Will, When and How will Satan come as Jesus?

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soberxp

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It isn't that he will come as Jesus it is that he will declare himself as God and even then he will have fiorst created a seven year peace treaty with Israel
How he will come who knows but I know he is already here.
I have wondered who it could be the bible says to calculate the number 666 for it is the name of a man I know that in the hebrew language each letter has a number asigned to it so I have been curious as to if someone were to calculate names of those in power in the world right now using this method if it would be possible to figure it out it says let he with wisdom calculate it guess I'm out LOL
hey,bro.
666 is The number of man, not a name of man.

so you need to retry.
 

soberxp

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but does he come as Jesus, or as a supposed look a like ?
When God knew this terrible thought,even The Bible says Jesus coming in the clouds,But the reality is that Satan and Jesus appeared together at The same time.

Can you say that God changed the Bible?

or whatever?
 

T_Laurich

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#24
When God knew this terrible thought,even The Bible says Jesus coming in the clouds,But the reality is that Satan and Jesus appeared together at The same time.

Can you say that God changed the Bible?

or whatever?
Satan and God appeared at the same time?????

What are you talking about?
 

soberxp

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Satan and God appeared at the same time?????

What are you talking about?
Do you use a mobile phone or a computer? If it's a computer, please see the link in my signature
 

Blain

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hey,bro.
666 is The number of man, not a name of man.

so you need to retry.
This calls for wisdom. Let the person who has insight calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man. That number is 666.
Revelation 13:18 it says to calculate the number of the beast because it is the number a man note the a before man
 

soberxp

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#29
This calls for wisdom. Let the person who has insight calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man. That number is 666.
Revelation 13:18 it says to calculate the number of the beast because it is the number a man note the a before man
The number 666 appears four times in the Bible.
Do you think they have any connection?
 

Blain

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The number 666 appears four times in the Bible.
Do you think they have any connection?
Yes they do everything in the bible connects one way or another the bible os like a spider web crafted and connected with each line to another, from the beginning to end the bible shows how God knew all that would happen the fact that the number 67 is always coincided with man is no coincidence man in their natural state are everything that doesn't represent God flesh vs. spirit sin vs. purity pride vs. humbleness ect. the beast or antichrist is the physical representation of everything God stands against everything man in our fall fall from the garden of eden represent

The numbers in scripture each have a mean and purpose I began studying biblical numerology because I became fascinated with the hebrew language every letter has a numeric value to it did you know if you calculate our languahe of the name Jesus it equals 888? the number 8 in scripture represents new life revival the true salvation and ressurection of man Jesus began his ministry at 30 and if you didn't know that is the gae priests and the like would begin their ministries as they were officially regarded as fully grown and matured

I am fascinated with bible prophecy so I often will dive into deep research God lead me to biblacal numerology and found the ways it connects all throughout the bible and how it was used how it represented things it is literally a hidden language and code the problem is that I am unable to learn the hebrew language as an expert so I have to do lots of searching to understand it
 

Rondonmon

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The second coming of Jesus is well know from Scripture, and the signs tell us it is close. But the word speaks of Satan coming as an angel of light, and false Christs coming. Satan isn't stupid so how will it all happen?
2Co 11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
Mat 24:23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
Mat 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. 25 Behold, I have told you before.
Satan appears as an Angel of light refers to his lying spirit, if one could see him, they would know, but his deceiving lies trick SOME like Joseph Smith into traveling the wrong path.

As per the Anti-Christ in Matthew 24 trying to appear to be like, Jesus, most people miss the rest of Jesus' statement. In verse 25, BEHOLD, I have told you before[hand]. Then he says if they come and say he's in the secret storeroom or in the desert, don;t believe it, for I will come in the Eastern Skies.

So, who is Jesus talking to here? There has to be a subset of people the Anti-Christ can't get at, else he wouldn't be trying to TRICK THEM, and Jesus' warning would ve no good anyway if he could get at them, the Martyrs under the 5th seal will all die, but the Jews tat flee unto Juda are protected by God, thus Abrahams seed via the promise will remain intact, and the Jewish people can set-up a kingdom under Jesus the anointed one.

Those who cite John 5:43, that the Jews accept another that comes in Jesus' name do not understand, that passage was about the Pharisees/Jewish leaders in Jesus' time. That was fulfilled in 70 AD, the Rejected Jesus, but accepted others as the political saviors or "Messiahs" to save them from the Roman Fourth Beast.

The Jews never accept the end time Anti-Christ. That is a misnomer. Now, he indeed tries tom trick them, in order to get the ones who repented and fled unto Petra to come out of their protected zone, but Jesus has told them BEFOREHAND, I will not be in the Desert or in a storeroom in Jerusalem, LOOK FOR ME........In the Eastern skies, nowhere else. So, they know its a lie. Thus they remain in their protected zone.

Now, who else does the Anti-Christ need to trick? No one, the 2/3 Jews who do not repent, Zechariah 13:8-9 says will perish or be killed, but the 1/3 who repent, God will call his own, and He will protect them says Rev. 12, for 1260 days in the mountains. Everyone else this tyrant can get at, and thus he doesn't need to FAKE being Jesus, he wants to be worshiped as god, not as Jesus.
 

Rondonmon

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#33
It isn't that he will come as Jesus it is that he will declare himself as God and even then he will have fiorst created a seven year peace treaty with Israel
It took the USA and China 3 years to hammer out a trade agreement. What if I told you there are currently 7-year agreements in place under the name tag European Neighborhood Policy and it involves the E.U. and not only Israel but Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, Egypt, Tunisia, Libya, and Morocco !! You see, he doesn't just conquer Israel, he has to be the Mediterranean Sea Region Beast like all the rest were. Thus THE MANY mentioned in Dan. 8:25, 9:27, and 11:41 refers to Israel and the MANY other nations in the region. He destroys MANY by peace(Dan 8:25), not just Israel, he makes a one-week agreement with MANY (Dan.9:27) and in Daniel 11:41 it says he conquers MANY countries. So, what happens is he comes to power, just after the Rapture, and he forces a rearranged deal on all these nations, they are currently being given 15 billion euros of a 7 year period of time, it ran from 2007-2013 and then from 2014-2020. These nations get used to the teat, and thus when he comes in, he demands concessions. Israel wants SO BAD to be a part of the E.U., they even play football (Soccer) in the Euro League. My guess is, they are talked into given up their nukes and told the E.U. will be their protector, as the USA is Wyoming's protector or Hawaii's protector.

Those deals had to be in place before the AC came to power, he only has so long, Satan needed them HOOKED by the time the AC comes to power. Then he has leverage over these nations. If one reads Dan. 11:40-43 they can see just who he conquers, Israel and all of North Africa, and just before Israel it sys he rolls through many countries, no doubt its Syria, Jordan and Lebanon. He is not allowed to Conquer Central and Southern Jordan (Ammon, Moab and Edom) and that just so happens to be where Petra is.

Actually, you are pretty spot on, in general.

How he will come who knows but I know he is already here.
He comes to power in the E.U. he born in Greece and he has Assyrian (Turkish blood)

I have wondered who it could be the bible says to calculate the number 666 for it is the name of a man I know that in the hebrew language each letter has a number asigned to it so I have been curious as to if someone were to calculate names of those in power in the world right now using this method if it would be possible to figure it out it says let he with wisdom calculate it guess I'm out LOL
I personally think 666 is just telling us the last Beast is a Human Being and not a Nation Beast like the other six were. 6 stands for humanity. This Beast never passes his kingdom on to another as all of the other Beasts did, thus he is the Beast, this is why Daniel 7:11 says the bests BODY is destroyed and he is CAST into hell.
The numbers in scripture each have a mean and purpose I began studying biblical numerology because I became fascinated with the hebrew language every letter has a numeric value to it did you know if you calculate our languahe of the name Jesus it equals 888? the number 8 in scripture represents new life revival the true salvation and ressurection of man Jesus began his ministry at 30 and if you didn't know that is the gae priests and the like would begin their ministries as they were officially regarded as fully grown and matured

I am fascinated with bible prophecy so I often will dive into deep research God lead me to biblacal numerology and found the ways it connects all throughout the bible and how it was used how it represented things it is literally a hidden language and code the problem is that I am unable to learn the hebrew language as an expert so I have to do lots of searching to understand it
Very true.

7 and 10 = Completeness and 12 = fullness. Now does 144,000 ring a bell ? What does it really mean? Well, 12 x 12 x 10 x 10 x 10 is 144,000 so its a Metaphor for ALL Israel that REPENTED, te Complete AND full number thereof, which Zechariah 13:8-9 says is 1/3 of all the Jewish peoples, so that would mean 3 million if we are only counting Israel, if we are counting worldwide it would be 5 million. It doesn't mean 144,000, it means the Jews who fled Judea for the mountains in the Bozrah/Petra area, where God protects them.

The number 10 in Rev. 2:10 doesn't mean Smyrna has tribulation 10 days, it mean for the complete Church Age. And the 10 horns that come out of the Fourth Beasts Head means the complete number of fractured (Iron & Clay) kingdoms at any given time that makes up Europe, until the very end times when they finally do reform as a single government. It never meant 10, it meant the complete number thereof. Right now, I think its 26 nations minus England.
 
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pottersclay

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#34
The second coming of Jesus is well know from Scripture, and the signs tell us it is close. But the word speaks of Satan coming as an angel of light, and false Christs coming. Satan isn't stupid so how will it all happen?
2Co 11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
Mat 24:23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
Mat 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. 25 Behold, I have told you before.
Great question.....as the rise of anti-christ is so often mis taught and many are mis informed about this event.

The true definition of anti Christ is....,.... instead of Christ or instead of God.
The likeness is that it will be a man with supernatural abilities
He will gain popularity through social media and political endorsement having the answers to the world's
Ever increasing dilemmas.
As the world presses on to the new world order (one person to govern the world) he will be chosen to sit in that seat.
There will be a new world religion which embraces all faiths which also will be ruled by him. Bringing peace and stability to the middle east.
After this his fame and vanity leads him to declare he is God.

This is but a short answer to the question.
 
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DWR

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The OP asked "when will Satan come as Jesus" and I said he would not.
Now if he has asked "when will Satan come as Christ" my answer would be, Satan has been doing so from the time of Jesus.
The word Christ means the anointed one.
Jesus was the anointed 0f God the Father. We surely agree on that.
Satan will not come as Jesus, but will claim to be anointed just as many do today.
The internet, many church buildings, are filled with those who claim to be anointed. Some on this forum claim to be anointed, i.e. Christ.

Those who know the character of Jesus, the truly anointed one, The Christ, will not be deceived just as we are not deceived today.
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DWR

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Great question.....as the rise of anti-christ is so often mis taught and many are mis informed about this event.

The true definition of anti Christ is....,.... instead of Christ or instead of God.
The likeness is that it will be a man with supernatural abilities
He will gain popularity through social media and political endorsement having the answers to the world's
Ever increasing dilemmas.
As the world presses on to the new world order (one person to govern the world) he will be chosen to sit in that seat.
There will be a new world religion which embraces all faiths which also will be ruled by him. Bringing peace and stability to the middle east.
After this his fame and vanity leads him to declare he is God.

This is but a short answer to the question.
I disagree with your definition of anti Christ.
I believe the proper definition is opposed to Christ.
He will claim to be anointed while opposing all that is Holy.
 
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DWR

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#38
People who know the truth will not be deceived.
Deception is the result of ignorance.
Many if not most are ignorant of how Jesus will return.
Sadly this is true of most Believers also.
The Scripture explains in great detail the return of Jesus.
God did not want us to be ignorant and subject to deception.
It is up to each of us to study and know.
 

JaumeJ

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Perhaps you will be pleased to read in the Word how only those who knowingly choose evil over good will be deceived. It is in one of the letter of the Thessalonians I believe.

It comes with the spirit of delusion which our Father will pour out over the world. I believe this is happening today, but perhaps there has always been this to some extent.
 

Blain

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#40
It took the USA and China 3 years to hammer out a trade agreement. What if I told you there are currently 7-year agreements in place under the name tag European Neighborhood Policy and it involves the E.U. and not only Israel but Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, Egypt, Tunisia, Libya, and Morocco !! You see, he doesn't just conquer Israel, he has to be the Mediterranean Sea Region Beast like all the rest were. Thus THE MANY mentioned in Dan. 8:25, 9:27, and 11:41 refers to Israel and the MANY other nations in the region. He destroys MANY by peace(Dan 8:25), not just Israel, he makes a one-week agreement with MANY (Dan.9:27) and in Daniel 11:41 it says he conquers MANY countries. So, what happens is he comes to power, just after the Rapture, and he forces a rearranged deal on all these nations, they are currently being given 15 billion euros of a 7 year period of time, it ran from 2007-2013 and then from 2014-2020. These nations get used to the teat, and thus when he comes in, he demands concessions. Israel wants SO BAD to be a part of the E.U., they even play football (Soccer) in the Euro League. My guess is, they are talked into given up their nukes and told the E.U. will be their protector, as the USA is Wyoming's protector or Hawaii's protector.

Those deals had to be in place before the AC came to power, he only has so long, Satan needed them HOOKED by the time the AC comes to power. Then he has leverage over these nations. If one reads Dan. 11:40-43 they can see just who he conquers, Israel and all of North Africa, and just before Israel it sys he rolls through many countries, no doubt its Syria, Jordan and Lebanon. He is not allowed to Conquer Central and Southern Jordan (Ammon, Moab and Edom) and that just so happens to be where Petra is.

Actually, you are pretty spot on, in general.



He comes to power in the E.U. he born in Greece and he has Assyrian (Turkish blood)



I personally think 666 is just telling us the last Beast is a Human Being and not a Nation Beast like the other six were. 6 stands for humanity. This Beast never passes his kingdom on to another as all of the other Beasts did, thus he is the Beast, this is why Daniel 7:11 says the bests BODY is destroyed and he is CAST into hell.

Very true.

7 and 10 = Completeness and 12 = fullness. Now does 144,000 ring a bell ? What does it really mean? Well, 12 x 12 x 10 x 10 x 10 is 144,000 so its a Metaphor for ALL Israel that REPENTED, te Complete AND full number thereof, which Zechariah 13:8-9 says is 1/3 of all the Jewish peoples, so that would mean 3 million if we are only counting Israel, if we are counting worldwide it would be 5 million. It doesn't mean 144,000, it means the Jews who fled Judea for the mountains in the Bozrah/Petra area, where God protects them.

The number 10 in Rev. 2:10 doesn't mean Smyrna has tribulation 10 days, it mean for the complete Church Age. And the 10 horns that come out of the Fourth Beasts Head means the complete number of fractured (Iron & Clay) kingdoms at any given time that makes up Europe, until the very end times when they finally do reform as a single government. It never meant 10, it meant the complete number thereof. Right now, I think its 26 nations minus England.
Very interesting I actually had no idea about those 7 year peace deals and yes I agree he will come from the eu many here in the united states believe he will be here but the bible says he will come from the sea but the thing to pay attention to is at least on of the main things is the animals it resembles a leoperd bear and lion these animals are represented only in a certain part of the world

And your calculations are spot on as well and sadly many believers see biblical numerology as occult so there aren't a lot who see and recognize the patterns used in scripture I would actually love to talk with you about all of this you seem to have the same passion for bible prophecy and your information is spot on as well