Why as a believer I do not celebrate Christmas or Easter With the Rest of the World

dcontroversal · Dec 18, 2013

I agree with the above statements! I sometimes stand amazed at the ability of the enemy to sneak leaven into the pile and end up leading people into heretical practices or down a path that makes their worship or practice unacceptable. You Satan is against the following list:

1. God Almighty
2. The Nation of Israel
3. All believers
4. All humanity

The devil, as a roaring lion walks about seeking whom he may devour. May the God of heaven and earth give us all wisdom to see the subtle heresies that so easily beset us in our walk and end up ruining our witness as the Spirit of God only accompanies the truth! God bless the house of Israel and peace be upon Jerusalem.

Nautilus · Dec 18, 2013

cjordan38 said:

well it also doesnt say to spread your scrooge-iness on forums...so why must you do that?

dcontroversal · Dec 18, 2013

Nautilus said:

I agree, and we are called to holy and to be consecrated unto the Master's use while walking a path that sets for a biblical stance
for God. The book of Malachi is right to the point of what God looks for when it comes to a spiritual stance. He makes 7 assertions AGAINST THE PRIESTS AND PEOPLE because they had become lax in their service, worship and sacrificial system by offering second best and what's left over while refusing to make a stand in God's Holiness.

dcontroversal · Dec 18, 2013

Agricola said:

You are correct and I will also add that what has been written and given in the bible is sufficient for us to know what is biblical and or what is not...line upon line and precept upon precept while being open and honest with what has been given in the scriptures and being receptive to the conviction of the Holy Spirit combined with truth should makes the honest believe sensitive to what is acceptable in God's eyes as well as what is un-acceptable in His eyes

dcontroversal · Dec 18, 2013

Elizabeth619 said:

Well I suggest you re-read my first statement as I said That many who claim Christ practice Christmas and it is their business and simply stated why I don't...never once stated that you or anyone who practices Christmas would go to hell. Wal-Mart sells glasses if you need them and they are fairly cheap.

cjordan38 · Dec 18, 2013

Im not a scrooge but the bible does say spread the good news correct? So if I dont tell what I know im going to be held accountable and go to hell. Not trying to go there...So you tell me if you know to do right would you do wrong? The bible does say woe unto the man that knows to do right and does wrong.

dcontroversal · Dec 18, 2013

cjordan38 said:

It will never be right to do wrong..ever! And you are correct in thinking that we are to witness every chance we get while being accountable and or exonerated based upon whether or not we open our mouth and warn the wicked man/woman about their wicked ways and what they need to do to be right. Ezekiel has much to say about the watchmen that refuses to blow the trumpet of warning. Keep preaching mi amigo and warn as many as you can!

Nautilus · Dec 18, 2013

cjordan38 said:

trying to ruin christmas isn't spreading the gospel

megaman125 · Dec 18, 2013

dcontroversal said:

A lot of people world wide who claim Christ celebrate Christmas as the birth of Jesus and if they so choose then who am I to judge them! Having said that, I for one do not as I do not believe you can "Christianize" a ex Babylonian-Pagan-Catholicized holy day, as that which is crooked cannot be made straight. I know I will catch it for saying that, but the truth is the truth. Read Jeremiah 10:1-8 which describes accurately the practice of sun worship, the cutting down of a tree, nailing it up right and decking it with Gold and Silver. This practice goes all of the way back to the beginning of the worship of the sun, hence being centered around the winter solstice. The R.C.C. teaches a form of church salvation and wanted to get as many pagans in as possible. Hence Christ Mass! The same was done with the worship of fertility gods and it being tied to the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus, and contrary to the King James translators the word Easter in Acts 12:4 is Passover. I have a hard time believing that God would accept the blending of the birth of the righteous Son of God with an ex pagan holy day that has been Christianized and further more it is even more difficult for me to accept that God would receive a blending of the most glorious death, burial and resurrection of the Savior with an ex pagan holy day that celebrated fertility with the use of prostitutes and sexual perversion. That which is crooked CANNOT be made straight no matter how many religions try to CHRISTIANIZE it. On top of that the scriptures clearly teach that if we are going to glory then we are to glory in the CROSS of Christ as without His death, burial and resurrection His birth would have been in vain!

You go on and on about how wrong it is to celebrate the birth of Jesus on Dec. 25th. And yet, you provide absolutely no date as to when Jesus was born.

Fact: It's not wrong or un-Christian to celebrate the birth of Jesus on Dec. 25th. What is un-Christian is telling Christians not to celebrate the birth of Jesus on Dec. 25th.

cjordan38 · Dec 18, 2013

Im just spreading the gospel. This holiday doesnt hold me back from spreading the Word. If I deny the Word he shall know me not when I leave this world. If Christmas is ruin I cant care because im not ashamed of my God!

dcontroversal · Dec 18, 2013

megaman125 said:

I suggest two things for all who want to mouth without foundations.
1. Study the bible and Jewish history as the shepherds would not of had their sheep out in the middle of the wilderness in the middle of winter.
2. If you believe it's ok to blend truth, ex-paganism and heretical teachings and expect God to agree with it, accept it and then wants you to promote it as Christian I suggest you study the history of Israel and Judah. Serious...but then what do you expect as "wisdom is justified of her children" go learn what that means .

megaman125 · Dec 18, 2013

dcontroversal said:

Ah yes, the typical "Go and study" comment, becuase obviously no one here has ever studied the Bible if they don't agree with your view.

You want to proclaim how you're wiser and more knowledgable than others? Then please, teach me the following things.

1. If Jesus was not born on Dec. 25th, then what is the exact date that He was born?
2. If you do not have an exact date, then is it sinful to celebrate the birth of Jesus on Dec. 25th? If it is, then explain why.

JesusChica1991 · Dec 18, 2013

dcontroversal said:

Mary and Joseph were heading to BETHLEHEM during the census. The census was always done in the spring...never the winter months.

dcontroversal · Dec 18, 2013

megaman125 said:

1. didn't say I knew more than you.
2. nobody but God, Mary, Joseph probably know the exact date
3. the shepherds were in fields..Hebrew history and manners and customs dictate was not in December
4. Show me one scripture that states that we are to worship His birth with the rest of the world
5. It is NOT UNBIBLICAL NOR A SIN TO REMEMBER THE BIRTH OF CHRIST AND OR TO PREACH ABOUT HIS VIRGIN BIRTH
6. I PLAINLY AND ONLY DISAGREE WITH THE MODERN PRACTICE AS IT'S ROOTS ARE FOUND IN A BLENDING OF PAGANISM AND HERETICAL MIS-TRUTHS.
7. NEVER SAID THAT PEOPLE WHO DISAGREE WITH ME DON'T STUDY

TAKE A BREATH mi amigo and agree to be disagreeable

dcontroversal · Dec 18, 2013

JesusChica1991 said:

See the real question is why the 25th of December? and the answer is the winter solstice.
and then why did they choose this date...

secularhermit · Dec 18, 2013

dcontroversal said:

I agree wijh that!

Additional, just to think a bit, if we were given a date (to celebrate it) then people who follow HOROSCOPES would have their boast or pride when saying, I was born in Capricorn, or anything like that.

I know it well because I grew in a Catholic home having that syncretism and more sins to repent (like The Oija, attenting to divinators and so on). I only grew around those things I avoid and cannot love ( I never loved that, but I believed partly in the horoscope lies)

Elizabeth619 · Dec 18, 2013

dcontroversal said:

I'll buy you a pair for Christmas since you can't seem to read nor comprehend my post. I was referring to people. As in PLURAL. not singular meaning referring to one specific person. So if you're not guilty of the things I said then my post wouldn't apply to you now would it?

Agricola · Dec 18, 2013

My point about OFFICIAL BIRTHDAY is obviously ignored. CHristmas is Christ's OFFICIAL birthday which humans have given, obviously in the light that we have no idea of his actual birth. All monarchs of the UK Have an official birthday and their actual birthday, the official birthday of Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II is not the same for all Commonwealth countries, they celebrate the Monarchs Birthday on days more appropriate according to their existing holidays and so on.

Therefore all this talk about when was Jesus birthday is neither here nor there and is not a valid point.

I see ridiculous conclusions being made about what satan is doing to Christmas, Satan is trying to destroy Christmas by removing Christ from it, so if you want to not bother with Christmas, then go ahead and return Christmas to Satan and finally let Christ be removed from Christmas all together.

It appears that some Christians are blind to the word Christmas just as many none believers are, look again, its CHRIST MASS, it belongs to Christ, so lets keep it for Christ and promote Christs birth, not father Christmas, its bad enough where many non-beleivers say "its all about Santa", when infact its all about Christ, have you noticed how its Santa and not Father Christmas? obviously another part of removing Christ from the equation.

Hizikyah · Dec 18, 2013

a satanic inspiered Constantine was the one who put Messiah in bablonian tree day know as christmas

megaman125 · Dec 18, 2013

dcontroversal said:

I need to take a breath? I'm not the one that typed half a post in all caps in response to a couple of simple and straight-forward questions.

As for responding to what you said.

1. You're the one that said I needed to go study more because I didn't view things the way you did.

2. Ah, so you admit you don't know the exact date. Well then, if you don't know the exact date, then there is absolutely nothing wrong with picking a date (like Dec. 25th), and celebrating Jesus' birth.

3. So what? You can tell me Jesus' birth didn't happen on Dec. 25th all you want, but you continually fail to provide an alternative date to those who do celebrate the birth of Jesus. The only conclusion I can draw from this behavioral pattern is that you don't want us to celebrate the birth of Jesus at all. And the issue with that is it's strictly an anti-Christian behavior. Now, if you'd like to provide us with an alternate date to celebrate Jesus' birth, we can clear this all up, or you can just type half a post in all caps again in a huffy fit. Your choice.

4. I don't need to because I never claimed such a thing. I only claimed that it's not wrong to celebrate the birth of Jesus on Dec. 25th, just like it's not wrong for my local church to have everyone hold their communion cups up after communion and say "Long live the King." It's not strictly scriptural as you're looking for, but it not anti-scriptual either.

5. Welcome to my point.

6. That's all fine and dandy for you to be against ancient pagan practices. But just keep in mind, just because some Christians like to celebrate Christmas differently than you doesn't mean they are worshiping pagan fake gods. One can have a Christmas celebration and celebrate the one true God. One can have a Christmas tree and say that it symbolizes the everlasting life of Christ without it symbolizing pagan fake god worship. It's all about how one views the symbol. If YOU view the Christmas tree as an ancient pagan fake god worship, then by all means, YOU should stay away from it. However, that doesn't mean everyone HAS to stay away from it, because not everyone views a Christmas tree the way you do.

7. You were the one spouting off the "go and study" and "go and learn" comments just because I disagreed with you. It seems you are one having problems handling differing views.

dcontroversal said:

Fun fact: Winter solstice isn't on Dec. 25th.

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