Women as Preachers: Does God's word authorize this???

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MEN & WOMEN: Agree or disagree with women preaching & leading in churches.


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Closemyeyes2cU

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It's obvious that women are not to preach or have spiritual authority over men in the church.

With that being said, there is no prohibition against women teaching other women and children that I'm aware of. That is very important if you ask me. The ones who teach our children play a big role in our future. Today's little boys are tomorrows pastors. The mind of a child is so influential and like a sponge, it absorbs everything. So women can still play a huge role in teaching.
 
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Yea I can see nowhere that it says women shouldn't teach children. That being said, when does a boy become a man? Probably that would be a bit subjective but I know one truth, Mary brought Jesus up. She must have taught him something!! It's kinda like that I'd think. If men and women are sister and brother in God, then surely women and boy would be mother and son in God.
 
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Closemyeyes2cU

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That being said, when does a boy become a man?
I guess when his voice changes and people quit mistaken him for a women over the phone :eek:
 
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GreenNnice

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You have a good balance in your understanding but these others will not hear what you are saying as a woman who has good conviction. There are those on this site that believe that they have an understanding from the Holy Spirit and anything you say contrary to that understanding is contrary to the word or they will accuse you of not reading or understanding their posts. They are very subjective individuals that are easily offended and they often retaliate with belittling comments to make you feel ignorant of foolish with what you have been given by God. There are only a few on this site that are like that but they are consistent and they have a mutual admiration for one another that is very noticeable. So don't let these few individuals bother you, just walk in the light you have been given and hope that others will walk in the same light that glorifies God in the truth. You are a good champion of the faith in this area of truth and stay steadfast.
Wow, how big of you, Reddy, to say that we who see the current times work of God using women pastors as nothing more than a crux usage of the Holy Spirit. So be it, like I said earlier, and, I pray my words DO follow He who is in me than he who is in the world, we will be judged for EVERY false word we claim, and, those being teachers will be judged more .

But, that said, answer this question: Are ALL women pastors in society today FALSE TEACHERS?

Simple question, have at it, and, I suggesr you PRAY DEEPLY TO GOD, let the Holy Spirit give you right words , I pray you understand me, I am NOT saying what Paul said about women teachimg over men is false scripture, I don't! But, the word of God is by men, and, I won't to be careful, dear Lord...amen, because I in NO way want you to think there are exceptions to God's Holy Spirit written rule by men, and, women, in NT and OT, but, God is God and when He does something, like divinely authorize women to pastor great throngs of people, like many, many, many women pastors in TODAY'S SOCIETY, Ido NOT question God's SEEN will of this happenimg despite what scripture says. God is God and, women are peacemakers, who knows, but, in the wars of Syria and Israel maybe we would bebetter off as a world SOCIETY.
I don't question God in whatever He's done, it is God's will, but, I really did want to see that woman president come to power (I forget her name) in Pakistan because I felt a woman could bring peace to middle east in among the Netanyu and other world leaders.

Anyway, auntbea, 'YOU' is how you attribute what I say, and, this I tell YOU, and, Reddy, and, mediation, and, Eddie, and, eyeswideclosed, and, everyone else, what I say is not about me, it is about He who is in me, desperately fighting what is being said against women pastors because many (not me) have women pastors preaching to.them now and YOUR cutting words can AFFECT theses' FAITH, ahd,, maybe, even, their salvation.'

I will leave you with this: Everyone knew Judas was a betrayer, Peter certainly did, and, a betrayer is just LIKE a woman pastor in that God preached against both being right things to do. However....

...after Jesus arose from the grave and many were following Christ, including JUDAS, who BETRAYED JESUS, Peter said these words, and, listen, pray, listen, to what is,said next, Christ peeps.

Peter: But, Lord, what about this woman pastor, Meyers, she preaches against 'this,' or, Kuhlman, she against this, or, what about your Word, Lord, you say yourself, ' Women are not to teach or usurp.authority over a man,' and, that's a quote, Lord, uh-huh, that
 
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edward99

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.....but, God is God and when He does something, like divinely authorize women to pastor great throngs of people, like many, many, many women pastors in TODAY'S SOCIETY, Ido NOT question God's SEEN will of this happenimg despite what scripture says.
Eddie.....what I say is not about me, it is about He who is in me, desperately fighting what is being said against women pastors because many (not me) have women pastors preaching to.them now and YOUR cutting words can AFFECT theses' FAITH, ahd,, maybe, even, their salvation.
So you are saying The Holy Spirit is telling you desperately fight FOR women pastors in spite of what scripture says?

And that staying faithful to what Apostle Paul recorded (NO WOMEN PASTORS) is HURTING people's faith and SALVATION?

Rethink it - they know what it says, and they CHOOSE a woman pastor (or "gay" or whatever other rebellion you can think of) - so don't put that on me, man.

I will leave you with this: Everyone knew Judas was a betrayer, Peter certainly did, and, a betrayer is just LIKE a woman pastor in that God preached against both being right things to do. However....

...after Jesus arose from the grave and many were following Christ, including JUDAS, who BETRAYED JESUS, Peter said these words, and, listen, pray, listen, to what is,said next, Christ peeps.

Peter: But, Lord, what about this woman pastor, Meyers, she preaches against 'this,' or, Kuhlman, she against this, or, what about your Word, Lord, you say yourself, ' Women are not to teach or usurp.authority over a man,' and, that's a quote, Lord, uh-huh, that
This last part is virtually incoherent, and I'd think twice about speaking for Peter (or anyone else in scripture).
 
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GreenNnice

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...is true, Your Word, Lord. Joyce Meyers, why her? Kuhlman? Why all these women pastors. Paul is said to have preached of Holy Spirit , not him writing words of his books in Bible. What are you, thetefore, saying, Lord? You said it, I didn't. And, so, what about this ungodly, backstabbing man behind you who betrayed you with a kiss. What about him, why does he get to follow you too, now? '

Jesus answered, 'If I will that he remain, what is that to you? You follow Me.'

Christ peeps, pray for Gid's peace and understanding, and,, above all else, follow Him :) God is sovereign, knows all, does all, will come back for all :)
 
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GreenNnice - The bible says what it says. Maybe I'd like for us to be back in Eden, eating tree-of-life fruit playing with the Lions, but it just ain't to be.
 
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edward99

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...after Jesus arose from the grave and many were following Christ, including JUDAS, who BETRAYED JESUS
What bible are you reading?

Matthew 27
Judas’s Remorse

1Now when morning came, all the chief priests and the elders of the people conferred together against Jesus to put Him to death; 2and they bound Him, and led Him away and delivered Him to Pilate the governor.

3Then when Judas, who had betrayed Him, saw that He had been condemned, he felt remorse and returned the thirty pieces of silver to the chief priests and elders, 4saying, “I have sinned by betraying innocent blood.” But they said, “What is that to us? See to that yourself!” 5And he threw the pieces of silver into the temple sanctuary and departed; and he went away and hanged himself. 6The chief priests took the pieces of silver and said, “It is not lawful to put them into the temple treasury, since it is the price of blood.” 7And they conferred together and with the money bought the Potter’s Field as a burial place for strangers. 8For this reason that field has been called the Field of Blood to this day. 9Then that which was spoken through Jeremiah the prophet was fulfilled: “AND THEY TOOK THE THIRTY PIECES OF SILVER, THE PRICE OF THE ONE WHOSE PRICE HAD BEEN SET by the sons of Israel; 10AND THEY GAVE THEM FOR THE POTTER’S FIELD, AS THE LORD DIRECTED ME.”

Jesus before Pilate

11Now Jesus stood before the governor, and the governor questioned Him, saying, “Are You the King of the Jews?” And Jesus said to him, “It is as you say.” 12And while He was being accused by the chief priests and elders, He did not answer. 13Then Pilate said to Him, “Do You not hear how many things they testify against You?” 14And He did not answer him with regard to even a single charge, so the governor was quite amazed.
 
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Christ keeping Judas is a show of his acceptance of all people into his company, it's Got nothing to do with women pastors. Jesus is saying 'Anyone can follow me, but not all follow me in spirit, some only in their steps, not their hearts'.

Paul and Kuhlman are very different. Paul was directly spoken to by God, and he knew 'the 12'. Paul is a different story. he's a prophet. And a man. These women are women, not prophets, and do not personally know the 12 disciples.

Both Paul and Timothy make it clear there should be no women preachers.
 
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They said it first. 2000 years ago.

So you're saying 'Paul said no women preachers 2000 years ago, but what if these women preachers (which God doesnt allow) are also prophets'.

That's a conundrum if I ever seen one.
 
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edward99

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...is true, Your Word, Lord. Joyce Meyers, why her? Kuhlman? Why all these women pastors. Paul is said to have preached of Holy Spirit , not him writing words of his books in Bible. What are you, thetefore, saying, Lord? You said it, I didn't. And, so, what about this ungodly, backstabbing man behind you who betrayed you with a kiss. What about him, why does he get to follow you too, now? '

Jesus answered, 'If I will that he remain, what is that to you? You follow Me.'

Christ peeps, pray for Gid's peace and understanding, and,, above all else, follow Him :) God is sovereign, knows all, does all, will come back for all :)
Man, I have no idea what you are reading.

This is Peter asking about JOHN - not JUDAS:

Jesus answered, 'If I will that he remain, what is that to you? You follow Me.'

John 21
Our Times Are in His Hand

18“Truly, truly, I say to you, when you were younger, you used to gird yourself and walk wherever you wished; but when you grow old, you will stretch out your hands and someone else will gird you, and bring you where you do not wish to go.” 19Now this He said, signifying by what kind of death he would glorify God. And when He had spoken this, He said to him, “Follow Me!”

20Peter, turning around, saw the disciple whom Jesus loved following them; the one who also had leaned back on His bosom at the supper and said, “Lord, who is the one who betrays You?” 21So Peter seeing him said to Jesus, “Lord, and what about this man?” 22Jesus said to him, “If I want him to remain until I come, what is that to you? You follow Me!” 23Therefore this saying went out among the brethren that that disciple would not die; yet Jesus did not say to him that he would not die, but only, “If I want him to remain until I come, what is that to you?”

24This is the disciple who is testifying to these things and wrote these things, and we know that his testimony is true.

25And there are also many other things which Jesus did, which if they were written in detail, I suppose that even the world itself would not contain the books that would be written.
 
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GreenNnice

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Man, I have no idea what you are reading.

This is Peter asking about JOHN - not JUDAS:

Jesus answered, 'If I will that he remain, what is that to you? You follow Me.'

John 21
Our Times Are in His Hand

18“Truly, truly, I say to you, when you were younger, you used to gird yourself and walk wherever you wished; but when you grow old, you will stretch out your hands and someone else will gird you, and bring you where you do not wish to go.” 19Now this He said, signifying by what kind of death he would glorify God. And when He had spoken this, He said to him, “Follow Me!”

20Peter, turning around, saw the disciple whom Jesus loved following them; the one who also had leaned back on His bosom at the supper and said, “Lord, who is the one who betrays You?” 21So Peter seeing him said to Jesus, “Lord, and what about this man?” 22Jesus said to him, “If I want him to remain until I come, what is that to you? You follow Me!” 23Therefore this saying went out among the brethren that that disciple would not die; yet Jesus did not say to him that he would not die, but only, “If I want him to remain until I come, what is that to you?”

24This is the disciple who is testifying to these things and wrote these things, and we know that his testimony is true.

25And there are also many other things which Jesus did, which if they were written in detail, I suppose that even the world itself would not contain the books that would be written.

Doesn't matter, but, no, Peter was not saying John 'betrayed' Jesus, but, yes, it does not matter who said what, Jesus words are still going to contain the same meaning, Eddie :)

Jesus repeated this phrase twice, too, uh, John reiterated what Jesus said rather....

Jesus words were quoted again, except 'Follow Me,' which we all know is what God wants us to do after one time said, right. :) Follow Me.

This is from John 21:20-22 and, yes, of course, I embellished what Peter said in typical inqisitive Peter fashion :), for emphasis, and, the point the same
 
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edward99

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Doesn't matter, but, no, Peter was not saying John 'betrayed' Jesus, but, yes, it does not matter who said what, Jesus words are still going to contain the same meaning, Eddie :)
Yes it does matter. It matters ALOT Who said what.

His words to Peter about John (the disciple Jesus loved who asked Him who would betray Him) do NOT contain the same meaning as applied to Judas Iscariot or any other unfaithful unbeliever.

You had Judas following Jesus post resurrection (after Judas was dead), and totally changed the words of Jesus in response to Peter, about JOHN, making it about Judas! Meaning Jesus is all good with Judas now and all is forgiven no matter what.

So you could justify the current-day Judases who betray Jesus by making a mockery of the Church He established through His holy Apostles, Himself the Chief Cornerstone. I don't know why you are trying to overthrow that foundation and build some other, but it won't work.

Jesus repeated this phrase twice, too, uh, John reiterated what Jesus said rather....

Jesus words were quoted again, except 'Follow Me,' which we all know is what God wants us to do after one time said, right. :) Follow Me.
When He spoke that to Peter He was telling Peter He would be following Him in crucifixion and suffering for His Sake.

This is from John 21:20-22 and, yes, of course, I embellished what Peter said in typical inqisitive Peter fashion :), for emphasis, and, the point the same
Don't do that unless you understand what they actually said, is my advice.
 
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GreenNnice

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Yes it does matter. It matters ALOT Who said what.

His words to Peter about John (the disciple Jesus loved who asked Him who would betray Him) do NOT contain the same meaning as applied to Judas Iscariot or any other unfaithful unbeliever.

You had Judas following Jesus post resurrection (after Judas was dead), and totally changed the words of Jesus in response to Peter, about JOHN, making it about Judas! Meaning Jesus is all good with Judas now and all is forgiven no matter what.

So you could justify the current-day Judases who betray Jesus by making a mockery of the Church He established through His holy Apostles, Himself the Chief Cornerstone. I don't know why you are trying to overthrow that foundation and build some other, but it won't work.



When He spoke that to Peter He was telling Peter He would be following Him in crucifixion and suffering for His Sake.



Don't do that unless you understand what they actually said, is my advice.

I do understand what was said, Peter was speaking of the betrayer, and, that is Judas.
Peter I upset because Judas, Christ's betrayer, is allowed to be following with everyone else.

Jesus,was responding to Peter regarding Peter's inquisition of Judas.

Peter: Lord, who is the one who betrays You.
Peter seeing him (Judas the Betrayer), said to Jesus, 'But Lord, what about this man (Judas)?'

Jesus responded directly to Peter, regarding Judas: 'If I will that he remain till I come, what is that to you? You follow Me.'

Judas died 'post-resurrection,' in Acts 1, didn't he?

What tells you Judas died before Jesus was taken up into Heaven?

Again, this info Carries no bearing on the Truth that Jesus told US ,even though He was speaking to someone else, 'If I will that he remain, what is that to you?'

Jesus said, in so many words, YOU WORRY ABOUT YOU, let Me take care of everyone else. You got enough things to worry about, Peter, with your own wretched, denying-Me-three times self!' LOL, of course, that is NOT what Jesus said nor would EVER say, for God is Love and He NEVER convicts His own , tnose who Love Him and carry faith of Him. God corrects, chastens, even scourges His own for punishment, but never finds them guilty or even brings up guilt. That is the Enemy who ONLY does that to us, there is no condemnation in Christ Jesus for those who Love Him, but, also there is no convicting, THAT was all done away with, being convicted, the moment YOU chose Him. Your sin? Gone! 'Born of God, you do NOT sin, per John 3:6,9. :)
 
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edward99

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I do understand what was said, Peter was speaking of the betrayer, and, that is Judas.
Peter I upset because Judas, Christ's betrayer, is allowed to be following with everyone else.

Jesus,was responding to Peter regarding Peter's inquisition of Judas.

Peter: Lord, who is the one who betrays You.
Peter seeing him (Judas the Betrayer), said to Jesus, 'But Lord, what about this man (Judas)?'

Jesus responded directly to Peter, regarding Judas: 'If I will that he remain till I come, what is that to you? You follow Me.'
I'm posting this in a simple English translation.
This first passage is the actual event the Last Supper, where John (the disciple Jesus loved) asks who will betray Jesus.




John 13
Jesus Predicts His Betrayal

18 “I am not saying these things to all of you; I know the ones I have chosen. But this fulfills the Scripture that says, ‘The one who eats my food has turned against me.’d 19 I tell you this beforehand, so that when it happens you will believe that I AM the Messiah.e 20 I tell you the truth, anyone who welcomes my messenger is welcoming me, and anyone who welcomes me is welcoming the Father who sent me.”
21 Now Jesus was deeply troubled,f and he exclaimed, “I tell you the truth, one of you will betray me!”

22 The disciples looked at each other, wondering whom he could mean. 23 The disciple Jesus loved was sitting next to Jesus at the table. 24 Simon Peter motioned to him to ask, “Who’s he talking about?” 25 So that disciple leaned over to Jesus and asked, “Lord, who is it?”




Okay?
JOHN, the disciple Jesus loved leaned over to Jesus and asked which of them would betray Him.

Clear? Read it until you see it.




Then, here is the Post Resurrection dialogue: again, between PETER and JESUS about JOHN (the disciple Jesus loved).

Jesus had just told Peter he would die the same way Jesus did (crucifixion). Peter, likely aghast upon learning of his fate, turned and saw John and asked, “What about him, Lord?

Jesus tells Peter that's not his concern, that if Jesus decided John would never die (until Jesus returned), that was up to Jesus: Peter was to follow Him (Jesus).





John 21 (NLT)
Peter was hurt that Jesus asked the question a third time. He said, “Lord, you know everything. You know that I love you.”

Jesus said, “Then feed my sheep.

18 “I tell you the truth, when you were young, you were able to do as you liked; you dressed yourself and went wherever you wanted to go. But when you are old, you will stretch out your hands, and othersf will dress you and take you where you don’t want to go.” 19 Jesus said this to let him know by what kind of death he would glorify God. Then Jesus told him, “Follow me.”

20 Peter turned around and saw behind them the disciple Jesus loved—the one who had leaned over to Jesus during supper and asked, “Lord, who will betray you?” 21 Peter asked Jesus, “What about him [JOHN], Lord?”

22 Jesus replied, “If I want him [JOHN] to remain alive until I return, what is that to you? As for you, follow me.” 23 So the rumor spread among the community of believers that this disciple [JOHN] wouldn’t die. But that isn’t what Jesus said at all. He only said, “If I want him [JOHN] to remain alive until I return, what is that to you?”

24 This disciple [JOHN] is the one who testifies to these events and has recorded them here. And we know that his account of these things is accurate.

25 Jesus also did many other things. If they were all written down, I suppose the whole world could not contain the books that would be written.

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John typically referred to himself in third person in his Gospel.



Is this clear now?
 
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GreenNnice

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I'm posting this in a simple English translation.
This first passage is the actual event the Last Supper, where John (the disciple Jesus loved) asks who will betray Jesus.




John 13
Jesus Predicts His Betrayal

18 “I am not saying these things to all of you; I know the ones I have chosen. But this fulfills the Scripture that says, ‘The one who eats my food has turned against me.’d 19 I tell you this beforehand, so that when it happens you will believe that I AM the Messiah.e 20 I tell you the truth, anyone who welcomes my messenger is welcoming me, and anyone who welcomes me is welcoming the Father who sent me.”
21 Now Jesus was deeply troubled,f and he exclaimed, “I tell you the truth, one of you will betray me!”

22 The disciples looked at each other, wondering whom he could mean. 23 The disciple Jesus loved was sitting next to Jesus at the table. 24 Simon Peter motioned to him to ask, “Who’s he talking about?” 25 So that disciple leaned over to Jesus and asked, “Lord, who is it?”




Okay?
JOHN, the disciple Jesus loved leaned over to Jesus and asked which of them would betray Him.

Clear? Read it until you see it.




Then, here is the Post Resurrection dialogue: again, between PETER and JESUS about JOHN (the disciple Jesus loved).

Jesus had just told Peter he would die the same way Jesus did (crucifixion). Peter, likely aghast upon learning of his fate, turned and saw John and asked, “What about him, Lord?

Jesus tells Peter that's not his concern, that if Jesus decided John would never die (until Jesus returned), that was up to Jesus: Peter was to follow Him (Jesus).





John 21 (NLT)
Peter was hurt that Jesus asked the question a third time. He said, “Lord, you know everything. You know that I love you.”

Jesus said, “Then feed my sheep.

18 “I tell you the truth, when you were young, you were able to do as you liked; you dressed yourself and went wherever you wanted to go. But when you are old, you will stretch out your hands, and othersf will dress you and take you where you don’t want to go.” 19 Jesus said this to let him know by what kind of death he would glorify God. Then Jesus told him, “Follow me.”

20 Peter turned around and saw behind them the disciple Jesus loved—the one who had leaned over to Jesus during supper and asked, “Lord, who will betray you?” 21 Peter asked Jesus, “What about him [JOHN], Lord?”

22 Jesus replied, “If I want him [JOHN] to remain alive until I return, what is that to you? As for you, follow me.” 23 So the rumor spread among the community of believers that this disciple [JOHN] wouldn’t die. But that isn’t what Jesus said at all. He only said, “If I want him [JOHN] to remain alive until I return, what is that to you?”

24 This disciple [JOHN] is the one who testifies to these events and has recorded them here. And we know that his account of these things is accurate.

25 Jesus also did many other things. If they were all written down, I suppose the whole world could not contain the books that would be written.

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John typically referred to himself in third person in his Gospel.



Is this clear now?
Doesn't matter who said what, Eddie, like I said a couple times now, the point remains the same: Eddie, don't worry about ANYONE else's walk , whether John gets to stay until Christ's return, or, Judas gets to still follow Jesus even though he betrayed Him (didn't David betray God and His 'adultery' word by sinning with Bathsheba, didn't Moses kill when, even tho 10 comm. not yet written Moses knew THAT bad, against God) . Don't worry, get over it , Jesus tells Peter...

Jesus: ”If I will that he remains, what is that to you.”


So, brace yourself and trust God when you regarding pastors who are preaching and teaching ALL over the USA and the world: ” Ed, be of good cheer, I have overcome the world, I will make these women pastors not preaching My Word understand Me. And, if I will that they remain pastoring, what is that to you, Ed?”

Eddie, I'm just following Him, the Lord leads, I assure you I have nothing but utmost respect and reverence for God's Word. I pray you see this clearly :)
 
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Bea22

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Doesn't matter who said what, Eddie, like I said a couple times now, the point remains the same: Eddie, don't worry about ANYONE else's walk , whether John gets to stay until Christ's return, or, Judas gets to still follow Jesus even though he betrayed Him (didn't David betray God and His 'adultery' word by sinning with Bathsheba, didn't Moses kill when, even tho 10 comm. not yet written Moses knew THAT bad, against God) . Don't worry, get over it , Jesus tells Peter...

Jesus: ”If I will that he remains, what is that to you.”


So, brace yourself and trust God when you regarding pastors who are preaching and teaching ALL over the USA and the world: ” Ed, be of good cheer, I have overcome the world, I will make these women pastors not preaching My Word understand Me. And, if I will that they remain pastoring, what is that to you, Ed?”

Eddie, I'm just following Him, the Lord leads, I assure you I have nothing but utmost respect and reverence for God's Word. I pray you see this clearly :)
Well, I understand what you are saying "Let them alone, the blind leadeth the blind..."

I just want to address some points you said earlier.
Firstly, In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God and the Word was God.

Tell me - What is the Word of God? Is it not God? Is it also the Bible? And Who was it that directed and led these writers of the books of the Bible to write what they wrote? And Who was it that came to Saul (Paul) when he was in the dust and asked him why he was persecuting Him? Who gave authority to Paul to write the words that he wrote - as shown in the opening verses of each book he wrote?

Secondly, what caused this 'rule' to come about, that women should not preach? God told Adam who told Eve that they shouldn't partake of the tree of knowledge of good and evil. What did Eve do? She listened to the serpent who said to her "Surely, God wouldn't mean that... surely it doesn't mean you will DIE. It just means that you will become wise." . In order for Eve to believe a lie, she had to discount the truth.
She - the woman - did eat and gave to Adam. That act brought the fall. That is explained in Paul's writings as being the reason why the man is the head of the woman and a woman is not to preach.

Thirdly, God didn't speak those Words so that one day, down the road - because the world is heading towards females being in power and getting rights and wanting to be everything including preachers - He may turn around and say "Actually, my first decision is incorrect and I now change my mind and allow women to preach." God's first decision is His best decision because He sees the end from the beginning.
When God says anything, it is to be followed and not to be reasoned out to mean something else. As I said before, in order to believe a lie, you must discount the truth - and read into scriptures the words "Women can preach."

Finally, God doesn't go against His own Word; He cannot tell a lie; He cannot change His mind; He is not the author of confusion; and because 'In the beginning ... the Word was God' ... God in the form of the Holy Spirit will not contradict Himself by what any man or woman - though genuine in their sincerity - may believe is 'okay' in this day and age.

In the end, He who wins this argument is He who has the last say. And coincidentally, He who has the last say is He who spake first.
 
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So, brace yourself and trust God when you regarding pastors who are preaching and teaching ALL over the USA and the world: ” Ed, be of good cheer, I have overcome the world, I will make these women pastors not preaching My Word understand Me. And, if I will that they remain pastoring, what is that to you, Ed?”

Eddie, I'm just following Him, the Lord leads, I assure you I have nothing but utmost respect and reverence for God's Word. I pray you see this clearly :)
No, I do not see that at all. I see irreverence and disregard for the scriptures.
Re-read your flippant (and hair-raising) mockery speaking as if you were Jesus; to justify something that is expressly forbidden.