Winning People to Our Own Church or Denomination

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wwjd_kilden

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strangelove. I agree one don't need a specific denomination, but we DO need fellowship

1 John 1:7

New International Version (NIV)

7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus, his Son, purifies us from all[a] sin.
 
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strangelove. I agree one don't need a specific denomination, but we DO need fellowship

1 John 1:7

New International Version (NIV)

7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus, his Son, purifies us from all[a] sin.
I fellowship plenty...I just dont do it in a church building.
 
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AnandaHya

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So theres no people in the Church of Christ?
lol there is a denomination called the church of Christ, Beth is a part of that one.

lol sorry it just struck me funny the question because I'm sure she could tell us but I don't think that is the meaning behind your question.
 
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So theres no people in the Church of Christ?
Depends on which Church of Christ you are referring to. It sounded to me like you were talking about you and Jesus and nobody else, but I guess there really is a church named Church of Christ.
 
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kujo313

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I think some Protestant churches need to be told this. Because instead of focusing on evangelism in Christian minority countries they're expending resources trying to convert Christian majority countries like Russia, Italy, Greece, Romania, and Bulgaria. (Hint these countries all have one thing in common).
I think that some non-Protestant churches need to be told this, too.

Does the Holy Spirit cause the people in your assembly to act like the 120 in Acts 2?
In the presence of God, do people dance like King David?
In the assembly, do people "lift holy hands" and enter with "thanksgiving"?
 
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SantoSubito

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I think that some non-Protestant churches need to be told this, too.

Does the Holy Spirit cause the people in your assembly to act like the 120 in Acts 2?
In the presence of God, do people dance like King David?
In the assembly, do people "lift holy hands" and enter with "thanksgiving"?
I don't know about the Orthodox but practically all of the RCC evangelism resources go into converting people in Christian minority countries. There are some ministries like Catholics Come Home, but even they mainly focus on non-practicing Catholics.

Do you mean the 12? No we don't speak in tongues at Mass, but we don't believe people can't (just google Charismatic Catholic).

No we don't dance at Mass. Worship is reverential, contemplative, and respectful; not some mad dance party. But once again they can do so at home or at separate prayer services (which are pretty close to what you'd see in your standard Pentecostal church).

Yes we do lift our hands multiple times during the Mass, particularly during the Our Father. We also enter with thanksgiving making the sign of the Cross.
 
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Depends on which Church of Christ you are referring to. It sounded to me like you were talking about you and Jesus and nobody else, but I guess there really is a church named Church of Christ.
I'm talking about me and Jesus and all true Christians. The Body of Christ. Thats my Church.

All very real people.
 
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kujo313

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I don't know about the Orthodox but practically all of the RCC evangelism resources go into converting people in Christian minority countries. There are some ministries like Catholics Come Home, but even they mainly focus on non-practicing Catholics.

Do you mean the 12? No we don't speak in tongues at Mass, but we don't believe people can't (just google Charismatic Catholic).

No we don't dance at Mass. Worship is reverential, contemplative, and respectful; not some mad dance party. But once again they can do so at home or at separate prayer services (which are pretty close to what you'd see in your standard Pentecostal church).

Yes we do lift our hands multiple times during the Mass, particularly during the Our Father. We also enter with thanksgiving making the sign of the Cross.
"mad dance party"? Is that what King David promote when he danced before the LORD with all his might?

I can see "respectful". There's no mosh pit or slam dancing where I go.
 
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I'd like to see a church that didn't ask for money, one that didn't need microphones and doughnuts on the counter, a church where the pastor didn't plan his sermons but let the Holy Spirit guide him on that day, at that moment and the people were encouraged to ask questions and give input during the teachings, allowing the Holy Spirit to work through all of the parts of the body for one "whole message".
 
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I'd like to see a church that didn't ask for money, one that didn't need microphones and doughnuts on the counter, a church where the pastor didn't plan his sermons but let the Holy Spirit guide him on that day, at that moment and the people were encouraged to ask questions and give input during the teachings, allowing the Holy Spirit to work through all of the parts of the body for one "whole message".
Sounds like a huge group simultaneous charismatic revelation session.

Cant think of anything worse dude.

(1 Corinthians 14:40) Let all things be done decently and in order.
 
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Eh, I was jsut waiting for some ignorant people to start slamming the Church of Christ because of things they have HEARD from others. No one bit. Oh well.
I'll bite if you post a thread with your statement of faith!

 
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SantoSubito

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"mad dance party"? Is that what King David promote when he danced before the LORD with all his might?

I can see "respectful". There's no mosh pit or slam dancing where I go.
Like I said, in the eyes of the Catholic Church dancing is wrong for the Mass, and quite frankly only suits a few peoples tastes which wouldn't work as a universal form of worship. Liturgical worship on the other hand works very well as a universal form of worship (counting Protestant denominations some 90% of the world's Christians worship liturgically).

If you still want the dancing there are Charismatic Catholic prayer meetings you can go to.

I would also be quick to point out that dancing was never a part of the formal liturgical worship God commanded for the Temple.
 
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kujo313

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Like I said, in the eyes of the Catholic Church dancing is wrong for the Mass, and quite frankly only suits a few peoples tastes which wouldn't work as a universal form of worship. Liturgical worship on the other hand works very well as a universal form of worship (counting Protestant denominations some 90% of the world's Christians worship liturgically).

If you still want the dancing there are Charismatic Catholic prayer meetings you can go to.

I would also be quick to point out that dancing was never a part of the formal liturgical worship God commanded for the Temple.
In Acts 2, the people were accused of being drunk. They was in worship.

What if the Holy Spirit interrupted the "mass"? What if He wanted a "charismatic movement" when a "meeting" is not scheduled? The people in the Upper Room didn't know EXACTLY what day nor hour that the Holy Spirit came upon them so how can you schedule a meeting for charismatic prayer?

"Ok, people, the Holy Spirit will be in room 104 Sunday night at 7pm" <<< just an example.

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"We will allow the Holy Spirit to move us in prayer at 7pm".

The "Temple" is actually a PLACE where people gather. The "Upper Room" was where the 120 went. When they was all in one accord, the place became a Temple. The Temple is a place and any place can be a Temple when two or more gather.

I'm also sure that the 120 in the Room wasn't expecting to worship in such a manner that people swore that they was drunk. I've seen drunk people gather. I used to be one. They sure wasn't standing quietly, repeating the same words week after week.
 
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The "Temple" is actually a PLACE where people gather. The "Upper Room" was where the 120 went. When they was all in one accord, the place became a Temple. The Temple is a place and any place can be a Temple when two or more gather.
Actually the "temple" is within every believer, and together they make up the Church, in spirit.

We are the temple. And the son of perdition will rise up in the midst of that temple.
 
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Bobbyking

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Rather than trying to win people over to our own churches or denominations, be it Eastern Orthodox, Catholic, United Methodist, or whatever, it seems to me we should be trying to win people over to our Father in heaven.
Hi

I fully agree... Usually, I share the gospel of Jesus Christ to unbelievers and win them to the Kingdom of God first, emphasizing 'that the person is a sinner, asking God for forgiveness, accepting Jesus Christ as Lord & Savior, and inviting Him into their lives.'

The Church (and thus the denomination) will come in when the new believer can listen to the Word of God being preached and the fellowship of fellow believers. :)