Who has the right to give moral discipline

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Well firstly a quick 5 min video 😊


Next whilst where on the topic, can you share what service you have took of a person that people would consider that person not to be of the lord. Say like a service you need like food or something else like a job doing.

Does it go as far as you need to choose a Christian to do a job for you

Halal meat would be my choice but most people don't know when they buy a chicken it's been blessed into halal meat and most chicken farms do it.

Have you ever had service of a migrant worker too



The above video caused many Europeans to get all angry because they didn't like the truth about 3000 years of slavery whilst giving moral lessons themselves

I liked the speech, it was broadcast in the last world cup, when the Europeans where ranting about the moral duties Arabs have, but they don't like.

Like the Arabs in Saudi said all gay people have a mental illness. Then the FIFA president above came on to defend them after outrage around the world.

Then all the people went nuts in the UK.

Claiming Saudi should not be allowed to host the world cup.

Then of course they all carried on to watch the world cup.

Would say that is hypocrisy at its finest or Zionism at its finest
 

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Your question only addresses half the issue.

The rest of the question is, “Who has the responsibility to apply moral discipline?”
 

Eli1

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@Thunderrr-mental i know you mean well brother but i find a lot of your topics confusing.
First because you need to do a little better in spelling and secondly you could phrase your ideas better so we can engage in a discussion where we can learn something new and enjoy the convo in the process.

In this topic you're mixing FIFA which is a complex topic in itself and you're presenting it to an audience which is not very familiar with FIFA.
Then you're asking moral questions using a FIFA talking head politician. Also the moral argument is the last argument you want to bring into a discussion with say ... an atheist.

But i'm saying all these commends to you as a friend and as a brother-in-Christ so don't take them the wrong way.
I would like to participate on a few of your topics but i just find your style very confusing.
 
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@Thunderrr-mental i know you mean well brother but i find a lot of your topics confusing.
First because you need to do a little better in spelling and secondly you could phrase your ideas better so we can engage in a discussion where we can learn something new and enjoy the convo in the process.

In this topic you're mixing FIFA which is a complex topic in itself and you're presenting it to an audience which is not very familiar with FIFA.
Then you're asking moral questions using a FIFA talking head politician. Also the moral argument is the last argument you want to bring into a discussion with say ... an atheist.

But i'm saying all these commends to you as a friend and as a brother-in-Christ so don't take them the wrong way.
I would like to participate on a few of your topics but i just find your style very confusing.
Well firstly I only learnt to write English at 15.

Secondly my first language is Welsh.


Thirdly the conversation is about morals not FIFA.

Lastly I'm waiting for people to express what they think about letting other people do work for them, and what they think about the other related morals I asked.

On that note I will wait to see if you wish to take part.
 

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Parents have the right to give moral discipline to their children, otherwise nobody else.
 

Eli1

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Well firstly I only learnt to write English at 15.

Secondly my first language is Welsh.


Thirdly the conversation is about morals not FIFA.

Lastly I'm waiting for people to express what they think about letting other people do work for them, and what they think about the other related morals I asked.

On that note I will wait to see if you wish to take part.
You know, English is not my first language either, but in order to communicate i did my best in trying to learn it so i can be understood by the other party.
I can see that this is difficult for you and the part in bold is even more confusing in trying to understand what you're saying.
Anyway, all the best to you and God bless you.
 
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Well I believe the Arabs banning the consumption of alcohol in public places shows a high level of responsibility.
 

Dino246

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Halal meat would be my choice but most people don't know when they buy a chicken it's been blessed into halal meat and most chicken farms do it.
Why would you, who claim to be a Christian, knowingly choose 'halal' meat that has been dedicated to a false god by a Moslem imam?
 
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Why would you, who claim to be a Christian, knowingly choose 'halal' meat that has been dedicated to a false god by a Moslem imam?
well a better question would be, why do i like indian takeaways
 
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Who has the right to give moral discipline?

The morality of this world is based on the political correctness of political groups and capital groups.

The Lori Island incident revealed how morally corrupt these people who control the highest moral point are.
 
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Why would you, who claim to be a Christian, knowingly choose 'halal' meat that has been dedicated to a false god by a Moslem imam?
. Well I don't know how the USA chicken farms operate.

But having delivered thousands of tons of chicken fillets to Asian food markets from English chicken slaughter houses.

I know that the Asian market which is huge in the UK, will not buy any chickens unless the throats have been cut correctly, and all the blood drained out, from the chicken, and that process must be done preferably by an Asian who also blesses each chicken as he cuts there throats.

Having done deliveries for over 5 of the main chicken slaughter houses, not one of them didn't have all the chickens blessed halal style, they all did.

Then of course when you go to an Indian takeaway they don't tell you there serving you halal meat 😊
 
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Who has the right to give moral discipline?

The morality of this world is based on the political correctness of political groups and capital groups.

The Lori Island incident revealed how morally corrupt these people who control the highest moral point are.
This is a good point.

But also apparently the UK laws was initially set up on the morals of the bible.

But yet the responsibility of being a Christian nation doesn't seem a moral obligation

Then of corse every Christian votes for them
 
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This is a good point.

But also apparently the UK laws was initially set up on the morals of the bible.

But yet the responsibility of being a Christian nation doesn't seem a moral obligation

Then of corse every Christian votes for them
Being a Christian no longer belongs to this world.We only have one king in common,We only live for God and Jesus Christ.We don't need to worry about who the vote is given to.Because no matter who you give it to, the result is the same.

1 cor 1:20
Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?
 
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Being a Christian no longer belongs to this world.We only have one king in common,We only live for God and Jesus Christ.We don't need to worry about who the vote is given to.Because no matter who you give it to, the result is the same.

1 cor 1:20
Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?
lol I posted 1 cor 20 in the wrong thread. Great verse bro it was ment for this thread 😅
 

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Why would you, who claim to be a Christian, knowingly choose 'halal' meat that has been dedicated to a false god by a Moslem imam?
Allah is not real, just a make-believe fiction. All food, meat or vegies are sanctified by the word of God and prayer. The only time to consider not eating meat is when a new believer, who doesn't understand that there is no Allah, might see a brother eat such meat and be emboldened to also eat; and thereby offend in his own conscience, condemning himself, which leads him to stumble by drawing away from the Lord in his own mind.

The difference between stumbling and falling away from the Lord is that when we stumble, we get back up in repentance.
"Whatever is not of faith, is sin."
"Happy is the man that condemns not himself in the thing that he allows."
 

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Well I believe the Arabs banning the consumption of alcohol in public places shows a high level of responsibility.
And terrorizing innocent citizens shows a high level of moral depravity. Muslims and Arabs have declared war on the West, on Christians, and on Jews. Either vocally or silently by saying nothing about Muslim Jihad. In fact the Koran approves of that. And Muslim migrant invasion is another aspect of Jihad.
 

Dino246

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Allah is not real, just a make-believe fiction. All food, meat or vegies are sanctified by the word of God and prayer. The only time to consider not eating meat is when a new believer, who doesn't understand that there is no Allah, might see a brother eat such meat and be emboldened to also eat; and thereby offend in his own conscience, condemning himself, which leads him to stumble by drawing away from the Lord in his own mind.

The difference between stumbling and falling away from the Lord is that when we stumble, we get back up in repentance.
"Whatever is not of faith, is sin."
"Happy is the man that condemns not himself in the thing that he allows."
I know these things. I am simply wondering why a Christian would prefer meat dedicated to an idol.