Yes, Christmas and Easter both have pagan origins. But that doesn't really matter if someone wants to celebrate Christmas as the celebration of Jesus' birth. What it should mean is that people stop getting angry with those who don't celbrate Christmas, or say Happy Holidays instead. People should stop getting angry at people for "taking Christ out of Christmas" because he was never in Christmas until the Catholic church established the holiday. Annual Christmas celebrations aren't in the bible, so no Christian is obligated to celebrate it. But there is nothing wrong with it either.
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Whoa, I just realized something... where is the part about how "Santa" is "Satan" with two letters transposed? Every "Christmas is eeeeeevil!" thread has to have some mention of the Santa-Satan connection. I think it's in the rules or something. Or at least it's a tradition.
Come on people, get it together! Not only did we bypass complaining about Halloween and Thanksgiving, we can't even get Christmas griping down right? FOCUS people, FOCUS!
Oh well, we started this thread before Halloween... we should have time to get it right before Christmas gets here. Maybe by page 30 or so.
Come on people, get it together! Not only did we bypass complaining about Halloween and Thanksgiving, we can't even get Christmas griping down right? FOCUS people, FOCUS!
Oh well, we started this thread before Halloween... we should have time to get it right before Christmas gets here. Maybe by page 30 or so.
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Aren't you ladies made for that kind of thing, kinda goes along with bearing children, very labor intensive. BTW - I am only kidding, but you should be commended your of labor of love. Concerning Christmas, at this point in life to celebrate the Savior coming into the world to save sinners is a great celebration and if that is what motivates us to give gifts to other may it always include that kind of love that motivated the Father to send His only begotten Son. May there always be goodwill toward all men, especially during the Christmas season.
I don't really understand all the hubbub about whether certain holidays are pagan or not. IMO, it is HOW you celebrate the holiday that matters. If you celebrate Christmas by going to church and singing Christmas hymns, then good. That's what we're supposed to do: celebrate Jesus' birth. Pray and sing praises to him.
If you only celebrate Christmas by getting the biggest tree, most expensive decorations and the most lavish presents, then you are celebrating in the wrong spirit. If all you care about is how tall and lavish the tree is, or how expensive the presents you give and get are, then THAT is when Christmas is being celebrated paganly. The presents, decorations and tree become more important than Jesus. And NOTHING should be more important than Jesus!!
If you only celebrate Christmas by getting the biggest tree, most expensive decorations and the most lavish presents, then you are celebrating in the wrong spirit. If all you care about is how tall and lavish the tree is, or how expensive the presents you give and get are, then THAT is when Christmas is being celebrated paganly. The presents, decorations and tree become more important than Jesus. And NOTHING should be more important than Jesus!!
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i'm brunette since birth (with three blonde sisters), but sometimes when i say something,
my husband will wink at me and say, your blonde is showing.
he explained to some new friends once that i was the only woman he knows with brown hair and blonde roots...
which, apparently, affect my 'brain'. (though its existence hasn't been scientifically verified, either!)
my husband will wink at me and say, your blonde is showing.
he explained to some new friends once that i was the only woman he knows with brown hair and blonde roots...
which, apparently, affect my 'brain'. (though its existence hasn't been scientifically verified, either!)
Pagans were praying before there was a Christian. They met in congregations, had temples like many of our churches. They had images of their gods, our churches often have a portrait representing Jesus on lobby walls. There are statues of Jesus in many Christian centers. Pagans chanted repetitiously. I've been in many churches that do that, repeating all or part of one line over and over many times in worship. I'll let that list rest.
Christians do many things like the pagans did, there being mainly ours is the only living God. Probably most of the first-church gentiles had been pagans, not having much news concerning what appropriate acts they should practice. I'm not saying pagan ideas are preferred, but the manner of activity will be in common. People don't have much more options that might seem more biblical in nature. Prayer is essential, so we keep that practice. Right? We don't stop just because pagans pray to their "god".
Christians do many things like the pagans did, there being mainly ours is the only living God. Probably most of the first-church gentiles had been pagans, not having much news concerning what appropriate acts they should practice. I'm not saying pagan ideas are preferred, but the manner of activity will be in common. People don't have much more options that might seem more biblical in nature. Prayer is essential, so we keep that practice. Right? We don't stop just because pagans pray to their "god".
