followed by of ): to be beguiled of money.

3. to charm or divert: a multitude of attractions to beguile the tourist.

4. to pass (time) pleasantly: beguiling the long afternoon with a good book.





I do not believe it was a sexual matter, remember Adam part took also after Eve. Are you suggesting Adam had sex with Satan also???

Genesis 3:15 while talking about offspring it is the curse between her Offspring and (Satan's) offspring. Her's being Christ, Who is Satan's offspring?

 

[Domenic]

hebrew word 5377 nasha' naw-shaw' a primitive root; to lead astray, i.e. (mentally) to delude, or (morally) to seduce:--beguile, deceive, X greatly, X utterly.


be·guile

/bɪˈgaɪl/ Show Spelled [bih-gahyl] Show IPA
verb (used with object), be·guiled, be·guil·ing. 1. to influence by trickery, flattery, etc.; mislead; delude.

2. to take away from by cheating or deceiving (usually followed by of ): to be beguiled of money.

3. to charm or divert: a multitude of attractions to beguile the tourist.

4. to pass (time) pleasantly: beguiling the long afternoon with a good book.





I do not believe it was a sexual matter, remember Adam part took also after Eve. Are you suggesting Adam had sex with Satan also???

Genesis 3:15 while talking about offspring it is the curse between her Offspring and (Satan's) offspring. Her's being Christ, Who is Satan's offspring?

Cain and Able are Satans childern...that is why they are not listed as Adams childern...the first listed is Seth. Why?

 

[stek]

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Cain and Able are Satans childern...that is why they are not listed as Adams childern...the first listed is Seth. Why?

So I am to believe that Eve had sex with Satan twice, Adam who part took of the fruit also had sex with Satan.

Try reading Genesis 4. Cain and Abel were not necessarily born at the same time. Cain first born was cursed by God because he offered to God the fruits of the ground which God had cursed. He presented the product of his own toil, the work of his own hands, and God refused to receive it. Cain later Kills Abel and then leaves the land and from the face of God. Leaving Adam and Eve without any sons. Then enters Seth.

[h=3]Genesis 4[/h]Amplified Bible (AMP)


4 And Adam knew Eve as his wife, and she became pregnant and bore Cain; and she said, I have gotten and gained a man with the help of the Lord. Guess Lord should be replaced with Satan???

Genesis 4
New International Version (NIV)

[h=3]Cain and Abel
4 Adam[SUP][a][/SUP] made love to his wife Eve, and she became pregnant and gave birth to Cain.[SUP][b][/SUP] She said, “With the help of the Lord I have brought forth[SUP][c][/SUP] a man.”New King James Version (NKJV)

Cain Murders Abel4 Now Adam knew Eve his wife, and she conceived and bore Cain, and said, “I have acquired a man from the Lord

[/h]All three version say from the Lord not Satan

 

[wdeaton65]

I will not know anyone by thier vain puffed up world knowledge only by the power of the Spirit of God as Paul said. Yet Paul still loved all as Christ did and does love you just please watch out for your and anyones flesh getting in the way, for no flesh seves God, and Jesus is raised in the Spirit as we are too those of us that actually beleive. The fight is with truth not carnal cut downs condemnations or anything of that sort
Okay Brother

homewardbound last time please show me and high light it where I have CONDEMNED ANYONE Mt. 7;1 says "CONDMN NOT" it does not say judge not. Show me where I have done such a thing. Thanks

 

[homwardbound]

homewardbound last time please show me and high light it where I have CONDEMNED ANYONE Mt. 7;1 says "CONDMN NOT" it does not say judge not. Show me where I have done such a thing. Thanks

Only you know whether you have or not I have not said you have I am not your Judge, you know this why try to take me in a flesh fight you said and then he said, my flesh sword is dead, I am not judging you nor condeming you. Flesh fights that were going on have thankfully stopped, and to make fun of another is of the flesh period. For everyone has free choice, and why are you offended, either you did or you did not, Brother I do not even Judge myself it is God only that Judges me, and this truth is for you as well. If you did not do wrong than you did not this is only between God and you and the person that is offended if you offended you choose, you look back over your own posts in agreement with others that came from flesh and condemned.
Thanks

 

[wdeaton65]

Only you know whether you have or not I have not said you have I am not your Judge, you know this why try to take me in a flesh fight you said and then he said, my flesh sword is dead, I am not judging you nor condeming you. Flesh fights that were going on have thankfully stopped, and to make fun of another is of the flesh period. For everyone has free choice, and why are you offended, either you did or you did not, Brother I do not even Judge myself it is God only that Judges me, and this truth is for you as well. If you did not do wrong than you did not this is only between God and you and the person that is offended if you offended you choose, you look back over your own posts in agreement with others that came from flesh and condemned.
Thanks

Thats funny guy, I am laughing as I punch the keys. This thread is started by a guy who denys the truth. If your ok with some one teaching sex with animals in the garden and Yeshua is not GOD. That you have the right to do. I am not offened by what you may or may not think of me. Peace to you.

 

[zone]

Part one of your question; Domenic....first you have to recant this blasphemy about bestiality in Eden.

It is not blasphemy, nor in good faith to our God will I recant it.
If you want to start on the same page, Lets you and I as Christians, start with Genesis 3:15, and examine that scripture.

no, we're done.

 

[zone]

beguiled is an od Engish word...it also means sexual intercourse. 3:15, God speaks about Satans seed?

been watching ARNOLD MURRAY AND SHEPHERD'S CHAPEL ON TV instead of going to church?

that's what you get for it.
brainwashed by Christian Identity weirdos.

 

[zone]

I agree with the analogy of what is, and disagree with the theology, Zone does God love this person? Did God go to the death for Domenic or just those that line up with truth and truth only, Does God love you? Now in response to God loving you, how can one not love the other whether they agree or not. And how can you claimyou love God if you only love those that love you. This has nothing to do with enabling. Well maybe it does Remember God's warninig in Romans 9 about grafting out. I am just concerned for everyone's soul, and not interested in flesh swords only Spiritual double edged ones. I have said that I do not believe the sex thing and shown verses for it,now whether or not Domenic replies to it is up to hom and has not so far. But I am not and nor is anyone else in a position to play God.
Do as you will though I have said my peace and appreciate your response in being honest thank you

home....does the guy need to repent?
yes, or no?

 

[Domenic]

been watching ARNOLD MURRAY AND SHEPHERD'S CHAPEL ON TV instead of going to church?

that's what you get for it.
brainwashed by Christian Identity weirdos.

I don't go to any church, nor do i watch church stuff on TV

 

[zone]

No I do not speculate and spin myself into and out of control.
1 Corinthians 13:4Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud.
1 Corinthians 13:13And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love.

Now you mentioned would Jesus have put up with this: who did Jesus hang out with? Who needs the doctor?
Have you thought it out and are you listeniong to your own flesh or the Spirit of God, I love you Sister the same as anyone else

home, please minister to the man who needs salvation.
please make up your mind which it is.
be very careful about mixing the things of Christ with the things of Ba'al.

this is your choice.

 

[zone]

I adhere to God and God alone and what is LOVE 1cor13 and how long does love go on for oh yes God is love and God goes on forever so you choose sides and be just like the hypocrites without love for all only those you reckon worthy. If this were the case with God then he would not have gone to the death for the whole world.
Sorry but flesh is still in the way

home, please understand in what way God so loved the world.
He gave His Only Son.

now if we know what that really means, we ought to be very careful about making certain you know who is in what condition, and what is required of you as a minister of the Gospel, which has the power unto salvation.

the Love of God is for the salvation of the soul.

do you know what you are doing?

 

[Domenic]

home, please minister to the man who needs salvation.
please make up your mind which it is.
be very careful about mixing the things of Christ with the things of Ba'al.

this is your choice.

I'm begining to understand why Jesus had twelve men with him, rather than twelve women. No insult intended.

 

[zone]

Sorry Jesus was a life-giving Spirit not pure Human Seed for no flesh in God's sight will ever please God and all sin has throguh the cross been condemned to the flesh dead. Now we are all born dead where as Jesus was born life, perfect flesh from a virgin had never been touched hymen not broken
We today the beleivers in Christ that know he took away the sin of the world have passed from death to life in the Spirit of God and are alive here and now forever more,
John 4:23Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in the Spirit and in truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks.
John 4:24God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in the Spirit and in truth.”

Jesus was not only God He was 100% human being.
i hope that is what you saying home.