Why as a believer I do not celebrate Christmas or Easter With the Rest of the World

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Before you react too quickly, please take the time to read this comparison between the Biblical teachings about Jesus Christ and the mythical teachings of Santa Claus. Many, many Christian pastors have lamented the fact that Santa Claus has replaced Jesus Christ in the hearts and minds of too many children and adults in America today. When you read this comparison, you will understand that this replacement in the hearts and minds of Americans is not by accident. You will be able to see Satan, the Master Marionette, pulling the strings above the world, leading adults and children alike away from Jesus Christ and toward Santa Claus, who is the epitome' of the love of the world and everything that is in it.

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COMPARISON BETWEEN
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[TH="align: center"]JESUS CHRIST: OUR LORD AND SAVIOR ACCORDING TO THE BIBLE[/TH]
[TH="align: center"]SANTA CLAUS: THE COUNTERFEIT ACCORDING TO MYTH OF MEN[/TH]
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[TD]1. Has white hair like wool (Rev 1:14)[/TD]
[TD]1. Has white hair like wool[/TD]
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[TD]2. Has a beard (Isaiah 50:6)[/TD]
[TD]2. Has a beard[/TD]
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[TD]3. Comes in red apparel Isaiah (63:1-2)[/TD]
[TD]3. Comes in red apparel[/TD]
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[TD]4. Hour of His coming is a mystery(Luke 12:40; Mark 13:33)[/TD]
[TD]4. Hour of his coming is a mystery[/TD]
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[TD]5. Comes from the North where He lives (Ezekiel 1:4; Psalm 48:2)[/TD]
[TD]5. Comes from the North where he lives: North Pole[/TD]
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[TD]6. Is a carpenter (Mark 6:3)[/TD]
[TD]6. Is a toy carpenter[/TD]
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[TD]7. Comes as a thief in the night(Matthew 24:43-44)[/TD]
[TD]7. Comes as a thief in the night. Even gains entrance to homes as a thief.[/TD]
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[TD]8. Omnipotent -- all powerful (Rev 19:6)[/TD]
[TD]8. Omnipotent -- can deliver all the toys of the world in one night[/TD]
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[TD]9. Omniscient -- knows all (Hebrews 4:13; 1 John 3:20)[/TD]
[TD]9. Omniscient -- knows if you have been good or bad, for the entire year[/TD]
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[TD]10. Omnipresent (Psalm 139:7-10; Ephesians 4:6; John 3:13)[/TD]
[TD]10. Omnipresent -- sees when you wake or sleep. Has to be everywhere at once to be able to deliver all the toys in one short night.[/TD]
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[TD]11. Ageless, eternal (Rev 1:8; 21:6)[/TD]
[TD]11. Lives forever[/TD]
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[TD]12. Lives in men (1 Cor 3:16; 2 Cor 6:16-17)[/TD]
[TD]12. Lives in the hearts of children[/TD]
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[TD]13. Giver of Gifts (Ephesians 4:8)[/TD]
[TD]13. Giver of Gifts[/TD]
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[TD]14. Absolute Truth (John 14:6)[/TD]
[TD]14. Absolute Fable - (1 Tim 1:4; 4:7;2 Tim 4:4)[/TD]
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[TD]15. Sits on a throne (Rev 5:1; Heb 1:8)[/TD]
[TD]15. Sits on a throne[/TD]
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[TD]16. We are told to boldly go to the throne of Grace for our needs (Heb 4:16)[/TD]
[TD]16. Children are bidden to approach his throne to ask for anything they want[/TD]
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[TD]17. Commands children to obey parents[/TD]
[TD]17. Tells children to obey parents[/TD]
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[TD]18. Wants little children to come to Him (Mark 10:14)[/TD]
[TD]18. Bids children to come unto him[/TD]
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[TD]19. Judges (Rom 14:10; Rev 20:2)[/TD]
[TD]19. Judges whether you were good or bad[/TD]
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[TD]20. Everlasting Father (Isa 9:6; Heb 12:2)[/TD]
[TD]20. Father Christmas[/TD]
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[TD]21. Christ Child (Matt 1:23; Luke 2:11-12)[/TD]
[TD]21. Kris Kringle (means christ child)[/TD]
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[TD]22. Worthy of Prayers and Worship (Rev 5:14 Hebrews 1:6)[/TD]
[TD]22. Prayers and worship to "St. Nick" by children[/TD]
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[TD]23. Lord of Hosts (Mal 3:5; Isa 8:13; Psalms 24:10)[/TD]
[TD]23. Lord over a host of elves - (In Druidic religion, elves are demons or tree spirits[/TD]
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[TD]24. God says, "Ho, ho ... (Zechariah 2:6)[/TD]
[TD]24. Santa says, "Ho, ho, ho ..."[/TD]
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[TD]25. Prince of Peace, the Image of God (Isa 9:6;Hebrews 1:3)[/TD]
[TD]25. Symbol of World Peace, the image of the Christmas Season[/TD]
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Note: This comparison taken from "The GOOD NEWSletter", by Former Catholics For Christ, Oct/Nov/Dec, 1997. Clearly, you can see that someone deliberately created a Secular counterfeit to Jesus Christ, matching the many attributes of Jesus Christ with Santa Claus! There are too many direct matches for this creation of Santa Claus to have been an accident. We are told in Job 1:6-7 that Satan walks up and down on the Earth, as if it were a small garden plot completely under his domination. Satan can be thought of as a Master Marionette, pulling the strings on Earth. Certainly, in these Last Days, Satan would have wanted someone else to draw the attention, admiration, and love of the children away from Jesus Christ. But, not only that, Satan would have wanted to infect children early with that most devastating of spiritual diseases, the love of material things, and the love of oneself that goes with trying to get as many presents as possible! The creation and promotion of Santa Claus certainly fulfills all these goals.Santa equals Satan.

Now, please allow me to introduce to you another translocation of the word, Satan.

Santa. As in Santa Claus.


 

Agricola

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#43
Maybe you should quit driving the highway and read what I posted..never once called the tree's of Jeremiah 10 a Christmas tree and maybe you should study all about the winter solstice, the (yule) log and decking the tree with MOONS and SUNS, as well as the death of the old year and the bringing in of the new with the "return" of the sun that was practiced in the ancient world.
SO what. thousands upon thousands of years of history of humans, with thousands of different cultures and religions, well guess what, you are bound to have some kind of pagan and occult ceremony happening on any day of the year.

The Romans had a week of celebrating in the festival known as Saturnalia, with gift giving and sacrifices, which took place 17- 23 December, are we celebrating this no. We are celebrating Christ's Birth. Nothing wrong with claiming back these days for glory of God and not satan. Had documentation to all these pagan festivals been destroyed and lost to history, then no one would be none the wiser, but as it is the enemies of Christianity want to return these days back to pre- Christian holidays in order to remove Christ from the period.
 
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I celebrate a whole week! Not just one day! And that's because I Know when my birthday is. We don't know when Christ was born...but there is NOTHING wrong with celebrating the birth of Christ...nothing wrong with it.
Again we see those who will read into a text something that is not there as I NEVER SAID THAT I DID NOT CELEBRATE THE BIRTH OF CHRIST. I said that I DO NOT PRACTICE THE MODERN DAY HOLIDAY OF CHRISTMAS!
 
May 9, 2012
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[TABLE]
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[TH="align: center"]JESUS CHRIST: OUR LORD AND SAVIOR ACCORDING TO THE BIBLE[/TH]
[TH="align: center"]SANTA CLAUS: THE COUNTERFEIT ACCORDING TO MYTH OF MEN[/TH]
[/TR]
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[TD]1. Has white hair like wool (Rev 1:14)[/TD]
[TD]1. Has white hair like wool[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]2. Has a beard (Isaiah 50:6)[/TD]
[TD]2. Has a beard[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]3. Comes in red apparel Isaiah (63:1-2)[/TD]
[TD]3. Comes in red apparel[/TD]
[/TR]
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[TD]4. Hour of His coming is a mystery(Luke 12:40; Mark 13:33)[/TD]
[TD]4. Hour of his coming is a mystery[/TD]
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[TD]5. Comes from the North where He lives (Ezekiel 1:4; Psalm 48:2)[/TD]
[TD]5. Comes from the North where he lives: North Pole[/TD]
[/TR]
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[TD]6. Is a carpenter (Mark 6:3)[/TD]
[TD]6. Is a toy carpenter[/TD]
[/TR]
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[TD]7. Comes as a thief in the night(Matthew 24:43-44)[/TD]
[TD]7. Comes as a thief in the night. Even gains entrance to homes as a thief.[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]8. Omnipotent -- all powerful (Rev 19:6)[/TD]
[TD]8. Omnipotent -- can deliver all the toys of the world in one night[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]9. Omniscient -- knows all (Hebrews 4:13; 1 John 3:20)[/TD]
[TD]9. Omniscient -- knows if you have been good or bad, for the entire year[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]10. Omnipresent (Psalm 139:7-10; Ephesians 4:6; John 3:13)[/TD]
[TD]10. Omnipresent -- sees when you wake or sleep. Has to be everywhere at once to be able to deliver all the toys in one short night.[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]11. Ageless, eternal (Rev 1:8; 21:6)[/TD]
[TD]11. Lives forever[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]12. Lives in men (1 Cor 3:16; 2 Cor 6:16-17)[/TD]
[TD]12. Lives in the hearts of children[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]13. Giver of Gifts (Ephesians 4:8)[/TD]
[TD]13. Giver of Gifts[/TD]
[/TR]
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[TD]14. Absolute Truth (John 14:6)[/TD]
[TD]14. Absolute Fable - (1 Tim 1:4; 4:7;2 Tim 4:4)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]15. Sits on a throne (Rev 5:1; Heb 1:8)[/TD]
[TD]15. Sits on a throne[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]16. We are told to boldly go to the throne of Grace for our needs (Heb 4:16)[/TD]
[TD]16. Children are bidden to approach his throne to ask for anything they want[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]17. Commands children to obey parents[/TD]
[TD]17. Tells children to obey parents[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]18. Wants little children to come to Him (Mark 10:14)[/TD]
[TD]18. Bids children to come unto him[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]19. Judges (Rom 14:10; Rev 20:2)[/TD]
[TD]19. Judges whether you were good or bad[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]20. Everlasting Father (Isa 9:6; Heb 12:2)[/TD]
[TD]20. Father Christmas[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]21. Christ Child (Matt 1:23; Luke 2:11-12)[/TD]
[TD]21. Kris Kringle (means christ child)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]22. Worthy of Prayers and Worship (Rev 5:14 Hebrews 1:6)[/TD]
[TD]22. Prayers and worship to "St. Nick" by children[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]23. Lord of Hosts (Mal 3:5; Isa 8:13; Psalms 24:10)[/TD]
[TD]23. Lord over a host of elves - (In Druidic religion, elves are demons or tree spirits[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]24. God says, "Ho, ho ... (Zechariah 2:6)[/TD]
[TD]24. Santa says, "Ho, ho, ho ..."[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]25. Prince of Peace, the Image of God (Isa 9:6;Hebrews 1:3)[/TD]
[TD]25. Symbol of World Peace, the image of the Christmas Season[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
Note: This comparison taken from "The GOOD NEWSletter", by Former Catholics For Christ, Oct/Nov/Dec, 1997. Clearly, you can see that someone deliberately created a Secular counterfeit to Jesus Christ, matching the many attributes of Jesus Christ with Santa Claus! There are too many direct matches for this creation of Santa Claus to have been an accident. We are told in Job 1:6-7 that Satan walks up and down on the Earth, as if it were a small garden plot completely under his domination. Satan can be thought of as a Master Marionette, pulling the strings on Earth. Certainly, in these Last Days, Satan would have wanted someone else to draw the attention, admiration, and love of the children away from Jesus Christ. But, not only that, Satan would have wanted to infect children early with that most devastating of spiritual diseases, the love of material things, and the love of oneself that goes with trying to get as many presents as possible! The creation and promotion of Santa Claus certainly fulfills all these goals.Santa equals Satan.

Now, please allow me to introduce to you another translocation of the word, Satan.

Santa. As in Santa Claus.


I've said it once. I'll say it again. "Satan" and "Santa" come from two totally different languages. they have NOTHING to do with each other.
 
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chubbena

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#47
Do ou celebrate your birthday on the wrong day by chance ?
Some think it's right to celebrate the savior's unknown birthday on His very enemy's birthday using His enemy's way of celebration.
 
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#48
I've said it once. I'll say it again. "Satan" and "Santa" come from two totally different languages. they have NOTHING to do with each other.

What is your thoughts on santa claus then do you see it as a problem he is in Christmas then ?
 
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chubbena

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#49
SO what. thousands upon thousands of years of history of humans, with thousands of different cultures and religions, well guess what, you are bound to have some kind of pagan and occult ceremony happening on any day of the year.

The Romans had a week of celebrating in the festival known as Saturnalia, with gift giving and sacrifices, which took place 17- 23 December, are we celebrating this no. We are celebrating Christ's Birth. Nothing wrong with claiming back these days for glory of God and not satan. Had documentation to all these pagan festivals been destroyed and lost to history, then no one would be none the wiser, but as it is the enemies of Christianity want to return these days back to pre- Christian holidays in order to remove Christ from the period.
Christmas was celebrated not much longer than 200 years in North America by "Christians". The Puritans outlawed this festival before that.
 
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Some think it's right to celebrate the savior's unknown birthday on His very enemy's birthday using His enemy's way of celebration.

What is ironic is the days that God say keep most men do not keep but keep days that God NEVER COMMANDED to keep

that is so sad
 
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What is your thoughts on santa claus then do you see it as a problem he is in Christmas then ?
I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH CELEBRATING THE MAN...SAINT NICK. HE IS THE REASON THAT THE SANTA CLAUSE TRADITION EXISTS IN THE FIRST PLACE. BRUSH UP ON YOUR HISTORY OF SAINTS AND YOU'LL FIND OUT WHY HE IS NICKNAMED SANTA CLAUSE.
 
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Ugly

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#52
Some think it's right to celebrate the savior's unknown birthday on His very enemy's birthday using His enemy's way of celebration.
Wait. What? Satan was never born, first of all. He was created outside of birth. Also, near as we can tell his creation took place Before the existence of time. And for arguments sake, even if he was created During the existence of time, he was created in a place outside the existence of time. And still yet, we would not know what relative time from on earth that would have been. So i have to say, labeling Christmas as celebrating the say of Satans birth is one of the more ridiculous arguments against a backdrop of already ridiculous arguments.
 
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#53
why not take Madi Gras and just dress it up with Jesus name and hey it Christian right hmmmm
 
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I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH CELEBRATING THE MAN...SAINT NICK. HE IS THE REASON THAT THE SANTA CLAUSE TRADITION EXISTS IN THE FIRST PLACE. BRUSH UP ON YOUR HISTORY OF SAINTS AND YOU'LL FIND OUT WHY HE IS NICKNAMED SANTA CLAUSE.

hmm where does the bible say celebrate a saint ?
So do you write letters and pray to this saint Nick a dead ,man ?

i dont see people celebrating Mandela as a saint but hey 10 years from now some bright person will come up with the idea to make a dead man a saint get the picture
 
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WHAT A TERRIBLE AWFUL THING TO SUBJECT OUR KIDS TO.

can you imagine? some kindergarten kids getting to know the story?[/QUOTE

Yeah it would be a shame for parents, churches and Sunday school teachers to follow and do exactly what Jesus did when he wanted to instruct people..Let me guess He put on a passion play, bought candy and dressed up the synagogue with candy canes and Baal ball trees while singing 27 verses of Silent Night...NOT He sat them down and opened his mouth and TAUGHT the people dia logos and you knowing the Greek should have no problem recognizing what I just said. Faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by fun and games, programs and give the dog a bone ministries? HAH Not hardly..faith comes by the preaching of the Word. :)
 
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#56
So, according to you then, Christ did not come in the flesh, nor did He live a sinless life upon earth to be the Lamb of God, nor was he crucified, descending into Hades, and having made atonement for the sin of the world was raised (out) from the dead, ascended into Heaven sitting down at the right hand of God fulfilling His high priestly ministry (after the Order of Melchizedek), waiting until His enemies are put under His feet and all according to the Scriptures!

That's a novel take on things! :p
Look maybe I don't speak the kings English, but I never said nor implied that Jesus never was never born. Maybe you should take the time jolly old fellow to read what was said in the post and quit applying things that I never said nor implied. WOW I think half the people in here read the headline and jump to their own conclusions without facts or foundations!
 

john832

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#57
Sorry Einstein, but Jeremiah 10.1-8 has nothing to do with sun worship or Christmas trees....and everything about idol making If you would care to study it out, the cutting down the tree and fastening with silver and Gold is about making an ashtaroth pole, or an Idol, not a Christmas Tree.

Its fine if you don't participate in Christmas, but don't use Jer 10.1-8 to stand on, because you are in error using it and so are many that use it to oppose Christmas.
sarcasm alert*** Yeah, remember if scripture doesn't agree with some peoples' position, then the scripture really doesn't mean what it says. ***end
 

john832

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#60
Maybe you should quit driving the highway and read what I posted..never once called the tree's of Jeremiah 10 a Christmas tree and maybe you should study all about the winter solstice, the (yule) log and decking the tree with MOONS and SUNS, as well as the death of the old year and the bringing in of the new with the "return" of the sun that was practiced in the ancient world.
I will say this, if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck...