Why as a believer I do not celebrate Christmas or Easter With the Rest of the World

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What is amazing is that christmas is more focused on a big fat greddy man gifts toys revelry parties etc and not solely on Jesus hmm and many know it is true
You're buying into the garbage that the secular world is storing. Newsflash: not everyone in the world buys into the expensive gift buying hype either....
 
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chubbena

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I respect that some do not celebrate Christmas, X-mas (X in Greek still points to Christ), etc. But I have no problem celebrating it because Christ was born and not just that but was born to die for me. As for that pagan stuff, our calendar has pagan dates. As for the Santa Claus and Christ comparison that someone did, it seems convincing. But Santa in Spanish means Saint it does not mean Satan. Clause can do with something a sentence in a contract or has to do with a word in another language. Christmas was done by Roman Christian so as not to be celebrating Saturnalia with all the sinful things that were done on that day. I know this because it was a note in Edward Gibbon's History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire. God bless. Merry Christmas!
Do you know the meaning of -mas then? Roman Catholics said it means sacrifice which they do it again and again in each mass.
 
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Respectfully I say, about this: "Santa in Spanish means Saint it does not mean Satan" SANTA is the femenine for SANTO. May be you are using a wrong dictionary?

I know it better than many English speaking people.
I think he has the right intentions at least :p But he is right "SAnta" is derived from a mispronounciation of Sinterklaas XD. I've always said that but you know...they don't care.
 
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Just because there is no command present, it doesn't mean to imply we CAN'T. Jesus never commanded the church to meet every Sunday...but people do it anyway. With your logic, that's like saying you obey everything that is commanded. How long is your hair? Your beard? Do you wear jewelry? I'm pretty sure you have a very flawed logic system...i'm quite positive.
Since you mentioned that ( Jesus never commanded the church to meet every Sunday...but people do it anyway. ) The LORD´s supper is "our" breakfast (too fast, by the way). It is not on the right timely season (as Jewish people do), Just to agree on those point WE ALL ARE FOLLOWING men´s TRADITIONS.
 
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Just because there is no command present, it doesn't mean to imply we CAN'T. Jesus never commanded the church to meet every Sunday...but people do it anyway. With your logic, that's like saying you obey everything that is commanded. How long is your hair? Your beard? Do you wear jewelry? I'm pretty sure you have a very flawed logic system...i'm quite positive.

And you are definitely right he never said meet sunday horayyyyy hmmm did solomon wear jewelry hmmm will we wear crowns hmmm

hmm interesting enough though is this


[h=3]Revelation 18[/h]King James Version (KJV)

18 And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory.
2 And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.
3 For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.



All these man made traditions are money based invented by man to get rich

Note the wine is false doctrine hmm Christmas easter New years valentines day halloween etc Money Money Money
 
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God has His day satan has his day .

God has a biblical new year satan has a new year hmm and the list goes on
 

john832

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Respectfully I say, about this: "Santa in Spanish means Saint it does not mean Satan" SANTA is the femenine for SANTO. May be you are using a wrong dictionary?

I know it better than many English speaking people.
Correct about teh Spanish, the problem is this tradition did not originate in Spain. Wrong language.
 

john832

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Just because there is no command present, it doesn't mean to imply we CAN'T. Jesus never commanded the church to meet every Sunday...but people do it anyway. With your logic, that's like saying you obey everything that is commanded. How long is your hair? Your beard? Do you wear jewelry? I'm pretty sure you have a very flawed logic system...i'm quite positive.
flawed logic system?

Christ never commanded a change from the Sabbath to Sunday, but I'ma gonna do it anyways. Reminds me of a sermon I heard once by Dave Meyers entitled "Don't Tell Me What to Do".
 
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Just because there is no command present, it doesn't mean to imply we CAN'T. Jesus never commanded the church to meet every Sunday...but people do it anyway. With your logic, that's like saying you obey everything that is commanded. How long is your hair? Your beard? Do you wear jewelry? I'm pretty sure you have a very flawed logic system...i'm quite positive.
This is so logical, makes perfect logic. Yet, if we compare it to how God saw the way people worshipped Him using the golden calf, it didn't make God logic, and we are using something similar to worship God. We are worshipping God using a Christianized pagan rite. They added God worship to a pagan idea. There is a possibility that God sees that as wrong.
 
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You're buying into the garbage that the secular world is storing. Newsflash: not everyone in the world buys into the expensive gift buying hype either....
I´m storing nothing! ( :p ) Except some ADDITIONAL calories. He! He!

:p
 
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God biblical New year start hmmmm not on the 1st on January


[h=3]Exodus 12[/h]King James Version (KJV)

1 And the Lord spake unto Moses and Aaron in the land of Egypt saying,
2 This month shall be unto you the beginning of months: it shall be the first monthof the year to you.

[h=3]Exodus 13:4[/h]King James Version (KJV)

4 This day came ye out in the month Abib.
 
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chubbena

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1.) You are assuming that all Christians observe gluttony, overspending, and celebrating as in "orgies"...
2.) Christians as a whole don't always get into it...I sure don't...I can't afford it. But I can sure appreciate good food because I go to a school where food makes me sick.
3.) Concerning the celebration part...There is nothing wrong with parties. Heard of the origins of the Eucharist? Heard of the wedding Feast parable? I'm pretty sure people weren't just solemnly observing the day and letting it go...

Your logic is tossed out the window.
I never said all Christians. Don't get offended when I simply stated the fact.
The whole world (I trust you understand what I mean when I say "the whole world" and not taking it laterally) goes wild during the Christmas season doing those things. There's no peace on earth at the mall on boxing day. Drinking and driving charges multiplied on Christmas holidays. Orgies - need I say more?
Unfortunately (or is it fortunately) you don't represent the whole world.
I'm not here to speak again Eucharist, just so there's no misunderstanding.
 

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Look maybe I don't speak the kings English, but I never said nor implied that Jesus never was never born. Maybe you should take the time jolly old fellow to read what was said in the post and quit applying things that I never said nor implied. WOW I think half the people in here read the headline and jump to their own conclusions without facts or foundations!
If that's your choice not to celebrate Easter and Christmas, as other Christians and secular people do, fine!

However, I find your reasons rather pedantic...to say the least...dude!
 
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God biblical New year start hmmmm not on the 1st on January


Exodus 12

King James Version (KJV)

1 And the Lord spake unto Moses and Aaron in the land of Egypt saying,
2 This month shall be unto you the beginning of months: it shall be the first monthof the year to you.

Exodus 13:4

King James Version (KJV)

4 This day came ye out in the month Abib.
You think we don't know that? Just because something has a Pagan influence does NOT mean we are worshiping those deities...Get a grip! I love thunderstorms! But that doesn't mean I worship Thor! I love the rain but that doesn't mean I worship Hyades! Just because something is ASSOCIATED with pagan tradition, it doesn't make the object itself evil. Pagans sexified themselves up in order to worship their gods/goddesses. But that doesn't make sex inherently evil. Your logic is out the window. Yet again.
 
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chubbena

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You think we don't know that? Just because something has a Pagan influence does NOT mean we are worshiping those deities...Get a grip! I love thunderstorms! But that doesn't mean I worship Thor! I love the rain but that doesn't mean I worship Hyades! Just because something is ASSOCIATED with pagan tradition, it doesn't make the object itself evil. Pagans sexified themselves up in order to worship their gods/goddesses. But that doesn't make sex inherently evil. Your logic is out the window. Yet again.
Thunderstorms are NOT influenced by Thor. They are influenced by God. On the other hand, Christmas is from pagan holidays. I just wanted to get your logic straight here.
 
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You think we don't know that? Just because something has a Pagan influence does NOT mean we are worshiping those deities...Get a grip! I love thunderstorms! But that doesn't mean I worship Thor! I love the rain but that doesn't mean I worship Hyades! Just because something is ASSOCIATED with pagan tradition, it doesn't make the object itself evil. Pagans sexified themselves up in order to worship their gods/goddesses. But that doesn't make sex inherently evil. Your logic is out the window. Yet again.
When you follow God's word, God talks about using things with a pagan influence in our worship. That is different than worshipping something with a pagan influence. Again, we can use the golden calf as an example. The Jews didn't worship the golden calf. They used this as a stand in for God, it was something they could see with their eyes as they worshipped the true God. We are just using the pagan holiday as a means of worshipping the true God. We are asking God if that is OK to do.
 
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You think we don't know that? Just because something has a Pagan influence does NOT mean we are worshiping those deities...Get a grip! I love thunderstorms! But that doesn't mean I worship Thor! I love the rain but that doesn't mean I worship Hyades! Just because something is ASSOCIATED with pagan tradition, it doesn't make the object itself evil. Pagans sexified themselves up in order to worship their gods/goddesses. But that doesn't make sex inherently evil. Your logic is out the window. Yet again.

Think upon this verse

Daniel 7:25

King James Version (KJV)

25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out thesaints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.

The Anti christ has change times the calenders etc easter, christmas hmmm to him that knoweth to do good and doeth it not hmmmmm
 
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When you follow God's word, God talks about using things with a pagan influence in our worship. That is different than worshipping something with a pagan influence. Again, we can use the golden calf as an example. The Jews didn't worship the golden calf. They used this as a stand in for God, it was something they could see with their eyes as they worshipped the true God. We are just using the pagan holiday as a means of worshipping the true God. We are asking God if that is OK to do.
Did you read Exodus 32?

32 When the people saw that Moses was so long in coming down from the mountain, they gathered around Aaron and said, “Come, make us gods[a]who will go before us. As for this fellow Moses who brought us up out of Egypt, we don’t know what has happened to him.”
2 Aaron answered them, “Take off the gold earrings that your wives, your sons and your daughters are wearing, and bring them to me.” 3 So all the people took off their earrings and brought them to Aaron. 4 He took what they handed him and made it into an idol cast in the shape of a calf,fashioning it with a tool. Then they said, “These are your gods,[b] Israel, who brought you up out of Egypt.”

5 When Aaron saw this, he built an altar in front of the calf and announced, “Tomorrow there will be a festival to the Lord.” 6 So the next day the people rose early and sacrificed burnt offerings and presented fellowship offerings.Afterward they sat down to eat and drink and got up to indulge in revelry.
7 Then the Lord said to Moses, “Go down, because your people, whom you brought up out of Egypt, have become corrupt. 8 They have been quick to turn away from what I commanded them and have made themselves an idol cast in the shape of a calf. They have bowed down to it and sacrificed to it and have said, ‘These are your gods, Israel, who brought you up out of Egypt.’

THEY WERE WORSHIPPING AN IDOL.
 
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Did you read Exodus 32?

32 When the people saw that Moses was so long in coming down from the mountain, they gathered around Aaron and said, “Come, make us gods[a]who will go before us. As for this fellow Moses who brought us up out of Egypt, we don’t know what has happened to him.”
2 Aaron answered them, “Take off the gold earrings that your wives, your sons and your daughters are wearing, and bring them to me.” 3 So all the people took off their earrings and brought them to Aaron. 4 He took what they handed him and made it into an idol cast in the shape of a calf,fashioning it with a tool. Then they said, “These are your gods,[b] Israel, who brought you up out of Egypt.”

5 When Aaron saw this, he built an altar in front of the calf and announced, “Tomorrow there will be a festival to the Lord.” 6 So the next day the people rose early and sacrificed burnt offerings and presented fellowship offerings.Afterward they sat down to eat and drink and got up to indulge in revelry.
7 Then the Lord said to Moses, “Go down, because your people, whom you brought up out of Egypt, have become corrupt. 8 They have been quick to turn away from what I commanded them and have made themselves an idol cast in the shape of a calf. They have bowed down to it and sacrificed to it and have said, ‘These are your gods, Israel, who brought you up out of Egypt.’

THEY WERE WORSHIPPING AN IDOL.
Note they said "these are your gods, Israel, who brought you up out of Egypt. It says the same thing in Nehemiah.
Neh_9:18 Even when they cast themselves a metal calf, saying of it, "This is your god that brought you up from Egypt," and committing other gross provocations;

When King Jehu destroyed the baal temples, he let the golden calf temples remain because the calves represented God.