WHY DOESN'T GOD HEAL EVERYONE?

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blue_ladybug

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What do you mean, WHERE did I seek? I sought in Him, and in the bible.

And I'm tired of asking Him, because all He seemingly gives me is silence.

Where did you seek?
 

louis

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I understand what Louis is saying. There is a verse that says a double minded man should not expect to receive anything from the Lord. And I agree we can be double minded and think we aren't. I've seen it in myself. So we know what to pray for regarding this, don't we...?
Additional confirmation why some are not healed. Very good.
 

louis

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But I was double-minded when it came to hubby being healed. I really, really wanted him back. At best, I knew God was going to have his way whether I agreed with him or not. And yet, I held my husband's hand and prayed.

You keep thinking you need to be singularly focused!

No.

You don't.

Try having faith in God's abilities rather than yours. After all, he's the healer, not you.

And, if you do not lay hands on people in prayer for healing then you're disobeying God, because he's the one who told us to do just that!

Truthfully, the outcome is always the same. God is glorified! It's a win-win situation.
If one can be double minded and believe also in Mammon, would your perspective of expecting the Lord to cure them then not deny the Word in James 1:7-8, which states not to expect any help from the Lord?

James 1:7 [FONT=&quot]For [/FONT][FONT=&quot]let not that man think that he shall receive any thing of the Lord[/FONT][FONT=&quot].[/FONT][FONT=&quot]8 A double minded man is unstable in all his ways.[/FONT]
 

BillG

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I think I said something similar to you in another thread...about how God uses what we have gone through to help us with other people

I really do 'feel' hurt for people...and that is God...not me

Thanks Bill!
Me likewise.
God still uses me to help others in our church.
And like you I feel their pain.

God works good in all things in our lives in order to conform us to the image of Jesus.
Even in our darkest days we should always cling on to that.
 
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Should he heal everyone? Well, I don't know if He should. Some people are a better testimony to Him if they're afflicted. But if He promises to heal anyone who has (or asks in) faith, then He definitely should fulfill that promise. And for some, He does. For the rest, they get to bite the bullet and persevere through any way they can.
If he promised that, he should. He hasn't, and so....

(And, at least it's perseverance, not that patience thingy. I persevere out of no choice. Patience? Suck at that!
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BillG

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If one can be double minded and believe also in Mammon, would your perspective of expecting the Lord to cure them then not deny the Word in James 1:7-8, which states not to expect any help from the Lord?

James 1:7 For let not that man think that he shall receive any thing of the Lord.8 A double minded man is unstable in all his ways.
Does that have anything to do with healing?

James 1:2-7
Profiting from Trials
2 My brethren, count it all joy when you fall into various trials, 3 knowing that the testing of your faith produces patience. 4 But let patience have its perfect work, that you may be perfect and complete, lacking nothing. 5 If any of you lacks wisdom, let him ask of God, who gives to all liberally and without reproach, and it will be given to him. 6 But let him ask in faith, with no doubting, for he who doubts is like a wave of the sea driven and tossed by the wind. 7 For let not that man suppose that he will receive anything from the Lord;
 

blue_ladybug

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Personally, I don't see any other option BUT to persevere through.
 

louis

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Yeah, but even being double-minded doesn't stop God from doing what he wills.
True, but don't expect the Lord to give you what you want if you are double minded.
We should continue to hope, and pray, and study the Word, to increase in faith and be more the Way the Lord wants us to be (singularly minded) in faith towards Him and not Mammon as well, so that we can do all the things they who are singularly faithed in Him can do.
 

BillG

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Thank you for not giving that patience passage. I hate patience. :eek:
Oh dear I think I just posted the patience passage in response to a post.

Now I'm heading for cover:eek::cool:
 

BenFTW

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Lot of interesting things being discussed. Different angles. I would like to say that for us to be frustrated with God (as I am guilty of) is to be in deception believing a lie of the enemy, in order to break fellowship with God. To be frustrated, to be angry, with God is to be in opposition to the One who holds the keys to your freedom. We only work against ourselves in alienating ourselves from the Lord. Who are we to bring a charge against the Lord? He will not be found guilty, for He is righteous.
 
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What do you mean, WHERE did I seek? I sought in Him, and in the bible.

And I'm tired of asking Him, because all He seemingly gives me is silence.
The last I heard you opened and pointed to find what to read in the Bible. That's more like slicing a deck of cards. Everyone always picks the middle somewhere, but at least in a deck of cards it's not expected to be one long story.

Seek.
-- Pick a book where it sure looks like God was just messing around with the person, (Job, Jonah, Hosea), and glean why he wasn't. Ask/pray why he wasn't. (Hard to believe I went in reading Hosea, as if why did God mess this guy's life up so bad, and walked away rejoicing. Really looked like God intended to mess up Hosea's life. Even more so than Job or Jonah.)
-- Figure out word studies and how to do one, and then do that. (A concordance with appropriate Bible version helps.)
-- Figure out how to do subject studies. (Vine's Expository is a good starting place.)
-- Do a study on God's promises, if you have to. (That's where Joni took hers. I don't get that. After all. If I'm hurting, I kind of don't particularly care to see the promise of long life, so not my style, but it worked for her.)
-- Read the Bible all the way through if you have to.

Your answer is in there. Seek means "put in the effort to find it."

Guaranteed -- God is NOT silent when reading his word. (Often annoyingly loud, actually. Did I mention I hate patience?)
 
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If one can be double minded and believe also in Mammon, would your perspective of expecting the Lord to cure them then not deny the Word in James 1:7-8, which states not to expect any help from the Lord?

James 1:7 For let not that man think that he shall receive any thing of the Lord.8 A double minded man is unstable in all his ways.
Truthfully, not a big fan of James. He seems to be the works apostle, (if there was such a title or possibility. lol) I prefer Paul.

That said, why are you stuck on mammon? Kind of like talking about how I shouldn't be robbing banks all the time. I don't. Mammon isn't my sin area either.
 
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Lot of interesting things being discussed. Different angles. I would like to say that for us to be frustrated with God (as I am guilty of) is to be in deception believing a lie of the enemy, in order to break fellowship with God. To be frustrated, to be angry, with God is to be in opposition to the One who holds the keys to your freedom. We only work against ourselves in alienating ourselves from the Lord. Who are we to bring a charge against the Lord? He will not be found guilty, for He is righteous.
Ah, man! Is that a segue into the OSAS debate? lol
 

louis

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Does that have anything to do with healing?

James 1:2-7
Profiting from Trials
2 My brethren, count it all joy when you fall into various trials, 3 knowing that the testing of your faith produces patience. 4 But let patience have its perfect work, that you may be perfect and complete, lacking nothing. 5 If any of you lacks wisdom, let him ask of God, who gives to all liberally and without reproach, and it will be given to him. 6 But let him ask in faith, with no doubting, for he who doubts is like a wave of the sea driven and tossed by the wind. 7 For let not that man suppose that he will receive anything from the Lord;
If you read my earlier posts you will see why people today are not healed as they were during the first century AD. Most Christians today, myself included are double minded, having faith both in Christ and Mammon. Rather than my repeating all the posts and scriptures I showed to support this perspective, you can simply go through the pages and find those with my name on top to review.
 

louis

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6 But let him ask in faith, with no doubting, for he who doubts is like a wave of the sea driven and tossed by the wind. 7 For let not that man suppose that he will receive anything from the Lord;
How can a double minded individual who also believes in Mammon, have complete faith in God? It is counterintuitive.
 

Stunnedbygrace

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Bug, you're being really honest. Its better than just bearing it peevishly. He's going to show you the why. Its going to give you peace. I was right where you are, very recently actually. That's how I know the amazing good headed your way.
 

louis

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James 4:1-8, further confirms why many who ask do not receive being due to their double mindedness.

James 4:1 [FONT=&quot]From whence come wars and fightings among you? come they not hence, even of your lusts that war in your members?

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[FONT=&quot]2 Ye lust, and have not: ye kill, and desire to have, and cannot obtain: ye fight and war, yet ye have not, because ye ask not.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]3 Ye ask, and receive not, because ye ask amiss, that ye may consume it upon your lusts.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]4 Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]5 Do ye think that the scripture saith in vain, The spirit that dwelleth in us lusteth to envy?[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]6 But he giveth more grace. Wherefore he saith, God resisteth the proud, but giveth grace unto the humble.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]7 Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]8 Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. Cleanse your hands, ye sinners; and purify your hearts, ye double minded.[/FONT]
 

Stunnedbygrace

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Really blessed here today. I really get strengthened when we can talk freely and openly with each other. I wish it could be all the time. Don't want to go but have to. :(
 

louis

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For those of us who are not pre tribulation raptureists, there is good news, in that we who go through the great tribulation (wether live or dead) will be made white from our current double mindedness (Daniel 11:32-35).

Daniel 11:32 [FONT=&quot]And such as do wickedly against the covenant shall he corrupt by flatteries: but the people that do know their God shall be strong, and do exploits.[/FONT][FONT=&quot]33 And they that understand among the people shall instruct many: yet they shall fall by the sword, and by flame, by captivity, and by spoil, many days.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]34 Now when they shall fall, they shall be holpen with a little help: but many shall cleave to them with flatteries.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]35 And some of them of understanding shall fall, to try them, and to purge, and to make them white, even to the time of the end: because it is yet for a time appointed.[/FONT]