Why as a believer I do not celebrate Christmas or Easter With the Rest of the World

[dcontroversal]

I do agree basically. And know about the origination of many of the 'festivals' we celebrate. Halloween is getting really rank and it is no wonder.

Each year people bring Christ back as a baby and put Him in a little manger; yet He went on to become a full grown man, accomplished so much and now sits at the right hand of God. And is coming back as a sword wielding worrier.

That being said, I have a thought about Christmas.

At one point in time our family did not celebrate Xmas for the reasons you have stated. (We are not JW's or anything like that). But eventually we acquired in-laws and the grandkids came along. Thankfully most of them are now true born again believers. I think we have rationalized, "We are in this world but not of it," and always play down the (evil) Santa Clause thing. Also we found statistics showing that more people get saved at Christmas time than at any other.

Would like to hear what you think. Can we get too "religious" about the origin of things?

I don't look at it like we get too religious about something, but rather I try and look at it the way Jesus would view it. The bible teaches the following about God's nature in the following.
1. I am the Lord thy God, I change not....
2. Jesus Christ, the same today, tomorrow and forever
3. Something that has had it's roots in evil, and paganism can never be made acceptable in God's eyes
4. God calls for us to be separate from the world..in the world , but not of it
5. The Birth, death , burial and resurrection of Jesus is holy, consecrated, was in righteousness etc and to bring down our Lord and tie him to pagan practices that have been Christianized and blended with heretical teachings seems to me to bring no honor nor glory to God

To me it is not about denying kids the right to little Christmas programs or Easter egg hunts, but rather it is about making a biblical stand on the principle that there is no way God would receive the blending of paganism and biblical worship/walk. God brought down the Northern Kingdom of Israel because of complete idolatry and then warned the Southern Kingdom of Judah..they rejected and God brought them down through multiple Babylonian invasions and deportations. Why? Because of spiritual adultery as they attempted to blend the worship of God with pagan practices. The tree is an ex idol that was used in the worship of the sun amongst other things, and to tie an ex idol to the birth of Christ is blasphemous and contrary in my view. I do not judge others who practice this for who am I to judge another man's servant. My son who is 18 has not missed any of the holidays, nor has my wife of 23 years, but ya know..we feel like we have made a stand on biblical principles and will let God judge our stance mi amigo.

 

[KohenMatt]

I don't celebrate christmas for a number of reasons:

1) There is no instruction in the Bible for Christians to celebrate it.
2) The disciples never celebrated it.
3) No "Christians" celebrated it until around 300 years AFTER Jesus was born.
4) The only reason they started celebrating it was because of syncretism with pagan worship days
5) God always told His people to have nothing to do with other religions or pagan holidays
6) Jesus wasn't born in December
7) If I'm going to celebrate His birth, I'm going to celebrate it in the right season at least.

 

[buckets]

I don't celebrate christmas for a number of reasons:

1) There is no instruction in the Bible for Christians to celebrate it.
2) The disciples never celebrated it.
3) No "Christians" celebrated it until around 300 years AFTER Jesus was born.
4) The only reason they started celebrating it was because of syncretism with pagan worship days
5) God always told His people to have nothing to do with other religions or pagan holidays
6) Jesus wasn't born in December
7) If I'm going to celebrate His birth, I'm going to celebrate it in the right season at least.

Do you celebrate any non-Biblical holidays

 

[john832]

Do you celebrate any non-Biblical holidays

We celebrate Thanksgiving. We consider it a very special holiday (not a holy convocation) and we count our blessings and give thanks for them to the One who has blessed us so.

(If you wish to raise my ire, call it turkey day.)

 

[KohenMatt]

Do you celebrate any non-Biblical holidays

Only the ones that don't pretend to have anything to do specifically with God.

 

[buckets]

Only the ones that don't pretend to have anything to do specifically with God.

Thank you my question was sincere and that makes sense

So an example The 4th of July is okay because it is just a national holiday of independence
Not saying you celebrate it just that it is kinda either way doesn't matter

 

[GreenNnice]

But, controversialD, we are to be 'in the world, but not of the world.'

What if God wants you in the world , going to parties, not to hoopla the food and presents but to reach others to Christ. You mentioned the Holy Spirit does that work and doesn't need a holiday to work. True. He doesn't need anything, He can work despite us.

But, what if the HS is working during the holiday in you but you are choosing not to work. Is it an uncomfortable feeling for you is my question? Maybe, it's a social issue for you and not a spiritual one, because all you say just reeks of legalism.

By spending money and giving gifts to friends, especially those who are not Christians, this is an example of Love and doesn't it say in God's holy, inspired words that "of faith, hope, and, love, the greatest is love.'

 

[Elizabeth619]

I celebrate Christmas. So please tell me how I'm going to Hell and how morally superior everyone else is bc they don't observe the holiday...coz that's what I'm getting from this thread.

 

[2Thewaters]

Worshipping impotent satan is not a good way to please Jesus.

 

[2Thewaters]

1. mass is a pagan ritual where the priest CREATES God as a cracker and eats him
no kidding go look it u. Blasphemy is not good.
2. Idol worship is forbidden and so impotent satan fills xmas with idols
3. Xmas is on the darkest day of the year, isnt that a clue?
4. Jesus told us not to worship Tammuz, xmas is tammuz birthday
5. Its not you will or will not go to hell bedcause there is no hell
6. it is just you will not choose Jesus as you king to rule over you so you reject his kingdom in you
7. Rejecting JEsus words and authority is bad news.
8. The christmas balls on the tree are derived from babylonian child sacrifice, where they hang the heads of the abortions on the fir tree as a sacrifice to their Gods for blessings.
8 lights on the tree are from candles used in pagan worship
9. Saint nikolaus is actually SATAN CLAWS
10. Hot cross buns are forbidden in the bible that is why impotent satan put them in cristmas, they were food offerings to tammuz
11. Ezekiel 8 talks about how horrible it is to worship the sun or pray to the east, christmas early morning mass is designed to give God the finger.
12. Santa is portrayed as a typical child molester, and a lot of them are.
13. everything about it, including traditional ham makes God nauseated.
there is lots more, but even one of these would make me give it up

but hey, if you dont care what God thinks do what you want you arent going to his kingdom anyway.

Only those go who have given their whole lives to him dedicated to follow his every word and love him with all your heart and soul and mind.

I dont care what you do, whatever you do do it quickly.
I just telling you why I wont keep christmas cause I found out it was worshipping satan (claws)

And I wont eat ham because ham makes him gag. like smoke in his nose look it up...
If you love God and you still want to do all these things he hates you dont love him bas much as you love impotent satans expensive offerings

I noticed you called yourself a believer
in the Bible?
Jesus would never keep christmas that is the best reason, Jesus is not catholic he is protestant.

 

[hopesprings]

not this again
it's the same thing every christmas and easter....

 

[KohenMatt]

Thank you my question was sincere and that makes sense

So an example The 4th of July is okay because it is just a national holiday of independence
Not saying you celebrate it just that it is kinda either way doesn't matter

Yep, I celebrate that, Thanksgiving, Memorial Day, etc. But I don't do Christmas or Easter because of their origins. I choose to celebrate the days God told His people to celebrate. Not the ones man made up to try and worship Him.

And just to clarify, I do celebrate His resurrection at Passover.

 

[chubbena]

Thank you my question was sincere and that makes sense

So an example The 4th of July is okay because it is just a national holiday of independence
Not saying you celebrate it just that it is kinda either way doesn't matter

I hope you are well and not swamped by law keepers or anyone else on this forum. You are good so far, right?
I celebrate all holidays the government and my employer give me. There's no reason not to.
However, I would just take the holidays as is, not adding any false religion to them or taking any truthfulness from them.
Questions to ask:
If one were to celebrate the birthday of Yeshua like we celebrate ours, why is it not called birthday of Yeshua but rather Christmas, where the word means sacrifice. If that day were to commemorate His sacrifice, why all the joy? Shouldn't we be mournful?
If one were to commemorate His death and resurrection, isn't it more appropriate to do it on Passover because our Savior is the Passover lamb than on Easter which the name is derived from pagan goddess?

 

[lydever91]

I hope you are well and not swamped by law keepers or anyone else on this forum. You are good so far, right?
I celebrate all holidays the government and my employer give me. There's no reason not to.
However, I would just take the holidays as is, not adding any false religion to them or taking any truthfulness from them.
Questions to ask:
If one were to celebrate the birthday of Yeshua like we celebrate ours, why is it not called birthday of Yeshua but rather Christmas, where the word means sacrifice. If that day were to commemorate His sacrifice, why all the joy? Shouldn't we be mournful?
If one were to commemorate His death and resurrection, isn't it more appropriate to do it on Passover because our Savior is the Passover lamb than on Easter which the name is derived from pagan goddess?

It is not the birth date of Christ. He was conceived, not born on the Christ mass date.

Just because the government and you get time off work doesn't mean you need to celebrate the days. There is reason to: did the Lord tell us to celebrate them? or did He tell us to celebrate Passover, Feast of harvest, and the Feast of ingathering.

As far as mourning His sacrifice, that is ridiculous. Without His sacrifice, we would all be condemned to hell because we're all sinners. We are to celebrate it. It's sad that He was condemned as He was, but it's joyful to know that His sacrifice is the reason we may truly live after this physical life.

Easter was mentioned in the very beginning of the thread. Not only is it pagan, King Herod, who wanted Jesus dead, celebrated it: Act_12:4 And when he had apprehended him, he put him in prison, and delivered him to four quaternions of soldiers to keep him; intending after Easter to bring him forth to the people.
Why celebrate a day that someone who wanted our Lord dead celebrated?


If there's any day we should celebrate and give gifts, it should be in Abib. Remember, the Lord told all the Hebrews in Egypt to borrow of their neighbor in Egypt.
Exo_3:22 But every woman shall borrow of her neighbour, and of her that sojourneth in her house, jewels of silver, and jewels of gold, and raiment: and ye shall put them upon your sons, and upon your daughters; and ye shall spoil the Egyptians.

We should celebrate knowing that we're no longer strangers in a strange land, just as we were told to by God.

 

[chubbena]

It is not the birth date of Christ. He was conceived, not born on the Christ mass date.

I don't know where you get that. Care to explain?

Just because the government and you get time off work doesn't mean you need to celebrate the days.

Sorry, I used the wrong word. I should have said I enjoy the holidays in the sense that I actually take the time off.

There is reason to: did the Lord tell us to celebrate them? or did He tell us to celebrate Passover, Feast of harvest, and the Feast of ingathering.

I actually am gearing my vacations to the feast days mentioned in the Bible. The reason I'm doing this is because I want to figure out the meanings of those feasts.

As far as mourning His sacrifice, that is ridiculous. Without His sacrifice, we would all be condemned to hell because we're all sinners. We are to celebrate it. It's sad that He was condemned as He was, but it's joyful to know that His sacrifice is the reason we may truly live after this physical life.

I don't see the reason to celebrate. It's our sins that led to the sacrifice of one innocent man. I would use the word thankful or grateful.

Easter was mentioned in the very beginning of the thread. Not only is it pagan, King Herod, who wanted Jesus dead, celebrated it: Act_12:4 And when he had apprehended him, he put him in prison, and delivered him to four quaternions of soldiers to keep him; intending after Easter to bring him forth to the people.
Why celebrate a day that someone who wanted our Lord dead celebrated?

Isn't it my question?

If there's any day we should celebrate and give gifts, it should be in Abib. Remember, the Lord told all the Hebrews in Egypt to borrow of their neighbor in Egypt.
Exo_3:22 But every woman shall borrow of her neighbour, and of her that sojourneth in her house, jewels of silver, and jewels of gold, and raiment: and ye shall put them upon your sons, and upon your daughters; and ye shall spoil the Egyptians.

We should celebrate knowing that we're no longer strangers in a strange land, just as we were told to by God.

Who needs gifts except for the poor?

 

[john832]

It is not the birth date of Christ. He was conceived, not born on the Christ mass date.

It is a rather complicated story but it has to do with John the Baptist conception and the timing is derived from it. I am rather busy here at the moment and don't have time to wade through this for those who don't know about it, perhaps lydever91 might be able to.

 

[chubbena]

It is a rather complicated story but it has to do with John the Baptist conception and the timing is derived from it. I am rather busy here at the moment and don't have time to wade through this for those who don't know about it, perhaps lydever91 might be able to.

Whether it's true or not it's just an educated guess. All I know is it's not His birthday. On another note I stop celebrating mine because it was to do with the old self. I have no intention to start celebrating my baptism date though so life is kind of boring to some.

 

[buckets]

I hope you are well and not swamped by law keepers or anyone else on this forum. You are good so far, right?
I celebrate all holidays the government and my employer give me. There's no reason not to.
However, I would just take the holidays as is, not adding any false religion to them or taking any truthfulness from them.
Questions to ask:
If one were to celebrate the birthday of Yeshua like we celebrate ours, why is it not called birthday of Yeshua but rather Christmas, where the word means sacrifice. If that day were to commemorate His sacrifice, why all the joy? Shouldn't we be mournful?
If one were to commemorate His death and resurrection, isn't it more appropriate to do it on Passover because our Savior is the Passover lamb than on Easter which the name is derived from pagan goddess?

No I get everyone's view point and am fine happy as can be I'm filled with The Spirit it's the only way I can be

I just ask questions to clarify and learn others beliefs!

This all by the way makes sense I see your points

We celebrate Christ's resurrection but don't call it anything but that
We honor the Passover as well acknowledging God's love for those who obey him

Thank you for explaining your view so clearly

 

[john832]

Whether it's true or not it's just an educated guess. All I know is it's not His birthday. On another note I stop celebrating mine because it was to do with the old self. I have no intention to start celebrating my baptism date though so life is kind of boring to some.

There is no way to know what day exactly Christ was conceived on but it was during the timeof the year of the winter solstice. His birth is somewhere around the Feast of Trumpets through the Feast of Tabernacles.

 

[buckets]

each day can be a celebration unto the Lord check out the Psalms of King David

As for Christmas my family uses the day for a day of remembrance of the birth of Christ
We sing songs of worship
Read the story of conception and birth from the book of Luke

Gifts are not exchanged because we have no needs so we give notes to each other saying what we did in honor of Christ in love for each other
We also take food to families we do that all year around to honor and obey God

An example is of the note card exchanges are:

Buckets,
We gave coats to children at your school
love,
Dad

Mom,
I made knitted hats for the first graders
love,
buckets

This is not saying anyone else should not buy each other or make each other gifts
just sharing what we do
Those that don't celebrate at all I understand your perspective

I was taught if done out of and with love as Christ spoke of this pleases God
I will say organizations like the Salvation Army do work God spoke of feeding and clothing others
they use Christmas as a time to do much good
I think Christ would like cold children to have coats to me Christmas is a time to honor Christ

However I have been raised with a great advantage from the youngest of ages I learned everything on everyday should be done to honor Christ
I have a lot to learn about The Bible so far in my 14 years all my study has been by my father directed at the words in red If Christ said it I've learned it now I am slowly learning other scripture