I would say that all born again Christians observe the Sabbath rest. Some through adhering lawfully to a day, and some through adhering to the rest through grace we have found in Christ. It does seem that those who observe it lawfully do so believing those of us who don't are wrong, as if we were breaking a commandment. Why pretend we should be quiet about this? Besides, this is a discussion forum. If your attitude is such that you only want to speak to people who agree with you, then this may not be the place for you.
Why I keep the Sabbath FYI.
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While we do not have a direct statement in Scripture we can, by balancing Scripture be sure that God did in fact tell them how they were to receive atonement and remission of sins.
We see Abel, as JL states, bring a sacrifice (implied in "and the fat thereof"), just as we see Noah, Abraham, and Job offer up sacrifice. This is simply the Old Testament provision for remission of sins and atonement for sin that was provided until that which was better came. That is the sacrifice of Christ. In every Age sacrifice for sin has an offering, and it always involves death. The provision of the Old Testament is as stark a contrast to the Sacrifice of Christ and the remission of sins it brings (complete) as the physical life manna provided is to eternal life bestowed through the True Bread of Heaven, that is...Christ.
God told them, lol, though He did not "tell us" in a direct statement. But the principle is still there.
God bless.
We see Abel, as JL states, bring a sacrifice (implied in "and the fat thereof"), just as we see Noah, Abraham, and Job offer up sacrifice. This is simply the Old Testament provision for remission of sins and atonement for sin that was provided until that which was better came. That is the sacrifice of Christ. In every Age sacrifice for sin has an offering, and it always involves death. The provision of the Old Testament is as stark a contrast to the Sacrifice of Christ and the remission of sins it brings (complete) as the physical life manna provided is to eternal life bestowed through the True Bread of Heaven, that is...Christ.
God told them, lol, though He did not "tell us" in a direct statement. But the principle is still there.
God bless.
I stand by my statement. The text does not say anything to the effect that God told them to sacrifice anything to pay for their sin. God covered their sin. Period. Scripture says: The LORD God made garments of skin for Adam and his wife and clothed them. It does not say God told them to do it at all, and it is wrong, plain and simple, to say He did.
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Old Testament Sacrifice did not pay for sin.
Only Christ did that.
Those who do end up receiving the wages of sin will in fact pay for it in eternal separation from God, which is the ultimate form of separation which death is a picture of.
When God covered their sin do you think He just created the skins of animals? Or did an animal/s die for that temporary covering which in no way restored the life they lost?
God bless.
Only Christ did that.
Those who do end up receiving the wages of sin will in fact pay for it in eternal separation from God, which is the ultimate form of separation which death is a picture of.
When God covered their sin do you think He just created the skins of animals? Or did an animal/s die for that temporary covering which in no way restored the life they lost?
God bless.
Then why did Abel offer a sacrifice of a lamb and Cain offer up fruit and vegetables? Did Abel need more clothing? Really just asking a question. God did let them know about the sacrifice that was to come and I am sure explained why a lamb had to die even if He did use the skins as clothing that the lamb was used in atonement for their sins.... Verses explaining a sacrifice...or a way out for them...
Genesis 3:~15And I will put enmity Between you and the woman, And between your seed and her seed; He shall bruise you on the head, And you shall bruise him on the heel."
God's way of telling them that satan would bruise Jesus heel, but that Jesus would wipe out satan....letting them know there was a way out of this sin through Jesus.
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Genesis 3:~15And I will put enmity Between you and the woman, And between your seed and her seed; He shall bruise you on the head, And you shall bruise him on the heel."
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No, I am simply pointing out a very basic Bible Principle.
So answer the question: did an animal or animals die in order for their sin to be covered?
Genesis 3:21
King James Version (KJV)
[SUP]21 [/SUP]Unto Adam also and to his wife did the Lord God make coats of skins, and clothed them.
Or did He simply create them out of thin air?
God bless.
So answer the question: did an animal or animals die in order for their sin to be covered?
Genesis 3:21
King James Version (KJV)
[SUP]21 [/SUP]Unto Adam also and to his wife did the Lord God make coats of skins, and clothed them.
Or did He simply create them out of thin air?
God bless.
The point is, God did not tell them that they had to sacrifice a lamb to pay for their sin. Do you agree with God's Word or not? Here is exactly what you said: We humans have a hard time seeing the truth and acting out in faith when God tells us to do something....Like telling Adam and Eve they would have to sacrifice a lamb to pay for their sin. God said no such thing. God provided the sacrifice that covered their sin, just as He provided the ram instead of allowing Abe to sacrifice his son, and those events did point forward to Christ, but does not change the fact that Scripture did not say what you said it did.
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So you are suggesting that Adam and Eve were the exception to everyone else in history?
They were excluded, in the lives they led after they were excluded from the Garden, from having a directive in regards to sacrifice for sins?
Where do you suppose Abel learned this from? God went to Abel, and secretly provided the means by which he could offer up an acceptable offering, and that this was not something...his parents were privy to? Or Cain?
God bless.
They were excluded, in the lives they led after they were excluded from the Garden, from having a directive in regards to sacrifice for sins?
Where do you suppose Abel learned this from? God went to Abel, and secretly provided the means by which he could offer up an acceptable offering, and that this was not something...his parents were privy to? Or Cain?
God bless.
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Actually, it is the beginning of the story, and we see in every age which follows men offering up sacrifice for atonement.
When God "provided Himself an offering" in Abraham's case, we see an animal die.
When God provided Himself an offering on the Cross...we see the fulfillment of what those Old Testament "coverings" for sin represented.
And besides, I like the way the KJV states it better.
God bless.
When God "provided Himself an offering" in Abraham's case, we see an animal die.
When God provided Himself an offering on the Cross...we see the fulfillment of what those Old Testament "coverings" for sin represented.
And besides, I like the way the KJV states it better.
God bless.
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It's not a matter of pride, lol, it is a matter that God has from the beginning provided provision for men. Again, we do not have a direct record of God commanding Adam and Eve to offer up sacrifice, but we see the general principle that the wages of sin is death, and that in every Age we see the shedding of blood as the means of remission. And without the shedding of blood there is no remission.
So I see you being semantic, not articulate, and your conclusion stands in opposition to a very basic, and fundamental truth in Scripture.
Now answer the question, did an animal or animals die to cover Adam and Eve's sin or do you think that God created clothes out of thin air?
God bless.
So I see you being semantic, not articulate, and your conclusion stands in opposition to a very basic, and fundamental truth in Scripture.
Now answer the question, did an animal or animals die to cover Adam and Eve's sin or do you think that God created clothes out of thin air?
God bless.
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Whereas I suggest that God provided the provision for remission of sins and atonement, that doesn't change the fact that the Law demanded what kind of sacrifice one was to bring, which commanded a sacrifice that was not chosen from the least of the available choices, but was to be the best. They chose the sacrifice they would bring, just as Cain chose what he would bring. Cain's offering was rejected, and understanding why Cain's offering was rejected in light of the overview of Scripture helps those who don't understand why Cain's offering was rejected understand it a little better.
Some feel that God was unfair to Cain, after all, Cain worked hard and brought his best to God, right? But if we understand that God has always provided the same provision, that is, vicarious death which is provided for the sake of man, that the penalty for sin not be exacted at the time of the sin, it helps clarify something that poses consternation for a great many.
God bless.
Some feel that God was unfair to Cain, after all, Cain worked hard and brought his best to God, right? But if we understand that God has always provided the same provision, that is, vicarious death which is provided for the sake of man, that the penalty for sin not be exacted at the time of the sin, it helps clarify something that poses consternation for a great many.
God bless.