Why Hell?

[Thinkerman88]

Why is there such a place for souls to go if they refuse to believe that an "omniprescent" being who makes his presence vague? Why does he make it such a challenge? If he loves us so much, why can't we all have heaven? Why do we get 60-70 years to determine forever? Wouldn't he want to destroy a terrible place such as hell and an evil angel such as Satan? He has the power.

 

[loveme1]

Why question the Almighty Yahvah God?

You see not that asking this question, answers the question you ask......



Glory to Almighty Yahvah God and Yahshua the Messiah always and forever.

 

[Thinkerman88]

No, it doesn't. Not in the least. The only way it would is if I pretended I didn't ask the question and just believed. Which seems to be the most common answer.

Why question the Almighty Yahvah God?

You see not that asking this question, answers the question you ask......



Glory to Almighty Yahvah God and Yahshua the Messiah always and forever.

 

[loveme1]

No, it doesn't. Not in the least. The only way it would is if I pretended I didn't ask the question and just believed. Which seems to be the most common answer.

22And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever: 23Therefore the LORD God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from whence he was taken. 24So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.

I stand by what I said above.

Will anyone understand my reply?


Glory to Yahvah God and Yahshua the Messiah.

 

[Thinkerman88]

I understand that he said he is going to put evil here. I'm asking why? That sounds like the opposite of love. Why are some people born, destined for hell? Why can't they have heaven too?

I stand by what I said above.

Will anyone understand my reply?


Glory to Yahvah God and Yahshua the Messiah.

 

[Philos]

Alright let's think *stick tongue out and look up*

Obvious suspects.

Hitler: Guy who wanted to regain Germany's rightful rule and glory, in the processing doing some cleaning.

Stalin: Guy who loved to sit on Gremlin's throne and as insurance paid for it by millions of slain bodies.

Dahmer: Do I even need to type?

That's enough. Let's go with those three. The heart Hitler had doing that cleaning, He'll have in heaven, so will we make him our official ethnic janitor? Stalin will have the same heart too, I wouldn't want to sell anything to him. Dahmer... probably would not want to hang out with him either. 3 men that society today call evil to the core. How can evil, like that, exist in Paradise, while it still remaining in the state of Paradise? We just got into 3 souls, what about the remaining hundreds of billions of souls, a vast majority of them without a new heart? Those who raped, those who molested kids, those who stole, those who killed, those who killed to steal, those who killed to steal a rape on a kid, and so on and so on. We got liars who can't be trusted, we got greedy and envious people who will just take advantage of you. We got sailor mouths who only want to look after their self. How can these exist in a Heaven, and it still be a Heaven?

You know why Paradise is a Paradise? Because the heart of every soul in that Paradise will be walking perfectly in one thing: Loving your neighbor as yourself. Heck, they'll love their neighbor even more than themselves. That's actually the Law and the Prophets according to the Lord, that is really the core of the Will of God. That is the expectation, requirement, standard, whatever you wanna call it to get in there. Notice though, they don't just love from their deeds and words, but from their hearts. No evil against another can be conceived in them.

That is the image His own is being conformed to so that Heaven will still be a Heaven, New Earth will be an Earth fitting for the eternal presence of the God of Majesty, and Paradise will be as sweet as it sounds. Not everyone wants that, though. You know why? That love requires sacrifices that rarely anyone, not even Christians, are willing to make. If you don't want that, you don't want paradise.

Of course there is also the God that will be there, who's presence will be as real as you can get every single time for everyone there. They'll be a lot of love, God to His people, His people to God, His people to each other, angels to rocks to plants to people to you get my point. So if you don't want God, you don't want paradise.

So where else can someone go when they don't want that heart, nor do they want God? The only place that is described to being from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of His power.

Why Hell? Because people wanna go there Mr. Thinker.

 

[djness]

Alright let's think *stick tongue out and look up*

Obvious suspects.

Hitler: Guy who wanted to regain Germany's rightful rule and glory, in the processing doing some cleaning.

Stalin: Guy who loved to sit on Gremlin's throne and as insurance paid for it by millions of slain bodies.

Dahmer: Do I even need to type?

That's enough. Let's go with those three. The heart Hitler had doing that cleaning, He'll have in heaven, so will we make him our official ethnic janitor? Stalin will have the same heart too, I wouldn't want to sell anything to him. Dahmer... probably would not want to hang out with him either. 3 men that society today call evil to the core. How can evil, like that, exist in Paradise, while it still remaining in the state of Paradise? We just got into 3 souls, what about the remaining hundreds of billions of souls, a vast majority of them without a new heart? Those who raped, those who molested kids, those who stole, those who killed, those who killed to steal, those who killed to steal a rape on a kid, and so on and so on. We got liars who can't be trusted, we got greedy and envious people who will just take advantage of you. We got sailor mouths who only want to look after their self. How can these exist in a Heaven, and it still be a Heaven?

You know why Paradise is a Paradise? Because the heart of every soul in that Paradise will be walking perfectly in one thing: Loving your neighbor as yourself. Heck, they'll love their neighbor even more than themselves. That's actually the Law and the Prophets according to the Lord, that is really the core of the Will of God. That is the expectation, requirement, standard, whatever you wanna call it to get in there. Notice though, they don't just love from their deeds and words, but from their hearts. No evil against another can be conceived in them.

That is the image His own is being conformed to so that Heaven will still be a Heaven, New Earth will be an Earth fitting for the eternal presence of the God of Majesty, and Paradise will be as sweet as it sounds. Not everyone wants that, though. You know why? That love requires sacrifices that rarely anyone, not even Christians, are willing to make. If you don't want that, you don't want paradise.

Of course there is also the God that will be there, who's presence will be as real as you can get every single time for everyone there. They'll be a lot of love, God to His people, His people to God, His people to each other, angels to rocks to plants to people to you get my point. So if you don't want God, you don't want paradise.

So where else can someone go when they don't want that heart, nor do they want God? The only place that is described to being from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of His power.

Why Hell? Because people wanna go there Mr. Thinker.

Nobody wants to go to hell, nobody lives their life thinking that eternal torment sounds like a great ending to it all. There isn't going to be a single person in hell that says ''wow, I'm glad I finally made it here.''

If you look at most any example of hell given in the bible the people there are either totally suprised that they aren't going to heaven or they want others to be warned about it.

It is pure fantasy to think anyone wants to be there.

 

[loveme1]

I understand that he said he is going to put evil here. I'm asking why? That sounds like the opposite of love. Why are some people born, destined for hell? Why can't they have heaven too?

Consider this:

24Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field: 25But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way. 26But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also. 27So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares? 28He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up? 29But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them. 30Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.

31Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is like to a grain of mustard seed, which a man took, and sowed in his field: 32Which indeed is the least of all seeds: but when it is grown, it is the greatest among herbs, and becometh a tree, so that the birds of the air come and lodge in the branches thereof.

33Another parable spake he unto them; The kingdom of heaven is like unto leaven, which a woman took, and hid in three measures of meal, till the whole was leavened.

34All these things spake Jesus unto the multitude in parables; and without a parable spake he not unto them:

35That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, saying, I will open my mouth in parables; I will utter things which have been kept secret from the foundation of the world.

36Then Jesus sent the multitude away, and went into the house: and his disciples came unto him, saying, Declare unto us the parable of the tares of the field. 37He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man; 38The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one; 39The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels. 40As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world. 41The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; 42And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth. 43Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.

44Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto treasure hid in a field; the which when a man hath found, he hideth, and for joy thereof goeth and selleth all that he hath, and buyeth that field

 

[Thinkerman88]

You're missing the point. Why even allow evil? If god loves us, he wouldn't allow any of that. But he did. He let them do the things they did. So their victims came here with the sole destiny of suffering. Granted, they probably get to go to heaven according to you. But what's the point in even putting them here if it's just to suffer. That's just awful. If I were god, I wouldn't allow evil. I wouldn't create people just to test their faith in me for a few decades with the gamble of eternal suffering. Becaue I love. I wouldn't give the option of eternal suffering because had the aforementioned evil men not been evil the world would be a better place. But it's not. Explain that. You guys are missing the point. It's messed up to even allow evil or eternal suffering. There are people who exist in other countries who never hear "god's word" and they die. What about them? Why do people get mentally challenged children or stillborns? To test faith? So he killed a baby or gave someone a miserable existence to teach them to keep their head up because when they die if they believe it'll get better? How can you get behind that? That sounds evil. Think of the family who has to raise the mentally challenged kid. Yes, they have a child and they will love him and raise him. But, that's a terrible burden to put on people. Why would god let a rebel angel tamper with his world instead of destroy him as he should have? Allowance of evil is evil itself.

Alright let's think *stick tongue out and look up*

Obvious suspects.

Hitler: Guy who wanted to regain Germany's rightful rule and glory, in the processing doing some cleaning.

Stalin: Guy who loved to sit on Gremlin's throne and as insurance paid for it by millions of slain bodies.

Dahmer: Do I even need to type?

That's enough. Let's go with those three. The heart Hitler had doing that cleaning, He'll have in heaven, so will we make him our official ethnic janitor? Stalin will have the same heart too, I wouldn't want to sell anything to him. Dahmer... probably would not want to hang out with him either. 3 men that society today call evil to the core. How can evil, like that, exist in Paradise, while it still remaining in the state of Paradise? We just got into 3 souls, what about the remaining hundreds of billions of souls, a vast majority of them without a new heart? Those who raped, those who molested kids, those who stole, those who killed, those who killed to steal, those who killed to steal a rape on a kid, and so on and so on. We got liars who can't be trusted, we got greedy and envious people who will just take advantage of you. We got sailor mouths who only want to look after their self. How can these exist in a Heaven, and it still be a Heaven?

You know why Paradise is a Paradise? Because the heart of every soul in that Paradise will be walking perfectly in one thing: Loving your neighbor as yourself. Heck, they'll love their neighbor even more than themselves. That's actually the Law and the Prophets according to the Lord, that is really the core of the Will of God. That is the expectation, requirement, standard, whatever you wanna call it to get in there. Notice though, they don't just love from their deeds and words, but from their hearts. No evil against another can be conceived in them.

That is the image His own is being conformed to so that Heaven will still be a Heaven, New Earth will be an Earth fitting for the eternal presence of the God of Majesty, and Paradise will be as sweet as it sounds. Not everyone wants that, though. You know why? That love requires sacrifices that rarely anyone, not even Christians, are willing to make. If you don't want that, you don't want paradise.

Of course there is also the God that will be there, who's presence will be as real as you can get every single time for everyone there. They'll be a lot of love, God to His people, His people to God, His people to each other, angels to rocks to plants to people to you get my point. So if you don't want God, you don't want paradise.

So where else can someone go when they don't want that heart, nor do they want God? The only place that is described to being from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of His power.

Why Hell? Because people wanna go there Mr. Thinker.

 

[feedm3]

Why is there such a place for souls to go if they refuse to believe that an "omniprescent" being who makes his presence vague?

He's not vague, hes all around us. By creation I understand something made everything. I see order, complexity, and I know man cannot do this.

Yet by creation I know there is a more powerful intelligence, and able to create what I see, yet I have to decide, who it is?

There are many religions, which is right? Many books, which are inspired? I have a brain, capable of reasoning. I can read, I can comprehend. I look at all the religions, all the books, and choose which has a message that is logical, and one that has the power to effect me as an individual. There are many reasons why I see the Bible as being this book. Yet I could not name them all here and now. That is another study.

Yet the creator is not vague: there is much evidence:

Psa 19:1 The heavens declare the glory of God;
and the firmament sheweth his handywork

Rom 1:18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness; 19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them. 20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: 21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. 22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, 23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things

Why does he make it such a challenge? If he loves us so much, why can't we all have heaven?

He already created once beings who inhabited heaven. Yet they proved they were not worthy of heaven, proving they did not love HIM in return:

Jude 3: And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day

He wants those who will love him in return, Those who will put Him above their own desires, and He wants to reward those who choose to do this.

Jn 14:15 if ye love me, keep my commands.

He does not want any to perish, yet that will not stop his punishment of those who refuse Him. Because he sent His son to die for them, and they chose not to count it as anything, and chose themselves over him, they will be worthy of His wrath. - II PEt 3:10

Yet to create us and place us in heaven, is not practical. Becuae how many do not really love Him? How many reject him because the message of scripture teaches us we must changes things we may not want to?
These were to be placed in heaven, then how many would be there that did not love him? What would keep them from repeating the same mistakes the angels made?

Yet those who choose him over themselves, learn control, and to hate sin, then in heaven, they will know what it took to get there. They will appreciate it, and never leave their 2nd "habitation", because our "first habitation" is not like the angels, our first one is here on earth, with pain, sorrow, and death.

It's like a rich kid born into a mansion. He does not appreciate it, nor the people who made it possible. But give the mansion to a poor person, he will cherish it, and more the person who gave it to him.

Why do we get 60-70 years to determine forever?

Because God is Eternal. He is an Eternal being, his reward is eternal, likewise his punishment, though many here believe it is not eternal punishment. Of course they have no problem with heaven being eternal - lol

Wouldn't he want to destroy a terrible place such as hell and an evil angel such as Satan? He has the power.

Because he created hell for Satan and his angels - Matt 25:

No only Satan, but his angels, and hIS CHILDREN - Jn 8:44

As for Satan, he will be destroyed, yet for now, he serves a purpose - to separate the wicked from the righteous. And he is doing a good job. Without evil, there is no good.

We did not have a choice to be born, and many may not like this. Yet God has shown his love already, and has warned us. He has given us evidence, and his word to explain that evidence as well as what we must do to avoid his wrath. SO we are without excuse:

Jn 12:48 He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day

 

[Thinkerman88]

Nice use of scripture. But, you can't deny that those religions have the same fables with different names and they existed before the men who wrote the bible. It's an ugly, ugly fact for christians. Most people say that the devil put them there to test us, which means he had better foresight than god. <-silly My point is, why does evil exist? If he were so obvious no one would question. That's why everyone does. Because you have to BELIEVE it's all made by him. It's an easy out to say that an all powerful, all knowing being created everything. Then you don't have to answer any other questions. You can just say "god did it". He revamped heaven after 1 ANGEL! Why is he letting billions mess it up for ages? If he created us, then that means he also created the question inside us all of his existence. He could have wired us to not question, which would be ideal to him according to my understanding of the christian bible. The real question is why? He is ALL knowing. The bible says that, am I wrong? Then that would mean he already knows how it will all go, correct? So in essence, he created us to watch. If I go to hell, he knew that when he created me. Because he's all knowing. So he created beings with the predestiny to suffer. That's my issue. That's what everything about christian god and his teachings points to. He created us to choose. But he's all knowing. I apologize for seeming crude, but that's an elaborate way of saying we're his live action reality show. I refuse to believe an all powerful being would create people with the path to hell if he loved them. When you see someone doing wrong and you allow it, we are taught that it is just as bad as the act performed. Unless you're god, apparently he's exempt? No, evil is an imbalance. Without evil, all would be well, but evil tips the scale. It doesn't level it. I know he created hell for the devil, but why have hell? Why not just destroy the evil? That part doesn't make sense.

 

[feedm3]

Nice use of scripture. But, you can't deny that those religions have the same fables with different names and they existed before the men who wrote the bible. It's an ugly, ugly fact for christians. Most people say that the devil put them there to test us, which means he had better foresight than god. <-silly My point is, why does evil exist? If he were so obvious no one would question. That's why everyone does. Because you have to BELIEVE it's all made by him. It's an easy out to say that an all powerful, all knowing being created everything. Then you don't have to answer any other questions. You can just say "god did it". He revamped heaven after 1 ANGEL! Why is he letting billions mess it up for ages? If he created us, then that means he also created the question inside us all of his existence. He could have wired us to not question, which would be ideal to him according to my understanding of the christian bible. The real question is why? He is ALL knowing. The bible says that, am I wrong? Then that would mean he already knows how it will all go, correct? So in essence, he created us to watch. If I go to hell, he knew that when he created me. Because he's all knowing. So he created beings with the predestiny to suffer. That's my issue. That's what everything about christian god and his teachings points to. He created us to choose. But he's all knowing. I apologize for seeming crude, but that's an elaborate way of saying we're his live action reality show. I refuse to believe an all powerful being would create people with the path to hell if he loved them. When you see someone doing wrong and you allow it, we are taught that it is just as bad as the act performed. Unless you're god, apparently he's exempt? No, evil is an imbalance. Without evil, all would be well, but evil tips the scale. It doesn't level it. I know he created hell for the devil, but why have hell? Why not just destroy the evil? That part doesn't make sense.

Well, dont think it would have been just to create us and put us in hell, and we hve no idea why. If hell is your problem, then dont know what to tell ya.

That is how he decided to it. I see how many feel their is no love, because many so called Christians choose just not to believe in hell. Yet I stick with what the Bible says, and know I can avoid it. I can see God's love, those who will be punished will be punished, I hope I am not one of them. Yet I am not going to base the evidence I have found, and instruction I have been given, just because I dont like hell, because I understand what I dont like wont change anything.

All I can say is study both sides, read with the fault finding glassing off, or dont. Like you said we have choice.

 

[shininglight]

The fact is...there is a hell whether we like it are not. There is evil whether we like it or not. It is so easy to avoid hell, just believe and trust in Jesus Christ. God couldn't have made it any easier for us to be saved.

Instead of always asking why this or why that....I choose to just accept that these things exist and then I try and figure out what it is I need to do to make the best of it.

We cant always lean on our own understanding.

Pro 3:5 Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.

 

[Thinkerman88]

We can't lean on our own understanding? Are you serious? If I don't understand, why would I want to believe. So I should just not question and believe? Hahaha, you guys really, really need help. I'm out of here. You guys are fine with being ignorant and just assuming. It's sad. You're all slaves. God strike me down now if you're there. See you guys, I'll be waiting lol.

The fact is...there is a hell whether we like it are not. There is evil whether we like it or not. It is so easy to avoid hell, just believe and trust in Jesus Christ. God couldn't have made it any easier for us to be saved.

Instead of always asking why this or why that....I choose to just accept that these things exist and then I try and figure out what it is I need to do to make the best of it.

We cant always lean on our own understanding.

Pro 3:5 Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.

 

[shininglight]

We can't lean on our own understanding? Are you serious? If I don't understand, why would I want to believe. So I should just not question and believe? Hahaha, you guys really, really need help. I'm out of here. You guys are fine with being ignorant and just assuming. It's sad. You're all slaves. God strike me down now if you're there. See you guys, I'll be waiting lol.

Questioning is why I am a Christian. When I take a close hard look around me and within me, and I take everything into consideration, I am convinced that God is real and the Bible is real. Being a Christian in todays world pretty much makes you a rebel. You have to swim against the tide. You have to go against everything society tries to tell you. You have to "question". Your problem is that you question God and that makes you a fool....period. Its ok to think and to question, just don't think you know better than God.

 

[Philos]

You're missing the point. Why even allow evil? If god loves us, he wouldn't allow any of that. But he did. He let them do the things they did. So their victims came here with the sole destiny of suffering. Granted, they probably get to go to heaven according to you. But what's the point in even putting them here if it's just to suffer. That's just awful. If I were god, I wouldn't allow evil. I wouldn't create people just to test their faith in me for a few decades with the gamble of eternal suffering. Becaue I love. I wouldn't give the option of eternal suffering because had the aforementioned evil men not been evil the world would be a better place. But it's not. Explain that. You guys are missing the point. It's messed up to even allow evil or eternal suffering. There are people who exist in other countries who never hear "god's word" and they die. What about them? Why do people get mentally challenged children or stillborns? To test faith? So he killed a baby or gave someone a miserable existence to teach them to keep their head up because when they die if they believe it'll get better? How can you get behind that? That sounds evil. Think of the family who has to raise the mentally challenged kid. Yes, they have a child and they will love him and raise him. But, that's a terrible burden to put on people. Why would god let a rebel angel tamper with his world instead of destroy him as he should have? Allowance of evil is evil itself.

That is a good question. Why does God continues to allow evil to exist on this Earth if it does nothing but damage it? Why does He let you to continue breathing and living and give you so much mercy with the sun and rain and pleasant and bearable environment while you conceive every imaginable evil in your heart, and some of that evil escape unto others? Why would He allow you to do all the damage you have done against others, even walking in the same type of heart those 3 men had? You can't say you haven't, can you? He's loving, right? So by His love, He ought to destroy you, shouldn't He? So why doesn't He smite you so the world can be one-less-human better?

But didn't you also say that God, by his love, should give heaven to everyone? So which one is it? Does He, by His love, destroy people for their evil? Or does He, by His love, let everyone into heaven? You can't have both. You also can't say you deserve heaven when another deserves to be destroyed, when you are no better than them.

Do you know why? Because He loves. It ain't your love, your love sucks lol. It just does, every conceived human love falls short, it just does. His doesn't. You will not get into heaven with a bad heart, you just won't. But by the logic you posted, the person with the bad heart gotta be destroyed, because a bad heart is an evil heart, and an evil heart has evil things from it. Why do you think you're still alive m8? Why is every evil person still alive?

To repent. To turn from that evil and receive His grace and a new heart that only He gives. By this new heart, Heaven can still be heaven yet they can still live there. Most won't, and if they won't they will be destroyed because no evil will be allowed. He never intended for evil in this creation, so He'll cast it out of His creation away from His presence and power. That place, we call Hell.

You know, you can repent right now, nothing's stopping ya

 

[loveme1]

We can't lean on our own understanding? Are you serious? If I don't understand, why would I want to believe. So I should just not question and believe? Hahaha, you guys really, really need help. I'm out of here. You guys are fine with being ignorant and just assuming. It's sad. You're all slaves. God strike me down now if you're there. See you guys, I'll be waiting lol.

And he continues to answer his own question and does not even know it.



May Yahvah God have mercy on him.

 

[gotime]

Satan insinuated that God only loves himself and that His rules are only there to enslave everyone. In other words Satan is saying that we have no free choice.

If God had destroyed Satan then Satan's claims would be shown to be right. however God allowed Satan to chose to do evil and cause problems because love does not force. love wants love back but its only real love if it is given by choice.

The other reason that God allowed evil even to this day is so that everyone will truly understand what sin does and where it leads. This guarantees that he will never have to allow evil again. because this earth and Satan has shown where sin takes us. Never again will anyone be able to question if God is love. History will record the unselfish love of God in Jesus Christ.

This is not just a lesson for us it is a lesson for the angels and the un-fallen worlds out there.

God is love. hell is not what you think. Its not good but its not what many think. I will later when I have a chance show this using the bible.

Blessings.

 

[enochson]

Why is there such a place for souls to go if they refuse to believe that an "omniprescent" being who makes his presence vague? Why does he make it such a challenge? If he loves us so much, why can't we all have heaven? Why do we get 60-70 years to determine forever? Wouldn't he want to destroy a terrible place such as hell and an evil angel such as Satan? He has the power.

Your spot on and right. IT'S A SICK DOCTRINE OF THE SICK MIND OF MAN. Hell is a miss translation of the words use it the bible. THE OH YOU BETTER WHORSHIP ME OR I DO YOU FOREVER IS AND INSULT TO GOD'S NATURE. they will come and quote vers backing there doctrine but if the foundation is wrong there quotes are wrong.

 

[loveme1]

Your spot on and right. IT'S A SICK DOCTRINE OF THE SICK MIND OF MAN. Hell is a miss translation of the words use it the bible. THE OH YOU BETTER WHORSHIP ME OR I DO YOU FOREVER IS AND INSULT TO GOD'S NATURE. they will come and quote vers backing there doctrine but if the foundation is wrong there quotes are wrong.

Matthew 13

40As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world. 41The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; 42And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth. 43Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear