Why as a believer I do not celebrate Christmas or Easter With the Rest of the World
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I never said Satan. In fact, Satan was but "servant" of God in the OT. He's the accuser nevertheless.
The true enemy is, however, false religion which draws man's focus away from God.
I have no objection to anyone remembering His birth. I remember that from time to time.
But, a big but, He's not that sweet little Jesus in the manger like "Christians" sing. He's the Son of God trapped in a helpless human baby body awaiting to be executed.
His birthday is not a license for shopping as in overspending, eating as in gluttony, celebrating as in orgies.
His birthday is not a good opportunity to spread the gospel for we are to preach the word, in season or out of season. Neither is the gospel based on something disputable - like the date He's born.
His birthday is not called Christmas. May be scholars may help why it's called.
Satan probably does not have two horns.
The true enemy is, however, false religion which draws man's focus away from God.
I have no objection to anyone remembering His birth. I remember that from time to time.
But, a big but, He's not that sweet little Jesus in the manger like "Christians" sing. He's the Son of God trapped in a helpless human baby body awaiting to be executed.
His birthday is not a license for shopping as in overspending, eating as in gluttony, celebrating as in orgies.
His birthday is not a good opportunity to spread the gospel for we are to preach the word, in season or out of season. Neither is the gospel based on something disputable - like the date He's born.
His birthday is not called Christmas. May be scholars may help why it's called.
Satan probably does not have two horns.
Hmmm, if you are not under the Law, then lying is acceptable? How about stealing? Killing? What Laws are we under? None?
Christ seemed to think differently...
Mat 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
Mat 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
Mat 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
Luk 16:17 And it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one tittle of the law to fail.
Mat 24:35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.
You might also want to check out what Paul said...
Rom 3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.
1Co 7:19 Circumcision is nothing, and uncircumcision is nothing, but the keeping of the commandments of God.
1Jn 2:3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
1Jn 5:2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.
1Jn 5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.
John says the saints keep the Commandments...
Rev_14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
Christ seemed to think differently...
Mat 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
Mat 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
Mat 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
Luk 16:17 And it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one tittle of the law to fail.
Mat 24:35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.
You might also want to check out what Paul said...
Rom 3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.
1Co 7:19 Circumcision is nothing, and uncircumcision is nothing, but the keeping of the commandments of God.
1Jn 2:3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
1Jn 5:2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.
1Jn 5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.
John says the saints keep the Commandments...
Rev_14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
I respect that some do not celebrate Christmas, X-mas (X in Greek still points to Christ), etc. But I have no problem celebrating it because Christ was born and not just that but was born to die for me. As for that pagan stuff, our calendar has pagan dates. As for the Santa Claus and Christ comparison that someone did, it seems convincing. But Santa in Spanish means Saint it does not mean Satan. Clause can do with something a sentence in a contract or has to do with a word in another language. Christmas was done by Roman Christian so as not to be celebrating Saturnalia with all the sinful things that were done on that day. I know this because it was a note in Edward Gibbon's History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire. God bless. Merry Christmas!
1.) You are assuming that all Christians observe gluttony, overspending, and celebrating as in "orgies"...
2.) Christians as a whole don't always get into it...I sure don't...I can't afford it. But I can sure appreciate good food because I go to a school where food makes me sick.
3.) Concerning the celebration part...There is nothing wrong with parties. Heard of the origins of the Eucharist? Heard of the wedding Feast parable? I'm pretty sure people weren't just solemnly observing the day and letting it go...
Your logic is tossed out the window.
2.) Christians as a whole don't always get into it...I sure don't...I can't afford it. But I can sure appreciate good food because I go to a school where food makes me sick.
3.) Concerning the celebration part...There is nothing wrong with parties. Heard of the origins of the Eucharist? Heard of the wedding Feast parable? I'm pretty sure people weren't just solemnly observing the day and letting it go...
Your logic is tossed out the window.
No, he is beautiful and perfect in appearance...
Eze 28:13 Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.
Eze 28:14 Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.
Eze 28:15 Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.
2Co 11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
But his heart is pure evil...
Eze 28:15 Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.
Eze 28:16 By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire.
Eze 28:17 Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee.
Eze 28:18 Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffick; therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee.
Eze 28:13 Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.
Eze 28:14 Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.
Eze 28:15 Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.
2Co 11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
But his heart is pure evil...
Eze 28:15 Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.
Eze 28:16 By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire.
Eze 28:17 Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee.
Eze 28:18 Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffick; therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee.
I have some years telling the people why I am a Grinch, but the will not convert to my thinking and certainly not to the Christ they say they follow.
I wish any had overheard "the arguments" my brother Abraham has on coping with this season. He acknowledges the happy and loving season could be extended to all the months and years of earthly living, but he prefers following the crowds on this commercialized and traditional lie. Can I change the world telling them it is a lie Catholics set in our minds? No!
The problem is not the season but what I´m doing for the season. I could eat whatever I´m offered but, if they said: This is to CELEBRATE the spirit of (anything) I better stop my mouth and tell them my point of view (if they allow me to) (if I stay there).
Someone here published a thread with an aproximate date of Jesus birth (By Octuber). I gave some words on my calculations but ALL THAT IS UNIMPORTANT, they will do what they want to do and, if it is so sinful, God has enough power to stop this party. But He is not selfish or self-centered. What for?
We have 12 months, and more than 360 days to preach Jesus. Some churches are preaching "Joy", "material prosperity" and the likes, instead of Jesus. Some preach on suffering and many things, but bypassing the importance of living the way God wants us to live, like Christ.
I can be seat, separated from this flow that taking them away from important things: LOVE, and love doesn´t need a "season" to be shown and DEVELOPED like a seasonal bird.
I wish any had overheard "the arguments" my brother Abraham has on coping with this season. He acknowledges the happy and loving season could be extended to all the months and years of earthly living, but he prefers following the crowds on this commercialized and traditional lie. Can I change the world telling them it is a lie Catholics set in our minds? No!
The problem is not the season but what I´m doing for the season. I could eat whatever I´m offered but, if they said: This is to CELEBRATE the spirit of (anything) I better stop my mouth and tell them my point of view (if they allow me to) (if I stay there).
Someone here published a thread with an aproximate date of Jesus birth (By Octuber). I gave some words on my calculations but ALL THAT IS UNIMPORTANT, they will do what they want to do and, if it is so sinful, God has enough power to stop this party. But He is not selfish or self-centered. What for?
We have 12 months, and more than 360 days to preach Jesus. Some churches are preaching "Joy", "material prosperity" and the likes, instead of Jesus. Some preach on suffering and many things, but bypassing the importance of living the way God wants us to live, like Christ.
I can be seat, separated from this flow that taking them away from important things: LOVE, and love doesn´t need a "season" to be shown and DEVELOPED like a seasonal bird.
What days did the Apostles celebrate?
Passover and Unleavened Bread:
1Co 5:6 Your glorying is not good. Know ye not that a little leaven leaveneth the whole lump?
1Co 5:7 Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us:
1Co 5:8 Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.
Pentecost:
Act 20:16 For Paul had determined to sail by Ephesus, because he would not spend the time in Asia: for he hasted, if it were possible for him, to be at Jerusalem the day of Pentecost.
1Co 16:8 But I will tarry at Ephesus until Pentecost.
They actually celebrated the other Feast Days also, there are references made to them.
Now show me xmas and ishtar and hwo we are to celebrate them.
Passover and Unleavened Bread:
1Co 5:6 Your glorying is not good. Know ye not that a little leaven leaveneth the whole lump?
1Co 5:7 Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us:
1Co 5:8 Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.
Pentecost:
Act 20:16 For Paul had determined to sail by Ephesus, because he would not spend the time in Asia: for he hasted, if it were possible for him, to be at Jerusalem the day of Pentecost.
1Co 16:8 But I will tarry at Ephesus until Pentecost.
They actually celebrated the other Feast Days also, there are references made to them.
Now show me xmas and ishtar and hwo we are to celebrate them.
This is the thinking of today's church. Christ added to the way Moses gave law, Moses gave the physical way to express love, even though God spoke of needing the heart at that time. Christ bought out that need of heart involvement. Today's church says to get rid of anything God said through Moses.
It really isn't a new idea. Read the writings of men who led the church after the Romans killed off most of the Christian Jews. They led this thinking until Constantine made it legal, and illegal to have anything to do with the God of the Old Testament. How they read Paul helped, for Paul had to fight to preach the gospel as important, the physical ways the Jews worshipped as not the important thing. That became a teaching that worship couldn't be by anything that could be done or seen.
With all the holidays God tells us to do wiped out, made illegal, we have to have something to celebrate our Lord. Can you imagine the church doing an about face and using God's suggestions of celebrating? Today's church doesn't even recognize that the feasts shows God's plan of redemption for the world.
If we wipe out Christmas now, the entire church would have to rethink its entire stand and understanding of God. We have to have some way to celebrate God, and I think the possibility of a snowball making it in hell explains the possibility of the church turning to how God planned it. We are as stuck with the holidays of tradition as the Jews before Christ were stuck with the golden calf to use to worship God.
It really isn't a new idea. Read the writings of men who led the church after the Romans killed off most of the Christian Jews. They led this thinking until Constantine made it legal, and illegal to have anything to do with the God of the Old Testament. How they read Paul helped, for Paul had to fight to preach the gospel as important, the physical ways the Jews worshipped as not the important thing. That became a teaching that worship couldn't be by anything that could be done or seen.
With all the holidays God tells us to do wiped out, made illegal, we have to have something to celebrate our Lord. Can you imagine the church doing an about face and using God's suggestions of celebrating? Today's church doesn't even recognize that the feasts shows God's plan of redemption for the world.
If we wipe out Christmas now, the entire church would have to rethink its entire stand and understanding of God. We have to have some way to celebrate God, and I think the possibility of a snowball making it in hell explains the possibility of the church turning to how God planned it. We are as stuck with the holidays of tradition as the Jews before Christ were stuck with the golden calf to use to worship God.
1 Corinthians 10:20-22
King James Version (KJV)
20 But I say, that the things which the Gentiles sacrifice, they sacrifice to devils, and not to God: and I would not that ye should have fellowship with devils.
21 Ye cannot drink the cup of the Lord, and the cup of devils: ye cannot be partakers of the Lord's table, and of the table of devils.
22 Do we provoke the Lord to jealousy? are we stronger than he?
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Just because there is no command present, it doesn't mean to imply we CAN'T. Jesus never commanded the church to meet every Sunday...but people do it anyway. With your logic, that's like saying you obey everything that is commanded. How long is your hair? Your beard? Do you wear jewelry? I'm pretty sure you have a very flawed logic system...i'm quite positive.