Summary of Bible references on the Rapture

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Bible References in this Blog (so far)

Entire Book

1Samuel

2Corinthians

Joel

Jonah

Luke

Esther

Galatians

1Peter

Amos

James

Ephesians

2Samuel

Philippians

Habakkuk

Colossians

Hebrews 1, 2, 3 (the rest of the book will be posted shortly)



Chapters

Revelation 2-3, 5, 6

Isaiah 5, 13, 54, 60

Hebrews 10:25

Proverbs 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17

Psalm 2, 10, 12, 37, 40, 41, 113, 118

Exodus 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15

Acts 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11

1Kings 1,

1Timothy 3, 4

2Timothy 3

John 14, 15, 16, 17,

2Peter 2,

Matthew 24

Joshua 2, 3, 4,

Daniel 5

Genesis 49


Key Topics

The fifth seal

The second Passover

The Feast of unleavened bread
 

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Proverbs 17:6-13 Gaslighting, continued.

6 Children’s children are a crown to the aged, and parents are the pride of their children.

A peace treaty with Israel, a successful economy, a successful trade agreement, better border security and three pro life judges. These are the “children” of the last administration. It is their crown. The people who showed pride in Trump were accused of being cultic. Again, it was gaslighting because what were Biden’s children? He put forth the crime bill, worst bill for the inner city ever by a wide margin. He was against integration of the schools. He gave the eulogy at the most prominent KKK member in the US senate. Kamala Harris is the direct descendant of a slave holder.

7 Eloquent lips are unsuited to a godless fool— how much worse lying lips to a ruler!

Gaslighting is the equivalent of lying lips to a ruler. In order to gaslight you have to be in charge. You have to be able to withhold information, counter information, discount information, speak abusively and derisively. Damage their self esteem, mock the victims, trivialize what happened, etc. For example Schwarzneggar likened to the riot at the Capitol to the night of broken glass. The night of broken glass was when the Nazi government falsely accused a “common man” of a crime that they themselves had perpetrated and then used that excuse to go on a rampage against Jewish businesses, breaking their storefront windows. In this analogy the leaders of the US government who were “outraged” at what took place would be equivalent to the Nazi’s and their use of this as an excuse to go after all those appealing for justice would be equivalent to the Nazi’s going after the Jews. The night of broken glass was an example of gaslighting. Was Schwarznegger trying to tip us off to this without getting attacked by those in power, or was it a false comparison? Hard to say.

8 A bribe is seen as a charm by the one who gives it; they think success will come at every turn.

The Tech giants provided hundreds of millions of dollars in bribes to swing the election. They were like snake charmers thinking they could create an alternate reality. Gaslighting may be done by those in charge but it is paid for with bribes. However, look at how arrogant they are. They think they can cancel their biggest and best accounts. Without a doubt Trump and the thousands of accounts that have been suspended or permanently removed from Twitter and Facebook were the most active. They involve a hundred million subscribers who actively viewed and retweeted the posts. That is 50% of Twitters users. You have to be very arrogant to think you can kick 50% of your customers out. Look at the big box stores who are kicking Mike Lindell’s pillows out of their stores. These companies are on the brink of collapse with the pandemic and people avoiding malls. They will now, on top of everything else, incur a loss of 50% of their customers. This is just idiotic. AOC calls people to cancel Goya and the next month Goya names her the #1 salesperson.

9 Whoever would foster love covers over an offense, but whoever repeats the matter separates close friends.

We have watched this for many years now. The reporting of the “news” is no longer a fair accounting of all the news that’s fit to print. No, now it is all the stories that can “separate close friends”. Stories are pretend with innuendo, and design so that people would believe the worst and assume the worst. For three months we heard that Trump would use the military to prevent Biden from taking office. It was horrific. He incited violence by telling people to peacefully make their voices heard. He was in the oval office plotting insurrection. Now that this has been shown to be completely false do they apologize, do they hold the people who had an agenda to stir up the American people with these stories accountable? Nope.

10 A rebuke impresses a discerning person more than a hundred lashes a fool.

What is happening in this country is a rebuke to the Christians. We allowed this. It didn’t happen overnight. We slept while this crept in.

11 Evildoers foster rebellion against God; the messenger of death will be sent against them.

Make no mistake, what is going on is rebellion against God. It is not about Trump, it is not about Republicans. This is all about people who are pro life, pro Bible, pro God, pro worship, pro Church. The messenger of death was sent to Pharaoh at the Passover. Today the Pandemic is the "messenger of death". The evidence is coming in that this pandemic was created in a bioweapons lab in Wuhan with one overarching goal in mind: give the crooks power. By destroying the world's economy it was the only way they would defeat Trump during the election. Creating a pandemic passport will increase their ability to track every person on this planet. They may have already had this power but it couldn't be used in court, the passport can.

12 Better to meet a bear robbed of her cubs than a fool bent on folly.

Listen to the Left after their “election victory”. Openly proclaiming the need for black lists, to make sure no one who supported the other candidate ever works again, doxing people, calling for reeducation camps, censorship and book burning. These are fools bent on folly.

13 Evil will never leave the house of one who pays back evil for good.

I think the whole country realizes this second impeachment is just despicable and in their heart they know that doing this is not the end, it is the beginning. Evil will never leave the house after this.
 

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Proverbs 17:14-26 Gaslighting part 3

14 Starting a quarrel is like breaching a dam; so drop the matter before a dispute breaks out.

What do we mean “pay back evil for good”. Biden was confirmed despite lots of evidence and lots of appeals for an audit of the election. All the appeals were ignored and denied. This was like a dam full of offenses, but the people were orderly, respectful and law abiding. But you don’t stop there, you now want to remove Trump from office on January 25th? He left office five days ago? You are accusing him of inciting a riot on January 6th by his speech even though the evidence is overwhelming that the people who breached the capitol arrived before Trump began speaking and that they had planned this for the previous five days. Yet you want to start a quarrel with the impeachment? You are like an idiot dynamiting a dam.

15 Acquitting the guilty and condemning the innocent—the Lord detests them both.

We have seen both. The best example is the first impeachment. Why did they impeach Trump? He called the Ukraine about investigating possible corruption by the company that Hunter Biden served on the Board. According to the law the president is obligated to do this since they were the recipients of foreign aid from the US. The trial proved he was innocent. However, at the time of the trial the FBI had a laptop belonging to Hunter that proved he was guilty of corruption. Has the FBI been brought to justice? No. Hunter Biden is being acquitted by the media and Trump was condemned.

16 Why should fools have money in hand to buy wisdom, when they are not able to understand it?

There are five tech giants who have acted like fools. Amazon.com, Apple, Google, Twitter and Facebook. They have money, lots of it, yet they have completely acted like fools and will cause their own demise. Why? This is just what Caleb said, “these giants are our food”. Their foolishness opens the door for competitors like Parler and Rumble to take their place. As they go bankrupt they’ll have to sell off assets at a significant discount, again “our food”. Don't forget, the definition of a fool is someone who does not fear God.

17 A friend loves at all times, and a brother is born for a time of adversity.

I have seen Mike Lindell attacked by this cancel culture and people around the country respond, like his brother, born for adversity. As they cut off his ability to sell in stores they have gone to the internet and swamped him with orders. His business will thrive while all those companies that kicked him out will ultimately go bankrupt. Then Mike Lindell will replace “Bed Bath and Beyond” with “My Pillow”. They are his food.

18 One who has no sense shakes hands in pledge and puts up security for a neighbor.

Get rid of the legal protection of the tech giants from liability. You have no sense allowing Iran, ISIS and pedophiles to post on these platforms and the companies have no liability. They can censor whatever they want and they have no liability.

19 Whoever loves a quarrel loves sin; whoever builds a high gate invites destruction.

It is stunning to me the provocative things that are said to invite a quarrel. Generally an outrageous comment that we might have expected once a year from some radical nut job, now we get them every day from elected officials. They liken 75 million Americans that voted for the Republican presidential candidate to “ISIS”? They call them “domestic terrorists”. This can only mean they love a quarrel. The tech giants have built a high gate trying to destroy any business other than their little club. They are inviting destruction. The entire world sees what they are doing and is trying to get out of their prison.

20 One whose heart is corrupt does not prosper; one whose tongue is perverse falls into trouble.

Twitter has recently been sued for violating laws about child pornography. I read the lawsuit today and it shows a company that is corrupt and perverse.

21 To have a fool for a child brings grief; there is no joy for the parent of a godless fool.

Imagine you were an investor in one of these tech giants, perhaps a fund manager or a pension manager. As you watch their downfall it will bring you grief. There is no joy in watching their self destruction.

22 A cheerful heart is good medicine, but a crushed spirit dries up the bones. 23 The wicked accept bribes in secret to pervert the course of justice.

Facebook paid $400 million in bribes to election officials to pervert the course of justice during the election.

24 A discerning person keeps wisdom in view, but a fool’s eyes wander to the ends of the earth.

Stay focused on the key issues. The first and second amendments are key issues, the constitution is a key issue. Donald Trump is not a key issue, that is a distraction. A shaman with horns in the capitol building is not the key issue, that is a distraction. Why did Pelosi put 25,000 troops in Washington DC and lock down the city? That is a key issue. Mike Lindell, the My Pillow guy was seen with a flyer about insurrection, that is a distraction. Trump is plotting insurrection. Really? He left office almost three months ago, how long will you allow them to distract you with lies?

25 A foolish son brings grief to his father and bitterness to the mother who bore him.

Everything this chapter talks about is referring to a “foolish son” of the republic. They are bringing grief to the Father’s of this nation. They are bitterness to the American people. Biden made 11 major lies when talking about his orders to infringe on the rights of Americans to bear arms. This is a critical battlefield because you cannot protect the first amendment if you don't have the second amendment.

26 If imposing a fine on the innocent is not good, surely to flog honest officials is not right.

We see this as well. Honest officials who stood up for righteousness, and now they want them removed from office, they threaten their families, they “flog them on the Main Stream media”. CNN recently posted a video attempting to smear Governor Desantis. They edited out key portions of the video to make him look bad.
 

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Proverbs 17:27-28 Words of restraint and understanding

27 The one who has knowledge uses words with restraint, and whoever has understanding is even-tempered.

So these ones who are not restrained, they apparently do not have knowledge. Likening the protestors on January 6 to Nazi’s, likening Republican voters to ISIS. There is no restraint in that speech. They are trying to create an alternate reality, but this will now collapse. They are in power, they control the legislative and executive branches of government. They will own everything that they do and those who chose a house full of feasting with strife, they will regret what they have chosen.

But what about us? Use words of restraint, don't get riled up and accuse of others of all kinds of things. They may just be asleep, occupied with other things, and not paying attention. Know this, Facebook is well connected to the Biden administration and they definitely want to round up people and punish them for disagreeing with them. One man posted something on Facebook where he disagreed with something AOC said and the police came and knocked on his door to question him. Georgia passed election integrity laws that will make it harder to steal the next election, they punished them by pulling the All Star game, that could easily cost them $100 million in lost business. The goal is to open people's eyes without giving an excuse for those who are foaming at the mouth to bite you.

28 Even fools are thought wise if they keep silent, and discerning if they hold their tongues.

Be careful what you post online. Be prudent, be wise, but don’t be a coward. Don’t be disgraceful. Don’t be spineless. Walk the narrow path that leads to life.
 

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Hebrews 4 -- Apart from Jesus we can do nothing

Therefore, since the promise of entering his rest still stands, let us be careful that none of you be found to have fallen short of it.

There is going to be a rapture where some will enter into this promised rest. At that time some will be found to have fallen short of that rapture. So then let us be careful. We need to tie our thoughts to Jesus, tie our boat to Jesus.

2 For we also have had the good news proclaimed to us, just as they did; but the message they heard was of no value to them, because they did not share the faith of those who obeyed.

It is not sufficient to have heard and received the gospel. True, if you receive the Lord’s salvation you receive eternal life, but that doesn’t mean you have entered into this promised rest. Everyone in the wilderness had also received this salvation having partaken of the Passover lamb and having crossed the Red Sea. What they needed was to share the faith of those who obeyed. Joshua and Caleb shared the faith of Moses. They entered into the promised rest.

3 Now we who have believed enter that rest, just as God has said, “So I declared on oath in my anger, ‘They shall never enter my rest.’”

Look at the path the Lord took us on. If God had made us kings immediately we would be like the arrogant, the elites, with little sense of justice or compassion. No, first we had to be the slaves at the bottom of society so we could understand how to truly rule. We needed to see how the corruption and lies of the elites impact the poor. But the problem with that is many have the mentality of a slave. We need a new heart of flesh and we need our mind renewed by the Lord of all. You don’t need to fight to be a slave, just surrender. But to rule and reign with Jesus requires that we stand with Him on the battlefield.

And yet his works have been finished since the creation of the world. 4 For somewhere he has spoken about the seventh day in these words: “On the seventh day God rested from all his works.” 5 And again in the passage above he says, “They shall never enter my rest.”

You can’t enter into His rest if you can’t do all His works. You need to do a work of faith before you can enter into the promised rest.

6 Therefore since it still remains for some to enter that rest, and since those who formerly had the good news proclaimed to them did not go in because of their disobedience, 7 God again set a certain day, calling it “Today.” This he did when a long time later he spoke through David, as in the passage already quoted: “Today, if you hear his voice, do not harden your hearts.”

The Lord gives the command, you obey and follow Him, that is the work you must do, and the work you can only do if you have mixed faith with your obedience. The reason some harden their hearts and refuse to obey is because they don’t have faith.

8 For if Joshua had given them rest, God would not have spoken later about another day. 9 There remains, then, a Sabbath-rest for the people of God; 10 for anyone who enters God’s rest also rests from their works, just as God did from his. 11 Let us, therefore, make every effort to enter that rest, so that no one will perish by following their example of disobedience.

We are doing a work of faith so that we can enter that rest. This is the church age, we are building the Body of Christ with gold, silver and precious stones. This warning is about disobedience, the Lord will speak to us, it will be difficult for us to obey, it will require faith, it will require us knowing the voice of our shepherd.

12 For the word of God is alive and active. Sharper than any double-edged sword, it penetrates even to dividing soul and spirit, joints and marrow; it judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart. 13 Nothing in all creation is hidden from God’s sight. Everything is uncovered and laid bare before the eyes of him to whom we must give account.

The word of God is a light to our path, it is also a light that examines our innermost spirit and soul. This word judges our thoughts and attitudes. No one and nothing is hidden from this light.

14 Therefore, since we have a great high priest who has ascended into heaven, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold firmly to the faith we profess. 15 For we do not have a high priest who is unable to empathize with our weaknesses, but we have one who has been tempted in every way, just as we are—yet he did not sin. 16 Let us then approach God’s throne of grace with confidence, so that we may receive mercy and find grace to help us in our time of need.

The Lord is superior in every way. We have someone who will go with us and help us along the way.
 

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Jeremiah 4:1-9 -- What to do if you are left behind

The Lord said that no one knows the day or the hour, many believers take that to mean that we can ignore this since no one knows the day or the hour. However, the Lord says that because you don't know the day or the hour you need to watch and he gives three illustrations: a pregnant woman, a farmer prior to the harvest, and the bride in a Jewish wedding. A pregnant woman does not know the day or the hour that she will give birth, therefore she needs to watch. She should be going to the doctor, arranging for the birth, planning, etc. A woman who did not do this would be considered a very irresponsible mother. Second, a farmer does not know the day or the hour that they will reap the harvest. As a result he must carefully inspect his crops everyday while also watching the weather report and preparing. He might need to rent harvesters and hire extra laborers. Finally, the bride in a Jewish wedding doesn't know the day or the hour, her betrothed is building a house (or spare room) for them to live in. He needs to prepare that before he can come and take the bride. But just because she doesn't know the day or the hour doesn't mean she can't visit him with lemonade or a sandwich while he works and see for herself. She can get a very good idea of when it will be finished if she is visiting him regularly. If your bride didn't care enough to do that you would think she really doesn't love you or care about you.

1 “If you, Israel, will return, then return to me,” declares the Lord. “If you put your detestable idols out of my sight and no longer go astray,

Many want to know what they should be doing to prepare to meet God. First, get rid of the detestable idols. I discussed this a little when I talked about the frogs in Exodus 8. Also, know that money is a “graven image”. It is made out of wood (paper money) and it is a molten image (coins). This call to return or to repent is how the Gospel of Mark begins. The thought is that Luke presents the gospel to those who are taken prior to the tribulation and Mark presents the gospel to those who are left behind.

2 and if in a truthful, just and righteous way you swear, ‘As surely as the Lord lives,’ then the nations will invoke blessings by him and in him they will boast.”

Walk according to the truth (word of God), in a just and righteous way (the Lord’s commandment to do unto others as you would have them do unto you). Boast in the Lord, rejoice in Him, praise Him, testify of His goodness.

3 This is what the Lord says to the people of Judah and to Jerusalem: “Break up your unplowed ground and do not sow among thorns. In the gospels the Lord let us know He was talking about our heart. If our heart is consumed with the world it is like thorns choking the word of God. Do not sow the word of God among the thorns. 4 Circumcise yourselves to the Lord, circumcise your hearts, you people of Judah and inhabitants of Jerusalem, or my wrath will flare up and burn like fire because of the evil you have done—burn with no one to quench it.

I talk about circumcision in the posts concerning the book of Galatians. Circumcision was the sign that we have a covenant with God. A wedding ring signifies you have a marriage covenant, circumcision signifies we have a covenant with God. In the New Testament the cross of Christ is the sign that we have a covenant with God, it is the New Testament “circumcision” and it is on our hearts. You need to apply the cross of Christ to your hearts or you will invoke the wrath of God.

5 “Announce in Judah and proclaim in Jerusalem and say: ‘Sound the trumpet throughout the land!’ Cry aloud and say: ‘Gather together! Let us flee to the fortified cities!’ 6 Raise the signal to go to Zion! Flee for safety without delay! For I am bringing disaster from the north, even terrible destruction.”

There are two possible references here. We know that the high holy days are a shadow of things to come, that the first four feasts were key events in the beginning of this age (Passover -- crucifixion of Jesus, Feast of unleavened bread -- burial of Jesus, Feast of the first fruits -- resurrection of Jesus, and Pentecost -- birth of the church). The sound of the trumpet can be both an alarm and a sound of rejoicing. The idea is that at the rapture it will be a sound of rejoicing for those who are raptured, whereas for those who are left behind it will be a sound of alarm. This chapter is dealing with those who are left behind. This isn't a reference to the pandemic, this is a reference to the need to flee. After the first rapture you will have chaos, anarchy. In a situation like that it will be much scarier than it is today. Already we can see videos in large cities that are scary, imagine if you remove all those Christians who would step into the gap to help someone being attacked. Right now the evil and wicked are outnumbered and are scared of the light. After the first rapture that will change. If you can't see that terrible destruction is coming upon these cities today, you will be able to see it then.

7 A lion has come out of his lair; a destroyer of nations has set out. He has left his place to lay waste your land. Your towns will lie in ruins without inhabitant.

There have been several prophetic visions concerning this. First, it appears that China will have a terrible flood, their harvest will be devastated resulting in a famine. This will cause them to go to war, and before they can do that they need to take out the US. They do that by setting off EMP devices strategically placed to cause the nation’s power grid to collapse. Also, once the rapture takes place the man of lawlessness will be revealed and the “riots” you have been watching will roar to life blazing with violence, bloodshed, looting, and terror. One man died and the entire country was filled with violent rioting in the streets. This will take it to a whole new level.

8 So put on sackcloth, lament and wail, for the fierce anger of the Lord has not turned away from us.
This is the seven years of the tribulation. The goal for all those who believe in the Lord Jesus and confess His name is that they will be taken by Him in three and half years. This is a time to convince God that you belong in the book of life. It is a little confusing so let me try and explain all these dates as simply as I can. September 21-22 in 2017 was the Festival of Trumpets. On September 23rd 2017 the great heavenly sign of the woman crowned with 12 stars, clothed with the sun and with the moon beneath her feet travailing to give birth was seen in the heavens. This was the sign spoken of by John in Revelation 12, the last time it appeared in the heavens was 3915 BC and was prophetic that the seed of the woman would crush the serpent's head. That is the first prophecy concerning Jesus. Revelation begins with Jesus saying “He is the first and the last, the alpha and the omega”. It is interesting that this sign would appear at the beginning and then again at the end.

In the Jewish wedding the bride circles the groom three times before the wedding. The earth has circled the sun three times since 2017. Think of these three years as the first 3 days of awe out of the ten.

9 “In that day,” declares the Lord, “the king and the officials will lose heart, the priests will be horrified, and the prophets will be appalled.”

The people who run the country fall into three groups. The president would be viewed as the king, the CDC would be seen as the priests, and the press would be seen as the prophets.
 

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Jeremiah 4:10-31 My life is being given over to murderers

10 Then I said, “Alas, Sovereign Lord! How completely you have deceived this people and Jerusalem by saying, ‘You will have peace,’ when the sword is at our throats!”

You may remember that a peace treaty promising a period of economic prosperity was just signed in Washington D.C. with Israel, UAE and Bahrain on September 15th.

11 At that time this people and Jerusalem will be told, “A scorching wind from the barren heights in the desert blows toward my people, but not to winnow or cleanse; 12 a wind too strong for that comes from me. Now I pronounce my judgments against them.”

So China and Russia will attack Israel, most likely after a preemptive attack on the US. Prior to the first rapture we had a wind for winnowing, to separate the chaff from the wheat. But now this wind is too strong for that.

13 Look! He advances like the clouds, his chariots come like a whirlwind, his horses are swifter than eagles. Woe to us! We are ruined! 14 Jerusalem, wash the evil from your heart and be saved. How long will you harbor wicked thoughts?

The peace treaty was all about Jerusalem, it recognized Jerusalem as being under the jurisdiction of Israel. This is the winds of war. We don't need the Bible to tell us how bad and destructive a war today would be.

15 A voice is announcing from Dan, proclaiming disaster from the hills of Ephraim. 16 “Tell this to the nations, proclaim concerning Jerusalem: ‘A besieging army is coming from a distant land, raising a war cry against the cities of Judah. 17 They surround her like men guarding a field, because she has rebelled against me,’” declares the Lord.

The problem is they rebelled against the Lord. Humble yourself, repent of your rebellion. Turn to Jesus, call on His name, for that is where your salvation is. Do not trust in yourself, do not trust in man.

18 “Your own conduct and actions have brought this on you. This is your punishment. How bitter it is! How it pierces to the heart!”

Repent! Confess your sins and Repent!

19 Oh, my anguish, my anguish! I writhe in pain. Oh, the agony of my heart! My heart pounds within me, I cannot keep silent. For I have heard the sound of the trumpet; I have heard the battle cry.

The rapture takes place at the sound of the Trumpet. But that sound is also the sound of an alarm. It signals the beginning of the tribulation.

20 Disaster follows disaster; the whole land lies in ruins. In an instant my tents are destroyed, my shelter in a moment.

The rapture takes place in a moment, in an instant. Another meaning of rapture is when the water breaks for a woman who is giving birth. The birth canal where the baby is looks like “3 gorges”. We are told that when the woman gives birth in Revelation 12 that the great dragon will unleash a great flood to wash her away. I suspect that refers to the collapse of the 3 Gorges Dam in China. That disaster will lead to others like China setting off EMPs in the US to wipe out our electricity and cause our tents and shelter to be destroyed in a moment. We know from the prophecies that the world's currency will collapse and they will take draconian measures to enforce a new world currency. All of this chaos will take place in the midst of a global pandemic. Economic collapse, famine, plague and War.

21 How long must I see the battle standard and hear the sound of the trumpet? 22 “My people are fools; they do not know me. They are senseless children; they have no understanding. They are skilled in doing evil; they know not how to do good.”

This is reminiscent of the Lord’s word concerning the foolish virgins. They were awoken by the sound of the trumpet and the call that the Bridegroom comes. But they were foolish, they didn’t fill their vessel with oil, with the spirit, with the living word of God. As a result they were senseless, no understanding, no knowledge of how to do good. This reminds me of riding a horse or sailing a boat. Everything can seem easy and simple until the minute you lose control and then it is chaos and catastrophe.

23 I looked at the earth, and it was formless and empty; and at the heavens, and their light was gone. 24 I looked at the mountains, and they were quaking; all the hills were swaying. 25 I looked, and there were no people; every bird in the sky had flown away. 26 I looked, and the fruitful land was a desert; all its towns lay in ruins before the Lord, before his fierce anger.

The call was to “behold the Bridegroom” But the foolish virgins are those who were distracted beholding everything but the Lord. The wise virgins are those whose eyes are firmly set on Him.

27 This is what the Lord says: “The whole land will be ruined, though I will not destroy it completely. 28 Therefore the earth will mourn and the heavens above grow dark, because I have spoken and will not relent, I have decided and will not turn back.” 29 At the sound of horsemen and archers every town takes to flight. Some go into the thickets; some climb up among the rocks. All the towns are deserted; no one lives in them. 30 What are you doing, you devastated one? Why dress yourself in scarlet and put on jewels of gold? Why highlight your eyes with makeup? You adorn yourself in vain. Your lovers despise you; they want to kill you.

Many Christians and many pastors and many churches sold themselves to the world like a harlot. Revelation 17 and 18 refer to this. The Lord’s wrath will burn with fire towards them. Everyone will know that the rapture of the believers has caused a collapse of society, so they will hate those who are left behind yet have the name of Christian. Those who are nominal Christians.

31 I hear a cry as of a woman in labor, a groan as of one bearing her first child—the cry of Daughter Zion gasping for breath, stretching out her hands and saying, “Alas! I am fainting; my life is given over to murderers.”

The analogy here is to two groups. The child she gives birth to is called “the man child” and he is caught up to heaven. He represents the raptured saints. The woman represents God’s people who are left on earth.
 

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Hebrews 5 -- Learn obedience from the things you suffer

1 Every high priest is selected from among the people and is appointed to represent the people in matters related to God, to offer gifts and sacrifices for sins. 2 He is able to deal gently with those who are ignorant and are going astray,since he himself is subject to weakness. 3 This is why he has to offer sacrifices for his own sins, as well as for the sins of the people. 4 And no one takes this honor on himself, but he receives it when called by God, just as Aaron was. 5 In the same way, Christ did not take on himself the glory of becoming a high priest. But God said to him, “You are my Son; today I have become your Father.” 6 And he says in another place, “You are a priest forever, in the order of Melchizedek.” 7 During the days of Jesus’ life on earth, he offered up prayers and petitions with fervent cries and tears to the one who could save him from death, and he was heard because of his reverent submission. 8 Son though he was, he learned obedience from what he suffered 9 and, once made perfect, he became the source of eternal salvation for all who obey him 10 and was designated by God to be high priest in the order of Melchizedek.

These four points really stand out to me. First, He was heard because of His reverent submission. Second, He learned obedience from the things He suffered, third, when He was made perfect He didn’t abandon us, rather He became the source of salvation to all who obey him and after all that He was designated by God to be the High priest after the order of Melchizedek. My prayer for many years was that I could read the Bible. The first time I opened it myself I had no idea what it was saying. I told the Lord I’d need a crowbar to open this book up. Later I met with a group where many members were experts in the ministry of one Bible expositor. I had no interest in that, my interest was simply to be able to pick up the Bible and read it and understand it. This put me on a path that involved a lot of suffering. Those experiences were like a chisel knocking pieces of you off so that you learned to walk the narrow path that leads to life. Anyone can walk the broad way that leads to destruction but if you want to walk the narrow way you soon realize you have fat feet. It seems the way is too narrow for you to fit through, yet if you obey the Lord, if you humble yourself, if you discard all the baggage you have with your flesh and natural man you find you can walk this path. Everything you suffer teaches you one more way that you can be more obedient. Much of your suffering comes from ignoring the lord, when you reflect on that it causes you all the more to be obedient and trust Him. But then you learn that in the Body we are conduits, we don’t serve our own interests. If the Lord gives you a word then you need to pass that on, if you have a revelation, a hymn, a testimony, a dream, then you need to share that with others. Finally, if you can get through those three stages you can become a priest according to the order of Melchizedek. This is different from the Aaronic priesthood or even the Levitical priesthood. You cannot be appointed to this priesthood by man, only God can make this designation.

11 We have much to say about this, but it is hard to make it clear to you because you no longer try to understand. 12 In fact, though by this time you ought to be teachers, you need someone to teach you the elementary truths of God’s word all over again. You need milk, not solid food! 13 Anyone who lives on milk, being still an infant, is not acquainted with the teaching about righteousness. 14 But solid food is for the mature, who by constant use have trained themselves to distinguish good from evil.

So this is strange, you can have a brother or sister that has spent 20 or 40 years in the Lord, in the word, in the meetings, in the fellowship and yet they still need someone to teach them the elementary truths. I’m not talking about spectator Christians, I’m not talking about nominal Christians, I’m talking about dedicated, serious Christians. The problem is they are not acquainted with the teaching about righteousness, they haven’t trained themselves to distinguish between good and evil. Very early on in my Christian life I was faced with a decision. The word I got from the Lord was from Galatians, where Paul said he did not give in to them for a moment that the truth of the gospel might remain with you. The elders put the pressure on me in the meetings, behind closed doors, and in many other ways. This group had a person they referred to as “the apostle” and to a large extent every church meeting hall was a “franchise” to sell this man’s ministry. During the meetings everyone was given a chance to share something they enjoyed of the Lord. The pressure was on to turn those testimonies into testimonials for this brother’s ministry. I shared often and never once spoke a negative word concerning this brother, “the apostle”. However, I also didn’t promote his ministry and simply shared directly from the Bible. More and more it became apparent that the “testimonials” for this man’s ministry were simply advertisements and were being tuned out. No one was getting life from these obligatory messages from our sponsor, which made the contrast between the genuine testimonies and sales pitches even more stark. So it became more and more difficult for me to walk that narrow way. Finally they sent an elder to take over the church I was meeting at. His messages attacked me as being a drug addict who was mentally unstable and who the elders were very concerned about and had hoped I would get better. Although he didn’t mention me by name it was clear to all in the meeting that he had to be talking about me. How do you respond to that? When the opportunity to share a testimony was given I was the first to my feet to the shock of all. I shared something I enjoyed about one of the Bible verses he had referenced and otherwise completely ignored everything else. After the meeting a brother cornered me in front of all and asked who the brother was referring to. I said I didn’t know, ask him. That infuriated everyone. The next week this elder doubled down and now accused me of being a homosexual, again, not mentioning me by name, but otherwise making it very clear he was talking about me. Once again I was the first to my feet, ignored everything he had shared and focused on one of the Bible verses that had been referenced. I felt like he was giving the saints poisoned water it was essential I give them clean water to drink. However the saints were very upset, they knew someone was lying to them and it was blatant. But then, by the Lord’s grace an elderly couple also moved to that church, a couple that had known me for my entire time in the church and they were able to state clearly that everything this elder had shared had been false. As a result he began backpedalling fast and in the next message he shared that he wasn’t talking about my time in the church after being saved and baptized but before that time. That was astounding to me as I was from NY and he was from Dallas. I thought how on earth does this man know who I was in NY? However, I knew that was a temptation, like a steep muddy bank on the side of the narrow way. The minute you address it you slide into the ditch, so I again ignored him. However, this time the saints didn’t ignore him and one by one they expressed their outrage. If you are truly walking the narrow way that leads to life you can expect to be attacked, slandered, and provoked. But regardless of what they throw at you the Lord has given you a promise, obey Him, reject temptation, and this path leads to life. This is the way to the Father. This is what it means to take up your cross and follow Him. This is how we learn obedience and this is how we learn to not just worry about our salvation but that of others as well.
 

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Jeremiah 5:1-14 -- “How did we get here?” Senator Durbin

1 Run ye to and fro through the streets of Jerusalem, and see now, and know, and seek in the broad places thereof, if ye can find a man, if there be any that executeth judgment, that seeketh the truth; and I will pardon it.

Senator Durbin asked “how did we get here?” He was troubled by the process of confirming Amy Coney Barrett. Apparently she would not respond to any questions about her beliefs or thoughts on relevant issues like Climate Change and whether or not a President could take certain unilateral actions. How did we get here? Think about the Kavanaugh hearing and the Clarence Thomas hearing. Think about what the Supreme court rulings on abortion have done. Instead of asking about the US constitution they want to know if you are going to support this ruling which half the country thinks is an outrage. How did we get here, that is the question.

2 And though they say, The Lord liveth; surely they swear falsely.

The Senators are false. For example, look at the outrage that a justice has been nominated during an election year. There have been 29 justices nominated during an election year. The only example of one not being nominated was when Lincoln was President. A vacancy opened up less than a month before the election and the Senate was not in session. Even if he had nominated someone they couldn’t have confirmed them. However, the day the Senate did return he nominated someone and they were confirmed 24 hours later.

3 O Lord, are not thine eyes upon the truth? thou hast stricken them, but they have not grieved; thou hast consumed them, but they have refused to receive correction: they have made their faces harder than a rock; they have refused to return.

This is what happens when you try to defend a lie. The lie is that the US constitution protects the right to an abortion. It doesn’t say anything about abortion and therefore according to the US constitution if it isn’t covered by them it is up to the States to decide individually and the US Supreme court has no jurisdiction.

4 Therefore I said, Surely these are poor; they are foolish: for they know not the way of the Lord, nor the judgment of their God. 5 I will get me unto the great men, and will speak unto them; for they have known the way of the Lord, and the judgment of their God: but these have altogether broken the yoke, and burst the bonds.

When I was growing up you had the thought that the Supreme court justices were great men who understood the way of the Lord and the judgement of God. That has been shown to be altogether false. Why do you think we have protests where no one trusts those in authority? The Warren commission gave their seal of approval on a bogus investigation of JFK’s assassination. The 911 commission gave their seal of approval on a bogus investigation. Slanderous hearings during the confirmation of Supreme court justices, they have altogether broken the yoke and burst the bonds.

6 Wherefore a lion out of the forest shall slay them, and a wolf of the evenings shall spoil them, a leopard shall watch over their cities: every one that goeth out thence shall be torn in pieces: because their transgressions are many, and their backslidings are increased.

These protests, riots and looting are about to get very, very bad. Why? One senator said it well, when Obama was elected he was not happy, but he accepted the outcome as the will of the people. When Trump was elected many high ranking officials did not accept the outcome. They said he wasn’t their president, etc. They set an example for the rest of the country. Imagine how much worse it will be if the evidence comes out that the election was stolen? We know that their polls have been rigged. Telling the American people that Clinton was a shoe in also led to the sense that the election had been stolen. They are reaping what they sowed in their lies and in their disrespect of the many Americans that support him and voted for him. When they speak so disrespectfully of the President that he is a racist it infers that all those who voted for him must also be racist. It is one thing to disagree with those who are a different political party, but to slander them all with a broad brush results in a tit for tat. As a result those on the right see the left as nothing but liars.

7 How shall I pardon thee for this? thy children have forsaken me, and sworn by them that are no gods: when I had fed them to the full, they then committed adultery, and assembled themselves by troops in the harlots' houses. 8 They were as fed horses in the morning: every one neighed after his neighbour's wife. 9 Shall I not visit for these things? saith the Lord: and shall not my soul be avenged on such a nation as this?

Let’s be honest here. The US was blessed by God, we were fed to the full, and as a whole this country has committed adultery and assembled themselves in the harlots’ houses. Pornography has grown exponentially in this country through some loophole with cable TV and the internet. The corruption you see in government with the politicians is a kind of adultery. They have a covenant with the American people but have sold themselves to the corporate interests.

10 Go ye up upon her walls, and destroy; but make not a full end: take away her battlements; for they are not the Lord's. 11 For the house of Israel and the house of Judah have dealt very treacherously against me, saith the Lord.

The believers who are filled with the Holy Spirit have been a wall to this country. Yes, they have been despised and mocked, but they have kept out the horrors you can see around the world. We have not been occupied with other armies. We did not had acts of war take place on our land since 1812 until Pearl Harbor and then 9/11. 9/11 was a breach in the wall, a warning, but that wall will be destroyed with her battlements taken away when the rapture takes place. There are two kinds of genuine Christians: preachers of righteousness and righteous men. The preachers of righteousness, like Noah, are the battlements. They will be taken in the rapture. The righteous men, like Lot, will not be taken. So the Lord will not make a full end of the wall.

12 They have belied the Lord, and said, It is not he; neither shall evil come upon us; neither shall we see sword nor famine: 13 And the prophets shall become wind, and the word is not in them: thus shall it be done unto them.

They have mocked the Lord and His servants, they despise them, so they will discover what happens in this country when you take them away. Think how arrogant Americans are to think that we will not see sword or famine in this country, so that is going to change very quickly. What about the prophets where the word is not in them? They will be left behind where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth. They will have to go through the Great tribulation.

14 Wherefore thus saith the Lord God of hosts, Because ye speak this word, behold, I will make my words in thy mouth fire, and this people wood, and it shall devour them.

They are saying this is not from God. The Pandemic is not a warning. So then, it has been determined.
 

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Jeremiah 5:15-31 The people love fake news

15 Lo, I will bring a nation upon you from far, O house of Israel, saith the Lord: it is a mighty nation, it is an ancient nation, a nation whose language thou knowest not, neither understandest what they say.

Are we talking about China? Russia? Too bad the Americans didn’t learn foreign languages. A mighty nation, an ancient nation, a nation where we don't know their tongue. That sounds like China.

16 Their quiver is as an open sepulchre, they are all mighty men.

China and Russia have recently had great military parades, impressive and terrifying at the same time.

17 And they shall eat up thine harvest, and thy bread, which thy sons and thy daughters should eat: they shall eat up thy flocks and thine herds: they shall eat up thy vines and thy fig trees: they shall impoverish thy fenced cities, wherein thou trusted, with the sword.

What an insult, to have UN peacekeepers in the US. This is figurative language, are we talking about peacekeepers, or are we talking about the Pandemic?

18 Nevertheless in those days, saith the Lord, I will not make a full end with you.

The Tribulation is divided into two parts, the first 3 and ½ years God does not make a full end of us because there is still an opportunity to repent, turn to the Lord and get right with Him.

19 And it shall come to pass, when ye shall say, Wherefore doeth the Lord our God all these things unto us? then shalt thou answer them, Like as ye have forsaken me, and served strange gods in your land, so shall ye serve strangers in a land that is not your's.

What do you think the end is when you serve strange Gods? If you legalize prostitution then the land will be filled with pimps and brothels. If you let foreign countries contribute to your campaigns and your “charitable foundations” then you will serve them. Right now the cartels control our border, did Biden cut a deal with them? This is like Scar in the Lion King making a deal with the hyenas. The government wants to pay your debts, sounds good, but your debts refer to your mortgage. If the government pays your mortgage they own your house and you are living in a land that is not yours serving strange gods.

20 Declare this in the house of Jacob, and publish it in Judah, saying, 21 Hear now this, O foolish people, and without understanding; which have eyes, and see not; which have ears, and hear not: 22 Fear ye not me? saith the Lord: will ye not tremble at my presence, which have placed the sand for the bound of the sea by a perpetual decree, that it cannot pass it: and though the waves thereof toss themselves, yet can they not prevail; though they roar, yet can they not pass over it?

You have eyes and can see these fires that are consuming the west which we cannot put out, these hurricanes and floods which devastate entire communities, and a pandemic that is shutting down your economy and yet you don’t fear God? Not yet? OK, you were warned, those were simply shots across the bow.

23 But this people hath a revolting and a rebellious heart; they are revolted and gone. 24 Neither say they in their heart, Let us now fear the Lord our God, that giveth rain, both the former and the latter, in his season: he reserveth unto us the appointed weeks of the harvest.

The proper response is to confess your sins and repent of them and worship the Lord.

25 Your iniquities have turned away these things, and your sins have withholden good things from you. 26 For among my people are found wicked men: they lay wait, as he that setteth snares; they set a trap, they catch men.

This is what the cancel culture is. I couldn’t get your job when I applied straight up, so now I need to lay a trap and set a snare. This is what they did to Kavanaugh.

27 As a cage is full of birds, so are their houses full of deceit: therefore they are become great, and waxen rich.

And why shouldn’t these protestors behave this way? They have been on the other side of this behavior. This is what Jezebel did, accuse some man of blasphemy and before anyone has a chance to sort out the facts execute him and take his vineyard. Many of the rich got there “by hook or by crook”. They framed people and stole their property and sent them to prison to pay for their crimes. They have learned the deep things of Satan from Jezebel. This is what 9/11 was. Kill a few thousand people so that the US government would write a blank check for drones and robots.

28 They are waxen fat, they shine: yea, they overpass the deeds of the wicked: they judge not the cause, the cause of the fatherless, yet they prosper; and the right of the needy do they not judge. 29 Shall I not visit for these things? saith the Lord: shall not my soul be avenged on such a nation as this?

Do you realize if just a fraction of the money spent on drones and robots had been spent on the inner city we would have one of the best educated workforces in the world? No, they want them poor and hungry so they will join the army.

30 A wonderful and horrible thing is committed in the land; 31 The prophets prophesy falsely, and the priests bear rule by their means; and my people love to have it so: and what will ye do in the end thereof?

So back to Senator Durbin who wanted to know how we got here? We got here because the media is fake news and the priests bear rule by their means and the people love to have it so. What are you going to do now?
 

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Hebrews 6 -- Moving on from the elementary teachings to casting mountains into the sea

1 Therefore let us move beyond the elementary teachings about Christ and be taken forward to maturity, not laying again the foundation of repentance from acts that lead to death, and of faith in God, 2 instruction about cleansing rites, the laying on of hands, the resurrection of the dead, and eternal judgment. 3 And God permitting, we will do so.

This is the foundation of our faith. Repent, make a turn from the acts that lead to death and begin to walk the narrow way that leads to life. Second, we study the word and build up our faith in the Lord. Third, we learn the “cleansing rites”, how to restore saints to the fellowship, how to deal with sin in the church. This is what Matthew 18 deals with. Then we learn about the ministry and sending out saints to carry the gospel and minister the word. Then we come to two key topics, the resurrection of the dead which includes the rapture and the eternal judgement. We learn about the Bema judgement and the Great White throne judgement. Basically this is what the book of Romans, 1Corinthians and 2Corinthians talks about. The basic teachings are the gospel, the church and the ministry. This is the New Testament, so if these are the elementary teachings what does it mean to “move beyond” these elementary teachings?

4 It is impossible for those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, who have shared in the Holy Spirit, 5 who have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the coming age 6 and who have fallen[c] away, to be brought back to repentance. To their loss they are crucifying the Son of Godall over again and subjecting him to public disgrace. 7 Land that drinks in the rain often falling on it and that produces a crop useful to those for whom it is farmed receives the blessing of God. 8 But land that produces thorns and thistles is worthless and is in danger of being cursed. In the end it will be burned.

Wow! Did you get that? The writer of this book (in my opinion it is a collaboration between Paul and James, but I am not a historian, just a guess). So why do I guess James and Paul? This book is the transition from the ministry of Paul to James. The book of James focuses on how to recognize false prophets. Paul gives us all these elementary teachings (the gospel, the church and the ministry) and then Hebrews tells us to move on from there, and James reveals false prophets. If this were Karate once you had completed the foundational teachings you would move on to prepare for combat.

9 Even though we speak like this, dear friends, we are convinced of better things in your case—the things that have to do with salvation. 10 God is not unjust; he will not forget your work and the love you have shown him as you have helped his people and continue to help them. 11 We want each of you to show this same diligence to the very end, so that what you hope for may be fully realized. 12 We do not want you to become lazy, but to imitate those who through faith and patience inherit what has been promised.

It is as though we are walking on a balance beam, a little too much to this side and we will fall just as Satan, Balaam and Judas fell. A little too much to the other side and we’ll become lazy. Many of these false prophets are not lazy, that is for sure, but they also aren’t patient. I never really appreciated how patience could have her perfect work until I read the book of James. I experienced it myself as well. I am a high school science teacher working in the inner city in Brooklyn. When I arrived at our school our students were scoring in the bottom 25% of the city on the state exam. But year by year we made improvements on that score. Now they score in the top 5%. Our two best years they scored in the top 3%. However, if you look at the improvement they have shown since entering our school they have gone from the 50% rank to the 3% rank. There is no other school that has shown such consistent improvements year after year. By faith we are casting this mountain of bias into the sea. But it took us ten years. Every year we had to reevaluate what happened, what could be improved, where we needed to focus. Every teacher in NYC is required to do this. However, very few understand statistical analysis. Typically what they will do is identify the ten percent of the curriculum that the kids did poorest on and tell the teachers to do more work on that ten percent. I do the opposite. I look at all the students who passed and then identify the core questions that they got right and decide that is the core. I then look at the students who almost passed and figure out where they missed it and decide those are the questions that I need to focus on. My goal is to “expand the core” of what my kids understand just like a crystal growing from year to year. I learned this approach by reading a book on statistical analysis. In WWII the US air force wanted to reduce the number of planes shot down so they brought in statisticians to examine the bullet holes on the airplanes and figure out where to put more armor, but the least possible as the armor would slow the planes down. The generals thought they would figure out where most of the bullet holes were and put the armor there, however the statisticians said no, they would figure out where there weren’t any bullet holes and put the armor there! Why? Because none of these planes were shot down, they all returned, they were like my students who had passed. So I trusted that these guys knew what they were doing and imitated them. Both of these issues are covered in the book of James, doing a perfect work wrought in patience and discerning and dealing with false prophets.

13 When God made his promise to Abraham, since there was no one greater for him to swear by, he swore by himself, 14 saying, “I will surely bless you and give you many descendants.” 15 And so after waiting patiently, Abraham received what was promised.

We have been promised to rule and reign with Jesus Christ over the earth. We were promised that the faithful ones would be put over several cities. That is not one of the elementary teachings.

16 People swear by someone greater than themselves, and the oath confirms what is said and puts an end to all argument. 17 Because God wanted to make the unchanging nature of his purpose very clear to the heirs of what was promised, he confirmed it with an oath. 18 God did this so that, by two unchangeable things in which it is impossible for God to lie, we who have fled to take hold of the hope set before us may be greatly encouraged. 19 We have this hope as an anchor for the soul, firm and secure. It enters the inner sanctuary behind the curtain,20 where our forerunner, Jesus, has entered on our behalf. He has become a high priest forever, in the order of Melchizedek.

Our hope is that the Lord Jesus will return as the glorious coming King, we will be raptured to the throne as His bride and be there at His coronation. Then we will rule and reign with Him during the “restoration of all things” known as the millennial kingdom and be with Him for eternity.
 

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Proverbs 18:1-10 -- The perils of social media

1 An unfriendly person pursues selfish ends and against all sound judgment starts quarrels. 2 Fools find no pleasure in understanding but delight in airing their own opinions.

Social media is a mirror. Are you friendly, are you selfish, do you have sound judgement? I intentionally used the term “trolls” because many assume that anyone who says anything that disagrees with them is a “troll”. But that really means you find no pleasure in understanding but rather delight in airing your own opinion.

3 When wickedness comes, so does contempt, and with shame comes reproach.

Social media can discuss issues, can be a place for friends to gather, a place to get understanding and help from others. But it is also a place where the wicked will come. One person arrested at this January 6 riot had posted numerous videos online of him speaking at the ANTIFA rallies railing against the authorities. He posted educational videos of how to dress for a riot, how to hide your identity, what kind of weapons to bring. He used Twitter, Facebook and Discord to advertise the riot, tell people when and where to meet, etc. The things these wicked do are shameful. As a result the rest of us have contempt and reproach for these ones. For example, we wonder why the platforms don’t take these posts down. For example one kid complained to twitter that sexual pictures of him were posted on the internet against his will, which is a crime. He was being ridiculed and scorned at school. Twitter asked for proof that he was a minor so he sent the proof. After weeks of back and forth with them doing nothing they concluded that the posts did not violate their policy and refused to take action. They are now being sued, their policy does not trump US law and the law of California. As a result Twitter is being reproached. They censored the President because they felt his use of the term “Patriot” was hate speech. However there are thousands of tweets on Twitter with the term “Hang Pence” or “Assassinate the President” that the don’t see as hate speech. The Shah of Iran can tweet about genocide of Jews and that is not hate speech. They determine that “peaceful protest” was code for inciting violence whereas John Sullivan’s tweets and other ANTIFA tweets that clearly called for violence didn’t? These things are shameful for Twitter and along with that shame will come reproach. Investors and advertisers and subscribers will all reproach them. Now if you advertise or invest in Twitter you will be taking part in their sins.

4 The words of the mouth are deep waters, but the fountain of wisdom is a rushing stream.

It is not all bad. There are some great channels that are deep waters and rushing streams. I want to listen to them every day because if you don’t they will just pass you by. They have too much to say to always be repeating, it is your job to keep up.

5 It is not good to be partial to the wicked and so deprive the innocent of justice.

Parler was attacked by a coordinated attack to destroy their business. In a 24 hour period Google, Amazon.com and Apple all told them they would cancel all their contracts and shut them down. They were given 24 hours to move a billion dollar company. Meanwhile as Parler tried to find other servers that would host them these three companies went after those companies as well to make sure they would not host them. The stated reason for this was the claim that Parler was used to organize the riot on the Capitol. However, subsequent investigations have shown that the attack on the Capitol was organized via Twitter, Facebook and Discord. Of all the ones associated with the planning and initial breach of the capitol that have been arrested not one used Parler. They all used Twitter, Facebook and Discord. There was not a single post on Parler that organized or planned the riot prior to the event. So then why the rush to judgement? Well it turns out there was a very different reason for their panic and action. A year ago Parler had 1 million users, at the time of the attack they had 15 million. Rapid growth but still tiny compared to Twitter with 180 million active users. However, Twitter banned Trump and 7,000 other channels which might account for as many as 100 million active users and these companies learned that Trump had moved to Parler. If Twitter loses 100 million active users and Parler gains 100 million they will no longer be “tiny” but a clear rival to Twitter with spectacular growth.

6 The lips of fools bring them strife, and their mouths invite a beating.

The CEOs of these five tech giants are fools. No other way to say it. The entire world has seen what happened and have begun to take steps to protect themselves. Germany, France and Mexico all expressed outrage at the actions of these five. Uganda blocked Twitter during their election. Australia is introducing laws concerning liability for them and Google responded that if those laws are passed they might not be able to operate in Australia. The response from Australia was quite clear, anyone who is willing to abide by the laws of Australia are welcome to do business here, if you aren’t willing then you aren’t welcome. You can be sure that this is the tip of the iceberg. The governments of every country around the world are aware of what they have done and are taking action to protect themselves. They may not be vocal about it because they don’t wish to invite an attack, but they are all considering similar action. The actions of these companies has invited a beating in the stock market, a beating from their shareholders who will be demanding resignations and filing lawsuits, and a beating on public platforms.

7 The mouths of fools are their undoing, and their lips are a snare to their very lives.

I have warned T Rowe Price, a major investor in Twitter to sell the stock. There is a worldwide exodus from this company and when the earnings are released in February it will be evident for all to see. I expect to see a rapid and astounding drop in stock price for all five. The term “undoing” is so appropriate here. A stock price is similar to wager at a casino, you are betting what the stock will be worth in five years. If a company is growing rapidly as these companies have been and if you see them having a worldwide market to grow into as these companies did, then you can bet on huge growth and so the stock price is also very high. A month ago it would have been reasonable to bet that $100 worth of their stock could be worth $1,000 in five years. Therefore paying $500 for it would make sense. However, all the news that is coming out suggests that there will not be any growth at all, rather they may lose business over the next five years. Now, with all this news it is reasonable to bet that $100 worth of stock will be worth $80 in five years. A better price would therefore be $40. Unfortunately as the stock price drops from $500 to $40 you will see the “undoing” or “unwinding” of many positions. Also the companies will be forced to sell assets to cover debts. When stock prices fall it is like pulling pillars of support out of a structure, the entire building collapses.

8 The words of a gossip are like choice morsels; they go down to the inmost parts.

This is why companies hate to be the topic of the day. The talk of the tech giants demise will be like choice morsels at a cocktail party. Social media is the cocktail party.

9 One who is slack in his work is brother to one who destroys.

Neither my wife or I are on Twitter. So what is the point of it, who cares? In the past if a company wanted to make a press announcement they would invite the press to a meeting and make a statement. Now they can simply tweet. The press all subscribe to their account and they’ll see the announcement and then retweet it on their platform, say a newspaper. The President did this, concerts were announced this way, new products, etc. But that does not explain 180 million active users. It turns out that a great many of the tweets are by people who are “slack in his work”, the stereotypical twenty something living in his parents basement. With nothing better to do they became the “brother to one who destroys”. As a result the “Cancel culture” was created by self important college kids acting as judge and jury. The problem is their threats were empty, people soon realized that their threat of cancelling Chick Fil A only caused the company to prosper, the same thing with Goya, etc. So then, you either slink off with your tail between your legs or you up the ante and ANTIFA was born. You won’t listen to us, we smash your windows.

10 The name of the Lord is a fortified tower; the righteous run to it and are safe.

I am watching people right, left and center get cancelled, get doxed, get threatened, shamed and bullied. For what? For saying something that someone took offense to. But they haven’t cancelled me, haven’t focused their ire on me. Why not? It reminds me of those Dracula movies where you hold up the cross and the vampire has to flee. You can’t read these posts without reading the Bible. By the time you get to where I say “election fraud” or corruption or the “Biden crime family” it is so deep within the fortified tower of the Lord that I am safe.
 

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Proverbs 18:11-24 The walls will be scaled

11 The wealth of the rich is their fortified city; they imagine it a wall too high to scale.

I love this, the walls will come tumbling down. Most people look at these companies with the mega market cap, the ones who can afford an army of lawyers to keep litigation at bay for twenty years and think you can’t touch them. The wall is an illusion. The stock price is based on what we think their growth will be, in other words it is based on how well their product or service is perceived by the little people like you and me, the ants. If we think your product is poison who cares how wealthy you are, that will be gone in a day. Censorship is poison, manipulation is poison, pedophilia is poison, inciting riots is poison, providing a safe haven for terrorists like ISIS and Iran is poison, colluding to put competitors out of business by violating contracts is poison, and bribing officials for election fraud is poison. Seven blasts on the trumpet to warn the whole world that these walls are tumbling down.

12 Before a downfall the heart is haughty, but humility comes before honor.

What they did was haughty. No other word for it. Scornfully and condescendingly proud.

13 To answer before listening—that is folly and shame.

Nancy Pelosi and the Democrats introduced articles of impeachment against Trump based on headlines of newspapers rather than on evidence from an investigation. We now know that everything they claim is false, their behavior was folly and they have been brought to shame.

14 The human spirit can endure in sickness, but a crushed spirit who can bear? 15 The heart of the discerning acquires knowledge, for the ears of the wise seek it out.

While working prior to the shut down of the pandemic I got my news listening to the radio while commuting to work. I was very disappointed with the mainstream media, but didn’t have the time or inclination to do anything about it. But the first thing I did once we had a shut down was try to find reliable sources of information. I sought it out. I would hear someone I trusted refer to someone else and would seek that one out as well. It took me months, but little by little Newsmax, NTD, Tucker Carlson, Dan Bongino, Steve Bannon’s war room, Epoch Times, one by one I discovered reliable journalists.

16 A gift opens the way and ushers the giver into the presence of the great.

The reliable journalists do the same thing. They seek out witnesses and experts that have a track record revealing they are gifted, they are right, they were telling the truth when it wasn’t popular.

17 In a lawsuit the first to speak seems right, until someone comes forward and cross-examines.

Lebron James needs to learn this lesson. The riots in Kenosha were incited by the NBA and Lebron. If you are going to hold someone responsible for inciting a riot these ones should be held accountable. It took months before we had the trial but when you heard the cross examination of Jacob Blake it was shocking, you completely justified the police and their actions.

18 Casting the lot settles disputes and keeps strong opponents apart. 19 A brother wronged is more unyielding than a fortified city; disputes are like the barred gates of a citadel.

The people who have been protesting with the “Stop the Steal” rally are a “brother wronged”. Texas was told they had no standing to challenge the behavior of another state that affects them. They are a brother wronged. DC used troops from Texas and Florida shamefully, forcing 500 soldiers to share a single porta potty. They are a brother wronged.

20 From the fruit of their mouth a person’s stomach is filled; with the harvest of their lips they are satisfied.

I have read Peter Navarro’s three volumes on the evidence of election fraud. My stomach is filled and I am satisfied that the election was rigged.

21 The tongue has the power of life and death, and those who love it will eat its fruit.

Those of us who are fighting against censorship love the power of the tongue. So then how do you fight and what are the fruits? I am leaving Twitter, Amazon.com, Google, Facebook, Apple and Youtube. I use Rumble instead of Youtube, buy from anyone else rather than Amazon.com, use DuckDuckGo rather than google, use Parler rather than Facebook and Gab rather than Twitter. I will no longer buy Apple products. I do this because I love free speech. What are the fruits? Invest in Rumble, Parler, Gab, DuckDuckGo, etc. These companies are set to show incredible growth.

22 He who finds a wife finds what is good and receives favor from the Lord.

Our government is acting like a whore. The accusations against Biden are that he offered up his services for sale to whoever would pay. Same with Clinton, Obama, Hillary, Pelosi, Feinstein, and on and on. The Stop the Steal rally is our stand against the Madam and Pimps who are trying to steal this country.

23 The poor plead for mercy, but the rich answer harshly.

Time to wake up. Yes, individually we are “poor” but collectively, when 80 million people work together we are rich. We can pull down strongholds and slay giants.

24 One who has unreliable friends soon comes to ruin, but there is a friend who sticks closer than a brother.

Money is not a reliable friend, it is treacherous. The shareholders, they are treacherous. The advertisers, they are treacherous. In contrast the church and Jesus are reliable, they stick closer than a brother, you attack one of them they close ranks.
 

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Jeremiah 6:1-8 -- I will make your land so that no one can live in it.

“Flee for safety, people of Benjamin! Flee from Jerusalem! Sound the trumpet in Tekoa! Raise the signal over Beth Hakkerem! For disaster looms out of the north, even terrible destruction.

What a picture. The Southern kingdom was composed of Judah and Benjamin. Here we see that this kingdom is split in two just like what we are seeing today between the “Leftists” and the “Conservatives”. These two locations are the southern border of Judah with Benjamin. Again, if this were the US then Jerusalem would be Washington DC. To flee from Washington DC would then have a double meaning. Yes, the capital is surrounded by troops and fences, but it is also the “heart of the corruption”, some are now calling it “the district of corruption”.

2 I will destroy Daughter Zion, so beautiful and delicate.


I prefer the translation that describes the daughter of Zion as a beautiful pasture. For the last century the world has looked at the US as a great place to do business, but that will be destroyed.

3 Shepherds with their flocks will come against her; they will pitch their tents around her, each tending his own portion.”

Again, I prefer the translation that describes them each with their hand out. Why is the US being destroyed as a place to do business? It is because of the government mandated shutdown as well as the schools being shut down. What is keeping them from lifting the mandate? Not the science (as a rule kids are at a very low risk). Not the hospitals, the cases have dropped significantly. We now have treatments that work and three different vaccines. No, what is keeping them from reopening is the teachers unions. “Offspring of vipers” they have learned to “never let a crisis go to waste” and have their hand out demanding all kinds of money from the federal government.

4 “Prepare for battle against her! Arise, let us attack at noon! But, alas, the daylight is fading, and the shadows of evening grow long. 5 So arise, let us attack at night and destroy her fortresses!”

Wow, how appropriate. The pandemic was designed to destroy the positive economic news and help get Biden elected. The idea was to reopen after the election but now it is dragging on and on. This was designed to unseat the Republicans but now it will destroy the fortresses of the Democrats. Cuomo, Whitmer and Newsom are now coming under intense pressure to either be recalled, impeached or resign. Fauci is being mocked as a liar and a joke. The CDC and the WHO are losing credibility.

6 This is what the Lord Almighty says: “Cut down the trees and build siege ramps against Jerusalem. This city must be punished; it is filled with oppression.

Fair enough, lay siege to the Capital. Every day the news is being proclaimed, Biden is causing jobs to be lost, he is damaging our industries, he is being controlled by radical leftists. The censorship is being exposed. People are building alternative platforms from which to proclaim the facts. Already Biden’s strong support is down to the thirty percentile range, this is after only 1 month in office. For someone who is supposed to have had the most massive turnout in election history this is the most epic drop in support ever. Meanwhile the evidence of voter fraud continues to press the case. People are being arrested, States are passing legislation, courts are upholding subpoenas.

7 As a well pours out its water, so she pours out her wickedness. Violence and destruction resound in her; her sickness and wounds are ever before me.

We are now seeing the violence and destruction of Antifa and even the January 6 riot in a new light. The evidence and facts are changing the publics opinion. Over 70% of Americans view Antifa as domestic terrorists while the evidence that any Trump supporters committed any acts of violence on January 6 is becoming thinner and thinner. The lies and falsehood were poured out as water. AOC crying about how she felt threatened, FBI claiming a policeman was bludgeoned to death, and the absurd claim that Antifa is not committing acts of terrorism because they loot at night.

8 Take warning, Jerusalem, or I will turn away from you and make your land desolate so no one can live in it.”

Could anyone have believed this a year ago? March 3, 2020 there was no pandemic, no shutdown, no Stop the Steal rallies, and very little in the way of rioting and looting by Antifa. A year later homicides are up by 300% in some cities.
 

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Jeremiah 6:9-18 Prophets and priests all practice deceit

9 This is what the Lord Almighty says: “Let them glean the remnant of Israel as thoroughly as a vine; pass your hand over the branches again, like one gathering grapes.”

This is what we are hearing out of the left. They have thrown open our border, they want to keep the schools closed, and the government is gleaning the US, they want to pass another trillion dollar stimulus plan after having just passed a previous one of 1.9 trillion. The yields on our bonds have spiked up and now they are doubling the amount of bonds they are trying to sell. For those who don’t understand if the yield on the bonds goes up the US debt will skyrocket and when that happens you will see inflation, perhaps even runaway inflation.

10 To whom can I speak and give warning? Who will listen to me? Their ears are closed so they cannot hear. The word of the Lord is offensive to them; they find no pleasure in it.

Just like today. It is like two completely different worlds, those that listen to CNN cannot listen to warnings from people like Tucker Carlson or Steve Bannon.

11 But I am full of the wrath of the Lord, and I cannot hold it in. “Pour it out on the children in the street and on the young men gathered together; both husband and wife will be caught in it, and the old, those weighed down with years. 12 Their houses will be turned over to others, together with their fields and their wives, when I stretch out my hand against those who live in the land,” declares the Lord.

This is what we are seeing, small businesses are getting hit very hard, the bankruptcies will sweep across the country. Especially small landlords who have not been able to collect rent for over a year. Restaurants that were forced to close. Cuomo and four other governors mandated that people sick with Covid had to return to the nursing homes guaranteeing that many elderly would get sick and die. Mental health issues among kids who have had to study remotely for the last year have increased 100%. Young people cannot find jobs.

13 “From the least to the greatest, all are greedy for gain; prophets and priests alike, all practice deceit. 14 They dress the wound of my people as though it were not serious. ‘Peace, peace,’ they say, when there is no peace.

The hypocrisy and lies are repulsive. All the courts refusing to listen to evidence of election fraud. This is not helping the situation. They are trying to say that there is nothing to see here and yet the lies and hypocrisy are overflowing, no one believes a word they say. All of these mainstream media outlets and tech giant platforms and politicians and pundits practice deceit. The most vocal advocates of the “#MeToo” movement when one woman brought a charge against Kavanaugh from 20 years previously, a charge that could not be substantiated, these same people are refusing to listen to multiple women bring charges against Biden and Cuomo. Joy Behar and Kamala Harris are two prime examples of the most deceitful and hypocritical women. Meanwhile there was a Bishop in a Catholic church who had a pregnant woman holding a baby hauled off by the police because she needed to remove her mask.

15 Are they ashamed of their detestable conduct? No, they have no shame at all; they do not even know how to blush. So they will fall among the fallen; they will be brought down when I punish them,” says the Lord. 16 This is what the Lord says: “Stand at the crossroads and look; ask for the ancient paths, ask where the good way is, and walk in it, and you will find rest for your souls. But you said, ‘We will not walk in it.’

Right now there is a fork in the road, some will find the path that leads to life, but only a few, the rest will take the broad way that leads to destruction. Not only so but when they heard people preaching and warning and telling them to take the path that leads to life they were obstinate “we will not walk in it”.

17 I appointed watchmen over you and said, ‘Listen to the sound of the trumpet!’ But you said, ‘We will not listen.’

There are Christians everywhere on the internet sounding the alarm and their response is “we will not listen”.

18 Therefore hear, you nations; you who are witnesses, observe what will happen to them.

The whole world is watching what is happening in the US. God punishes the US and the rest of the world is warned.
 

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Jeremiah 6:19-27 Look, an army is coming

19 Hear, you earth: I am bringing disaster on this people, the fruit of their schemes, because they have not listened to my word and have rejected my law.

The disaster is self inflicted. Just like the blackouts in Texas, or the people dying in nursing homes, or the laws being passed concerning the tech giants and censorship.

20 What do I care about incense from Sheba or sweet calamus from a distant land? Your burnt offerings are not acceptable; your sacrifices do not please me.”

Do you think that God cares if Joe Biden shows up at Mass? Do you think that he tells a few “hail mary’s” and then it will be all fine?

21 Therefore this is what the Lord says: “I will put obstacles before this people. Parents and children alike will stumble over them; neighbors and friends will perish.”

Deceit like the SAT scandal, election fraud, drugs, etc. The schools are closed, Antifa continues to riot in the street, now that the borders have been thrown open we’ll see drugs flooding back into the cities. Mental health issues with kids.

22 This is what the Lord says: “Look, an army is coming from the land of the north; a great nation is being stirred up from the ends of the earth.

They refused to listen to the warning, but more than a year ago Steve Bannon started a daily broadcast called “War Room Pandemic” because he saw that the virus in Wuhan had the potential to become a pandemic. They mocked and ridiculed him as a tin foil hat conspiracy. But he was right. We now have the evidence that this came from the Wuhan Bio weapons lab and that the CCP has done many things to obstruct a thorough investigation. The only reasonable attitude at this point is that we view this pandemic as an attack with a bioweapon from the CCP until we can get the evidence to prove otherwise. Then we also have evidence that the CCP was involved in stealing the US election. This has been published in Mike Lindell’s movies exposing the fraud. That should also be viewed as China’s being complicit in a coup in the US. These are acts of war. How is it that the American people are so blase about our capital being ringed with troops and fences?

23 They are armed with bow and spear; they are cruel and show no mercy. They sound like the roaring sea as they ride on their horses; they come like men in battle formation to attack you, Daughter Zion.”

Wake up! Anyone who would attack with a bioweapon that destroys the world’s economy is not going to show any mercy.

24 We have heard reports about them, and our hands hang limp. Anguish has gripped us, pain like that of a woman in labor.

Nice, I wonder if this is a reference to the birth pains of the woman who is bringing forth the Man Child. In the gospel of Luke the Lord said that when we see Jerusalem compassed about with troops that this is the last sign prior to the rapture at the beginning of the tribulation. Now here in Jeremiah there appears to be a confirmation of that.

25 Do not go out to the fields or walk on the roads, for the enemy has a sword, and there is terror on every side.

After the rapture there will be a dramatic collapse in law and order. Imagine what the US would be like if you don’t remove any of the Antifa or people who are rioting and looting but you do remove a third of all the cops, a third of teachers, and all the people standing with the Lord for righteousness.

26 Put on sackcloth, my people, and roll in ashes; mourn with bitter wailing as for an only son, for suddenly the destroyer will come upon us.

When they say “peace and security” then there is sudden destruction. The claims of “peace, peace” were fake news. This is the problem with deceit, people don’t see the destroyer that is coming.

27 “I have made you a tester of metals and my people the ore, that you may observe and test their ways.

This is a test, we are being tested, will you stand for the Lord, are you truly walking by faith or by sight?
 

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Jeremiah 6:28-30 They are called rejected silver

28 They are all hardened rebels, going about to slander. They are bronze and iron; they all act corruptly. 29 The bellows blow fiercely to burn away the lead with fire, but the refining goes on in vain; the wicked are not purged out. 30 They are called rejected silver, because the Lord has rejected them.”

“They are called rejected silver” -- can’t get any clearer than that. He is talking about those who are left behind after the rapture.
 

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Interesting things to be aware of

Daniel 12: 12 Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.

If you count 1,335 days from the great sign of the woman that appeared 9/23/2017 during Yom Teruah, you would arrive at May 20, 2021, 3 days later is Pentecost and 3 days after that is a total lunar eclipse over the Middle East.

Although many of these numbers are intentionally confusing there are a few things that I don't think are easy to dispute. First, this great sign in the heaven from Revelation 12 that occurred on the Yom Teruah and has not been seen for thousands of years, that is significant. If it signals the start of Jacob's trouble, the ten years, that is plausible.

The second thing that I find it hard to dispute is that referring to those as "blessed is he that waiteth" would refer to the first rapture and not the second. The ones who miss the first rapture are those who were not waiting.

The other thing that is quite interesting about this year is that it is a jubilee year. Two things take place during a jubilee year:

Leviticus 25:9 Then shalt thou send abroad the loud trumpet on the tenth day of the seventh month; in the day of atonement shall ye send abroad the trumpet throughout all your land. 10 And ye shall hallow the fiftieth year, and proclaim liberty throughout the land unto all the inhabitants thereof: it shall be a jubilee unto you; and ye shall return every man unto his possession, and ye shall return every man unto his family.

Every man returns unto his possession and every man returns unto his family. The Earth belongs to the Lord and the rapture is when God's people return to him from the bondage of a sin sick world. This is significant since this is a jubilee year.
 

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Hebrews 7:1-4 -- What does Sodom and Gomorrah have to do with the First Rapture?

1 This Melchizedek was king of Salem and priest of God Most High. He met Abraham returning from the defeat of the kings and blessed him, 2 and Abraham gave him a tenth of everything. First, the name Melchizedek means “king of righteousness”; then also, “king of Salem” means “king of peace.” 3 Without father or mother, without genealogy, without beginning of days or end of life, resembling the Son of God, he remains a priest forever.

They give us an overview of the key points, but I think it is important to go back and read the whole story.

Genesis 14:1 At the time when Amraphel was king of Shinar,[a] Arioch king of Ellasar, Kedorlaomer king of Elam and Tidal king of Goyim, 2 these kings went to war against Bera king of Sodom, Birsha king of Gomorrah, Shinab king of Admah, Shemeber king of Zeboyim, and the king of Bela (that is, Zoar). 3 All these latter kings joined forces in the Valley of Siddim (that is, the Dead Sea Valley). 4 For twelve years they had been subject to Kedorlaomer, but in the thirteenth year they rebelled. 5 In the fourteenth year, Kedorlaomer and the kings allied with him went out and defeated the Rephaites in Ashteroth Karnaim, the Zuzites in Ham, the Emites in Shaveh Kiriathaim 6 and the Horites in the hill country of Seir, as far as El Parannear the desert. 7 Then they turned back and went to En Mishpat (that is, Kadesh), and they conquered the whole territory of the Amalekites, as well as the Amorites who were living in Hazezon Tamar. 8 Then the king of Sodom, the king of Gomorrah, the king of Admah, the king of Zeboyim and the king of Bela (that is, Zoar) marched out and drew up their battle lines in the Valley of Siddim 9 against Kedorlaomer king of Elam, Tidal king of Goyim, Amraphel king of Shinar and Arioch king of Ellasar—four kings against five. 10 Now the Valley of Siddim Was full of tar pits, and when the kings of Sodom and Gomorrah fled, some of the men fell into them and the rest fled to the hills. 11 The four kings seized all the goods of Sodom and Gomorrah and all their food; then they went away. 12 They also carried off Abram’s nephew Lot and his possessions, since he was living in Sodom. 13 A man who had escaped came and reported this to Abram the Hebrew. Now Abram was living near the great trees of Mamre the Amorite, a brother[b] of Eshkol and Aner, all of whom were allied with Abram. 14 When Abram heard that his relative had been taken captive, he called out the 318 trained men born in his household and went in pursuit as far as Dan. 15 During the night Abram divided his men to attack them and he routed them, pursuing them as far as Hobah, north of Damascus. 16 He recovered all the goods and brought back his relative Lot and his possessions, together with the women and the other people.

So if you read this carefully this is not some skirmish or raiding party. This has been war and conquest which has been going on in this area for 14 years. It seems to involve every single group of people being allied with one side or the other and fighting. And even though there are so many groups of people they have formed two alliances, one versus the other. The only thing is that it seems none of these “kings” (apparently all these different groups like to call their leader a king) included Abraham into their political machinations. So we have Abraham the father of faith and the household of faith rising up as an army and pursuing after them all the way to Dan. This is a very weird way to describe it as Dan is Abraham’s great grandson, and Northern Israel was not called Dan until long after Moses is dead. You are using the border of a coming kingdom to describe this particular battle.

17 After Abram returned from defeating Kedorlaomer and the kings allied with him, the king of Sodom came out to meet him in the Valley of Shaveh (that is, the King’s Valley).

The story makes it clear that Abraham was not in any way involved in the political future or present of Sodom, but rather his relative lived there so he went to save him.

18 Then Melchizedek king of Salem brought out bread and wine. He was priest of God Most High, 19 and he blessed Abram, saying, “Blessed be Abram by God Most High, Creator of heaven and earth. 20 And praise be to God Most High, who delivered your enemies into your hand.” We also see that God is involved because Abraham was involved. It was God who delivered the enemies into his hand.

Then Abram gave him a tenth of everything.

21 The king of Sodom said to Abram, “Give me the people and keep the goods for yourself.” 22 But Abram said to the king of Sodom, “With raised hand I have sworn an oath to the Lord, God Most High, Creator of heaven and earth, 23 that I will accept nothing belonging to you, not even a thread or the strap of a sandal, so that you will never be able to say, ‘I made Abram rich.’ 24 I will accept nothing but what my men have eaten and the share that belongs to the men who went with me—to Aner, Eshkol and Mamre. Let them have their share.”

First, Abraham swore an oath as he pursued the enemy, since God answered him he was bound by that oath. The oath was that all glory and honor would go to God. The king of Sodom was a liar and Abraham knew it, if he took so much as the tiniest trinket this king would rewrite the history that Abraham was his hired servant and that the king of Sodom had engineered this victory. This story resulted in praise and glory to God because God’s camp, God’s army was revealed to be the true power in the land.

4 Just think how great he was: Even the patriarch Abraham gave him a tenth of the plunder!

In this story we have God, we have the household of faith that has been built into an army, we have all the evil and corrupt worldly forces and we have Melchizedek which we learn here in Hebrews represent Jesus Christ in His ascension. Jesus is not declared to be a priest after the order of Melchizedek until He ascends to the throne. Not only so but He is the King of righteousness and the King of peace. This is a picture of Jesus Christ, glorious lord of all, coming to meet His people at the end of the age, after they have stood by faith to prevent their house from being broken into. This story depicts the coming of the Lord after His people win this victory through faith in Him. Many say “what does the US have to do with the Lord’s coming?” Well, what does Sodom and Gomorrah have to do with the Lord’s coming? There are two raptures of God’s people, in one the Lord Jesus likened it to Noah entering the ark with his family, and in the other He likened it to Lot escaping Sodom by the skin of his teeth. When fire falls on Sodom that is depicting the situation in the great tribulation and how some believers will be pulled from the fire. This depicts the rapture before that time as a reward and a blessing to those who were victorious over sin and death.
 

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Hebrews 7:5-28 Human governments are weak and useless at dealing with the corruption of sin

5 Now the law requires the descendants of Levi who become priests to collect a tenth from the people—that is, from their fellow Israelites—even though they also are descended from Abraham.6 This man, however, did not trace his descent from Levi, yet he collected a tenth from Abraham and blessed him who had the promises. 7 And without doubt the lesser is blessed by the greater. 8 In the one case, the tenth is collected by people who die; but in the other case, by him who is declared to be living. 9 One might even say that Levi, who collects the tenth, paid the tenth through Abraham, 10 because when Melchizedek met Abraham, Levi was still in the body of his ancestor.

This is talking about the church. We, for the most part, don’t trace our lineage to Levi. We are sons of Abraham because we believe. We are members of the household of faith because of our faith, not our flesh. On the one hand Jesus is a Jew and of the household of Judah. He is a son of Abraham, son of David. But on the other hand He is the Lord of glory, the eternal one without beginning or end.

11 If perfection could have been attained through the Levitical priesthood—and indeed the law given to the people established that priesthood—why was there still need for another priest to come, one in the order of Melchizedek, not in the order of Aaron? 12 For when the priesthood is changed, the law must be changed also. 13 He of whom these things are said belonged to a different tribe, and no one from that tribe has ever served at the altar.14 For it is clear that our Lord descended from Judah, and in regard to that tribe Moses said nothing about priests. 15 And what we have said is even more clear if another priest like Melchizedek appears,16 one who has become a priest not on the basis of a regulation as to his ancestry but on the basis of the power of an indestructible life. 17 For it is declared: “You are a priest forever, in the order of Melchizedek.”

“If perfection could have been attained”. This is what the book of James refers to, how to do a perfect work. When Hebrews tells us to move on from the elemental teachings it is telling us to move on from all the regulations found in the priesthood of the Levitical priests to the priesthood of Melchizedek. Keeping the regulations of the levitical priesthood can never make you perfect, only the resurrection life can do that.

18 The former regulation is set aside because it was weak and useless 19 (for the law made nothing perfect), and a better hope is introduced, by which we draw near to God.

What is the hope in the book of James? The hope is that we would become men like Elijah, men that God hears their prayers and answers their prayers. Men who can overthrow the wicked Jezebel by their prayers. Think about Karl Marx and the communist manifesto. A basic theme in this theory is that you have an oppressive ruling class and a working class that is being oppressed. Let's assume he was right, what is he going to do about it? All of these ones who complain about being oppressed and the leaders being corrupt, what are they going to do about it? No one has a solution. Recently one of the founders of the Black Lives Matter movement bought a 1.4 million dollar home in an an all white neighborhood (99% white). The communist rulers in China and Russia are just as corrupt as the Czar or KMT were. Being poor is not proof that you are not corrupt and being rich is not proof that you are. Communism has not made anything perfect, neither has democracy. They are both weak and useless at dealing with the corruption on display in Sodom and Gomorrah.

20 And it was not without an oath! Others became priests without any oath, 21 but he became a priest with an oath when God said to him: “The Lord has sworn and will not change his mind: ‘You are a priest forever.’”

This matter of the oath is an essential theme to the first rapture. Elizabeth, who gave birth to John, refers to our oath with God. Hanukkah is the feast of rededication, it refers to us renewing our vows to God. The story of Esther which is referenced in the book of Zechariah is also a reference to our oath with God. This story of Abraham refers to his living and walking according to his solemn oath with God. This is a two way street, those who are raptured in this first rapture have a solemn oath with God that they keep and in return He also keeps His oath with them. Joe Biden took an oath to protect and defend the constitution, two months later he is saying that the amendments in the constitution are not "absolute" and he is issuing executive orders that infringe on those rights. People who are corrupt will violate their oath.

22 Because of this oath, Jesus has become the guarantor of a better covenant. 23 Now there have been many of those priests, since death prevented them from continuing in office; 24 but because Jesus lives forever, he has a permanent priesthood. 25 Therefore he is able to save completely those who come to God Through him, because he always lives to intercede for them.

What is a priest’s function? When people need help that only God can provide they can go to the priest who will intercede for them. Our election was stolen and the US has been taken over by thieves. We need help. We have appealed to the law courts and the legislators and they have shirked their responsibility. We need the Lord. He made an oath to save us completely.

26 Such a high priest truly meets our need—one who is holy, blameless, pure, set apart from sinners, exalted above the heavens.27 Unlike the other high priests, he does not need to offer sacrifices day after day, first for his own sins, and then for the sins of the people. He sacrificed for their sins once for all when he offered himself. 28 For the law appoints as high priests men in all their weakness; but the oath, which came after the law, appointed the Son, who has been made perfect forever.