Why would a Christian wear a Prayer Shawl?

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Reformyourself

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Sorry but They wouldn’t!

Or have a prayer chair, handkerchief etc.etc.etc.

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#82
The tzitzit was for all Jewish men, not only teachers. But Yeshua was indeed a teacher. There isn't any serious doubt about that.
The ethnic and national heritage of the one we call Lord is the general historical and cultural context of the Gospel narrative.

If you don't have an interest in that aspect of the Biblical setting that's fine. To me it's very interesting.
I would offer I think something of interest . . .

Many say in respect to the 1 Corinthians 11 portion that hair is not to be covered like with a burlap sackcloth but is the covering and needs no other.

Nature teaches us in most cases the hair is the glory of the female. . .so they say don't cover it.

But when looking at another ceremonial law that speak of the chaste virgin bride of Christ the church . Men could take a temporal vow of a Nazarene that spoke of the chaste virgin bride of Christ the church, Paul was under that vow as it seem Jesus was.

Like all things the father of lies looks to make it about to include the new testament ceremonial law. . making it without effect. We can see him pictured in all his false glory in Revelation mocking the Nazarene tradition as well as the one found in 1 Corihtinans 11.

The god of unisex TGBTG . that preach the kingdom is here lie. . no need to multiply just die off. . They are words of the serial Killer a murderer from the beginning.

Again coming in full false glory.

Revelation 9:7-9 King James Version (KJV)And the shapes of the locusts were like unto horses prepared unto battle; and on their heads were as it were crowns like gold, and their faces were as the faces of men. And they had hair as the hair of women, and their teeth were as the teeth of lions. And they had breastplates, as it were breastplates of iron; and the sound of their wings was as the sound of chariots of many horses running to battle.

Burlap hair covering could make a great sales item They come in blue. with a detachable mask to hide the glory of viruses.
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Blik

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#83
If you see it as a cloth it is not a prayer shawl. If you ware it as a cloth you would contaminate the shawl.

A Prayer shawl is blessed by the Lord and to be put on as a meeting place with Him. This site it speaking of God's ways and how we can live for Him, not about clothing.
 
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If you see it as a cloth it is not a prayer shawl. If you ware it as a cloth you would contaminate the shawl.

A Prayer shawl is blessed by the Lord and to be put on as a meeting place with Him. This site it speaking of God's ways and how we can live for Him, not about clothing.
That is what I thought. It is a talisman or a kind of magical material item. There is no scripture where God blesses a material object to be used in prayer.
 

Nehemiah6

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#85
What is the purpose that God intended for the cloth? And why the color blue. How is the color blue used in parables?
Blue represents Heaven. But the prayer shawl and fringes were given to the children of Israel to remind them to obey the Law of Moses. Christians are under the Law of Christ. BIG DIFFERENCE.
 
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#86
There are different kinds of prayer. One needn't be labelled as wrong. Honouring God formally or in a ceremonial fashion can be just as valid as offering as private confession.

I don't know how many different ways I can reiterate that this isn't a matter of a right or wrong way of praying.
Well, Jesus said some would have their prayers be heard and some would not. It would behoove us to know which kind have their prayers answered and which are refused. From God's point of view, there is a right and wrong when it come to prayer, apparently. The wrong ways do not get their prayers answered. Makes a difference.
 

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To the title. Wearing and using a prayer shawl is just a tad like doing your works on the street corner to be seen by men.

When not using it, others can see your intentions. When secluding oneself under one,, again, it is a public disply of holier/than/thou. This is my understanding of it. It is not the least bit necessary for any reason.
 
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#88
The tzitzit was for all Jewish men, not only teachers. But Yeshua was indeed a teacher. There isn't any serious doubt about that.
The ethnic and national heritage of the one we call Lord is the general historical and cultural context of the Gospel narrative.

If you don't have an interest in that aspect of the Biblical setting that's fine. To me it's very interesting.
This is a strange answer. Jesus was just another Jewish man in terms of dress according to you. You needn't attack me personally.

The Jews and also now the Catholics are very interested in ritural and holy things to "aid their faith" although God actually forbids some of this sort of thing. I know a great deal about the Biblical setting and if you are going to be personally insulting we are going to be soon done conversing. Try to learn not to attack the poster when you do not like the post.
 
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To the title. Wearing and using a prayer shawl is just a tad like doing your works on the street corner to be seen by men.

When not using it, others can see your intentions. When secluding oneself under one,, again, it is a public disply of holier/than/thou. This is my understanding of it. It is not the least bit necessary for any reason.
Jesus actually indicated it is better to pray in such a way that only God knows you are praying. Using a prayer shawl and boasting about it to others is not in line with this thinking. Maybe "boasting" is not a fair word, I grant you that. But definately telling the world that you have special material you put over your head when you pray and when it goes over the head of someone suffering they stop suffering, that is very close to boasting.

Prayer is actually supposed to be where we communicate with God, not us seeking a pleasant spiritual experience. Offering others what they can do or have so they can have a very pleasant spiritual experience is using God for your own pleasure.

But that is very common in christian circles now and no one sees to be bothered by it. "Come and experience God" as though He were an amusement ride existing for our pleasure doesn't seem to be a problem. Some of them ask for money to be admitted to the event. I ask myself how many love God and how many love the spiritual high that is offered by men? (There is no doubt that those who are paid for "distributing the Holy Spirit" have an "extra pleasure" in the matter.)
 
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Nazarene ......under that vow as it seem Jesus was.
I don't agree with this :) Yeshua was from Nazareth and was seen as a Nazarene.

The Nazarite vow (as was taken by Samson) was clear that you couldn't eat grapes, come close to the skin of grapes or come close to wine or a grapevine (Samson was in contradiction of this :) ). They also were not supposed to cut their hair for the time they did the vow, so the vow was usually taken for a period of time if one would take it.

The two are not the same :)

God bless brother
 

Lucy-Pevensie

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#91
This is a strange answer. Jesus was just another Jewish man in terms of dress according to you. You needn't attack me personally.

The Jews and also now the Catholics are very interested in ritural and holy things to "aid their faith" although God actually forbids some of this sort of thing. I know a great deal about the Biblical setting and if you are going to be personally insulting we are going to be soon done conversing. Try to learn not to attack the poster when you do not like the post.
I think it is rather you who are answering strangely and attacking personally. You aren't conversing at all you have been simply offering self-righteous judgements on things you seem to disapprove of.

You aren't following any meaningful flow of conversation.
 

Lucy-Pevensie

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#92
Well, Jesus said some would have their prayers be heard and some would not. It would behoove us to know which kind have their prayers answered and which are refused. From God's point of view, there is a right and wrong when it come to prayer, apparently. The wrong ways do not get their prayers answered. Makes a difference.
You are full of religious prejudice.
 

Lucy-Pevensie

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To the title. Wearing and using a prayer shawl is just a tad like doing your works on the street corner to be seen by men.

When not using it, others can see your intentions. When secluding oneself under one,, again, it is a public disply of holier/than/thou. This is my understanding of it. It is not the least bit necessary for any reason.
Really? You can know the heart and intention of someone because they are wearing a prayer shawl?

You can be sure everyone in a prayer shawl is "holier than thou" in their attitude?
 
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I don't see any harm in using a prayer shawl in fact I use one too. It limits many distractions and helps me to focus.
Do I use it in public...no. Do I think that it makes me more holier ....no.
I believe what's happened throughout the yrs is that we as a church and new covenant believers have become a bit anti-Semitic when it comes to customs and traditions carried down through history.
Jesus himself respected customs and traditions but taught this is not your righteousness.
Jesus often times went alone to pray telling the others what he was doing. Is that boasting?
Need I remind you that even though most of us are gentiles we serve a Hebrew God. And have a Hebrew savior? That we are nothing more than grafted in by the grace and kindness of God at Christ's expense.
Far be it from me to tell someone their wrong when they use a prayer shawl to Tabernacle with the Lord.
 

Lucy-Pevensie

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#95
Why can't people just accept that others might have a genuine appreciation of something beautiful?
Without getting all religious and judgemental?
 

JaumeJ

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Jesus actually indicated it is better to pray in such a way that only God knows you are praying. Using a prayer shawl and boasting about it to others is not in line with this thinking. Maybe "boasting" is not a fair word, I grant you that. But definately telling the world that you have special material you put over your head when you pray and when it goes over the head of someone suffering they stop suffering, that is very close to boasting.

Prayer is actually supposed to be where we communicate with God, not us seeking a pleasant spiritual experience. Offering others what they can do or have so they can have a very pleasant spiritual experience is using God for your own pleasure.

But that is very common in christian circles now and no one sees to be bothered by it. "Come and experience God" as though He were an amusement ride existing for our pleasure doesn't seem to be a problem. Some of them ask for money to be admitted to the event. I ask myself how many love God and how many love the spiritual high that is offered by men? (There is no doubt that those who are paid for "distributing the Holy Spirit" have an "extra pleasure" in the matter.)
That is my reference.............
 
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I don't see any harm in using a prayer shawl in fact I use one too. It limits many distractions and helps me to focus.
Do I use it in public...no. Do I think that it makes me more holier ....no.
I believe what's happened throughout the yrs is that we as a church and new covenant believers have become a bit anti-Semitic when it comes to customs and traditions carried down through history.
Jesus himself respected customs and traditions but taught this is not your righteousness.
Jesus often times went alone to pray telling the others what he was doing. Is that boasting?
Need I remind you that even though most of us are gentiles we serve a Hebrew God. And have a Hebrew savior? That we are nothing more than grafted in by the grace and kindness of God at Christ's expense.
Far be it from me to tell someone their wrong when they use a prayer shawl to Tabernacle with the Lord.
We are anti-semitic because we don’t use fabric over our heads to pray!!!! Talk about personal attacks.
 
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We are on a real slippery slope when we try to see religion in something like a prayer shawl. Is it then religious to blow the shofar and call Abba Father into battle? I don’t think so, but it is my opinion :)

God bless my friends
 

Lucy-Pevensie

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We are on a real slippery slope when we try to see religion in something like a prayer shawl. Is it then religious to blow the shofar and call Abba Father into battle? I don’t think so, but it is my opinion :)

God bless my friends
I think it should be obvious to all that anything can be abused or used with wrong intention. WE humans are experts at using even good things excessively. But we can't throw out every outward show of faith because it MIGHT be abused by some people at some times.

A lot of Christians are baptised publicly. Are they all arrogantly showing off their perceived superiority to those who want to do it in private? Or are they joyfully proclaiming in a mild ritual, that they have committed themselves to Jesus and want to receive the Holy spirit?

I see a lot of people (especially women) love to go to church with giant bibles bound in special emblazoned, colourful covers with sets of highlighter pens and notepads. Are they just showing off? Or do they really just love the Bible?