^ Speaking of your Post #453...
... may the readers CONSIDER the following, also:
Note that "H7725 - shuv / shub" is used 2x in this verse, and is sometimes translated "again" (like in the 2nd occurrence in this verse)...
...but in the first occurrence in this verse, imho, it could legit be translated "resume [rebuild Jerusalem]," as in, "AGAIN [rebuild Jerusalem]" (i.e. after the pause, from the time of the first mention of this re: Cyrus--not that it was actually being builded yet, tho the temple was...)...
...IOW, "FROM the going forth of the commandment [/word] to RESUME [H7725 - shuv / shub, or 'AGAIN'] rebuild Jerusalem UNTO the Messiah prince..." (which would be the later one, in Neh2 )--SEE ALSO especially Ezra 4:19-21,23a (quoted in part, below):
H7725 - shuv / shub (in bold) -
Smith's Literal Translation -
"And thou shalt know and understand, from the going forth of the word to turn back and to build Jerusalem even to Messiah the leader, seventy weeks [<--a typo perhaps??? ('seven wks')], and sixty and two weeks: and the street shall turn back and be built, and the ditch, in the trouble of the times."
https://biblehub.com/text/daniel/9-25.htm
Ezra 4:21 (referenced at top) -
Berean Study Bible -
"Now, therefore, issue an order for these men to stop, so that this city will not be rebuilt until I so order."
King James Bible -
"Give ye now commandment to cause these men to cease, and that this city be not builded, until another commandment shall be given from me."
https://biblehub.com/text/ezra/4-21.htm
If this is the case, then it (Dan9:25) is specifically addressing the "going forth of the commandment / word" that actually executed the rebuilding of it, rather than merely the initial thoughts [idea] of it [via Cyrus--tho certainly that is important too, in its place, but its place doesn't seem to be what is being referenced here in this Dan9:25 verse, as I see it]...
When did this building effort occur? Because THIS is referring to Dan 9:25. Undoubtedly.
BTW....you are so far in the wrong, so often, that I have had you on ignore for a long long time.
Neh 1:3
And they said to me, “The survivors who are left from the captivity in the province are there in great distress and reproach. The wall of Jerusalem is also broken down, and its gates are burned with fire.”
Neh 2:3
and said to the king, “May the king live forever! Why should my face not be sad, when the CITY, the place of my fathers' tombs, lies waste, and its gates are burned with fire?”
Neh 2:8
“and a letter to Asaph the keeper of the king's forest, that he must give me timber to make beams for the gates of the citadel which pertains to the temple, for the city wall, and for the house that I will occupy.” And the king granted them to me according to the good hand of my God upon me.
Neh 2:13
And I went out by night through the Valley Gate to the Serpent Well and the Refuse Gate, and viewed the walls of Jerusalem which were broken down and its gates which were burned with fire.
Neh 2:17
Then I said to them, “You see the distress that we are in, how Jerusalem lies waste, and its gates are burned with fire. Come and let us build the wall of Jerusalem, that we may no longer be a reproach.”
Neh 6:1
Now it happened when Sanballat, Tobiah, Geshem the Arab, and the rest of our enemies heard that I had rebuilt the wall, and that there were no breaks left in it (though at that time I had not hung the doors in the gates),
BTW....you are so far in the wrong, so often, that I have had you on ignore for a long long time.
Neh 1:3
And they said to me, “The survivors who are left from the captivity in the province are there in great distress and reproach. The wall of Jerusalem is also broken down, and its gates are burned with fire.”
Neh 2:3
and said to the king, “May the king live forever! Why should my face not be sad, when the CITY, the place of my fathers' tombs, lies waste, and its gates are burned with fire?”
Neh 2:8
“and a letter to Asaph the keeper of the king's forest, that he must give me timber to make beams for the gates of the citadel which pertains to the temple, for the city wall, and for the house that I will occupy.” And the king granted them to me according to the good hand of my God upon me.
Neh 2:13
And I went out by night through the Valley Gate to the Serpent Well and the Refuse Gate, and viewed the walls of Jerusalem which were broken down and its gates which were burned with fire.
Neh 2:17
Then I said to them, “You see the distress that we are in, how Jerusalem lies waste, and its gates are burned with fire. Come and let us build the wall of Jerusalem, that we may no longer be a reproach.”
Neh 6:1
Now it happened when Sanballat, Tobiah, Geshem the Arab, and the rest of our enemies heard that I had rebuilt the wall, and that there were no breaks left in it (though at that time I had not hung the doors in the gates),
... may the readers CONSIDER the following, also:
Note that "H7725 - shuv / shub" is used 2x in this verse, and is sometimes translated "again" (like in the 2nd occurrence in this verse)...
...but in the first occurrence in this verse, imho, it could legit be translated "resume [rebuild Jerusalem]," as in, "AGAIN [rebuild Jerusalem]" (i.e. after the pause, from the time of the first mention of this re: Cyrus--not that it was actually being builded yet, tho the temple was...)...
...IOW, "FROM the going forth of the commandment [/word] to RESUME [H7725 - shuv / shub, or 'AGAIN'] rebuild Jerusalem UNTO the Messiah prince..." (which would be the later one, in Neh2 )--SEE ALSO especially Ezra 4:19-21,23a (quoted in part, below):
H7725 - shuv / shub (in bold) -
Smith's Literal Translation -
"And thou shalt know and understand, from the going forth of the word to turn back and to build Jerusalem even to Messiah the leader, seventy weeks [<--a typo perhaps??? ('seven wks')], and sixty and two weeks: and the street shall turn back and be built, and the ditch, in the trouble of the times."
https://biblehub.com/text/daniel/9-25.htm
Ezra 4:21 (referenced at top) -
Berean Study Bible -
"Now, therefore, issue an order for these men to stop, so that this city will not be rebuilt until I so order."
King James Bible -
"Give ye now commandment to cause these men to cease, and that this city be not builded, until another commandment shall be given from me."
https://biblehub.com/text/ezra/4-21.htm
If this is the case, then it (Dan9:25) is specifically addressing the "going forth of the commandment / word" that actually executed the rebuilding of it, rather than merely the initial thoughts [idea] of it [via Cyrus--tho certainly that is important too, in its place, but its place doesn't seem to be what is being referenced here in this Dan9:25 verse, as I see it]...
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