Why did god create dinosaurs and cavemen?

[2Thewaters]

Prehistoric folks were 9 feet tall
their brains were twenty times sharper than ours
their IQ was around 500
and they had the strength of ten men
the impotent satan doesnt want you to know this.

their lifespan was 900 years and declined rapidly
God gave them meat to eat to shorten their lives
that is why I sont eat meat, my life is short enough.

 

[2Thewaters]

God made adam and eve
and they were beautiful and not hairy

the first religious discussion I had was with my neighbor I was 5 and he was 6
and we were playing GOI joes.

and he said something about how we came from monkeys

he was baptist sort of
So I asked him if God created adam and eve and he said yes
I said then were did the monkeys fit in?
and he said adam and eve had baby monkeys which then grew u to be human
I told him his religion was not according to the Bible
so we came to the conclusion our teachers in school were lying to us.
we did not come from monkeys

 

[Karraster]

God made adam and eve
and they were beautiful and not hairy

the first religious discussion I had was with my neighbor I was 5 and he was 6
and we were playing GOI joes.

and he said something about how we came from monkeys

he was baptist sort of
So I asked him if God created adam and eve and he said yes
I said then were did the monkeys fit in?
and he said adam and eve had baby monkeys which then grew u to be human
I told him his religion was not according to the Bible
so we came to the conclusion our teachers in school were lying to us.
we did not come from monkeys

Yeah, we were fed that garbage in public school way back when I was going. Since then, I've lost count of all the lies that was taught in public school. Shameful.

 

[2Thewaters]

evolution is all about removing commandment 4 from our minds so we cant get divine recreation and whup satan continually by grace.

 

[TaylorTG]

@2thewaters

Prehistoric folks were 9 feet tall
their brains were twenty times sharper than ours
their IQ was around 500
and they had the strength of ten men
the impotent Satan doesn't want you to know this.
their lifespan was 900 years and declined rapidly
God gave them meat to eat to shorten their lives
that is why I sont eat meat, my life is short enough.

Uhhh.......

evolution is all about removing commandment 4 from our minds so we cant get divine recreation and whup satan continually by grace.

Thanks for the pointer!

@2thewaters and Karraster

Yeah, we were fed that garbage in public school way back when I was going. Since then, I've lost count of all the lies that was taught in public school. Shameful.

When I was in the states, my teachers also supported evolution.

 

[Karraster]

When I was in the states, my teachers also supported evolution.



Is it taught in your country?

 

[TaylorTG]

Is it taught in your country?

In the Philippines? Eh..nope. The subjects I took concerning the Earth were chemistry and social studies. The social studies textbook my class had doesn't mention evolution.

We're the only Catholic country in pretty much all of Asia. Our faith is fairly strong, with our own schools encouraging us to pray.

 

[Gjolll]

Thank goodness we have your neutral worldview to set us right in the interpretation of these Bible passages!
God promised to never again send another flood to wipe out all of humanity. If the flood was only localised, God would have been lying, since we have many floods throughout history, some of them huge. But since we know that God does not lie (because we know he's Absolute Truth) and without sin, your premise that there was no world-wide flood must be faulty.

You (and others around here) have a biblical interpretation that is not necessarily what the bible is saying.

The Bible was only ever about God's elect. It was never about pagans. Pagans are "dogs" (cf Christ).

Dogs can evolve as animals evolve. Adam and Eve were the first believers. Noah's family was a family of believers.

What happens if those God destroyed in the flood were the descendants of Adam who sinned. That is to say, they are limited to the elect who rebelled against God.

What if, the world was also full of pagans of which the bible makes no mention?

Where did Cain's wife come from?

"A living being" means more than someone who is alive. It means someone alive to God.

We know that tens of thousands of years ago, men were making goddess statues. These were pagans. They were nt necessarily descended from Adam. Did they evolve? The Bible doesn't necessarily say, because it is not interested in relating their story. When was the Bible ever about cavemen? Who commanded the Bible to relate their history? You?

When has God ever judged the pagans prior to Jesus Christ? You're the one making all the presumptions. You're making a big presumption that pagans were descended from Adam. Well may be they weren't. May be none of us around here are descended from Adam.

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"For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law."

 

[doseofreality]

Were you there to see it? Do you know for a fact that the continents have only moved 1- 10 cm/yr for hundreds or thousands of years? Or is that based on an ASSUMPTION? How do you know the mountains existed at that time as high as they do now from any one seeing them? How can you be sure that the earth did not change substantially since then from any type of OBSERVATION? The flood is figured to have happen about 2500 BC well within the BRONZE AGE.

I must point out that evidence about what happened in the past is always based on ASSUMPTIONS, that is what inference is.
We investigate, use observation, collect data, apply scientific method. Find a correlation or pattern and extrapolate it with the assumption that conditions stayed the same. Its our best guess as to what actually occurred based on EVIDENCE.

YOU also make ASSUMPTIONS but based on claims in the Bible which you ASSERT to be true without evidence..

Nobody knows anything for sure... the best we can do is try find the most likely theory.

 

[SarahM777]

I must point out that evidence about what happened in the past is always based on ASSUMPTIONS, that is what inference is.
We investigate, use observation, collect data, apply scientific method. Find a correlation or pattern and extrapolate it with the assumption that conditions stayed the same. Its our best guess as to what actually occurred based on EVIDENCE.

YOU also make ASSUMPTIONS but based on claims in the Bible which you ASSERT to be true without evidence..

Nobody knows anything for sure... the best we can do is try find the most likely theory.

I never said that I didn't. But I can show that countries that the Bible records have been shown to be true. I can show that Jesus existed. I can from history show many things in the Bible are HISTORICAL FACTS. The evidence for the flood is the same evidence that is used to try to prove evolution. It is the exact same evidence,it is always how people read into the evidence what is there. I can also show almost EVERY civilization has FLOOD stories that are very close to the Bible. Where did those stories come from? They didn't come from thin air. Strange almost all have art work of DRAGONS that look a lot like dinosaurs. Where did they get that art from? Wouldn't that point to the fact that they ACTUALLY saw an animal that looked like that?

ALL of the fossils that have been assembled are COMPOSITES,there are zero complete skeletons. Even "Sue" is a COMPOSITE. There is NOTHING in the ground to show that most of the bones are even from the same animal. It is why they often mess up putting them back together and end up with fossils that are actually from two or more different animals. That happens more often then not. The artist renderings of what they looked like is based on an artists imagination not based on observation.

And again the evidence at best only shows those animals lived,died,were buried and fossilized. At best all you can do is look at the evidence and it will either point you one way or the other. And that is ALWAYS based on how one chooses to look at the data.

 

[Hungry]

There is so much crazy stuff out there it makes my head spin. Jesus said seek and you will find. I've been seeking solid answers for a while now and what I have found most likely wouldn't be accepted in most mainstream churches. There is something huge in the works. The great deception is upon us. The government leaders are involved, the world religious leaders are involved, the heads of finance are involved and the law makers that meet secretly. Science has stumbled on fantastic discoveries lately and the truth is getting harder to conceal. Its good to have questions about the past but don't let it distract you from the present and the future. We will have eternity to learn the mysteries of the dinosaurs. Concern yourselves with what is going on in the news worldwide. The Vatican has had a peculiar interest in astronomy. The pope has made some comments lately about our celestial brothers. Don't be deceived. I believe the next ten years will test the faith of the elect. Jesus is coming. Pray earnestly for discernment. Seek and you will find but the truth may be stranger than fiction.

 

[Gjolll]

And again the evidence at best only shows those animals lived,died,were buried and fossilized. At best all you can do is look at the evidence and it will either point you one way or the other. And that is ALWAYS based on how one chooses to look at the data.

What you get with fossils, is fossils of sea creatures in the middle of dry land, high up mountains, and vice versa. It shows you how land has been elevated into mountains, or flooded. There's a lot going on in geology these days. It's a big science. One cannot really quarrel with fossils of sea creatures high up mountains, in mountain rocks. They show that the mountains have been formed after the creatures died. They don't show that the creatures died on the mountain. Lol!.

 

[SarahM777]

What you get with fossils, is fossils of sea creatures in the middle of dry land, high up mountains, and vice versa. It shows you how land has been elevated into mountains, or flooded. There's a lot going on in geology these days. It's a big science. One cannot really quarrel with fossils of sea creatures high up mountains, in mountain rocks. They show that the mountains have been formed after the creatures died. They don't show that the creatures died on the mountain. Lol!.

I didn't say they died on the mountain. What is said for the continental creep is that it happened over a VERY LONG time,but if you take a look at head on trains wrecks you see the same type of thing as in the mountain rages,the faster the trains are going and the more weight behind it the higher the engines will rise up,just as in the same manner as the mountain ranges. Just because the mountain ranges did come up does NOT mean it was slow process. Two land masses moving at a higher rate of speed would account for the same outcome. You can not prove one way or the other that the land masses were moving slow or fast.

The question should be how did these animals get buried fast enough to be fossilized in the first place? Many were buried ALIVE not dead. The ONLY way that can happen is by enough mud and dirt being dislodge in such a way to bury them suddenly. You can't bury LIVING creatures slowly. The only ways that enough mud and dirt can cover a very large creature IE a T-Rex fast enough is by a large hill or mountain collapsing from heavy downpours. Turn a T-Rex on it's side and in order to bury one completely you have to have at LEAST FIVE FEET OF MUD. If the bodies aren't buried fast enough they are eaten by scavengers.

 

[JaumeJ]

All of this evidence of what IS reminds me of the study of statistics. Your neighbor has four Cadillacs and you have none. Statistically you each have two Cadillacs, and that is evidence, and that is proof. Science does this also.

Our Pop tells us everything, and He tells everything in advance so we may be prepared for whatever is to come our way, and He is with us all the way as long as we have faith. Sciences cannot perform in this manner.............

 

[Gjolll]

Our Pop tells us everything, and He tells everything in advance so we may be prepared for whatever is to come our way, and He is with us all the way as long as we have faith. Sciences cannot perform in this manner.............

That's like comparing oranges and applies.

"Pop" ain't going to help you compete with the Chinese in the global economy, if you reject science. If you reject science, then you will become the slaves of China. May be the USA & UK is already heading that way.

Similarly, if you go around saying "Around 3500BC, there was this big flood that covered the whole globe to a depth of fifteen cubits, people will say 'you're mad - or show us the evidence." If you produce the bible, they'll say: "Nothing in it that says that the flood covered the whole world, and besides which, there was this big civilization in Sumer around 3000BC."

If you go around saying things that are scientifically illogical, and contrary to evidence, just because you prefer to adopt a very narrow restrictive view of what the bible text actually says, you're helping no-one believe in God, and you may yourself be acting out of sheer perversity of heart in promulgating things that no-one else can possibly accept.

 

[SarahM777]

That's like comparing oranges and applies.

"Pop" ain't going to help you compete with the Chinese in the global economy, if you reject science. If you reject science, then you will become the slaves of China. May be the USA & UK is already heading that way.

Similarly, if you go around saying "Around 3500BC, there was this big flood that covered the whole globe to a depth of fifteen cubits, people will say 'you're mad - or show us the evidence." If you produce the bible, they'll say: "Nothing in it that says that the flood covered the whole world, and besides which, there was this big civilization in Sumer around 3000BC."

If you go around saying things that are scientifically illogical, and contrary to evidence, just because you prefer to adopt a very narrow restrictive view of what the bible text actually says, you're helping no-one believe in God, and you may yourself be acting out of sheer perversity of heart in promulgating things that no-one else can possibly accept.

The records for Sumer only go back to about 2900 BC. Anything before that is once again based on an ASSUMPTION not actual fact

 

[JaumeJ]

At present I do not see anyone competing successfully with any of the countries of the Orient. (Orient means east for you politically correct folks.) I live in Spain, I keep abreast of economical and political movement and action, and no country is competing with Chinal alone, not to mention South Korea, Japan and more. China has bought the US debt. Now what do you think would happen were China to demand payment now?

Some of my fellow students and I used to discuss the fact that we were witnessing the demise of the present empire, and that was in the sixties. Everything is going along pretty much like I understand it, and understood it. My banker here was amazed when I insisted he sell off an investment package I had with them before it matured, taking the loss. A week later when the international crisis struck with force he understood there was reason behind my move. I would have lost a large hunk of my retirement, but being a financial genius I did not. OK, I am not a financial genius, I believe my Pop, and you may believe me or not, but it is believing Him that gave me cause to do the correct thing, although I sure did not know why, but I knew because I believe God, not science or mankind. Why are you in this forum if you are not one who believes God? I would not come into a science forum to tell them how ridiculous they can be, and there are a lot of loonies out there. Are not people allowed to have their own forums? You really are out of place if you do not want to hear what people are sharing about our Lord.

That's like comparing oranges and applies.

"Pop" ain't going to help you compete with the Chinese in the global economy, if you reject science. If you reject science, then you will become the slaves of China. May be the USA & UK is already heading that way.

Similarly, if you go around saying "Around 3500BC, there was this big flood that covered the whole globe to a depth of fifteen cubits, people will say 'you're mad - or show us the evidence." If you produce the bible, they'll say: "Nothing in it that says that the flood covered the whole world, and besides which, there was this big civilization in Sumer around 3000BC."

If you go around saying things that are scientifically illogical, and contrary to evidence, just because you prefer to adopt a very narrow restrictive view of what the bible text actually says, you're helping no-one believe in God, and you may yourself be acting out of sheer perversity of heart in promulgating things that no-one else can possibly accept.

 

[2Thewaters]

Dinosaurs and cavemen are part of the false theory of evolution:

if a person is led to believe in the theory of evolution, it would in his mind and heart destroy completely any confidence in the Biblical record of creation week, as detailed in the book of Genesis.

This would also effectively destroy all belief in the fall of human kind, and in God’s plan of redemption.

Thus in one master stroke the foundational historical realities which point to the reality of man’s rebellion against his Maker and his desperate need for salvation are removed so they can no longer be saved as they dont feel the need any longer.

Evolution is a system of schooling people to disqualify themselves – by making a spiritual choice – to reject the reality of the Creator and of Christ’s future eternal kingdom.

Every teacher of evolution is recognized in the spirit world, as a person of great value to lucifers kingdom, and such teachers receive a very special unction (powers) from Lucifer himself who gives them great capacity and power to induce spiritual blindness, (hypnosis) to totally convince and convert the mind.

And that’s not all; teachers of evolution are so valuable to the lucefer that in the sight of all his kingdom of darkness he assigns a special retinue of his angels to follow that educator throughout all the remainder of his/her life.

until the great controversy between he and the Creator is finished.

No cavemenn.

 

[Gjolll]

Why are you in this forum if you are not one who believes God? I would not come into a science forum to tell them how ridiculous they can be, and there are a lot of loonies out there. Are not people allowed to have their own forums? You really are out of place if you do not want to hear what people are sharing about our Lord.

It is a fallacy to set science up against God. The two co-exist quite happily. There are scientists who pretend to use science to disprove God. They will get nowhere. There are Christians who try to use the bible to disprove science. Equally, they too will get nowhere. The balance is in finding harmony between the two, which involves not straining bible passages to the point of absurdity, just as much as it involves not straining science to the point of excluding God.

Believe me when I say that creationists and those who insist on pedantic interpretations of Genesis in vogue a couple of centuries ago are doing more to harm the cause of the gospel in the secular UK than to advance it. These guys are being treated like loonies by the press. How is that helping the cause of Christ? Not an iota.

 

[Tintin]

You (and others around here) have a biblical interpretation that is not necessarily what the bible is saying.

The Bible was only ever about God's elect. It was never about pagans. Pagans are "dogs" (cf Christ).

Dogs can evolve as animals evolve. Adam and Eve were the first believers. Noah's family was a family of believers.

What happens if those God destroyed in the flood were the descendants of Adam who sinned. That is to say, they are limited to the elect who rebelled against God.

What if, the world was also full of pagans of which the bible makes no mention?

Where did Cain's wife come from?

"A living being" means more than someone who is alive. It means someone alive to God.

We know that tens of thousands of years ago, men were making goddess statues. These were pagans. They were nt necessarily descended from Adam. Did they evolve? The Bible doesn't necessarily say, because it is not interested in relating their story. When was the Bible ever about cavemen? Who commanded the Bible to relate their history? You?

When has God ever judged the pagans prior to Jesus Christ? You're the one making all the presumptions. You're making a big presumption that pagans were descended from Adam. Well may be they weren't. May be none of us around here are descended from Adam.

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Mate, you're trying to reconcile evolutionary theory with the God's Word. I've said it before, the Bible must be your gold standard by which you view the world.
Also, Cain married one of his sisters. After all, Adam and Eve were the only people, then Cain and Abel. Abel was killed by Cain. Adam and Eve gave birth, Seth. There would've been many girls born to Adam and Eve, and more, but they're not mentioned because that was the culture. I've heard this question before but it's so obvious. Back then, it was okay to marry one's sister because the world needed to be populated and the curse of sin hadn't progressed anywhere near the level it has now, so the bloodline would've been far purer.