Who do you think Killed Jesus?

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1. Charm or enchant (someone), sometimes in a deceptive way: "every prominent American artist has been beguiled by Maine"; "a beguiling smile".
2. Trick (someone) into doing something.

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tr.v. be·guiled, be·guil·ing, be·guiles 1. To deceive by guile; delude. See Synonyms at deceive.
2. To take away from by or as if by guile; cheat: a disease that has beguiled me of strength.
3. To distract the attention of; divert: "to beguile you from the grief of a loss so overwhelming" (Abraham Lincoln).
4. To pass (time) pleasantly.
5. To amuse or charm; delight. See Synonyms at charm.
1. Treacherous cunning; skillful deceit.
2. Obsolete A trick or stratagem.
tr.v. guiled, guil·ing, guiles Archaic To beguile; deceive.

[HR][/HR][Middle English, from Old French, of Germanic origin; akin to Old English wigle, divination, sorcery.]

No sex tricked decieved, into eating from the tree of evil, that masquersades as good, they were both tricked into eating from this tree. God said that if they did they would die, nothing said about sex
This is another deception from the evil one to thwart, decieve beguile and is only conjecture subverting truth

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No sex tricked decieved, into eating from the tree of evil, that masquersades as good, they were both tricked into eating from this tree. God said that if they did they would die, nothing said about sex

This is another deception from the evil one to thwart, decieve beguile and is only conjecture subverting truth


and.....what are you doing about it home - learning as you go?
calling it good and mixing it with Christ?
you have given comfort to this.

the man has said adam and eve had sex WITH THE ANIMALS as well.

please get a grip on this, home.

do you know evil spirits speaking blasphemies or don't you?

do you know what it means to say God is LOVE?

do you know about Christ's bitter sufferings?

was it for the overlooking of something such as this, unrepented of?

 

[stek]

home....does the guy need to repent?
yes, or no?

He does have what most Christians would view as a mis-guided view of the Scriptures; however he does not go to church or watch church stuff on TV so I wonder where he gets his ideas from.

If the fruit on the Tree of Knowledge = sex with animals/satan What was the fruit on the Tree of Life? Did not Adam par take of this fruit before Eve. I can only speculate where this could lead.

Repent?? I would say yes,

 

[zone]

He does have what most Christians would view as a mis-guided view of the Scriptures; however he does not go to church or watch church stuff on TV so I wonder where he gets his ideas from.

If the fruit on the Tree of Knowledge = sex with animals/satan What was the fruit on the Tree of Life? Did not Adam par take of this fruit before Eve. I can only speculate where this could lead.

Repent?? I would say yes,

may i ask how you know this?

 

[Domenic]

Did God say to reason out the Scriptures? or did he say, "Don't reason out the Scriptures...take them for just what they say."
He said reason them out. Why did he say that?

I don't think you like the idea, you might be wrong?

 

[stek]

the man has said adam and eve had sex WITH THE ANIMALS as well.

I understand him to be implying that sex with animals/Satan (as he said Cain and Abel are Satan's childern) is the Fruit on the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil.

 

[stek]

may i ask how you know this?

Self confessed post # 256

 

[teuful_hunden]

I understand him to be implying that sex with animals/Satan (as he said Cain and Abel are Satan's childern) is the Fruit on the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil.

That's strange because Abel was considered appropriate before God

 

[zone]

Self confessed post # 256

okay thank you very much

 

[zone]

I don't go to any church, nor do i watch church stuff on TV

you didn't come up with this on your own.
no one does.

be truthful if you are able, if not, that's fine also.
you're in a lot of trouble.

you need to start over.

 

[zone]

I'm begining to understand why Jesus had twelve men with him, rather than twelve women. No insult intended.

you actually mean He had twelve man-animal chimeras, right?
or was judas 100% serpent?

"Animals always aged and died, they are not souls, nor refered to as souls. Man was not designed to die. When the human family got infected with animal seed, they also died. The only two never infected with animal seed were Adam and Eve…they died at a judgment from God. Note, at that judgment, God is clear…no symbolic talking here either."

http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/61043-domenic-what-i-believe-about-tree-garden.html < click

repent of this.

keeping this in mind:

Re: Who do you think Killed Jesus?

 

[stek]

That's strange because Abel was considered appropriate before God

AMEN brother!!! Thats why we read the WHOLE chapter and not just one verse.

 

[stek]

you didn't come up with this on your own.
no one does.

be truthful if you are able, if not, that's fine also.
you're in a lot of trouble.

you need to start over.

Domenic: This is what I believe about the tree in the garden.

What I believe took place in the Garden. God knew people would rewrite some of his scriptures. What he did, was hide some of the truth. He knew those seeking would find the truth, and reason it out.

I know a truth. It is not the amount of Bible knowledge one has, but heart condition.

Here is how I believe events in the Garden took place.

One tree in the Garden, the tree of the knowledge of good and bad. Genesis 2:17...was this a real tree, or a symbolic tree?
Many believe some writing in the Bible is symbolic. For some reason, the tree of the knowledge of good and bad, is accepted as a literal tree who’s fruit, if ate, will give the eater knowledge of good, and bad? I have always believed it to be a symbolic tree.

This is my logic on it. Trees bear fruit. When Mary was pregnant with Jesus, her cousin Elizabeth said, “Bless it is the fruit of they womb.” Here an un-born Jesus is referred to as fruit. How are babies made? With a seed, fruit trees are also made with a seed,. Most living things start with a seed. There are many seeds in the Bible. When God was talking to the serpent in the Garden, Genesis 3:15, which what the complete Bible is about, God said, “I shall put enmity (hate) between your (the serpent) seed, and the women (Jesus.) seed.” The serpent is identified for the first time in the Bible in Rev 12:7-10 as Satan…so we know the serpent in the Garden was Satan, who was an angel. Angels can not reproduce, so why would God talk about Satan having a seed? True, many times God , like his son Jesus, give illustrations in the symbolic mode. In this case, God is condemning Satan to a future death. This is not an illustration, here God is condemning one of his creatures. In all the other condemning God has done, he does not use the symbolic mode…He is clear as a bell as to what he is saying, God is going to have his son Kill Satan in the future, for something Satan has done with a seed? I thought on this for many years. One night I was talking to God. (no God does not talk back to me.) I asked him, “I know you have a lot of secret stuff, and I’m not asking you tell me any of the things you like to keep secret, but, this thing in the Garden, if it’s not secret, can you tell me what the heck is going on?”


The very next day I understood. I wrote it down…it all seemed to make sense. But I didn’t trust what I believed, after all, people seeking an answer to something, always come up with one, real or not…and I’m people too, so I figured my mind just made up an answer to just shut me up. I tried to forget the answer my mind gave me. For months It keep creeping back into my thinking…Satan had a seed, Satan had a seed. The trees in the garden? There were the human tree, the animal tree, and the flying creatures of the air tree.

Adam and Eve could take of the human seed, not the animal, or flying creature of the air seed. It made no sense? Even it they took of the animal seed, (sex) Eve could not get pregnant?

When God Commands somebody to do something,, he makes sure they do it whether they want to or not. After Adam was created, God told the angels to serve man. Angeles are powerful, and super intelligent. They have been around for maybe billions of years, and they are in the presents of God…that’s a high position. Being asked to serve man, who in an angels eye must look like a weak creature, with the brain of a jellyfish. Serving man may have seemed like a big demotion. I guess it would be like God asking humans to become servants to worms. Anyway, and for whatever reason, many revolted against this. Like I stated earlier, if one of Gods creatures refuses to do what God has commanded, God forces them to do it anyway. In the case of this revolt, God cast these angels down to earth in a form they had to stay. Since the angels felt they were better than man, he put them in the garden a step lower than man. An angelic, man like animal. We could call them the highest form of animal…with seed that could mix with human. These angels would be of the animal tree. ​

 

[homwardbound]

Thats funny guy, I am laughing as I punch the keys. This thread is started by a guy who denys the truth. If your ok with some one teaching sex with animals in the garden and Yeshua is not GOD. That you have the right to do. I am not offened by what you may or may not think of me. Peace to you.

Peace back to you as well and I never said that I agree with the sex thing as a matter of fact IUsauid I don't and posted that on this thread.
Thanks

 

[homwardbound]

home....does the guy need to repent?
yes, or no?

Yes in my opinion,Domenic has not yet answered my ?s and dances around them, and I am noit sure of the purpose except to arouse ones flesh to take control. This is just what I am seeing as of yet. Domenic has not shown me he is of God and yet Go9d is the only judge I just know tobe harmless as a dove and wise as a serpent as what I see Domenic doing and I have posted these things to him, regardless I still love the person as God does too.
Ican't help but love for God loved me first, and I can't help but toforgive because God has forgiven me 100%.
Now this does not make me have to accept anyone elses belief, nor does it make me be unloving if someone else decides to think differant as Domenic has said he does

 

[homwardbound]

home, please minister to the man who needs salvation.
please make up your mind which it is.
be very careful about mixing the things of Christ with the things of Ba'al.

this is your choice.

God ahs been ministering truth the truth of the cross where God ahs done all the work for us each individually if only we will just settle it there and come tolife here and now by the resurrection of Christ
For everyone will have had thier choice knowingly either they beleive God at the cross where it all is finished and redemption in place in order to bring in new life by the resurrection or not. But bottom line noone no not one will have an excuse for God is the only righteous one that the believers are only partakers and sharing this truth through out whereever they go

 

[homwardbound]

home, please understand in what way God so loved the world.
He gave His Only Son.

now if we know what that really means, we ought to be very careful about making certain you know who is in what condition, and what is required of you as a minister of the Gospel, which has the power unto salvation.

the Love of God is for the salvation of the soul.

do you know what you are doing?

No never claim to. I have no righteousness never have and never will before I was saved and or after no way no how!!!!!!!!!!!
I do have righteousness though, and it is not mine it is God's redeeming power in and through the cross the power is in the resurrection that God shares with his beleivers that have quit trying to get better and better by the works of thier own flesh and have settled the fact that all the whoe world is forgiven
John 1:29The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.
Luke 24:44And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me.

He did it he accomplished what he came to do and at the cross yelled out
John 19:30When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost.
Then after this he rose from the grave to give life to the believers here and now a life of God's type of love. while we all were yet sinners Christ died for us and then rose to give new life in us here and nowby renewing our mindful thoughts to God's perspective
Love you and any one can believe as they want to believe but none of us ahve to live like refugees over any others view. My hope is Domenic is saved and will be if not even as it appears to be not truly only God knoweth and it is God that gives the increase anjd the devil that taketh away by getting the believers to walk by flesh and get angry, pissed off and make fun. This is how the devil works and can only work through flesh, because all sin has been condemned to flesh
Through God one escapes the evils of this world and only through trusting God to deliver you there by Faith in God at the cross

 

[homwardbound]

Jesus was not only God He was 100% human being.
i hope that is what you saying home.

1 Corinthians 15:45And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.
Romans 8:6
For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
He was not born from earth after Adam he was born from above although in Human form born of the Virgin by the Holy Ghost he was here to redeem us all and to do this he had to be perfect and he was and is.
Ephesians 1:7In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace;

 

[homwardbound]

No sex tricked decieved, into eating from the tree of evil, that masquersades as good, they were both tricked into eating from this tree. God said that if they did they would die, nothing said about sex

This is another deception from the evil one to thwart, decieve beguile and is only conjecture subverting truth


and.....what are you doing about it home - learning as you go?
calling it good and mixing it with Christ?
you have given comfort to this.

the man has said adam and eve had sex WITH THE ANIMALS as well.

please get a grip on this, home.

do you know evil spirits speaking blasphemies or don't you?

do you know what it means to say God is LOVE?

do you know about Christ's bitter sufferings?

was it for the overlooking of something such as this, unrepented of?

Why are you asking me these things I know and choose not to walk in flesh over it period.

 

[stek]

Why are you asking me these things I know and choose not to walk in flesh over it period.

Home it is great that you know choose to walk in faith. But what about young Christians who aren't as mature or wise as you, do you not fear they may beleive the fall of man was because of an orgy with animals? I know, I am a new member here the things I have heard and the scriptures distorted freighten me.

I am gasping a much better picture why people think Christians are nuts. Aliens beings are gods, a mother at creation, salvation for angels, sex with animals, legalism movement, etc etc etc. While you may be Strong in your faith I think we have a obligation to correct false doctrines/theories

[h=3]Galatians 6:1[/h]
6 Brethren, if any person is overtaken in misconduct or sin of any sort, you who are spiritual [who are responsive to and controlled by the Spirit] should set him right and restore and reinstate him, without any sense of superiority and with all gentleness, keeping an attentive eye on yourself, lest you should be tempted also.

 

[homwardbound]

Home it is great that you know choose to walk in faith. But what about young Christians who aren't as mature or wise as you, do you not fear they may beleive the fall of man was because of an orgy with animals? I know, I am a new member here the things I have heard and the scriptures distorted freighten me.

I am gasping a much better picture why people think Christians are nuts. Aliens beings are gods, a mother at creation, salvation for angels, sex with animals, legalism movement, etc etc etc. While you may be Strong in your faith I think we have a obligation to correct false doctrines/theories

Galatians 6:1


6 Brethren, if any person is overtaken in misconduct or sin of any sort, you who are spiritual [who are responsive to and controlled by the Spirit] should set him right and restore and reinstate him, without any sense of superiority and with all gentleness, keeping an attentive eye on yourself, lest you should be tempted also.

And as the last part states
keeping an attentive eye on yourself, lest you should be tempted also.

This is exactly what the enemy wants is for us to forget this and get pissed over all these mis understandings and causing doubt anyway that the evil forces can that they will do to get you pissed off and act back out of one's flesh. The enemy is very tricky in dividing and conguering, turning one another against one another

And that is the reason for so many differant denominations and non denominations, now Paul warned about this
lets read it and then modernize it to the present time
1 Corinthians 1:12Now this I say, that every one of you saith, I am of Paul; and I of Apollos; and I of Cephas; and I of Christ.
And today we say I am of Catholic, Presbrytarian, Baptist, and so on and so forth all preach the name of Christ all are building off the foundation Christ and him crucified, but tell me who is building off the life the resurrection where the power is.

1 Corinthians 3:4For while one saith, I am of Paul; and another, I am of Apollos; are ye not carnal?

So allIam saying is let us each watch out not to be carnal like this world is that we are called out of and worship at the true tabernacle the one God pitched not man Hebrews 8:2
[SUP]2 [/SUP]A minister of the sanctuary, and of the true tabernacle, which the Lord pitched, and not man.