Works and Salvation
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this promise?
[SUP]38 [/SUP]Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
[SUP]39 [/SUP]For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.
[SUP]38 [/SUP]Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
[SUP]39 [/SUP]For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.
Brother we are weak nothing we can do. All we need is have a faith/believe and ask Him to be our leader, Paul said I am die to myself. Mean he no longer the leader for his own life, he voluntarily surrender his life to the Lord. It is a grace that the Lord accept it.
to get in the vine is say yes to His calling./accept Him as you Lord and savior.
To made one with Christ is same above.
To die with Christ, I don't know what you mean, Buried with Christ is to submit to be baptize in those three name, Father, Son and Holy Spirit.
Than rise mean become like Him.
Water baptism not guaranty real baptism. You know a group of core leader in Vatican doing gang rape and murder a girl,
This group not only being baptized but I believe they have authority to baptize
You can buried you self to water baptism 100 below see level, as long as you not baptize/immerse in those three name, not doing any good, example those catholic core leader.
to get in the vine is say yes to His calling./accept Him as you Lord and savior.
To made one with Christ is same above.
To die with Christ, I don't know what you mean, Buried with Christ is to submit to be baptize in those three name, Father, Son and Holy Spirit.
Than rise mean become like Him.
Water baptism not guaranty real baptism. You know a group of core leader in Vatican doing gang rape and murder a girl,
This group not only being baptized but I believe they have authority to baptize
You can buried you self to water baptism 100 below see level, as long as you not baptize/immerse in those three name, not doing any good, example those catholic core leader.
you seem to be writing your own bible....this is the entrance into the kingdom...repent and be baptised for the remission of sins and you shall receive the gift of the HS...For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call..........you are saying Peter lied....I see a promise that is a guarantee...
it means in baptism the old man dies with Christ and the new man is risen with Christ by faith in the operation of God..
Romans 6:1-3King James Version (KJV)
6 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?
[SUP]2 [/SUP]God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?
[SUP]3 [/SUP]Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?
it means in baptism the old man dies with Christ and the new man is risen with Christ by faith in the operation of God..
Romans 6:1-3King James Version (KJV)
6 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?
[SUP]2 [/SUP]God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?
[SUP]3 [/SUP]Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?
how does one earn salvation? I believe this also....
Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
[SUP]39 [/SUP]For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.
Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
[SUP]39 [/SUP]For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.
but you said you believe in this promise...Has the word changed
[SUP]38 [/SUP]Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
[SUP]39 [/SUP]For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.
[SUP]38 [/SUP]Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
[SUP]39 [/SUP]For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.
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How does one work for salvation?
By getting baptised in water TO BE SAVED
By going to church TO BE SAVED
By giving to the poor TO BE SAVED.
by doing ANY work of righteousness TO BE SAVED.
Acts 2 does not say be baptised to be saved, it says because you were saved. But you refuse to see this, You place more work on NT believers than an OT believer ever had to do.
How does faith work?
Faith says I am a sinner, in a hopeless situation. Dead. God said he came a paid my debt. that if I trust him, he will save me from myself.
Faith says I trust him.
Faith also says the things I do are damaging to me and those around me, as God says, God says also that if we do this, we will be better off. Faith says I trust God so I will do them.
What does mere belief say?
It says I believe God, I think he did die for me, But I do not trust him. So I will do these works, and through these works, God will see my sincerity of wanting to please him, and save me, The problem is, he still has the sin issue, He is still dead, why? because he still does not have faith in God to save him completely. He thinks God needs his help. so he works hard to please God and in doing so, trusts self more than God.
repentance is a change of mind evident by a change of action
Matthew 21:28-30King James Version (KJV)
[SUP]28 [/SUP]But what think ye? A certain man had two sons; and he came to the first, and said, Son, go work to day in my vineyard.
[SUP]29 [/SUP]He answered and said, I will not: but afterward he repented, and went.
[SUP]30 [/SUP]And he came to the second, and said likewise. And he answered and said, I go, sir: and went not.
Matthew 21:28-30King James Version (KJV)
[SUP]28 [/SUP]But what think ye? A certain man had two sons; and he came to the first, and said, Son, go work to day in my vineyard.
[SUP]29 [/SUP]He answered and said, I will not: but afterward he repented, and went.
[SUP]30 [/SUP]And he came to the second, and said likewise. And he answered and said, I go, sir: and went not.
your faith say do nothing...because if you don't do them you think you will still be saved...
[SUP]18 [/SUP]Now in the morning as he returned into the city, he hungered.
[SUP]19 [/SUP]And when he saw a fig tree in the way, he came to it, and found nothing thereon, but leaves only, and said unto it, Let no fruit grow on thee henceforward for ever. And presently the fig tree withered away.
[SUP]20 [/SUP]And when the disciples saw it, they marvelled, saying, How soon is the fig tree withered away!
[SUP]21 [/SUP]Jesus answered and said unto them, Verily I say unto you, If ye have faith, and doubt not, ye shall not only do this which is done to the fig tree, but also if ye shall say unto this mountain, Be thou removed, and be thou cast into the sea; it shall be done.
[SUP]22 [/SUP]And all things, whatsoever ye shall ask in prayer, believing, ye shall receive.
look at this piece of garbage you posted saying God said.. where did God say that...?
[SUP]18 [/SUP]Now in the morning as he returned into the city, he hungered.
[SUP]19 [/SUP]And when he saw a fig tree in the way, he came to it, and found nothing thereon, but leaves only, and said unto it, Let no fruit grow on thee henceforward for ever. And presently the fig tree withered away.
[SUP]20 [/SUP]And when the disciples saw it, they marvelled, saying, How soon is the fig tree withered away!
[SUP]21 [/SUP]Jesus answered and said unto them, Verily I say unto you, If ye have faith, and doubt not, ye shall not only do this which is done to the fig tree, but also if ye shall say unto this mountain, Be thou removed, and be thou cast into the sea; it shall be done.
[SUP]22 [/SUP]And all things, whatsoever ye shall ask in prayer, believing, ye shall receive.
look at this piece of garbage you posted saying God said.. where did God say that...?
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first off dude, learn how to quote, if you mess up there is an edit button so you can correct your mistake.
Nope, I am saying get saved, because until then, YOU CAN DO NOTHING, and once you are saved, YOU WILL DO MUCH! Because you HAVE GODS POWER.
your still listening with blind eyes, you still do not know what I teach, because you to busy listening to men who tell yu what we believe.
we are NOT saying do nothing.
we are saying YOU CANT do anything UNTIL you get saved. THEN you will do ALOT. and the more you grow. the more you will do!
Nope, I am saying get saved, because until then, YOU CAN DO NOTHING, and once you are saved, YOU WILL DO MUCH! Because you HAVE GODS POWER.
your still listening with blind eyes, you still do not know what I teach, because you to busy listening to men who tell yu what we believe.
we are NOT saying do nothing.
we are saying YOU CANT do anything UNTIL you get saved. THEN you will do ALOT. and the more you grow. the more you will do!