Summary of Bible references on the Rapture

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Daniel 9:24-27 Seventy sevens are decreed

24 “Seventy ‘sevens’ are decreed for your people and your holy city to finish transgression, to put an end to sin, to atone for wickedness, to bring in everlasting righteousness, to seal up vision and prophecy and to anoint the Most Holy Place.

Verse 24 is a very big verse. There is no need to read further until you understand this verse. The number seven is composed of 3 + 4. The number three signifies the triune God, the number four signifies the creation or specifically the four living creatures. The number 7 is God added to His creation. Seventy is 10 x 7. The number 5 signifies the responsibility of our hands and feet. It is 4 (creature) plus 1 (God). The things we do with our hands, our works, and the places we go with our feet need to be accountable to God. The number 2 is a testimony. The works of our hands and the paths of our feet need to be a testimony of God + Man. This can explain why they would be in Babylon for seventy years, it was a complete judgement on the sins of Israel both for the works of their hands and the paths of their feet. But what does ‘seventy sevens’ mean? This is a witness of both heaven and earth. The New Jerusalem is the ultimate consummation of the divine revelation. It will be a witness to both heaven and earth. This period of time, the seventy sevens is a time for the transgressions to be finished, to put an end to sin, and to atone for wickedness (to pay for what we have done). 1532 is when Portugal began shipping slaves to Brazil, it was the beginning of the slave trade. That was 489 years ago, almost 490 which is seventy sevens. Think of the prayers that have gone up to God in these last 490 years. Right now we are seeing transgression and sin and wickedness to an extent we could never have imagined. The lies and hypocrisy are astounding. The mainstream media is now quoting Mein Kampf referring to the questions surrounding the election as “the big lie”. They are calling for the deprogramming of 75 million Americans, passing laws that would make it illegal to question if elections were conducted honestly, and having loyalty pledges for government employees. It is as though we are watching the cup get filled to the brim with transgressions, sins and wickedness. Our Vice President is descended from slave holders and our President is closely aligned with the most racist senators in our history.


Meanwhile this period of time will be used to bring in everlasting righteousness, to seal up the vision and the prophecy, and to anoint the Most Holy place. That is the purpose of human history during this time. We have needed this time to learn about the consequences of sin, to learn that the wages of sin is death. Like a little seed sins grow and ultimately you reap death. A major focus of this prophecy is paying for these sins. Jesus' death “redeemed” us, He paid the price for our sins. The good news is that you can receive that by faith. The bad news is that if you don’t receive it then at the end of the age the bill will come due and if you haven’t received Jesus redemption then you will be required to pay the price. At the same time as sin has been getting worse and worse the Lord has been doing a secret, mysterious work with the church, His kingdom. The end of this age will not only result in the judgement of sin, it will also see the unveiling of the church, His kingdom established in righteousness. In addition to all this during this time we had the entire New Testament written. Finally, the most holy place signifies man’s spirit, when Jesus was crucified the way to the most holy place was opened and our spirit has been anointed with “The Spirit”. All of these things are being accomplished during this time, so don’t get distracted by the judgement on sin, that is only one small portion of what is being done.

25 “Know and understand this: From the time the word goes out to restore and rebuild Jerusalem


The seventy weeks begins with the word to go and rebuild Jerusalem. Daniel had been carried off to Babylon, Jeremiah told him they would be there for 70 years, at the end of this time there will be a decree to the Jews to return and rebuild Jerusalem. That word starts the clock on this ‘70 7’s’.


until the Anointed One,


The anointed one refers to “the Christ” or the Messiah.


the ruler,


The ruler refers to the Lord.


comes, there will be seven ‘sevens,’ and sixty-two ‘sevens.’



This accurately predicts the time that Jesus will come if you understand each week to equal 7 years.


It will be rebuilt with streets and a trench, but in times of trouble.


The books of Ezra and Nehemiah cover this period in Israel’s history where they returned and rebuilt Jerusalem and the temple. They describe having to work on the wall of the city with their sword by their side. It was a perilous time.


26 After the sixty-two ‘sevens,’ the Anointed One will be put to death and will have nothing.


“The anointed one will be put to death” refers to the crucifixion of Jesus.


The people of the ruler who will come will destroy the city and the sanctuary.


This refers to the Roman army that destroyed Jerusalem and the temple after Jesus' crucifixion.


The end will come like a flood: War will continue until the end, and desolations have been decreed.


This refers to the age of grace. There are other prophecies that go into this in greater detail, once Jerusalem and the Temple are destroyed there is a gap in the seventy sevens. It comes after 69 sevens and before the seventieth seven.


27 He will confirm a covenant with many for one ‘seven.’



Again, there are other prophecies that indicate that this “he” here refers to the antichrist. This does not refer to the covenant that God had with His people, that covenant has already been confirmed and would not be referred to as “a” covenant but as “the” covenant. Antichrist confirms “a” covenant with Israel and “with many” which we understand to refer to the UN for one seven, the last seven years of this age, which we call the tribulation.


In the middle of the ‘seven’ he will put an end to sacrifice and offering.


This verse indicates that the sacrifices and offerings have been renewed, as a result we understand this to mean that the Temple has been rebuilt. He “puts an end to the sacrifice and offering” again refers to the Antichrist breaking this covenant in the middle of the tribulation. The term “midst” sort of indicates the middle, and the middle of seven years would be around three and half years. This is why we think the tribulation is divided into two parts, the first half and the second half.


And at the temple he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him.”


This is very clear that the “he” cannot refer to the Lord or to God. It also makes it very clear that the temple has been rebuilt. There are other prophecies that confirm that it is the antichrist who breaks this covenant and sets himself up in the temple, which is an abomination.


This is a super simple summary. There are those who spend years on these prophecies. At first I was quite interested in them but as I spent more and more time in these teachings I began to realize they are like majoring in the minors. For example, every year we have a state exam in June for the students, a final exam for the year. Knowing when that exam is held is important. But knowing when the exam is is trivial when it comes to doing well on the exam. You will be judged on transgressions, sins, and how well you have made peace with God. Remember, as believers we don’t just get judged for sins we commit, we get judged if we see someone sinning and don’t tell them. These are the major points on this exam. We will also be judged on the works of our hands and the paths of our feet. We will be judged for the work we have done to build up the kingdom as fellow workers of God. We will be judged on our ministry of the word and the Spirit. These are the majors. Even if you never studied the prophecies of the Lord’s coming but take care of the majors you will do just fine at the judgement seat of Christ, on the other hand I suspect there will be a number of experts on the Lord’s second coming who will not do nearly as well.
 

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Esther 1 -- The government has become a non stop banquet for two parties.

1 It was in the days of Ahasuerus [Xerxes], the Ahasuerus who reigned from India to Ethiopia over 127 provinces. 2 In those days when King Ahasuerus sat on his royal throne which was in Shushan or Susa [the capital of the Persian Empire] in the palace or castle, 3 In the third year of his reign he made a feast for all his princes and his courtiers. The chief officers of the Persian and Median army and the nobles and governors of the provinces were there before him 4 While he showed the riches of his glorious kingdom and the splendor and excellence of his majesty for many days, even 180 days. 5 And when these days were completed, the king made a feast for all the people present in Shushan the capital, both great and small, a seven-day feast in the court of the garden of the king’s palace. 6 There were hangings of fine white cloth, of green and of blue [cotton], fastened with cords of fine linen and purple to silver rings or rods and marble pillars. The couches of gold and silver rested on a [mosaic] pavement of porphyry, white marble, mother-of-pearl, and [precious] colored stones. 7 Drinks were served in different kinds of golden goblets, and there was royal wine in abundance, according to the liberality of the king. 8 And drinking was according to the law; no one was compelled to drink, for the king had directed all the officials of his palace to serve only as each guest desired.

This is a story about a super power, a “rich” and “glorious” kingdom full of people in a non stop party. There are some people of God in this story but repeatedly we hear of everyone eating and drinking with the winebibbers. When I was growing up Presidential candidates would spend almost an entire year campaigning prior to the election. Since then it has grown to be more like 18 months. Recently influential people have been calling on candidates to declare their candidacy after the midterm election. The US is turning into a non stop political campaign between two parties. The King has his non stop party and the Queen has hers.

9 Also Queen Vashti gave a banquet for the women in the royal house which belonged to King Ahasuerus. 10 On the seventh day, when the king’s heart was merry with wine, he commanded Mehuman, Biztha, Harbona, Bigtha, Abagtha, Zethar, and Carkas, the seven eunuchs who ministered to King Ahasuerus as attendants, 11 To bring Queen Vashti before the king, with her royal crown, to show the peoples and the princes her beauty, for she was fair to behold. 12 But Queen Vashti refused to come at the king’s command conveyed by the eunuchs. Therefore the king was enraged, and his anger burned within him. 13 Then the king spoke to the wise men who knew the times—for this was the king’s procedure toward all who were familiar with law and judgment—14 Those next to him being Carshena, Shethar, Admatha, Tarshish, Meres, Marsena, and Memucan, the seven princes of Persia and Media who were in the king’s presence and held first place in the kingdom. 15 [He said] According to the law, what is to be done to Queen Vashti because she has not done the bidding of King Ahasuerus conveyed by the eunuchs? 16 And Memucan answered before the king and the princes, Vashti the queen has not only done wrong to the king but also to all the princes and to all the peoples who are in all the provinces of King Ahasuerus. 17 For this deed of the queen will become known to all women, making their husbands contemptible in their eyes, since they will say, King Ahasuerus commanded Queen Vashti to be brought before him, but she did not come. 18 This very day the ladies of Persia and Media who have heard of the queen’s behavior will be telling it to all the king’s princes. So contempt and wrath in plenty will arise. 19 If it pleases the king, let a royal command go forth from him and let it be written among the laws of the Persians and Medes, so that it may not be changed, that Vashti is to [be divorced and] come no more before King Ahasuerus; and let the king give her royal position to another who is better than she. 20 So when the king’s decree is made and proclaimed throughout all his kingdom, extensive as it is, all wives will give honor to their husbands, high and low. 21 This advice pleased the king and the princes, and the king did what Memucan proposed. 22 He sent letters to all the royal provinces, to each in its own script and to every people in their own language, saying that every man should rule in his own house and speak there in the language of his own people. [If he had foreign wives, let them learn his language.]

Then we hear of Queen Vashti, we don’t see her, but only hear that she refuses the request of the king to come to the banquet. Look at how polarized this country has become. This paints a picture of the rulers, so although the people running the country seem to be caught up in never ending banquets and the leaders' hearts being “merry with wine” it seems the women are even worse. Vashti expresses disrespect towards the king for all to see and that apparently struck home as every advisor was worried about how this would affect them at home and how it would affect others. The women were being emboldened to reject the “head of the household”. We saw this during Trump's presidency when the rancor with his administration was on full display for all to see.
 

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Esther 2 -- What superpower would pick a queen with a beauty contest?

2 After these things, when the wrath of King Ahasuerus was pacified, he [earnestly] remembered Vashti and what she had done and what was decreed against her. 2 Then the king’s servants who ministered to him said, Let beautiful young virgins be sought for the king. 3 And let the king appoint officers in all the provinces of his kingdom to gather all the beautiful young virgins to the capital in Shushan, to the harem under the custody of Hegai, the king’s eunuch, who is in charge of the women; and let their things for purification be given them. 4 And let the maiden who pleases the king be queen instead of Vashti. This pleased the king, and he did so.
So to replace Vashti they set up a beauty contest. Can you imagine a country, a superpower, choosing their queen by a beauty contest? Think of the US, in the US the constitution is king, and perhaps the Queen is our president. Can you imagine if our election process were to be reduced to nothing but a beauty contest?

5 There was a certain Jew in the capital in Shushan whose name was Mordecai son of Jair, the son of Shimei, the son of Kish, a Benjamite, 6 Who had been carried away from Jerusalem with the captives taken away with Jeconiah king of Judah, whom Nebuchadnezzar the king of Babylon had carried into exile. 7 He had brought up Hadassah, that is Esther, his uncle’s daughter, for she had neither father nor mother. The maiden was beautiful and lovely, and when her father and mother died, Mordecai took her as his own daughter.

This is a book of the Holy Bible, is it not? Esther is not “righteous” or “upright” or “holy”. She is not described like Job, she is not “the mother of faith”. In fact in this book there is very little reference to faith, or God, or the worship of God. We don’t see her kneeling in prayer like Daniel. No, she is “beautiful and lovely”. Sometimes the world becomes very arrogant, thinking God is a “goody two shoes” and is unable to step into the mix in their sordid, filthy world. Well surprise, surprise, God is well able to play their game. Apparently you aren’t allowed to mention God in this book, but that doesn’t stop God from moving and acting as a savior.

8 So when the king’s command and his decree were proclaimed and when many maidens were gathered in Shushan the capital under the custody of Hegai, Esther also was taken to the king’s house into the custody of Hegai, keeper of the women. 9 And the maiden pleased [Hegai] and obtained his favor. And he speedily gave her the things for her purification and her portion of food and the seven chosen maids to be given her from the king’s palace; and he removed her and her maids to the best [apartment] in the harem. 10 Esther had not made known her nationality or her kindred, for Mordecai had charged her not to do so. 11 And Mordecai [who was an attendant in the king’s court] walked every day before the court of the harem to learn how Esther was and what would become of her. 12 Now when the turn of each maiden came to go in to King Ahasuerus, after the regulations for the women had been carried out for twelve months—since this was the regular period for their beauty treatments, six months with oil of myrrh and six months with sweet spices and perfumes and the things for the purifying of the women— 13 Then in this way the maiden came to the king: whatever she desired was given her to take with her from the harem into the king’s palace. 14 In the evening she went and next day she returned into the second harem in the custody of Shaashgaz, the king’s eunuch who was in charge of the concubines. She came to the king no more unless the king delighted in her and she was called for by name.

This beauty contest is really hard to believe. They spend 12 months, can you imagine a campaign for President becoming a beauty contest that lasts for 12 months? Not only so there is one harem and then they are moved to a second harem. It is as though they have to first go through a primary before they get to the final round.

15 Now when the turn for Esther the daughter of Abihail, the uncle of Mordecai who had taken her as his own daughter, had come to go in to the king, she required nothing but what Hegai the king’s attendant, the keeper of the women, suggested. And Esther won favor in the sight of all who saw her. 16 So Esther was taken to King Ahasuerus into his royal palace in the tenth month, the month of Tebeth, in the seventh year of his reign. 17 And the king loved Esther more than all the women, and she obtained grace and favor in his sight more than all the maidens, so that he set the royal crown on her head and made her queen instead of Vashti. 18 Then the king gave a great feast for all his princes and his servants, Esther’s feast; and he gave a holiday [or a lessening of taxes] to the provinces and gave gifts in keeping with the generosity of the king.


So after this year-long campaign there is another great banquet, I guess we would call it the inauguration ball, and then we had a lessening of taxes. The timing is a little weird, it is the third year of his reign that Vashti displeases the king and after a year long campaign Esther becomes the new queen. It is similar to Hillary displeasing the American people who then choose Trump over her. That is followed by Trump dropping their taxes.

19 And when the maidens were gathered together the second time, Mordecai was sitting at the king’s gate. 20 Now Esther had not yet revealed her nationality or her people, for she obeyed Mordecai’s command to her [to fear God and execute His commands] just as when she was being brought up by him.

So Esther does have one redeeming characteristic, she obeys Mordecai’s commands to her. The Bible says to honor your father and mother with a promise that it will be well with you and you will live long on the earth. This is a central rule to this entire story. Vashti did not honor them and it was not well with her, nor did she remain long as queen.

21 In those days, while Mordecai sat at the king’s gate, two of the king’s eunuchs, Bigthan and Teresh, of those who guarded the door, were angry and sought to lay hands on King Ahasuerus. 22 And this was known to Mordecai, who told it to Queen Esther, and Esther told the king in Mordecai’s name. 23 When it was investigated and found to be true, both men were hanged on the gallows. And it was recorded in the Book of the Chronicles in the king’s presence.

So although we don’t see the Jews as a people of God in this story we do see them as a nation that is cohesive and looking out for each other. Esther is rewarded, she obeys Mordecai and in return Mordecai clues her in on something he overheard about a plot to overthrow the king. Perhaps Vashti hired someone to write up her own version of the “Steele Dossier” to slander the king. Maybe it was the phony baloney impeachment they did to Trump because of Biden’s corruption in the Ukraine. Maybe it was the FISA warrants that illegally spied on Trump’s campaign. Whatever it was they don’t tell us, simply there was a plot among the palace guard and Mordecai warns Esther who in turn warns the King and that in turn results in these plotters to be hanged. If Trump is reelected there will be a lot of convictions. Andrew McCabe will likely be convicted, Hunter and Joe Biden will likely be convicted, etc. The only plausible way that Trump gets reelected is if the allegations of voter fraud using Dominion and Smartmatic is true. If that is true it is likely that Clinton, Pelosi, and Feinstein will be convicted. I think we have many people who have an awful lot riding on Trump not being reelected. As a result you see them fighting tooth and nail to prevent any of these lawsuits or audits seeing the light of day.
 

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Esther 3 -- some weird coincidences

3 After these things, King Ahasuerus promoted Haman the son of Hammedatha the Agagite and advanced him and set his seat above all the princes who were with him. 2 And all the king’s servants who were at the king’s gate bowed down and did reverence to Haman, for the king had so commanded concerning him. But Mordecai did not bow down or do him reverence.

This is weird, two years after Trump was elected AOC was elected and the “squad”. What is weird is not that some extremist would be elected, but that everyone bows down to them. Schumer is afraid that if he doesn’t do obeisance he could be unseated. Pelosi also saw this BLM / Socialist wing of the Democratic party as crucial for her to stay in power and bows to them as well. But the conservatives, the deplorables, the "MAGA" movement did not bow down to them or show them any respect.

3 Then the king’s servants who were at the king’s gate said to Mordecai, Why do you transgress the king’s command? 4 Now when they spoke to him day after day and he paid no attention to them, they told Haman to see whether Mordecai’s conduct would stand, for he had told them that he was a Jew. 5 And when Haman saw that Mordecai did not bow down or do him reverence, he was very angry.

There is this wonderful picture of AOC glowering at another Democrat who is not bowing down to her.

6 But he scorned laying hands only on Mordecai. So since they had told him Mordecai’s nationality, Haman sought to destroy all the Jews, the people of Mordecai, throughout the whole kingdom of Ahasuerus. 7 In the first month, the month of Nisan, in the twelfth year of King Ahasuerus, Haman caused Pur, that is, lots, to be cast before him day after day [to find a lucky day for his venture], month after month, until the twelfth, the month of Adar. 8 Then Haman said to King Ahasuerus, There is a certain people scattered abroad and dispersed among the peoples in all the provinces of your kingdom; their laws are different from every other people, neither do they keep the king’s laws. Therefore it is not for the king’s profit to tolerate them. 9 If it pleases the king, let it be decreed that they be destroyed, and I will pay 10,000 talents of silver into the hands of those who have charge of the king’s business, that it may be brought into the king’s treasuries. 10 And the king took his signet ring from his hand [with which to seal his letters by the king’s authority] and gave it to Haman son of Hammedatha the Agagite, the Jews’ enemy. 11 And the king said to Haman, The silver is given to you, the people also, to do with them as it seems good to you.

Is this really how things operate in the halls of government.? He doesn’t even need to know what people or what is the issue with their laws or why they need to be destroyed? It is as though the media were reduced to the simplest of simple themes “orange man bad”. I guess when you are in banquets for 180 days that you don’t have the time or inclination to know more than that. For months we heard that the BLM protests were “mostly peaceful”. Buildings were looted, there were riots in the streets with burning cars, people attacked, police murdered. But it was “mostly peaceful”. One article had a title that "93% of BLM protests were peaceful". When I read the article they said they had investigated over 7,000 protests, I did the math and it turns out that 7% of the protests that they investigated that "weren't peaceful" amounted to over 500 protests in less than a year! Then when over 100,000 gather in Washington DC for a “stop the steal” rally they are described as a mob even though it was peaceful and orderly. Not mostly peaceful but wholly peaceful with people praying, singing hymns and calling for justice. That night the mob attacked individuals wearing Trump paraphernalia the same way wolves would pick off the stragglers from the herd. But instead of clearly saying the violence was from these BLM and ANTIFA thugs they simply say that “violence broke out”. The mainstream media has become so vague in their news as to be useless, just as this report from Haman.

12 Then the king’s secretaries were called in on the thirteenth day of the first month, and all that Haman had commanded was written to the king’s chief rulers and to the governors who were over all the provinces and to the princes of each people, to every province in its own script and to each people in their own language; it was written in the name of King Ahasuerus and it was sealed with the king’s [signet] ring. 13 And letters were sent by special messengers to all the king’s provinces—to destroy, to slay, and to do away with all Jews, both young and old, little children and women, in one day, the thirteenth day of the twelfth month, the month of Adar, and to seize their belongings as spoil. 14 A copy of the writing was to be published and given out as a decree in every province to all the peoples to be ready for that day. 15 The special messengers went out in haste by order of the king, and the decree was given out in Shushan, the capital. And the king and Haman sat down to drink, but the city of Shushan was perplexed [at the strange and alarming decree].

This decree sounds a whole lot like the Great Tribulation. A decree is made to destroy God’s people, they have been sold for 10,000 talents of silver. It seems to mirror the Lord being sold by Judas. This decree also sounds a whole lot like the "Executive orders and Executive actions of Joe Biden". People thought he would be a moderate yet he is clearly being controlled by the most extreme leftists trying to wipe out God's people.
 

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Esther 4 -- Mordecai did all that Esther commanded him

4 Now when Mordecai learned all that was done, [he] rent his clothes and put on sackcloth with ashes and went out into the midst of the city and cried with a loud and bitter cry.

This is what the stolen election is all about. The socialists have teamed up with those from China and Venezuela to destroy the democracy in this country. Biden and Harris are the ones that China chose to replace Trump, the media has done everything in their power to assist with this farce, the tech giants are censoring everyone who would cry out and keeping them out of the public square. We are seeing the history and books get “burned”. They deleted the entire Twitter account of someone called Stonewall Jackson, it is akin to a book burning. Amazon has deleted a number of books from their platform. Facebook and Twitter have permanently censored the previous president. They put up algorithms to limit who would see any posts by those critical of Biden or Harris, or those who were conservative voices. They have been pushed off these platforms to others like Rumble and Parlor.

2 He came and stood before the king’s gate, for no one might enter the king’s gate clothed with sackcloth.

What kind of rule is this? Censorship just like we see today. You are not allowed to say "election fraud" nor are you allowed to ask basic questions concerning the vaccine.

3 And in every province, wherever the king’s commandment and his decree came, there was great mourning among the Jews, with fasting, weeping, and wailing, and many lay in sackcloth and ashes.

What we have seen is that those who are most concerned about the loss of freedom and liberty are those who were previously the “silent majority”. Those who have a while ago come to realize that the main stream media was lying to them. You are seeing these people on these various forums mourning for what is happening. This is waking up the Christians.

4 When Esther’s maids and her attendants came and told it to her, the queen was exceedingly grieved and distressed. She sent garments to clothe Mordecai, with orders to take his sackcloth from off him, but he would not receive them.

So Esther is tuned into the mourning of the nation while the king and his various rulers are insulated from this.

5 Then Esther called for Hathach, one of the king’s attendants whom he had appointed to attend her, and ordered him to go to Mordecai to learn what this was and why it was. 6 So Hathach went out to Mordecai in the open square of the city, which was in front of the king’s gate. 7 And Mordecai told him of all that had happened to him, and the exact sum of money that Haman had promised to pay to the king’s treasuries for the Jews to be destroyed. 8 [Mordecai] also gave him a copy of the decree to destroy them, that was given out in Shushan, that he might show it to Esther, explain it to her, and charge her to go to the king, make supplication to him, and plead with him for the lives of her people. 9 And Hathach came and told Esther the words of Mordecai.

There was an interesting dream from a man called Dana Coverstone that he released today. In it Uncle Sam executes “Mr. Lincoln” (they get very upset when Uncle Sam refers to him as President Lincoln). It was reminiscent of Esther and Haman building a scaffold on which to execute the Jewish people. In our current world I would see this socialist movement in the US tied to these violent protests, riots and looting as a way to ultimately bring America back into slavery. Bannon's War Room Pandemic is a daily broadcast that is similar to getting intelligence briefings in the military. One thing about the "deplorables", they were the ones who were in the military, the elitists and leftists were the ones who avoided the military by staying in college.

10 Then Esther spoke to Hathach and gave him a message for Mordecai, saying, 11 All the king’s servants and the people of the king’s provinces know that any person, be it man or woman, who shall go into the inner court to the king without being called shall be put to death; there is but one law for him, except [him] to whom the king shall hold out the golden scepter, that he may live. But I have not been called to come to the king for these thirty days. 12 And they told Mordecai what Esther said. 13 Then Mordecai told them to return this answer to Esther, Do not flatter yourself that you shall escape in the king’s palace any more than all the other Jews. 14 For if you keep silent at this time, relief and deliverance shall arise for the Jews from elsewhere, but you and your father’s house will perish. And who knows but that you have come to the kingdom for such a time as this and for this very occasion?

This message was spoken loud and clear at the Washington DC rally for “Stop the Steal”. Stand up now and speak, or you will be on your knees for the rest of your life. This guy Mordecai reminds me of Steve Bannon who is all over the "feckless" politicians, but then really applauds the "fire breathers", those few who are truly courageous and have a backbone.

15 Then Esther told them to give this answer to Mordecai, 16 Go, gather together all the Jews that are present in Shushan, and fast for me; and neither eat nor drink for three days, night or day. I also and my maids will fast as you do. Then I will go to the king, though it is against the law; and if I perish, I perish.

I think there are some courageous people who are being revealed. They are challenging the election. We see them in the halls of congress refusing to acknowledge Biden’s claim to the Presidency until the States certify the vote, there are courageous whistleblowers who have signed affidavits, and I think the number is now over 2,000 affidavits. There are people praying for these ones to be protected at these rallies. Mike Lindell is a great example, getting the evidence out on the election fraud. Rudy Giuliani and his team are another great example, acting like pit bulls to get an audit of the election in Arizona. We see others in Alaska, Massachusetts, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Georgia, New Hampshire, etc. We are all praying, seeking the Lord in prayer and fasting to get this word out.

17 So Mordecai went away and did all that Esther had commanded him.

The rallies, the lawsuits, the investigations, the state legislators passing election integrity laws, standing up to the cancel culture, and news outlets like Bannon, Bongino, Tucker Carlson and many others sounding this alarm every day.
 

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Esther 5 -- This place is ridiculous

5 On the third day [of the fast] Esther put on her royal robes and stood in the inner court of the king’s palace opposite his [throne] room. The king was sitting on his royal throne, facing the [main] entrance of the palace. 2 When the king saw Esther the queen standing in the court, she found favor in his sight; and the king extended to her the golden scepter which was in his hand. So Esther approached and touched the top of the scepter. 3 Then the king said to her, “What is troubling you, Queen Esther? What is your request? It shall be given to you, up to half of the kingdom.” 4 Esther said, “If it pleases the king, may the king and Haman come this day to the banquet that I have prepared for him.”

This place is ridiculous, you can’t do anything without a banquet. It would be as though it is not good enough for someone to say we have evidence of voter fraud, we need to do an audit. No, you have to also have hundreds of thousands at rallies all over the country to give the media and the world a “banquet” where they can make this a huge media event. This is no longer “see something, say something” rather it is 2,000 people see something, sign an affidavit under threat of perjury, then get a few hundred thousand together to get a rally and have a big media event before these drunken leaders will take notice.

5 Then the king said, “Bring Haman quickly so that we may do as Esther says.” So the king and Haman came to the banquet which Esther had prepared. 6 As they drank their wine at the banquet, the king said to Esther, “What is your petition? It shall be granted to you. And what is your request? Even to half of the kingdom it shall be done.” 7 Then Esther replied, “My petition and my request is this: 8 if I have found favor in the sight of the king, and if it pleases the king to grant my petition and to do as I request, may the king and Haman come to the banquet that I will prepare for them; and tomorrow I will do as the king says [and express my request].”

Wow, my mistake. You won’t get them to notice until you do two big media events. You still need to launch websites and have the court jester (Jimmy Kimmel) interview Mike Lindell. Can you imagine if you had to jump through hoops like this to bring your request before God?

9 Haman went away that day joyful and in good spirits. But when he saw Mordecai at the king’s gate refusing to stand up or show fear before him, he was filled with rage toward Mordecai. 10 Nevertheless, Haman controlled himself and went home. There he sent for his friends and his wife Zeresh. 11 Then Haman recounted to them the glory of his riches, the large number of his sons, and every instance in which the king had magnified him and how he had promoted him over the officials and servants of the king. 12 Haman also said, “Even Queen Esther let no one but me come with the king to the banquet she had prepared; and tomorrow also I am invited by her [together] with the king. 13 Yet all of this does not satisfy me as long as I see Mordecai the Jew sitting at the king’s gate.” 14 Then his wife Zeresh and all his friends said to him, “Have a gallows fifty cubits high made, and in the morning ask the king to have Mordecai hanged on it; then go joyfully to the banquet with the king.” And the advice pleased Haman, so he had the gallows made.

Look at how gleeful they are? After the election we had AOC calling for “accountability lists” where they would black list anyone who worked on the Trump campaign. This is like the gallows that Haman had built. Various CNN anchormen repeated this with threats to people concerning their jobs and their future if they support Trump. This election is weird, it is almost as though instead of one celebration it will be broken into two. First Biden claimed to have won even though it wasn’t certified, Trump hadn’t conceded and there was pending legislation in many states. Then we see the gallows being built for all those who refuse to concede with the second celebration once Biden is inaugurated.
 

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Esther 6 -- Are you having trouble sleeping? If one falls they all fall.

6 On that night the king could not sleep; so he ordered that the book of records and memorable deeds, the chronicles, be brought, and they were read before the king. 2 It was found written there how Mordecai had reported that Bigthana and Teresh, two of the king’s eunuchs who were doorkeepers, had planned to attack King Ahasuerus (Xerxes). 3 The king said, “What honor or distinction has been given Mordecai for this?” Then the king’s servants who attended him said, “Nothing has been done for him.”

So now the leaders of this country cannot sleep. They are having a hearing on Twitter and Facebook use of censorship during the election. They now see that those who had been warning about the lies of the Mainstream media these big tech platforms have finally woken up to take this seriously. Newsom is being recalled, Cuomo is embroiled in scandal, school boards are being booted out, local precincts are being overrun with those concerned about the country. The polls that politicians rely on are out and out lies, the real numbers look more like 70% of the country rejects what they are doing. It is hard for a politician to sleep in this current climate.

4 So the king said, “Who is in the court?” Now Haman had just entered the outer court of the king’s palace to ask the king about hanging Mordecai on the gallows which he had prepared for him. 5 The king’s servants said to him, “Look, Haman is standing in the court.” And the king said, “Let him come in.” 6 So Haman came in and the king said to him, “What is to be done for the man whom the king desires to honor?” Now Haman thought to himself, “Whom would the king desire to honor more than me?” 7 So Haman said to the king, “For the man whom the king desires to honor, 8 let a royal robe be brought which the king has worn, and the horse on which the king has ridden, and on whose head a royal crown has been placed; 9 and let the robe and the horse be handed over to one of the king’s most noble officials. Let him dress the man whom the king delights to honor [in the royal robe] and lead him on horseback through the open square of the city, and proclaim before him, ‘This is what shall be done for the man whom the king desires to honor.’”

We now have a vaccine for Covid19, it was developed in record time. In January of 2020 we got the gene sequence of this virus and by March these companies were beginning human testing of the vaccine. The reason both of these companies moved with what is totally unprecedented speed is because the President stepped in to guarantee that the US would buy and distribute the vaccine. We did in two months what usually takes two years at the very least. So you might look at that and say yes, CNN is now giving Trump begrudging credit for this just as Haman probably did for Mordecai. However, Mordecai uncovered a plot to overthrow the king, what does the Pandemic have to do with a plot to overthrow the US? Great question, it turns out that the evidence that the virus originated in the Wuhan bioweapons lab is as close to irrefutable as we can get with the censorship and opaqueness of the CCP. We do know that it did not originate in the fish market as they claim and we also know that patient 0 is almost certainly a worker at the weapons lab. Finally, we know from the gene sequence that it is stitched together from 3 different viruses kept at that lab and that the odds of this happening by chance in nature is much greater than 1 billion to 1. OK, but again, what does this have to do with a plot against the US? There are only two ways this got out of the lab, negligence or intentional. As a rule you do not release a bioweapon unless you have the antidote and of all the countries that have been greatly hurt by this China seems to have suffered the least. That does not make any sense unless they already had the antidote. It seems that China would have no reason to damage the world’s economy until you see Hunter Biden’s laptop and realize that China has a vested interest in seeing that Joe Biden replace Donald Trump. A year ago our economy was doing so well that was not going to happen barring some economic catastrophe. The evidence is growing, China is trying to steal this election, Joe Biden and Kamala Harris are compromised, and yes, there is a plot to take over this country that may have been narrowly averted. We are also hearing the drum beats of war with Trump out of office. China sees an opportunity to seize Taiwan, Russia a chance to seize the Ukraine and Iran a chance to make nuclear bombs for Israel.

10 Then the king said to Haman, “Quickly take the royal robe and the horse, as you have said, and do this for Mordecai the Jew, who is sitting at the king’s gate. Leave out nothing of all that you have said.” 11 So Haman took the royal robe and the horse and dressed Mordecai, and led him on horseback through the open square of the city, proclaiming before him, “This is what shall be done for the man whom the king desires to honor.” 12 Then Mordecai returned to the king’s gate. But Haman hurried to his [own] house, mourning and with his head covered [in sorrow]. 13 Then Haman told Zeresh his wife and all his friends everything that had happened to him. Then his wise counselors and his wife Zeresh said to him, “If Mordecai, before whom you have begun to fall in status, is of Jewish heritage, you will not overcome him, but will certainly fall before him.”

One thing that is very interesting is the lack of attacks on the challenges to the votes in various states by high profile people. A week ago you could get Obama, Biden and Pelosi all condemning this. But today what you see is a couple of way out loonies on the internet that no one has ever heard of. These people were making the argument that looking for voter fraud is OK in white neighborhoods, but is racist if you do it in minority neighborhoods. Apparently we should not check to see if voters in minority neighborhoods are being disenfranchised of their voting rights as citizens and if we do then we must be racist? It doesn’t make sense, it seems that by definition any policy that is unevenly applied based on race is “racist”. But that is their claim. It is one thing to be a loonie but it is another to be a thug like the mafia. Not only do they make this lame argument about being “racist” but they then dox the county officials they didn’t like. That is they identified their address and where their kids went to school with the threat that harm would come to them if they did not change. So we have seen a huge change in status from a former President to a street thug in the last week. So what Haman’s counselors are telling him is you will certainly lose this battle. There is this desperate attempt to provoke a race war between whites and all other races in the US. Why? There is this narrative of how big a threat right wing extremists are when the numbers tell a very clear picture that this also is not true, why? I think they one they are truly afraid of is Christians, not the established Christians but the evangelicals. The evangelicals have a very large percentage of minorities. They want these minorities to see the whites as their enemy rather than the elites.

14 While they were still speaking with him, the king’s eunuchs (attendants) arrived and hurriedly brought Haman to the banquet which Esther had prepared.

They were desperate to keep their crimes out of the news but at this point close to 70% of Americans are aware of the lies and deceit from CNN, MSNBC, Twitter, Facebook, etc. They are beginning to fall. The audit in Maricopa county is supposed to be completed in 9 days, if it reveals election fraud then we will see other states like Wisconsin, New Hampshire, Georgia and Wisconsin all follow suit with their own audits.
 

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Esther 7 The church has been sold and is slated to be destroyed, slain and wiped out

1 So the king and Haman came to dine with Esther the queen. 2 And the king said again to Esther on the second day when wine was being served, What is your petition, Queen Esther? It shall be granted. And what is your request? Even to the half of the kingdom, it shall be performed. 3 Then Queen Esther said, If I have found favor in your sight, O king and if it pleases the king, let my life be given me at my petition and my people at my request. 4 For we are sold, I and my people, to be destroyed, slain, and wiped out of existence! But if we had been sold for bondmen and bondwomen, I would have held my tongue, for our affliction is not to be compared with the damage this will do to the king.

One thing that really bothers me is everyone assumes that these rallies are for Trump. That may be a motivating factor for many that are there, but what unites everyone who is there is the concern for our election. If China can control our election our democracy, our freedom, and the republic on which all of this stands will be gone. We saw what happened when NAFTA went into effect, how it turned Detroit into a wasteland and how the US lost all of our manufacturing. We saw how we went from a net exporter of oil in the 70s to a net importer and how these two things had destroyed our economy, turning us into borrowers and not lenders. All of these things have changed in just the last four years. Manufacturing is blossoming in this country due to the new trade deals and the US is now self sufficient in oil again. You can be sure if China takes over the US all of this will end. But even worse, look at what China has done to the churches? They have to have a portrait of Xi in the sanctuary and they have to sing the national anthem and teach CCP propaganda. The ultimate motivation is that the church will be wiped out.

5 Then King Ahasuerus said to Queen Esther, Who is he, and where is he who dares presume in his heart to do that? 6 And Esther said, An adversary and an enemy, even this wicked Haman. Then Haman was afraid before the king and queen.

Can you imagine having such a wicked person of influence in the government? There is a right way to petition the king and a wrong way. Vashti demonstrated the wrong way. Praying, putting your trust in God, being humble, but also speaking the truth is the right way. It is my hope that in nine days the audit in Maricopa county points the finger at who stole this election.

7 And the king arose from the feast in his wrath and went into the palace garden; and Haman stood up to make request for his life to Queen Esther, for he saw that there was evil determined against him by the king.

It is very interesting, in September of 2018 Trump signed a special decree concerning election fraud. It enables the US government to freeze the assets of those who are involved, not only in fraudulently changing ballots as Dominion is alleged to have done, or of intentionally miscounting votes as 234 affidavits in Michigan allege, or of favoring one candidate over another, etc. But it also allows the US government to freeze the assets of companies that attempt to aid the foreign interference with bogus polls or censoring information. There is going to be a very dramatic turn of events when the US is in a position to freeze the assets of Twitter, Facebook, Google, NY Times, Washington Post, CNN, MSNBC, NBC, CBS and ABC. This will cause very many people to come forward and testify. It is now dawning on all these companies that they have fallen into a trap.

8 When the king returned out of the palace garden into the place of the drinking of wine, Haman was falling upon the couch where Esther was. Then said the king, Will he even forcibly assault the queen in my presence, in my own palace? As the king spoke the words, [the servants] covered Haman’s face. 9 Then said Harbonah, one of the attendants serving the king, Behold, the gallows fifty cubits high, which Haman has made for Mordecai, whose warning saved the king, stands at the house of Haman. And the king said, Hang him on it! 10 So they hanged Haman on the gallows that he had prepared for Mordecai. Then the king’s wrath was pacified.

What is this “gallows”? They have been threatening to do blacklists so that anyone who supported Trump would never work again. That sounds like a “gallows”. They have been censoring channels on Youtube and using algorithms to ban them so that they do not show up on google searches or a search on Youtube. In this way they want to destroy the channels financially. That sounds like a gallows. There are people who have been doxing people, posting their personal information online as a threat. This gallows has already been made. When the country realizes they have been lied to and deceived by these evil ones the pendulum will swing to the other side. Platforms like Rumble and Parler will see a huge boost. Channels like Newsmax and NTD will see a huge boost. They have also passed racists laws that dole out government funded programs based on race. The Chinese fear the church and the Whites and are doing everything in their power to wipe them both out.
 

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Esther 8 -- The violent take the kingdom by force

1 On that day King Ahasuerus gave the house of Haman, the Jews’ enemy, to Queen Esther. And Mordecai came before the king, for Esther had told what he was to her. 2 And the king took off his [signet] ring, which he had taken from Haman, and gave it to Mordecai. And Esther set Mordecai over the house of Haman.

So then it is very possible that this current crisis will have a happy ending. Perhaps the “fake news” will get judged on the gallows they built and it will be a good day for democracy and the internet both. Zuckerberg is part of the conspiracy paying $400 million to put in the fix. We are not just talking about Haman but "the house of Haman". There are going to be a lot of politicians and "deep state" bureaucrats that take a fall for this.

3 And Esther spoke yet again to the king and fell down at his feet and besought him with tears to avert the evil plot of Haman the Agagite and his scheme that he had devised against the Jews. 4 Then the king held out to Esther the golden scepter. So Esther arose and stood before the king. 5 And she said, If it pleases the king and if I have found favor in his sight and the thing seems right before the king and I am pleasing in his eyes, let it be written to reverse the letters devised by Haman son of Hammedatha, the Agagite, which he wrote to destroy the Jews who are in all the king’s provinces. 6 For how can I endure to see the evil that shall come upon my people? Or how can I endure to see the destruction of my kindred? 7 Then the King Ahasuerus said to Queen Esther and to Mordecai the Jew, Behold, I have given Esther the house of Haman, and him they have hanged upon the gallows because he laid his hand upon the Jews. 8 Write also concerning the Jews as it pleases you in the king’s name, and seal it with the king’s [signet] ring—for writing which is in the king’s name and sealed with the king’s ring no man can reverse. 9 Then the king’s scribes were called, in the third month, the month of Sivan, on the twenty-third day, and it was written according to all that Mordecai commanded to the Jews, to the chief rulers, and the governors and princes of the provinces from India to Ethiopia, 127 provinces, to every province in its own script and to every people in their own language and to the Jews according to their writing and according to their language. 10 He wrote in the name of King Ahasuerus and sealed it with the king’s ring and sent letters by messengers on horseback, riding on swift steeds, mules, and young dromedaries used in the king’s service, bred from the [royal] stud. 11 In it the king granted the Jews who were in every city to gather and defend their lives; to destroy, to slay, and to wipe out any armed force that might attack them, their little ones, and women; and to take the enemies’ goods for spoil. 12 On one day in all the provinces of King Ahasuerus, the thirteenth day of the twelfth month, the month of Adar, 13 A copy of the writing was to be issued as a decree in every province and as a proclamation to all peoples, and the Jews should be ready on that day to avenge themselves upon their enemies. 14 So the couriers, who were mounted on swift beasts that were used in the king’s service, went out, being hurried and urged on by the king’s command; and the decree was released in Shushan, the capital. 15 And Mordecai went forth from the presence of the king in royal apparel of blue and white, with a great crown of gold and with a robe of fine linen and purple; and the city of Shushan shouted and rejoiced. 16 The Jews had light [a dawn of new hope] and gladness and joy and honor. 17 And in every province and in every city, wherever the king’s command and his decree came, the Jews had gladness and joy, a feast and a holiday. And many from among the peoples of the land [submitted themselves to Jewish rite and] became Jews, for the fear of the Jews had fallen upon them.

What we see here are two very specific issues. Haman was attacking the Queen, it was treason, and he was judged for it. However, he was also attacking the Jewish people as a whole. At the end of the age there will be two battles for the people of God. The saints who are raptured at the beginning of the Tribulation will be those standing for righteousness, obeying the word of God, and watching for the Lord’s return. However, after that there will still be many more of God’s people who will not be taken at that time and will need to “brace themselves” for the battle that is to come. This battle is not won by power or might, rather it is won by the Spirit of the Lord. That is the lesson. What is it that is moving in hundreds of thousands if not millions of people to stand up for righteousness in these rallies? It isn’t power or might, it is the Spirit of the Lord. Although it is very confusing it is clear that this pandemic is not being treated the same as other epidemics. First of all people get vaccinated for their personal health, not because other people need them to be vaccinated. If you are concerned about your health and need to be vaccinated then do that, you shouldn't get to impose your concerns on others. Second, some people should not be vaccinated. If you are immune it doesn't make sense to get vaccinated. Third, when calculating herd immunity you should include those who have previously had the disease. However, we don't see any of these concerns, they are demanding everyone get vaccinated despite their personal risk and despite being immune and they are not including people who are immune as part of the herd immunity calculation. It seems obvious to me that the concern to get everyone vaccinated is not based on science or based on public health but rather based on other concerns that those in power refuse to divulge. Not only so but the WHO did a terrible forensic investigation allowing China to tell them it didn't originate in the lab and just taking their word for it. Finally, with new variants in India, South Africa, Brazil and UK it seems absurd to talk about "herd immunity" any time soon. Vaccinating 300 million Americans will not result in herd immunity if 6 billion people worldwide are not vaccinated and instead are creating new strains for which our vaccine does not protect us.
 

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Esther 9 -- There must be a thorough reckoning

1 Now in the twelfth month, the month of Adar, on the thirteenth day of Adar when the king’s command and his edict were about to be executed, on the [very] day that the enemies of the Jews had planned for a massacre of them, it was turned to the contrary and the Jews had rule over those who hated them. 2 The Jews gathered together in their cities throughout all the provinces of King Ahasuerus to lay hands on such as sought their hurt; and no man could withstand them, for the fear of them had fallen upon all the peoples. 3 And all the princes of the provinces and the chief rulers and the governors and they who attended to the king’s business helped the Jews, because the fear of Mordecai had fallen upon them.

Have a backbone, trust in the fact that deep calleth unto deep. You are not the only one who will respond to righteousness and truth. There are people in every walk of life who will as well.

4 For Mordecai was great in the king’s palace; and his fame went forth throughout all the provinces, for the man Mordecai became more and more powerful.

It is critical that we are speaking the truth. These fake news sites sacrificed the only thing of value that they had which is that people trusted them to tell the truth. Once you lose that no one will listen to you anymore. If Mordecai becomes more and more powerful it is because people know that he speaks the truth and that they can trust him.

5 So the Jews smote all their enemies with the sword, slaughtering and destroying them, and did as they chose with those who hated them.

Our sword is the Spirit which is the word of God.

6 In Shushan, the capital itself, the Jews slew and destroyed 500 men. 7 And they killed Parshandatha, 8 Dalphon, Aspatha, Poratha, Adalia, 9 Aridatha, Parmashta, Arisai, Aridai, 10 And Vaizatha, the ten sons of Haman son of Hammedatha, the Jews’ enemy; but on the spoil they laid not their hands.

So who knows who these people were, but today the names are Facebook, Twitter, CNN, etc. However, you cannot touch the spoil! If anyone is doing this to get rich or plunder these companies they will be exposed and suffer the same judgement. The focus and goal must be on the truth and on righteousness.

11 On that day the number of those who were slain in Shushan, the capital, was brought before the king. 12 And the king said to Esther the queen, The Jews have slain and destroyed 500 men in Shushan, the capital, and the ten sons of Haman. What then have they done in the rest of the king’s provinces! Now what is your petition? It shall be granted to you. Or what is your request further? It shall be done. 13 Then said Esther, If it pleases the king, let it be granted to the Jews which are in Shushan to do tomorrow also according to this day’s decree, and let [the dead bodies of] Haman’s ten sons be hanged on the gallows.

Let’s be honest here, there must be a thorough reckoning. Treason is serious and that is what is taking place here. These people must be held accountable, we must have thorough investigations, thorough trials, we must clean up the corruption.

14 And the king commanded it to be done; the decree was given in Shushan, and they hanged [the bodies of] Haman’s ten sons. 15 And the Jews that were in Shushan gathered together on the fourteenth day also of the month of Adar and slew 300 men in Shushan, but on the spoil they laid not their hands. 16 And the other Jews who were in the king’s provinces gathered to defend their lives and had relief and rest from their enemies and slew of them that hated them 75,000; but on the spoil they laid not their hands.

Right now the US is being watched by the rest of the world with great concern. However, after this the rest of the world will look on us in awe, seeing how to stand up to the corruption that they live with every day. We will be that shining city on a hill.

17 This was done on the thirteenth day of the month of Adar, and on the fourteenth day they rested and made it a day of feasting and gladness. 18 But the Jews who were in Shushan [Susa] assembled on the thirteenth day and on the fourteenth, and on the fifteenth day they rested and made it a day of feasting and gladness. 19 Therefore the Jews of the villages, who dwell in the unwalled towns, make the fourteenth day of the month of Adar a day of gladness and feasting, a holiday, and a day for sending choice portions to one another.

According to Colossians the festivals and feast days are “a shadow of things to come but the Body is Christ”. We need to learn to pay careful attention to the calendar and the high holy days because they are significant, full of meaning, and are a prophetic vision of the future. Esther shows how this world will be judged at the end of the age. This book shows how the focal point for this judgement will be with this one superpower where you are not permitted to refer to God, where the leaders are chosen with a year long beauty contest, and where the people of God live. But even though they are in the world they are not of the world.

20 And Mordecai recorded these things, and he sent letters to all the Jews who were in all the provinces of the King Ahasuerus, both near and far, 21 To command them to keep the fourteenth day of the month of Adar and also the fifteenth, yearly, 22 As the days on which the Jews got rest from their enemies, and as the month which was turned for them from sorrow to gladness and from mourning into a holiday—that they should make them days of feasting and gladness, days of sending choice portions to one another and gifts to the poor.

You will learn to appreciate every person from the least to the greatest. You will see that your salvation came from people you never expected because you are both taking a stand for the Lord and it is by the Spirit of God that the victory will be had.

23 So the Jews undertook to do as they had begun and as Mordecai had written to them—24 Because Haman son of Hammedatha, the Agagite, the enemy of all the Jews, had plotted against the Jews to destroy them and had cast Pur, that is, the lot, [to find a lucky day] to crush and consume and destroy them.

They gambled and lost.

25 But when Esther brought the matter before the king, he commanded in writing that Haman’s wicked scheme which he had devised against the Jews should return upon his own head, and that he and his sons should be hanged on the gallows.

Basic principle, if you dig a pit you will fall into it.

26 Therefore they called these days Purim, after the name Pur [lot]. Therefore, because of all that was in this letter and what they had faced in this matter and what had happened to them, 27 The Jews ordained and took it upon themselves and their descendants and all who joined them that without fail every year they would keep these two days at the appointed time and as it was written, 28 That these days should be remembered (imprinted on their minds) and kept throughout every generation in every family, province, and city, and that these days of Purim should never cease from among the Jews, nor the commemoration of them cease among their descendants. 29 Then Queen Esther, the daughter of Abihail, with Mordecai the Jew, gave full power [written authority], confirming this second letter about Purim.

This is one of the holiest days in the Jewish calendar. The judgement at the end of the age will come, do not gamble with your life and with eternity, trust in God. Obey God, refuse evil, stand for righteousness. Let the law of God be imprinted on your mind.

30 And letters were sent to all the Jews, to the 127 provinces of the kingdom of Ahasuerus, in words of peace and truth, 31 To confirm that these days of Purim should be observed at their appointed times, as Mordecai the Jew and Queen Esther had commanded [the Jews], and as they had ordained for themselves and for their descendants in the matter of their fasts and their lamenting. 32 And the command of Esther confirmed these observances of Purim, and it was written in the book.

This book explains what Purim is
 

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Esther 10 -- This is the training ground

1 King Ahasuerus laid a tribute (tax) on the land and on the coastlands of the sea. 2 And all the acts of his power and of his might, and the full account of the greatness of Mordecai to which the king advanced him, are they not written in the Book of the Chronicles of the Kings of Media and Persia? 3 For Mordecai the Jew was next to King Ahasuerus and great among the Jews, and was a favorite with the multitude of his brethren, for he sought the welfare of his people and spoke peace to his whole race.

We are going to bring in the Kingdom of heaven to the earth during the millenial reign. If you hope to rule and reign as a king in the future this is the training ground.
 

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Zechariah 1 Return to Me and I will return to you

1 In the eighth month of the second year of Darius, the word of the Lord came to the prophet Zechariah son of Berekiah, the son of Iddo:

2 “The Lord was very angry with your ancestors. 3 Therefore tell the people: This is what the Lord Almighty says: ‘Return to me,’ declares the Lord Almighty, ‘and I will return to you,’ says the Lord Almighty.


We have been going over many, many verses throughout the entire Bible concerning the rapture which also includes the Lord’s return. Generally the go to question everyone has is when will the Lord return? The Lord turns that on its head, when will you return to Him? Can we all look at human history and see that the goal of all of human history is that we would return to God? It is as though we control when the Lord will return, we make the first move to return to the Lord and He will respond by returning to us.

4 Do not be like your ancestors, to whom the earlier prophets proclaimed: This is what the Lord Almighty says: ‘Turn from your evil ways and your evil practices.’ But they would not listen or pay attention to me, declares the Lord.

For example, many of the verses we have looked at, particularly from the book of Amos tells us to turn from our evil ways and our evil practices. Our ancestors refused to listen, they even refused to pay attention. Often I have thought what would I have done if I were in Germany as the Nazis began to take power? What would I have done if I were alive during the Civil Rights era? What would I have done if I were alive during slavery? In every case I hope I did not stand with the majority. When Mohammed Ali took a stand against the Vietnam war he was in the minority. When Oscar Schindler took a stand against the Nazi’s he was in the minority. You will never be able to take a courageous stand for righteousness if you do not listen and pay attention.

5 Where are your ancestors now? And the prophets, do they live forever? 6 But did not my words and my decrees, which I commanded my servants the prophets, overtake your ancestors?

Think about it? Jesus was killed when he was 33 yet His words have overtaken all those who killed Him. Here it is two thousand years later and the vast majority of those that died simply became dust without any more consideration, but Jesus and His words live on. Is it really more important to live till you are 80 if you have to live like a doormat? Would it really be so bad to take a stand, be a person you can respect, even if it means prison and death?

“Then they repented and said, ‘The Lord Almighty has done to us what our ways and practices deserve, just as he determined to do.’”

You have two choices, you can read the words of God with regret because you didn’t listen and you didn’t pay attention, or you can listen and pay attention and be thankful that God’s word was a light to your path and saved you.

The Man Among the Myrtle Trees

7 On the twenty-fourth day of the eleventh month, the month of Shebat, in the second year of Darius, the word of the Lord came to the prophet Zechariah son of Berekiah, the son of Iddo.

8 During the night I had a vision, and there before me was a man mounted on a red horse. He was standing among the myrtle trees in a ravine. Behind him were red, brown and white horses.

9 I asked, “What are these, my lord?”

The angel who was talking with me answered, “I will show you what they are.”

10 Then the man standing among the myrtle trees explained, “They are the ones the Lord has sent to go throughout the earth.”

11 And they reported to the angel of the Lord who was standing among the myrtle trees, “We have gone throughout the earth and found the whole world at rest and in peace.”

12 Then the angel of the Lord said, “Lord Almighty, how long will you withhold mercy from Jerusalem and from the towns of Judah, which you have been angry with these seventy years?” 13 So the Lord spoke kind and comforting words to the angel who talked with me.

14 Then the angel who was speaking to me said, “Proclaim this word: This is what the Lord Almighty says: ‘I am very jealous for Jerusalem and Zion, 15 and I am very angry with the nations that feel secure. I was only a little angry, but they went too far with the punishment.’

16 “Therefore this is what the Lord says: ‘I will return to Jerusalem with mercy, and there my house will be rebuilt. And the measuring line will be stretched out over Jerusalem,’ declares the Lord Almighty.

17 “Proclaim further: This is what the Lord Almighty says: ‘My towns will again overflow with prosperity, and the Lord will again comfort Zion and choose Jerusalem.’”


Here is the first vision. We see Jesus, not high and lifted up, but in a ravine. A ravine for those of you not familiar with hiking is a very tough place to be. It is caused by running water and you will have steep muddy sides. We see this man mounted on a horse to spread the gospel far and wide. The horses are red, brown and white, like people. This reminds me of the Song of Songs where the Lord likens the woman to a horse. This was the beginning of the age when we were given the great commission. The apostles were hiding in an upper room, it wasn’t a high and lifted up place, rather it was a ravine with steep muddy sides. The only choice they had was to follow the narrow path. These horses were standing among the myrtle trees. Again this reminds us of the book of Esther as Esther’s name was myrtle tree. Esther was a woman who took a stand for righteousness to bring salvation to God’s people and to bring in a kingdom established on righteousness. But then we learn these horses have gone throughout the entire land, this isn’t the beginning of the age it is the end of the age. At the end of the age all these believers from every tribe and nation are reporting to the Lord. The world is at peace and rest and they are praying about Jerusalem who has been punished for the last seventy years. Jerusalem was established as the capital of Israel in 1950. The entire world rejected this until 2019 when the US recognized Jerusalem and then in 2020 when the UAE and a number of other countries also recognized Jerusalem. At that time the Lord was proclaiming that He would return to Jerusalem and rebuild His house and measure the house of Israel.
 

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A vision of an intelligence briefing in an old western movie

I love this vision, it is like a scene from an old western movie. Jesus is the good guy, He is slowly moving up on the enemy, hidden in the ravine where they can’t see Him. The deplorables from town (the red, brown and white horses) are giving him an intelligence report that they are at peace and rest, clueless about His approach. When He said “draw near to me and I will draw near to you” this is what He was talking about. He is close by, in the ravine, drawing near. He said His coming would be like a thief in the night, that is the picture we are seeing here. Not only so but why are the horses red, brown and white? If they represent the different races of man where is the yellow? Red refers to the “redskins” that we found in America, but they originally came from asia. Any deplorable in Asia, working outside in the sun and wind will not look yellow, they will look “red”. The “yellow” refers to the elites and to the prostitutes in Asia. So we have Asians included here, but the common man, not many of the elites. Rather the “elites” are likened to myrtle trees, like Esther. These ones are strategically placed in the government. So we are looking at an intelligence briefing as the Lord draws near with His army. People are all concerned about “the deep state” and the NSA and the “surveillance state”. The Lord will have them in derision. Right now they are censoring the news and just like in the book of Esther you aren’t allowed to discuss certain topics like election fraud or question government policy on the pandemic. If you do have a question or concern then you are a “racist” and a “white supremacist” unless you aren’t white in which case you are an “uncle Tim” or a “Mexican who will never be white”. But as a result they are in the dark about what is going on. The enemy thinks he can tell people what to think, but they are paying the price, only 35% of Americans still trust them to tell the truth. They think their ratings are down by 40% but it is much worse than that. CNN is played at all airports and many other businesses with the sound turned off. No one is watching or paying attention but it artificially inflates their ratings. But the Lord is different. When you listen to “War Room Pandemic” by Steve Bannon, the highest rated podcast in the world and their ratings are growing exponentially, they are quite different. They present actionable intelligence that the listeners can use and act on. Not only so but they call the listeners the “war room posse” and pay attention to things that they have spotted. Bannon was trained in naval intelligence and runs his show like an intelligence briefing. If you read Esther it wasn’t simply Haman that was involved in the treason but rather “the house of Haman”. The first group hung on the gallows were 500. Think about that! These arrogant people calling themselves “the deep state” who are orchestrating this treason, it could be less than 1,000 people. The vast majority of people in the government are not involved and many are Christians listening to the Lord and walking by their spirit. It is not possible for these 1,000 or so people to do anything without others noticing. So while the enemy is clueless about what is going on pushing the “rest and peace” narrative we have a very clear intelligence about what is going on.
 

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Zechariah 1:18-21 Four Horns and Four Craftsmen

18 Then I looked up, and there before me were four horns. 19 I asked the angel who was speaking to me, “What are these?”

He answered me, “These are the horns that scattered Judah, Israel and Jerusalem.”

20 Then the Lord showed me four craftsmen. 21 I asked, “What are these coming to do?”

He answered, “These are the horns that scattered Judah so that no one could raise their head, but the craftsmen have come to terrify them and throw down these horns of the nations who lifted up their horns against the land of Judah to scatter its people.”


If we consider the history of Israel these two thousand years they were definitely scattered by the major powers (horns). Surely we would include Europe in that list, especially after what happened during WWII. We would also include Russia with their Pogroms against the Jews. From what I understand the Muslims worked with the Germans to persecute the Jews at that time so I would add them to the list. The other power that was involved with that crime was the Catholic Church. However, after seventy years the world has changed dramatically from nations having the power to multinational corporations having the power. I suppose the people who dominate cyberspace like Facebook, Amazon, Apple and Google could be considered “craftsmen”. There is evidence that this pandemic was a virus made in a bioweapons lab, so I suppose you could consider those that made the virus to be “craftsmen”. I have heard about the incredible things that they currently do with AI, not just to “serve man” but even more to manipulate and control man. I suppose they could be viewed as craftsmen as well. Finally, those that have made digital currency like Bitcoin can certainly be viewed as craftsmen as well. There is no doubt that these craftsmen are terrifying the powers that were.

But think about today, Biden is terrified by this audit in Maricopa county. The white hat hackers who have uncovered the foreign interference are "craftsmen" that are terrifying Biden. The lawyers who have been like bull dogs since November 6th are also craftsmen. The people who are setting up new platforms to get around the censorship: Rumble, Gab, Parler, FrankSpeech, etc., these are also craftsmen. Finally the journalists that are exposing CNN, people like Bannon and Bongino, these guys are also craftsmen.

I saw the funniest thing, they played a clip of Joy Behar having a meltdown, she was saying that she had told people there was no election fraud so why are they still going on about it? It was hysterical, she is like the last person to realize no one is listening to her, no one cares what she says. She has destroyed any credibility she might have had at some point.
 

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Zechariah 2 -- God is our Glory



Jerusalem is the underdog

1 Then I looked up, and there before me was a man with a measuring line in his hand. 2 I asked, “Where are you going?”

He answered me, “To measure Jerusalem, to find out how wide and how long it is.”

Think about that! Imagine measuring Jerusalem after AD 70 when Titus destroyed it. You would have thought it was done. If you consider the Lord’s earthly ministry as His “measuring Jerusalem to see how wide and long it is” then it certainly failed miserably. We have also seen the same thing recently as every year we get new poll numbers on how many Christians there are and how many are leaving the denominations and how many people are no longer affiliated with a church, etc.

3 While the angel who was speaking to me was leaving, another angel came to meet him 4 and said to him: “Run, tell that young man, ‘Jerusalem will be a city without walls because of the great number of people and animals in it. 5 And I myself will be a wall of fire around it,’ declares the Lord, ‘and I will be its glory within.’

If you look with your eyes on the outward appearance Jerusalem looks pathetic, but if you have faith in God’s word then Jerusalem is going to be overflowing with people and animals. So let’s change our perspective, how many cities on this earth have returned to their former glory after 2,000 years? If you consider the age of grace as a time of measuring Jerusalem how wide and long it is, then finding out how much grit, determination, and perseverance they have, then your impression would be completely different. The gospel we preach is one that has the power of resurrection and the fellowship of His sufferings.

The Odyssey

6 “Come! Come! Flee from the land of the north,” declares the Lord, “for I have scattered you to the four winds of heaven,” declares the Lord.

I am reminded of what I would often hear while preaching the gospel “religion is a crutch, I don’t need that”. The other day I was talking to someone about all the changes taking place in the public school system and what they should do. I suggested it would be very easy to set up homeschooling that meets in the church meeting hall. For kids in grades 1-8 it would be very simple. Basically you can cover the entire curriculum by simply reading books from the local library, watching documentary videos and using some online platforms to learn arithmetic and algebra. Get involved in the church choir, join local teams like baseball and soccer, and do arts and crafts every so often. However, this person didn’t go to church and so that wasn’t an option for them. Well, if that is the case you will be scattered to the four winds of heaven. It is a good thing that “you are strong”.



The good guys win

7 “Come, Zion! Escape, you who live in Daughter Babylon!” 8 For this is what the Lord Almighty says: “After the Glorious One has sent me against the nations that have plundered you—for whoever touches you touches the apple of his eye— 9 I will surely raise my hand against them so that their slaves will plunder them. Then you will know that the Lord Almighty has sent me.

We see three great story lines here. They are compelling, the kind of stories everyone loves. Everyone loves rooting for the underdog, everyone loves watching the odyssey of a heroic journey over 2,000 years going through pogroms and holocausts and Entebbe raids. But everyone really loves the “great escape” stories. That is the rapture. They have poked the Lord in the eye. This is like one of those Kung Fu movies where you provoke the Kung Fu master. This is the Western movie where the bad guys have taken over the town and “Shane” rides in to defeat the bad guys and let the good guys win.

Shock and awe

10 “Shout and be glad, Daughter Zion. For I am coming, and I will live among you,” declares the Lord. 11 “Many nations will be joined with the Lord in that day and will become my people. I will live among you and you will know that the Lord Almighty has sent me to you. 12 The Lord will inherit Judah as his portion in the holy land and will again choose Jerusalem. 13 Be still before the Lord, all mankind, because he has roused himself from his holy dwelling.”

Be still because the Lord has sprung into action. This is the shock and awe of a great action movie or war movie. The gospel we preach is awesome, so much better than the polluted drivel that comes out of Hollywood. Pick a message, pick a theme, pick a story. The church needs our own storytellers, we need to replace Hollywood and these NY publishers.
 

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Zechariah 2 -- God is our Glory

1 Then I looked up, and there before me was a man with a measuring line in his hand. 2 I asked, “Where are you going?”

He answered me, “To measure Jerusalem, to find out how wide and how long it is.”

3 While the angel who was speaking to me was leaving, another angel came to meet him 4 and said to him: “Run, tell that young man, ‘Jerusalem will be a city without walls because of the great number of people and animals in it. 5 And I myself will be a wall of fire around it,’ declares the Lord, ‘and I will be its glory within.’
I love this picture of them taking the wall away, that is precisely what Biden is doing right now at our border, with our economy, and with our military. I think many would argue that if you "measured" the US now it would not measure up to a superpower.

But this is totally of the Lord! What the enemy meant for Evil God meant for good.
 

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Zechariah 3 -- The Good Housekeeping Seal of Approval for a Christian

1 Then he showed me Joshua the high priest standing before the angel of the Lord, and Satan standing at his right side to accuse him. 2 The Lord said to Satan, “The Lord rebuke you, Satan! The Lord, who has chosen Jerusalem, rebuke you! Is not this man a burning stick snatched from the fire?”

3 Now Joshua was dressed in filthy clothes as he stood before the angel. 4 The angel said to those who were standing before him, “Take off his filthy clothes.”

Then he said to Joshua, “See, I have taken away your sin, and I will put fine garments on you.”

5 Then I said, “Put a clean turban on his head.” So they put a clean turban on his head and clothed him, while the angel of the Lord stood by.

6 The angel of the Lord gave this charge to Joshua: 7 “This is what the Lord Almighty says: ‘If you will walk in obedience to me and keep my requirements, then you will govern my house and have charge of my courts, and I will give you a place among these standing here.

8 “‘Listen, High Priest Joshua, you and your associates seated before you, who are men symbolic of things to come: I am going to bring my servant, the Branch. 9 See, the stone I have set in front of Joshua! There are seven eyes on that one stone, and I will engrave an inscription on it,’ says the Lord Almighty, ‘and I will remove the sin of this land in a single day.

10 “‘In that day each of you will invite your neighbor to sit under your vine and fig tree,’ declares the Lord Almighty.”




First, Joshua is symbolic of things to come. He is symbolic of Jesus who took our sins to the cross. It was as though Jesus put our sinful deeds (the filthy garments) upon Himself and when He was crucified He took away our sins in a single day. Fair enough, but what does that mean? I think Trump’s presidency illustrates exactly what that means, there are a lot of similarities. Trump was very clearly a sinner who had been snatched out of the fire and was made President, put into position to govern the country. For four years it was as though the media was pelting him with filth on a daily basis. For example they insinuated that his family was a group of grifters who were going to rob the nation blind. However, after four years we learn that it is Biden’s family that is a crime family of grifters, Clinton’s family was a crime family and Kerry’s family was also involved. The things they were accusing Trump of were the very things they were guilty of. Trump didn’t collude with Russia but Biden did. The term for this is “projection” and here where it says that “Satan accused him” it means that Satan was trying to “Satanize” him, Satan accuses us of everything he does.


But they also accuse those in this “MAGA” movement of being in a cult of personality movement. Cult is not well defined, I prefer false prophet, false christ and apostasy. Those terms are very well defined in the Bible. There is no doubt that Trump is a sinner and I have never heard one person try to say he wasn’t. However, that is very strange for a cult leader, they are often portrayed as a “christ like” figure, even the second coming of Christ, and hence “sinless”. The key thing about the false prophet and the false Christ is that they are “false”. They are liars, just like Satan. One thing about Trump, he wasn’t false, he spoke his mind the way a sixth grader might. But compare that to Biden and Harris because God has given us this wonderful contrast. If you were to rank the most racists senators and former senators still alive today Joe Biden would be #1. This would be based on the things he said, the bills he sponsored, and his close association with the KKK. Likewise Kamala Harris has a very spotty legacy with her actions in prosecutions in California as well as being descended from Slave holders. However, if you look at Trump he is praised for getting funding to the historically black colleges and for setting up economic zones in the inner city. Minorities did much better economically under Trump than they did under Obama and this will certainly be better than they do under Biden.


But think about this, all believers are kings and priests. All of us who stand for the Lord should expected to get pelted with filth from Satan who will accuse us. Many people were confused why would Christians support a man who was so obviously a sinner? There are two kinds of Christians, those who also were plucked from the fire, accused by Satan so that their clothers were covered with filth, and then given new robes by the Lord, and there are also those who are false Christians who have learned how to pretend to have new robes. If you have had the experience of being falsely accused and pelted with filth you aren’t going to shun someone who is going through the same. In fact you learn to judge people by who their enemies are. My feeling was that anyone who is an enemy of Satan is good enough for me. Think about it, Satan accusing someone, it is like receiving the “Good Housekeeping Seal of approval” for a Christian.


But let’s consider this image of a “brand plucked from the fire”. A stick could be burning bright, but pull it from the fire and it is going out. That is what the end of the age is like. It seems the light from the US is going out, it seems the light from Christianity is going out. The church is Philadelphia are all those who “have gone out” because the Lord promises them that they will not have to go out anymore. The Lord is referring to the Temple of God, the church. To be in the church in Philadelphia you had to have taken a stand, like the faithful Antipas who was against all. Perhaps you were excommunicated from Sardis (had your name blotted out). Perhaps Jezebel and her false prophets drove you out of Thyatira when you discovered the “deep things of Satan”. Once again, consider Trump, he was talking about “fake news” and the “deep state” and he was driven out. A three year investigation and two impeachments. Once again, for anyone who has had this experience you aren’t going to condemn someone simply because they are being investigated. I said from the beginning I welcomed the investigation and wanted to know the results. That was not true of most people, they just wanted a conviction and when that didn’t happen they got angry. To me I looked at the evidence and it convicted Clinton, the FBI, the FISA courts, and the media.


So how does the Lord take off the filthy clothes and give us bright white garments? Again, let’s use Trump for an illustration. He was accused of human rights abuses from Kamala Harris because of separating kids at the border. Since he has left office the “human rights abuses” of the border have skyrocketed and who is in charge? Yes, if Kamala Harris is going to point her finger at Trump then three of her fingers are pointing back at her because it is three times worse now. When you drive out Antipas from the church you learn that he was the one with the light and the life. You snuffed out your own light and death follows. Thyatira and Sardis drive out the true believers and ultimately they become Laodicea, a dried up husk of the real thing.


What we need as a priest and ruler is a stone, someone with backbone that can stand up to the thieves, a stone that can slay the giants. Jesus was the “engraved stone”. He was engraved on the cross. This stone has seven eyes, that is right, all the true believers are also engraved stones and become the eyes of the church. They have discernment, they can identify Satan and they can identify Joshua.
 

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When they attacked Mike Lindell, Rudy Giuliani, Matt Gaetz and Marjorie Taylor Greene in the mainstream media it was as though the Lord was pointing them out and saying "look at how much Satan doesn't like these ones!" That was a great reference to me.
 

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I was thinking why would Israel or anyone want a leader, a ruler, whose garments were covered with filth? I was reminded of when I played football, sometimes you would play on a rainy, muddy day. When the game was over some players were completely covered in mud and yet there would always be one or two who were pristine, not a drop of mud on them. Those were the kids who sat on the bench and never played, "never got their hands dirty". I was also reminded of a movie "Hacksaw Ridge" about a man of faith who was led by the Lord to join the army to fight in WWII but was convicted to not carry a gun. He was a medic and during the worst fighting he was saving people. When that battle was over he was covered in mud and blood and guts. For soldiers being covered in mud, blood and guts at the end of the battle is evidence that you were in the middle of it. The same is true of farmers, doctors and construction workers.

So then I thought about it the other way, who doesn't get mud and blood on their clothes when they work? Politicians, bankers and lawyers don't, they can wear a nice suit to work. But spiritually if you send thousands to die in a phony war you have blood on your garments before the Lord and if you rob widows of their houses in the mortgage crisis your garments are covered in filth.
 

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Zechariah 4 Wake up, look at what the Lord has built

1 Then the angel who talked with me returned and woke me up, like someone awakened from sleep. 2 He asked me, “What do you see?”

I answered, “I see a solid gold lampstand with a bowl at the top and seven lamps on it, with seven channels to the lamps. 3 Also there are two olive trees by it, one on the right of the bowl and the other on its left.”

4 I asked the angel who talked with me, “What are these, my lord?”

5 He answered, “Do you not know what these are?”

“No, my lord,” I replied.

6 So he said to me, “This is the word of the Lord to Zerubbabel: ‘Not by might nor by power, but by my Spirit,’ says the Lord Almighty.

7 “What are you, mighty mountain? Before Zerubbabel you will become level ground. Then he will bring out the capstone to shouts of ‘God bless it! God bless it!’”

8 Then the word of the Lord came to me: 9 “The hands of Zerubbabel have laid the foundation of this temple; his hands will also complete it. Then you will know that the Lord Almighty has sent me to you.

10 “Who dares despise the day of small things, since the seven eyes of the Lord that range throughout the earth will rejoice when they see the chosen capstone in the hand of Zerubbabel?”

11 Then I asked the angel, “What are these two olive trees on the right and the left of the lampstand?”

12 Again I asked him, “What are these two olive branches beside the two gold pipes that pour out golden oil?”

13 He replied, “Do you not know what these are?”

“No, my lord,” I said.

14 So he said, “These are the two who are anointed to serve the Lord of all the earth.”

We need to wake up and see what it is we are building. What is the church? We are a light set on a hill for the whole world to see. This light exposes the darkness, the corruption, the lies, the deceits, the murders. This lamp is not a single light but is seven in one. We shine a light concerning righteousness, and justice. Listen to those in the world and they don’t even know what truth is, they will claim that good is evil and evil is good. They need the light from the word and from the Spirit. But that is only one aspect of the light, we also shine a light on education. We are commanded to teach our children. Education is the key to the Civil rights movement. Pharaoh and the elites lord it over the rest of people because of their education. The Lord said you shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free. But we are also a light for making peace. Wars are costly, destructive, and evil. Showing people the way of the cross to make peace and to live in harmony with one another, that is a bright light. No one knows this light except for the Lord Jesus and those that take up their cross and follow Him. If you leave the criminal justice system to the word it will become abusive and biased. If you leave the education system to the world it will become abusive and a way to keep people enslaved. If you leave national defense to the world they will destroy themselves and the world. This light also shines on the banking system. The world’s monetary policy is built on the worship of idols, it is vanity, and it is evil. They have a system whereby they can rob widows houses and then make long complicated prayers that few understand to befuddle and confuse the masses. This is a golden lampstand, it isn’t made of vanity and wisps of smoke, it is real, it is substantial, and the light will expose the crooks. We are also a light to the bureaucratic system of government, all those functions carried out by the non elected officials. The church carries out all those functions as well, but has to do it on a shoe string budget. The ministry leaders are not insulated by layers and layers of bureaucracy from those they are serving. They get their hands dirty, they serve the soup, they visit the sick. We have much more light and insight than some government official making two hundred thousand a year working in an ivory tower. We are also a light to the mainstream media and the movie industry. Every major literary theme is found in the Bible. We are filled with amazing, captivating stories that edify and uplift. We are also trained in speaking the truth in love. We are also a light to families. The Lord has ordained that the elders of the church be a positive example for fathers and mothers. The church is to be a giant family so that broken families can enter the fellowship and be healed. At the most fundamental level we need healthy families to have a healthy society. The source of most of our ills whether with crime, or education, or public services is to deal with the destruction that accompanies broken families.


We need a vision, what we are doing in the church is creating a godly government that will both build the society and rule. We are not occupying some independent space from the government. Only a fool would think that unbelievers, people without faith or the knowledge of God’s word, people ruled by the lusts of the flesh, could do a better job, much less even a good job of ruling and reigning. Make no mistake, the church will replace human government. However, it is not by might nor by power. We don’t take over with a military as they tried during the Crusades. We don’t take over with political lobbies and pushing our platform and backing our candidates. It is by the Spirit. It is by the preaching of the gospel, sharing our testimony, bringing people to the Lord and winning souls for the Lord. When people give their hearts to the Lord then the mind and body will follow.


The church is supported with two ministries, the building ministry and the ruling ministry. These ministries simply sink their roots into the word of God and produce pure oil for life and light. Remember the key question “when is the Lord coming?” to which the Lord answers “When will you be ready?”