YOUR SINS ARE NOT BEING RECORDED

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I have heard all kinds of different people say those things......it's a religious mindset that doesn't see the difference between the Old Covenant and the New Covenant.....nor the difference between the believer in Christ and the un-believer.

They are mixing the covenants up and have little understanding of the new creation in Christ now. But all that is changing...thank God!
What is the difference between the GOD of the old covenant and the GOD of the new covenant?
 
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Amen.....God does not change......but "our" perception of Him will be different as we get the progressive revelation of God from the OT to the New Covenant through Jesus as He reveals Him as Father to us.

Jesus is perfect theology:

Jesus is the exact representation of the Father's true heart and nature. Jesus said no one knows my Father.

So, whatever understanding of God "we" got from the OT and the Old Covenant that doesn't line up with Jesus' manifestation of the Father will be inaccurate.

Hebrews 1:1-3 (NASB)
[SUP]1 [/SUP] God, after He spoke long ago to the fathers in the prophets in many portions and in many ways,

[SUP]2 [/SUP] in these last days has spoken to us in His Son, whom He appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the world.

[SUP]3 [/SUP] And He is the radiance of His glory and the exact representation of His nature, and upholds all things by the word of His power. When He had made purification of sins, He sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high,
 
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So, whatever understanding of God "we" got from the OT and the Old Covenant that doesn't line up with Jesus' manifestation of the Father will be inaccurate.

Jesus revealed the way the father wants us to pray to him (Matthew 6:9-15), yet you have promoted teachers that say those verses are an old covenant prayer that is not meant for new covenant believers. So in essence this is a rejection of Jesus' revelation of the father.
 
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Jesus revealed the way the father wants us to pray to him (Matthew 6:9-15), yet you have promoted teachers that say those verses are an old covenant prayer that is not meant for new covenant believers. So in essence this is a rejection of Jesus' revelation of the father.
The Cross changed everything.
 
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.............Oh brother ..here we go again... all this has been answered before..you don't have to like the answers even though we have given them to you over 30x times......:),...you will just have to find other people to "bait".....I'm off this merry go-round......God bless you!..I pray you find the heart and grace of Christ for you. He loves you dearly!


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The Cross changed everything.
Amen!..Jesus revealed what happened at the cross and the resurrection to Paul like no other Christian knew at the time. Peter himself said that Paul had some deep things to say that were hard to understand but still to Peter they were scripture. The disciples were told 17 times Jesus was going to die and they still didn't understand what He was saying.

We have the 20/20 hindsight of having all the scriptures in front of us now to see the progressive revelation of what our Lord Jesus did in His finished work on our behalf. Jesus by the Holy Spirit within us is still showing us the true heart and grace of the Father toward us.
 
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My fellow grace believers on CC:

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Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them." Rom 16:17

 
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If you are forgiven of your sins,then there is no sins in your life,and the slate is wiped clean,so for the sins that the saints did are gone,and nothing to be brought up,for Jesus is only judging the saints according how they labored for the kingdom of God,which the Bible says if their works lacked,they will suffer loss,but they will be saved from the fire.

The world that has sin,when they are judged,God does not necessarily have to bring up any sins,unless they try to deny something,but they have sinned so many times during the course of their life time,I cannot think they would deny anything,for it only takes one sin not forgiven to condemn them,for the Bible says if you break the least moral law,then you broke the whole of the law.

They will probably say things like I did not have enough proof to believe in you,or I was not that bad but only committed minor sins,or I believed you existed but they did not believe according to the truth,or I did good deeds.

But I doubt the world at judgment day will even try to deny sins,for they know they have done wrong,but in their defense before God,they might point out all the good things they have done in hopes that God will change His mind and say,alright you were not that bad,and had somewhat love towards people,and they could be saved.

That is what the hypocrites will do at judgment day,they will point out all the good things they have done for the kingdom,but if they stopped allowing the Spirit to lead them in their walk with God,and died not being in the Spirit,all the good deeds does not matter.

That is probably how the world will present their case before God,not by denying sins,but by pointing out all the good deeds they have done.

As far as a big screen to show the world any sins,it is unnecessary,for everything we have done it would seem that it would be all recorded on our brain,and even though we forgot some things,it is still recorded on our brain.

That way they cannot say,I did not do that,for it is on their own brain,or so it would seem.
 
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I've always thought it was odd when pastors would teach out of both sides of their mouth, 'your sins are tossed into the sea of forgetfulness, and God placed a sign on the beach NO FISHING!' Now don't get to happy with a joyful tear in your eye. Brace yourself!
Then out of the other side of their mouth they say 'Your going to have to stand before God one day in the judgement and (here's where their voice gets real loud and guttural) AND GIVE AN ACCOUNTING for every sin, every thought, every move, before (Right here gets real loud again) GOD and all the saints and Angels. His tribunal with the spotlight on you!' (You miserable worm you!)

How many of you have taken note of this? Precious isn't it?

Yes, that is so true and used to frustrate the daylights out of me. That is why I would not go to a church that preaches like that. Not all are like that Yet. I'm more convinced than ever that being in a fellowship with other saints is vital to our spiritual health. We need each other. Although I believe as you do there is a time and place to be apart for a while.

Sometimes being on a sort of Moses desert trip is needed so He can cement our own relationship with Himself and us so we know what we believe without the discouragement of negative people stopping that personal relationship from growing. But then we have to go back! He has even better things for us a head.
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You sin our wash away in the blood of the lamb.
 
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Amen.....God does not change......but "our" perception of Him will be different as we get the progressive revelation of God from the OT to the New Covenant through Jesus as He reveals Him as Father to us.

Jesus is perfect theology:

Jesus is the exact representation of the Father's true heart and nature. Jesus said no one knows my Father.

So, whatever understanding of God "we" got from the OT and the Old Covenant that doesn't line up with Jesus' manifestation of the Father will be inaccurate.

Hebrews 1:1-3 (NASB)
[SUP]1 [/SUP] God, after He spoke long ago to the fathers in the prophets in many portions and in many ways,

[SUP]2 [/SUP] in these last days has spoken to us in His Son, whom He appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the world.

[SUP]3 [/SUP] And He is the radiance of His glory and the exact representation of His nature, and upholds all things by the word of His power. When He had made purification of sins, He sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high,


Amen Amen Amen!!
 
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That is a major and common question about God and how harsh He seemed in the OT. Why they had to have the blood of bulls and goats and other animals to pay for their sin and we don't today. Different covenants but same God.

We all have to find out what is required in THIS new covenant of Grace. Many Christians don't even know they are in a new covenant. No one ever told me! Many believers are new covenant saints living under the old covenant of law trying to do what has already been done for them by Jesus Christ.

And because they are trying to live under an old covenant that has been done away with, they are not and can't do what is required to see God's blessings in their lives TODAY. So they are not seeing results in their Christian lives either and can't understand why.

Trying to do good works to gain favor and blessing from God is ignoring the New covenant of grace where Jesus Christ did all that is required. For salvation and redemption and sanctification. We work to rest in what Jesus did and cease from our works to be good enough. When we believe Christ is our life, Christ is our redemption, Christ is our sanctification., we honor the new covenant because we honor the Son.
 
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Here's a Scripture verse:

"For I am the LORD, I change not..." Malachi 3:6a
Which refers to God's unchanging nature. He's God. He's perfect. He has no need to change.

What it doesn't mean is that God is locked into always acting and relating to man as He has in the past. That He can never do a new thing. Which is the way that we see it so often being used, especially by those who are advocates for the continued application of old covenant concepts and principles upon Christians.

Otherwise He could never have done the "new and better things" referred to in the book of Hebrews, providing the "new and living way" (Heb. 10:20) in the "new covenant" (Heb. 9:15). And in Corinthians, "Therefore if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creature; the old things passed away; behold, new things have come." (2 Cor. 5:17)
 
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Which refers to God's unchanging nature. He's God. He's perfect. He has no need to change.

What it doesn't mean is that God is locked into always acting and relating to man as He has in the past. That He can never do a new thing. Which is the way that we see it so often being used, especially by those who are advocates for the continued application of old covenant concepts and principles upon Christians.

Otherwise He could never have done the "new and better things" referred to in the book of Hebrews, providing the "new and living way" (Heb. 10:20) in the "new covenant" (Heb. 9:15). And in Corinthians, "Therefore if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creature; the old things passed away; behold, new things have come." (2 Cor. 5:17)
I completely agree with you! The nature of God will never change, the way He has dealt with man in terms of covenants does change. For example, The animal sacrifices in the OT were insufficient for they could not take sin away(Heb 10:11), for there was a rememberance of sin each year(Heb 10:3). Christ came to put away sin by the sacrifice of Himself(Heb 9:26).

I really like Hebrews, which explains "the better way" in Christ, showing what the OT sacrificial system under the law of Moses pointed to!