Would you consider yourself conservative or liberal?

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Conservative or Liberal?

  • Conservative

    Votes: 5 29.4%

  • Liberal

    Votes: 6 35.3%

  • neither

    Votes: 3 17.6%

  • other

    Votes: 2 11.8%

  • unsure

    Votes: 1 5.9%
  • Total voters
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Elijah23

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I have recently been called both liberal and conservative.
 
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imoss said:
quite conservative.
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I don't know about that. Anyone that would isolate themselves in your neck of the woods with all that snow coming and rides a motorcycle can't be very conservative. Just kidding!

Why can't we be conservative as a believer and have the greatest liberty that anyone on earth can experience. Being set free from all the things that the world is in bondage to, isn't that the liberty that we have in Christ? We were there at one time but we are there no more and we look forward to the redemption of our bodies that will be glorified like unto His glorious body.

Liberty is being filled with the fruit of the Spirit, which is love, joy and peace just for starters. Against these things there is no law to keep us from them because we have them by faith and through the filling of the Spirit, that is within us. Where we go the Spirit goes and we are led of the Spirit, in the home, at work, on the road, in our prayer closet, with our family, with other believers, in times of distress, perplexity and when we are pressed on every side. We have the freedom to know that all things are of God and we are thankful in all those things and content with what we have received of God through grace.

Conservative because we can receive from God by faith and liberated because we can freely give what we have received / Rom 8:32, Mt 10:8.
 
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LOL shad, I suppose its hard to imagine someone who enjoys the wind in the hair being conservative! The social credit party sent me to meet lady di & prince charles in 86 as I WAS their youth group & they were the conservative option at the time. (i was 16) I've always had pretty conservative views for myself though & never wore low cut clothing or got tatoo's stuff like that... even when i was an unsaved heathen lol! my mouth, however was not so conservative... I could out swear a trucker I'm sure. I would also wear shorts though so i suppose i'm not totally conservative!!! Maybe I just feel ultra conservative in thought cause I'm surrounded by liberal folk! to a true deep rooted conservative i'd probably be a little too liberal! I love the Lord and whats awesome is when I ride my motorcycle I feel a freedom from all that concerns me and spend much of the ride praising God for the beauty of his gifts as I smell the smells, feel the wind in my face and bask in the beauty of our area. Politically I tend to agree with the conservative views.
 
Elijah23

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imoss said:
quite conservative.
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You’re not really conservative unless you have at least one portrait of Calvin Coolidge displayed prominently in you home.
 
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in a rustic wooden frame... lol! I'm canadian eh.
 
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in a rustic wooden frame... lol! I'm canadian eh.
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Such a striking resemblance! My mom was Canandian French (a canuck) and grew up in a 'frenchytown' community in the vacationland state of Maine. She was a great mom and I miss her much. She was a catholic and was led to the Lord first, right in our home by her hairdresser. She prayed fervently for the rest of us and one by one we came to Christ. She sent me to a Bible School and paid for the whole thing so I could study and be involved without having to work. That was a great blessing for sure. I made myself available 24/7 for about 10 years and learned so much in the word of God. The only way that God's word can get worked in is through applying it by faith in our experience and through trials that God works in through His plan. In Ps 12:6 the word is tried and purified seven times. As a novice is was easy to think we understand because we have good knowledge, but if it is not tried we can fall into pride and the condemnation of the devil / 1Tim 3:6. It is the young man's pitfall that God uses to crush us and get us to trust Him and stop leaning on our own understanding.

These are great days to be alive and better days to look forward to, only because of grace and mercy and the return of Christ. In Rev 22 the Lord says three times, 'I come quickly'.
 
superdave5221

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Taelin said:
Can someone maybe explain the two different sides? For clueless people like me! :D
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Hey Taelin, Conservative Christians follow the pattern (tupos) set up by the original Apostles to be followed in the church. Of course being conservative or liberal is not eithor/or. There are certainly levels or degrees of conservatism/liberalism. A hard line conservative would be expected to:

1. Be baptised by immersion.
2. His church would be self autonomous.
3. The Lord's supper would be at regular frequencies, at least once a week on the Lord's day.
4. The Lord's supper would use the fruit of the vine, either grape juice or wine.
5. The elders in the church would be the authoritative body and would meet the qualifications set forth in Paul's letters to Timothy, recognizing always that Christ is the head of the church.
6. Worship singing would be a capella.
7. Church members would definitely believe in Sola Scriptura (Bible) as the infallable, indisputable, word of God.
8. Church members would believe in the unity of faith.
9. Church members would believe in the New Covenant between God and each individual member of Christ's church as disctinct from the Old Covenant that existed between God and the Jewish Nation.
10. Church members would believe in individual responsibility for sins and a personal relationship with God that needs no intermediaries.
11. The work of the church would include all of the following:
a. evangelism, i.e. The Great Commission
b. edification
c. relief for those in need
d. discipline and restitution

Note: The above is for religious purposes and has no bearing on politics, which is another issue altogether.
 
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Since when are conservatives Christians?
 
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watchmen

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tryingtofindhim said:
What's so bad with a Christ being liberal?
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Liberals believe everything to be permissable. This is not what God thinks. Christians should form their world view from scripture. Someone who has a biblical world view would not be liberal.
 
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tryingtofindhim said:
Being that Bush is a conservative and not a Christian, I would disagree. So what are you saying about liberals? Just wondering
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who said that Bush was not a Christian?? to claim to be a liberal cHRISTIAN HOW CAN YOU EVEN THINK THAT SOMEONE WITH THE MORAL VALUES AS BUSH NOT A cHRISTIAN


Ro 12:1I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service.Ro 12:2And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.
 
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who said that Bush was not a Christian?? to claim to be a liberal cHRISTIAN HOW CAN YOU EVEN THINK THAT SOMEONE WITH THE MORAL VALUES AS BUSH NOT A cHRISTIAN


Ro 12:1I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service.Ro 12:2And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.
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NO, need to yell. I don't think he is, but who am I to judge. I just think his actions prove otherwise, or he could just be a backslidden Christian.
 
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songster said:
I am curious, as to what a liberal christian believes. Please explain.
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Since I'm young, I don't know everything, but I do know this: I support gay marriage, I don't agree with abortion but I believe its the persons choice, I'm against the death penalty, I'm totally for the separation of church and state. I believe religion should be kept out of the government.
I guess I'm kind of conservative also because I am for the war, against illegal immigration and also believe in the right for anyone to carry arms.
(sorry for the crappy grammar)
If anyone wants to ask about these, I don't mind, but please don't be belligerent towards me. Thanks!
 
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tryingtofindhim said:
Since I'm young, I don't know everything, but I do know this: I support gay marriage, I don't agree with abortion but I believe its the persons choice, I'm against the death penalty, I'm totally for the separation of church and state. I believe religion should be kept out of the government.
I guess I'm kind of conservative also because I am for the war, against illegal immigration and also believe in the right for anyone to carry arms.
(sorry for the crappy grammar)
If anyone wants to ask about these, I don't mind, but please don't be belligerent towards me. Thanks!
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And you believe you are a christian? Christians do not support gay marriage, nor do they think people have the right to choose whether or not they will murder their children ect.... The separation of church and state in the way we now know is not what it was intended to be and was created by anti christian radical. To believe religion or christianity should be kept out of government goes directly against scripture and what go0verment is meant for. You are a liberal indeed, but I would have to question whether or not you are truly following Christ.
 
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And you believe you are a christian? Christians do not support gay marriage, nor do they think people have the right to choose whether or not they will murder their children ect.... The separation of church and state in the way we now know is not what it was intended to be and was created by anti christian radical. To believe religion or christianity should be kept out of government goes directly against scripture and what go0verment is meant for. You are a liberal indeed, but I would have to question whether or not you are truly following Christ.
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Well, I like to think about other people other than Christians. Gay marriage is fine for non-Christians. I might rethink the abortion thing; I'm not sure yet. Other people who aren't Christians should have a voice in the government. Why should Christianity be in the government ;its not necessary since America isn't a Christian nation. Judge me if you want; I don't care. I know my heart. :)
 
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