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evyaniy

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evyaniy said:
Those are not exclamation points. It is an i in a blue circle which means informative according to the legend. Your posts are informative and the Scriptures are as well.

Responding with an i for informative does not mean complete agreement or complete disagreement. It means the post is informative and worth consideration.
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Many times posters will make long posts with many points which cannot all be agreed to but some can. Informative seems to fit those posts if some information provided is valuable. The Scriptures you provided for consideration are certainly worth considering. It will be interesting to see how others respond and also to read your additional comments.
 
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tylerbones1313 said:
God is invisible and has no physical body except through Christ.

Scriptures that prove that God doesn't have a physical body except through Christ:

John 4:24: "God is Spirit, and those who worship him must worship in spirit and truth."
2 Corinthians 3:17: "Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom."
Colossians 1:15: "He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation."
Hebrews 1:3: "The Son is the radiance of God's glory and the exact representation of his being, sustaining all things by his powerful word. After he had provided purification for sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty in heaven."
1 John 5:7: "For there are three that testify in heaven: the Father, the Word and the Holy Spirit, and these three are one."
These scriptures show that God is a spiritual being, not a physical being. He does not have a physical body, except through Christ. Jesus Christ is the Son of God, and He is the only way that we can see the Father.

Here is a more detailed explanation of each scripture:

John 4:24: This verse tells us that God is Spirit. This means that He is not a physical being. He does not have a body of flesh and bones. He is a spiritual being, which means that He exists in a different realm than we do.
2 Corinthians 3:17: This verse tells us that the Lord is the Spirit. This is another way of saying that God is Spirit. He is the source of all spiritual life. He is the one who gives us the Holy Spirit, who is the Spirit of Christ.
Colossians 1:15: This verse tells us that Jesus Christ is the image of the invisible God. This means that He is the only way that we can see the Father. Jesus is the perfect representation of God. He is the one who shows us what God is like.
Hebrews 1:3: This verse tells us that Jesus Christ is the radiance of God's glory and the exact representation of his being. This means that He is the one who reveals God to us. He is the one who shows us what God is like.
1 John 5:7: This verse tells us that there are three that testify in heaven: the Father, the Word and the Holy Spirit, and these three are one. This verse is a reference to the Trinity. The Trinity is the teaching that there is one God in three persons: the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit.
These scriptures show us that God is a spiritual being, not a physical being. He does not have a physical body, except through Christ. Jesus Christ is the Son of God, and He is the only way that we can see the Father.


The holy spirit is the breath of God it is what you feel when you pray it is what you feel when you read the Word. That's what you feel when your personal prayer language. And the Holy Spirit doesn't have a body except through Christ and his followers.

Here are some scriptures that prove that the Holy Spirit doesn't have a physical body except through Christ and his followers:

John 4:24: "God is spirit, and those who worship him must worship in spirit and in truth."
Luke 24:39: "See my hands and my feet, that it is I myself. Touch me and see, for a spirit does not have flesh and bones as you see I have."
1 Corinthians 15:50: "I declare to you, brothers and sisters, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable."
2 Corinthians 3:17: "Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom."
Ephesians 2:22: "And in him you too are being built together into a dwelling place for the Spirit."
These scriptures show that the Holy Spirit is a spirit being, without a physical body. He can manifest Himself in different ways, such as through the appearance of a dove or a tongue of fire, but He does not have a permanent physical form.

The only way that the Holy Spirit can have a physical body is through Christ and his followers. When we are baptized and receive the Holy Ghost, He comes to dwell within us. Our bodies then become temples of the Holy Spirit (1 Corinthians 6:19).

So the only way to physically see the fullness of the Godhead is in the One Person of Jesus Christ.
Col 2:9
For in him (Jesus) dwelleth all the fullness of the Godhead bodily.
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By baptism... Are you meaning by immersion in water?
 
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tylerbones1313 said:
I don't know all these reaction symbols yet.
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If you hover over the thumbs up icon at the bottom of a post it brings up a list of other symbols you could use. If you hover over one of those it tells you the meaning. Then you can click the one you want. Did not mean any offense in saying your posts were informative.
 
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evyaniy

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Cameron143 said:
The white X with the red background means you are loved.
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had to give that one a "funny" reaction. Although it may not have been helpful or accurate it was a rather funny response. No offense meant to anyone by the funny reaction either. Funny can sometimes be funny.
 
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evyaniy

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used to get alot more of those red x's before the main red x'er stopped. that won't be missed much.
 
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evyaniy said:
used to get alot more of those red x's before the main red x'er stopped. that won't be missed much.
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Just view it as a reminder of the cross. The white cross is a little slanted but it is white for the pure One on it. The red background reminds us we are washed in His blood. So the cross being slanted can represent God condescending to us.
 
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evyaniy

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Cameron143 said:
Just view it as a reminder of the cross. The white cross is a little slanted but it is white for the pure One on it. The red background reminds us we are washed in His blood. So the cross being slanted can represent God condescending to us.
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yea. when someone can't help passing them out like candy on halloween it is usually a clue to ignore that poster and their posts.
 
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evyaniy

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For what it is worth concerning the subject of the thread. YHVH means Eternal Word or Eternal Command which has been discussed before. So the Holy Name points to the Son. Also the 4 letters translate to Behold the Hand, Behold the nail according to some posts and vids where people explained that.

And the Son's Name Yeshua or Yahshua means Eternal Salvation or YAH is Salvation or YAH's Salvation. YAH means Eternal and is the sound of Eternal which is sounding constantly throughout creation in the smallest particles to the vast cosmos. Not to bore anyone with something that has been said before. But it may have significance to the question of the thread.
 
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evyaniy

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geeee all that from a question about the blue exclamation point when not intending to say anything. don't get him started.

Now back to our regularly scheduled programming.
 
Cameron143

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evyaniy said:
yea. when someone can't help passing them out like candy on halloween it is usually a clue to ignore that poster and their posts.
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I don't use them, but I'm always intrigued why people believe as they do so I never ignore anyone. I do appreciate when the people who disagree with me at least share the reasons they disagree.
 
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tourist said:
That is a good question. For the most part I would venture to say yes although at times I am probably a fair-weather friend.
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Nevertheless, He has called you friend. We are all very poor friends by comparison.
 
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evyaniy

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Bob-Carabbio said:
That's Unitarian Modalism - "God ducking into a phone booth, and changing costumes".
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They are in Each Other though as the Scriptures he provided say. As many others have expressed over many threads, It is a Mystery to many of us. There is no denying there is Father, Son and Spirit and Their distinctness, yet there is also Their unity which we do not have complete comprehension of as many have stated. Those who attempt to explain it usually fall short of answering all the questions. We have the creeds which are also insufficient in providing complete understanding but do give us a framework to stay within.

There is no question that They have 3 distinct voices in the Psalms and talk to and about Each Other and rely on Each Other to perform Their unique roles with a unified purpose and agreement. They love Each Other and praise Each Other and work Together to accomplish the Divine will of bringing many children to glory to share in their Divine nature and enjoy Eternal Life together.
 
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tylerbones1313 said:
Please someone begin that discussion directly answering the questions and see where it goes!

God bless you all
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He is that heart piercing heart blleding love and affection you feel as if an actual white hot blade periced it and you just blees and oour anf gush love and intimate affection for him your heart melts for him just by hearing his name, he is that warmth you always feel the need fot whatever you lack or are going through m=emotionally physically spiritually no matter whatm you be goin through even sexual abuse he is that wamrpth that holds and infuses all to you his warmth his deep love affection and how his heart is tickled byu your everyw ord of prasie or affection to him


He is that glowing fog on God's presence essence and hearrt every pain every sadness everything you have been through he not only heals and mends but rveal why it was needed.

There is a realm and personal level if him resdied for those who are truly after his own heart, the mere human capacity yo even begin to know or understand him by 000000000000001 percent is absolutely insane.


Yet for those who choose his heart who who desire to know and have him beyond human limits and understandiung they are the ones who truly love and adore him for their hunger refuses to let their treasure escape their grasp and they Are unware of the reward granted to such a soul for the Lord tresures a hungry heart far above all others do you know him? why then are you not absolutely bwildered fascianted and unrelentlessly starving to know and have him why then do you hold yoursdelf to limits due to your doctrines and beliefs is this about your understandinf of truth or his?
 
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We, then, following the holy fathers, all with one consent teach men to confess one and the same Son, our Lord Jesus Christ, the same perfect in Godhead and also perfect in manhood; truly God and truly man, of a rational soul and body; coessential with the Father according to the Godhead, and consubstantial with us according to the manhood; in all things like unto us, without sin; begotten before all ages of the Father according to the Godhead, and in these latter days, for us and for our salvation, born of the Virgin Mary, the mother of God, according to the manhood; one and the same Christ, Son, Lord, Only-begotten, to be acknowledged in two natures, without confusion, without change, without division, without separation; the distinction of natures being by no means taken away by the union, but rather the property of each nature being preserved, and concurring in one person and one subsistence, not parted or divided into two persons, but one and the same Son, and only begotten, God the Word, the Lord Jesus Christ; as the prophets from the beginning have declared concerning Him, and the Lord Jesus Christ Himself has taught us, and the creed of the holy fathers has handed down to us. -- Chalcedon Creed.
 
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evyaniy said:
had to give that one a "funny" reaction. Although it may not have been helpful or accurate it was a rather funny response. No offense meant to anyone by the funny reaction either. Funny can sometimes be funny.
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It's ok I thought I was being reported for bad content.
 
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