Why I keep the Sabbath FYI.
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You see, as soon as I became a christian I was conscious of my sin before God, for his laws had been placed in my most inward parts.
I didn't have to read the literal words of the ot to have conviction of sin, i now had heartfelt conviction of my sin. That is of course in line with the terms of the new covenant
And yet, some seem to rely on the literal letter to know what sin is, that puzzles me
I didn't have to read the literal words of the ot to have conviction of sin, i now had heartfelt conviction of my sin. That is of course in line with the terms of the new covenant
And yet, some seem to rely on the literal letter to know what sin is, that puzzles me
L
Jesus didn't gather firewood. He healed a man as shown in both examples brought up. That is no natural work.
John 14:10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.
John 3:1 There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews:
John 3:2 The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him.
Nicodemus even acknowledged this.
Works throughout the scriptures have different applications.
Gathering sticks would have been a natural work.
John 14:10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.
John 3:1 There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews:
John 3:2 The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him.
Nicodemus even acknowledged this.
Works throughout the scriptures have different applications.
Gathering sticks would have been a natural work.
K
If truth matters to you, please do some research before saying Jesus broke any of the Father's commandments at all. If in fact Jesus did break the Sabbath or any other commandment, He could not possibly be the sacrifice for our sin, He would need a Savior Himself.
So, again I say, Jesus did not break even the least commandment!
So, again I say, Jesus did not break even the least commandment!
In 1 Pet 1:19 Jesus is referred to as a “a lamb without blemish or defect.” In 1 Pet 2:22 Peter applies the prophet Isaiah’s words to Jesus: “He committed no sin, and no deceit was found in his mouth.” In 1 John 3:5 John proclaims about Jesus that “in him is no sin.” In 2 Cor 5:21 Paul reminds us, about Jesus, that “God made him who had no sin to be sin for us.” In Heb 4:15 the writer explains that in Jesus “we do not have a high priest who is unable to empathize with our weaknesses, but we have one who has been tempted in every way, just as we are—yet he did not sin.” -
In Mark 14:55 we read, “The chief priests and the whole Sanhedrin were looking for evidence against Jesus so that they could put him to death, but they did not find any.” In Mark 12:14 the Pharisees and Herodians said to Jesus, “Teacher, we know that you are a man of integrity. You aren’t swayed by others, because you pay no attention to who they are; but you teach the way of God in accordance with the truth.” In Luke 23:22 Pilate asked, “What crime has this man committed? I have found in him no grounds for the death penalty.”
In Mark 14:55 we read, “The chief priests and the whole Sanhedrin were looking for evidence against Jesus so that they could put him to death, but they did not find any.” In Mark 12:14 the Pharisees and Herodians said to Jesus, “Teacher, we know that you are a man of integrity. You aren’t swayed by others, because you pay no attention to who they are; but you teach the way of God in accordance with the truth.” In Luke 23:22 Pilate asked, “What crime has this man committed? I have found in him no grounds for the death penalty.”
L
In the case of Jesus telling the man to take up his bed and walk, Jesus also confronted the Pharisees on another Sabbath day saying:
Luke 14:5 And answered them, saying, Which of you shall have an ass or an ox fallen into a pit, and will not straightway pull him out on the Sabbath day?
It wasn't the Sabbath that was the issue. It was their idea of what righteousness in keeping it and mercy entails. It's an absolute picture of His mercy toward us.
[video=youtube;kQz7KKdEbUg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQz7KKdEbUg[/video]
Luke 14:5 And answered them, saying, Which of you shall have an ass or an ox fallen into a pit, and will not straightway pull him out on the Sabbath day?
It wasn't the Sabbath that was the issue. It was their idea of what righteousness in keeping it and mercy entails. It's an absolute picture of His mercy toward us.
[video=youtube;kQz7KKdEbUg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQz7KKdEbUg[/video]
K
I believe you are right. It's vital that we look at the context..not just grab a verse here and there, if we truly want to know what's being said.
Also, gotta laugh a bit as to possible conclusions that are being drawn about the "bed" that the healed man was told to carry. Was it a Craftmatic? A Serta, a Simmons, or a Beautyrest? LOL, no!
Also, gotta laugh a bit as to possible conclusions that are being drawn about the "bed" that the healed man was told to carry. Was it a Craftmatic? A Serta, a Simmons, or a Beautyrest? LOL, no!
Karraster, in John 5:18 we read, "This was why the Jews were seeking all the more to kill [Jesus], because not only was he breaking the Sabbath, but he was even calling God his own Father, making himself equal with God."
Had this involved a Jewish tradition, John would have said so. The Holy Spirit inspired John to write as he did, and the fact that he adds "even calling God his own Father, making himself equal with God" adds weight to what John says about his breaking the Sabbath. He is certainly equal with God and he certainly broke the Sabbath.
Perhaps we could look at the syntax of the Greek to get a clearer picture (though it looks pretty clear to me already) of what's being said here. How did your study of the original text bring you to your view?
Had this involved a Jewish tradition, John would have said so. The Holy Spirit inspired John to write as he did, and the fact that he adds "even calling God his own Father, making himself equal with God" adds weight to what John says about his breaking the Sabbath. He is certainly equal with God and he certainly broke the Sabbath.
Perhaps we could look at the syntax of the Greek to get a clearer picture (though it looks pretty clear to me already) of what's being said here. How did your study of the original text bring you to your view?
It's not really what you consider to be work, Matt. It is the law that forbids carrying things, however long they have been slept on and however necessary they may be for preparing meals or keeping warm. I was making a comparison between what happened in the OT under the law and what Jesus did in the New, on the Sabbath.
Then Jesus sinned and was not a perfect sacrifice for our sins.