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YESUAH DIED TO PAY MY SIN debt, THE sin that I had committed, The wages of braking GOD Commandments IS DEATH, So YESUAH TOOK MY place AND died for MY SINS, THAT I COULD REPENT, AND LIVE BY GOD'S COMMANDMENTS, and stay BECAUSE HE LOVED ME, And wanted me to be in HEAVEN,
So I LOVE HIM because he loved me and paid for MY SINS, THIS is the GRACE that YESUAH gives us,
YESUAH does not GIVE THE grace THAT lets us continue in sin and GO to HEAVEN, HEAVEN would end up
being just like this sinful Earth, And he is not going to allow that, That is why that he lets Satan try us to see if we love him, and will choose not to sin,
God hates Sin, and is GOING to DESTROY ALL OF IT, if we hold on to sin till we die, we will have sin on us , AND GOD WILL DESTROY US WITH THE SIN THAT WE DID NOT GIVE UP. We can not have our sin and HEAVEN TOO.
How long have you been perfect and sinless?
 
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How long have you been perfect and sinless?
YOU know, I do not see JOB saying that HE was perfect ether, BUT GOD SAID HE WAS, And that is all that will count, what any body thinks will not matter.
I will let you ask GOD that, GOD is still working on me anyway,
 

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YESUAH SAVES US FROM THE SINS that we have committed against GOD's commandments, SO we can keep GOD's commandments, AND stay clean, And if I do mass up and sin, I have advocate that I can go to, that he may stand in my place AGAIN
This would be another Gospel. You couldn't clean yourself up the first time ,so its silly to think you can do it after . Are you sealed by the Holy Spirit unto the day of redemption? Are you predestined to the Adoption . Rom 8.23 ? Eph 1 .5 .
How about this verse ? Rom 8 .

38For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,

39Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
 
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Like I said, there’s no grace in your theology.
HE died in my place THAT I can REPENT AND live, I think that IS 100,000,000 more Grace then you will ever give any body, AND even that is MORE GRACE then WE DESERVE, WE HAVE sinned and deserve death, BUT he give us the grace that we can repent and live, that is much more then we deserve,
 

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HE died in my place THAT I can REPENT AND live, I think that IS 100,000,000 more Grace then you will ever give any body, AND even that is MORE GRACE then WE DESERVE, WE HAVE sinned and deserve death, BUT he give us the grace that we can repent and live, that is much more then we deserve,
You have a snakes and ladders approach to the Gospel. Jesus just really placed you on ' START ' , now its up to you to try get to the end .
 

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WE NAME IS NOT YESUAH
13¶In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were SEALED with that holy Spirit of PROMISE

14Which is the EARNEST of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.
 
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You have a snakes and ladders approach to the Gospel. Jesus just really placed you on ' START ' , now its up to you to try get to the end .
No HE is a GREAT HIGH PREIST, THAT watches me and guide me with his all seeing eyes and his mighty hand sets up A way for me, and his WORD is A light that guides me out of the DARKNESS, THAT I might see the RIGHT way, PRAISE GOD, FOR ALL OF HIS MERCY AND GRATE GRACE, TO come and show me the way that I should WALK, Hallelujah to YESUAH
 

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HE died in my place THAT I can REPENT AND live, I think that IS 100,000,000 more Grace then you will ever give any body, AND even that is MORE GRACE then WE DESERVE, WE HAVE sinned and deserve death, BUT he give us the grace that we can repent and live, that is much more then we deserve,
Eph 1

5Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,

6To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved.

7¶In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace;

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7That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus.

8For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

9Not of works, lest any man should boast.

10For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
 

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No HE is a GREAT HIGH PREIST, THAT watches me and guide me with his all seeing eyes and his mighty hand sets up A way for me, and his WORD is A light that guides me out of the DARKNESS, THAT I might see the RIGHT way, PRAISE GOD, FOR ALL OF HIS MERCY AND GRATE GRACE, TO come and show me the way that I should WALK, Hallelujah to YESUAH
Are you not being presumptious according to your worldview / theology? You could fall away tomorrow. Or next week , maybe next year .What scripture do you point to that says you will be saved?It doesn't sound like your saved now ?
 
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Then why would he give eternal life to someone he knew would not in the end be saved?
Because HE IS JUST AND IS FAR WITH EVERY BODY, IT is also his promise to Cover our sins if we confess and repent. AND GOD dose HIS PART, THEN WE DIE DAILY TO SINS, OR choose to sin and fall it is our choice
 
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Because HE IS JUST AND IS FAR WITH EVERY BODY, IT is also his promise to Cover our sins if we confess and repent. AND GOD dose HIS PART, THEN WE DIE DAILY TO SINS, OR choose to sin and fall it is our choice
Then he should call it conditional life not eternal life
 
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YOU know, I do not see JOB saying that HE was perfect ether, BUT GOD SAID HE WAS, And that is all that will count, what any body thinks will not matter.
I will let you ask GOD that, GOD is still working on me anyway,
I did ask God and He responded quite adamantly by saying you’ve never been perfect, you’re not perfect now nor will you ever be perfect on this side of Heaven. But we already knew that.
 
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HE died in my place THAT I can REPENT AND live, I think that IS 100,000,000 more Grace then you will ever give any body, AND even that is MORE GRACE then WE DESERVE, WE HAVE sinned and deserve death, BUT he give us the grace that we can repent and live, that is much more then we deserve,
I thank God He is more gracious than I am.