Summary of Bible references on the Rapture

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Daniel and the Messiah Part 2 continued by Rabbi Baruch

We have learned already that when Messiah returns to earth to establish His Kingdom, He will arrive from the clouds at the Mount of Olives. He will descend the mountain, much like when He entered Jerusalem (Forty years before the destruction of the Second Temple), a few days prior to laying down His life as the Passover sacrifice. This time He will enter the city through the eastern gate and then proceed to the Temple. The final proof that the true Messiah will give that He is the Son of G-d is that He will enter the Holy of Holies. Scripture forbids any man from entering the Holy of Holies except the High Priest and he may only enter on Yom HaKippurim (Day of Atonement).
Remember what we learned about Moses, he entered the Holy of Holies even though he was not the High Priest. Moses was seen as the “first redeemer” and he entered the Holy of Holies in order to inaugurate the service of the Tabernacle in the wilderness. Messiah will enter the Holy of Holies in order to inaugurate the Kingdom of G-d upon earth. He will not speak to G-d, but He will sit upon the covering of the Ark of the Covenant showing that He is indeed G-d in bodily form. This seat will be from where the Messiah will reign as King Moshiach.

There is an interesting reference to this in the New Covenant. Once Jesus was pacing in the Temple area in a place called Solomon’s hall. This place is very close to the Holy of Holies and it was during Chanukah; which some authorities see as an appropriate time for Messiah to reveal Himself and inaugurate the Kingdom (more will be said about Chanukah and Messiah later on in this article). The text says,

The Pharisees surrounded Him and said to Him, ‘How long do you keep us in suspense; if you are the Messiah tell us plainly’.” John 10:24

The Pharisees knew the tradition about Messiah entering the Holy of Holies and ruling from there. Therefore they asked Jesus to prove that He was the Messiah and enter into the sacred place. They knew that if He was not the Messiah and entered into the holy place then He would die like the sons of Aaron—Nadav and Avihu (see Lev. 10). So why did not Jesus give them this proof? It was not the proper time for Him to enter the Holy of Holies. This event is a Second Coming event and not to be done during the first time He was here; therefore He refused.

After the false messiah enters the Holy of Holies and commits the Abomination of Desolation, G-d will gather all believers to Messiah in the Clouds,

Then the L-rd Himself (Messiah) will descend from the heavens with the call of the commandment and the voice of the arch angel (Michael) and with sound of the shofar of G-d and the dead who belong in Messiah will rise first and after that we who are still alive will be taken together with them in the clouds to meet the L-rd (Messiah) in the air and thus we will be with the L-rd forever.” 1 Thess. 4:16-17


It will be immediately after this event that an awful time of persecution will take place upon the Jewish people. This intense time of tribulation upon Israel will be satanic retribution on Jewish people for refusing to worship the false messiah. The prophet Jeremiah spoke of this time of tribulation and revealed that as horrible as the suffering will be, nevertheless Israel will be saved.

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Jesus expounds the feast of Hanukkah

Luke 21:5 And as some spake of the temple, how it was adorned with goodly stones and gifts, he said, 6 As for these things which ye behold, the days will come, in the which there shall not be left one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.

The Temple was destroyed so that one stone was not left upon another because God tore it down. We are living stones, Jesus is the chief cornerstone, God is building His ecclesia and the gates of Hades shall not prevail against it. We are being built into a Holy temple in the Lord. When this temple is complete it will need to be dedicated. Enoch was a type of the rapture and his name means dedicated. This means to be set apart, to be sanctified, hallowed, dedicated. The church age begins with the tearing down of the Jewish temple which had rejected Jesus. Then during the church age the church was built. At the end of the church age the church is revealed as the Lord's masterpiece and is dedicated to Him. That is what marriage is and that is what the rapture is all about. These are the dedicated ones. Think of these two things as bookends, you have 70AD as one bookend and the rapture as the other bookend.

8 And he said, Take heed that ye be not deceived: for many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and the time draweth near: go ye not therefore after them.

This is a reference to the spirit of antichrist and all the counterfeits to the Messiah, the anointed one, the savior of the world. Once again, just as this age began so will it end.

9 But when ye shall hear of wars and commotions, be not terrified: for these things must first come to pass; but the end is not by and by.

This also reminds me of Hanukkah. The desecration of the temple requiring it to be rededicated, Antiochus Ephiphanes and all these false messiahs, pretenders to the throne, and the threat of war.

12 But before all these, they shall lay their hands on you, and persecute you, delivering you up to the synagogues, and into prisons, being brought before kings and rulers for my name's sake.

This also is the story of Hanukkah. We are to be a testimony, a shining light in the midst of an evil and perverted age.

16 And ye shall be betrayed both by parents, and brethren, and kinsfolks, and friends; and some of you shall they cause to be put to death.

This also was part of the playbook during Hanukkah. There is no other feast day where you can see this betrayal.

17 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake.

This also was the case with Hanukkah, truly a New Testament feast giving us a preview of the church age.

20 And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh. 21 Then let them which are in Judaea flee to the mountains; and let them which are in the midst of it depart out; and let not them that are in the countries enter thereinto.

This whole chapter sounds like a reference to Hanukkah.
 

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Zechariah 2 -- True Grit

Jerusalem is the underdog

1 Then I looked up, and there before me was a man with a measuring line in his hand. 2 I asked, “Where are you going?” He answered me, “To measure Jerusalem, to find out how wide and how long it is.”

Think about that! Imagine measuring Jerusalem after AD 70 when Titus destroyed it. You would have thought it was done. Consider the Lord’s earthly ministry as His “measuring Jerusalem to see how wide and long it is”. We have also seen the same thing recently as every year we get new poll numbers on how many Christians there are and how many are leaving the denominations and how many people are no longer affiliated with a church, etc.

3 While the angel who was speaking to me was leaving, another angel came to meet him 4 and said to him: “Run, tell that young man, ‘Jerusalem will be a city without walls because of the great number of people and animals in it. 5 And I myself will be a wall of fire around it,’ declares the Lord, ‘and I will be it's glory within.’

If you look with your eyes on the outward appearance Jerusalem looked pathetic in 70AD, but if you have faith in God’s word then Jerusalem is going to be overflowing with people and animals. So let’s change our perspective, how many cities on this earth have returned to their former glory after 2,000 years? If you consider the age of grace as a time of measuring Jerusalem how wide and long it is, finding out how much grit, determination, and perseverance they have, then your impression would be completely different. The gospel we preach is one that has the power of resurrection and the fellowship of His sufferings. Our Western movie is now becoming a movie called "True Grit".

The Odyssey

6 “Come! Come! Flee from the land of the north,” declares the Lord, “for I have scattered you to the four winds of heaven,” declares the Lord.

I am reminded of what I would often hear while preaching the gospel “religion is a crutch, I don’t need that”. The other day I was talking to someone about all the changes taking place in the public school system and what they should do. I suggested it would be very easy to set up homeschooling that meets in the church meeting hall. For kids in grades 1-8 it would be very simple. Basically you can cover the entire curriculum by simply reading books from the local library, watching documentary videos and using some online platforms to learn arithmetic and algebra. Get involved in the church choir, join local teams like baseball and soccer, and do arts and crafts every so often. However, this person didn’t go to church and so that wasn’t an option for them. Well, if that is the case you will be scattered to the four winds of heaven. It is a good thing that “you are strong”. Why did the Lord scatter them in 70AD? They rejected Him.

The Lord of Glory rides to the rescue

7 “Come, Zion! Escape, you who live in Daughter Babylon!” 8 For this is what the Lord Almighty says: “After the Glorious One has sent me against the nations that have plundered you—for whoever touches you touches the apple of his eye— 9 I will surely raise my hand against them so that their slaves will plunder them. Then you will know that the Lord Almighty has sent me.

We see three great story lines here. They are compelling, the kind of stories everyone loves. Everyone loves rooting for the underdog, everyone loves watching the odyssey of a heroic journey over 2,000 years going through pogroms and holocausts and Entebbe raids. But everyone really loves the “great escape” stories. That is the rapture. They have poked the Lord in the eye. This is like one of those Kung Fu movies where you provoke the Kung Fu master. This is the Western movie where the bad guys have taken over the town and “Shane” rides in to defeat the bad guys and let the good guys win. We are plundered, bullied, cheated, and abused and then the Lord of Glory rides in. The Glorious one heard our prayers and sent the Lord of glory and He will raise His hand against these nations that thought to touch the church. When this hand of wrath hits the world you will know that the Lord Almighty has sent Him. So there is a double entendre here. "Come, Zion! Escape, you who live in Daughter of Babylon!" This is like the word to come out her my people. The Lord's hand will be raised against Babylon, you don't want to be in her when that happens. So He is calling for us to come out of her, to escape. Remember the vaccine mandate, take their shot or give up your job? The Lord is sovereign over everything, this is His call to us to come out of her my people. Coming out of her is our "escape". However, our escape is also the rapture. So it is like a two step process, we take a step to say I will not comply, you refuse to employ me that is fine, I'll leave your city and shake the dust off my feet. That is our taking the first step to escape. They in turn will threaten to destroy us, just like Pharaoh chasing the Israelites in the desert to kill them at the Red Sea. Then the rapture will be God responding to us, snatching us out of harms way so that we could make a full escape.

Shock and awe

10 “Shout and be glad, Daughter Zion. For I am coming, and I will live among you,” declares the Lord. 11 “Many nations will be joined with the Lord in that day and will become my people. I will live among you and you will know that the Lord Almighty has sent me to you. 12 The Lord will inherit Judah as his portion in the holy land and will again choose Jerusalem. 13 Be still before the Lord, all mankind, because he has roused himself from his holy dwelling.”

Be still because the Lord has sprung into action. This is the shock and awe of a great action movie or war movie. The gospel we preach is awesome, so much better than the polluted drivel that comes out of Hollywood. Pick a message, pick a theme, pick a story. The church needs our own storytellers, we need to replace Hollywood and these NY publishers. But just like the Red Sea story, destroying Pharaoh's army was nothing to God, the big thing was to get the people to be filled with faith to leave Egypt and go to Him.
 

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Zechariah 3 -- The Good Housekeeping Seal of Approval for a Christian

1 Then he showed me Joshua the high priest standing before the angel of the Lord, and Satan standing at his right side to accuse him. 2 The Lord said to Satan, “The Lord rebuke you, Satan! The Lord, who has chosen Jerusalem, rebuke you! Is not this man a burning stick snatched from the fire?” 3 Now Joshua was dressed in filthy clothes as he stood before the angel. 4 The angel said to those who were standing before him, “Take off his filthy clothes.” Then he said to Joshua, “See, I have taken away your sin, and I will put fine garments on you.” 5 Then I said, “Put a clean turban on his head.” So they put a clean turban on his head and clothed him, while the angel of the Lord stood by. 6 The angel of the Lord gave this charge to Joshua: 7 “This is what the Lord Almighty says: ‘If you will walk in obedience to me and keep my requirements, then you will govern my house and have charge of my courts, and I will give you a place among these standing here. 8 “‘Listen, High Priest Joshua, you and your associates seated before you, who are men symbolic of things to come: I am going to bring my servant, the Branch. 9 See, the stone I have set in front of Joshua! There are seven eyes on that one stone, and I will engrave an inscription on it,’ says the Lord Almighty, ‘and I will remove the sin of this land in a single day. 10 “‘In that day each of you will invite your neighbor to sit under your vine and fig tree,’ declares the Lord Almighty.”

First, Joshua is symbolic of things to come. He is symbolic of Jesus who took our sins to the cross. It was as though Jesus put our sinful deeds (the filthy garments) upon Himself and when He was crucified He took away our sins in a single day. Fair enough, but what does that mean? I think Trump’s presidency illustrates exactly what that means, there are a lot of similarities. Trump was very clearly a sinner who had been snatched out of the fire and was made President, put into position to govern the country. For four years it was as though the media was pelting him with filth on a daily basis. For example they insinuated that his family was a group of grifters who were going to rob the nation blind. However, after four years we learn that it is Biden’s family that is a crime family of grifters, Clinton’s family was a crime family and Kerry’s family was. The things they were accusing Trump of were the very things they were guilty of. Trump didn’t collude with Russia but Biden did. The term for this is “projection” and here where it says that “Satan accused him” it means that Satan was trying to “Satanize” him, Satan accuses us of everything he does.

But they also accuse those in this “MAGA” movement of being in a cult of personality movement. Cult is not well defined, I prefer false prophet, false christ and apostasy. Those terms are very well defined in the Bible. There is no doubt that Trump is a sinner and I have never heard one person try to say he wasn’t. However, that is very strange for a cult leader, they are often portrayed as a “christ like” figure, even the second coming of Christ, and hence “sinless”. The key thing about the false prophet and the false Christ is that they are “false”. They are liars, just like Satan. One thing about Trump, he wasn’t false, he spoke his mind the way a sixth grader might. But compare that to Biden and Harris because God has given us this wonderful contrast. If you were to rank the most racists senators and former senators still alive today Joe Biden would be #1. This would be based on the things he said, the bills he sponsored, and his close association with the KKK. Likewise Kamala Harris has a very spotty legacy with her actions in prosecutions in California as well as being descended from Slave holders. However, if you look at Trump he is praised for getting funding to the historically black colleges and for setting up economic zones in the inner city. Minorities did much better economically under Trump than they did under Obama and this will certainly be better than they do under Biden.

But think about this, all believers are kings and priests. All of us who stand for the Lord should expect to get pelted with filth from Satan who will accuse us. Many people were confused why would Christians support a man who was so obviously a sinner? There are two kinds of Christians, those who also were plucked from the fire, accused by Satan so that their clothes were covered with filth, and then given new robes by the Lord, and there are also those who are false Christians who have learned how to pretend to have new robes. If you have had the experience of being falsely accused and pelted with filth you aren’t going to shun someone who is going through the same. In fact you learn to judge people by who their enemies are. My feeling was that anyone who is an enemy of Satan is good enough for me. Think about it, Satan accusing someone, it is like receiving the “Good Housekeeping Seal of approval” for a Christian. The Lord says the same thing Luke 6:26 Woe unto you, when all men shall speak well of you! for in the same manner did their fathers to the false prophets.

But let’s consider this image of a “brand plucked from the fire”. A stick could be burning bright, but pull it from the fire and it is going out. That is what the end of the age is like. It seems the light from the US is going out, it seems the light from Christianity is going out. The church in Philadelphia are all those who “have gone out” because the Lord promises them that they will not have to go out anymore. The Lord is referring to the Temple of God, the church. To be in the church in Philadelphia you had to have taken a stand, like the faithful Antipas who was against all. Perhaps you were excommunicated from Sardis (had your name blotted out). Perhaps Jezebel and her false prophets drove you out of Thyatira when you discovered the “deep things of Satan”. Once again, consider Trump, he was talking about “fake news” and the “deep state” and he was driven out. A three year investigation and two impeachments. Once again, for anyone who has had this experience you aren’t going to condemn someone simply because they are being investigated. I said from the beginning I welcomed the investigation and wanted to know the results. That was not true of most people, they just wanted a conviction and when that didn’t happen they got angry. To me I looked at the evidence and it convicted Clinton, the FBI, the FISA courts, and the media.

So how does the Lord take off the filthy clothes and give us bright white garments? Again, let’s use Trump for an illustration. He was accused of human rights abuses from Kamala Harris because of separating kids at the border. Since he has left office the “human rights abuses” of the border have skyrocketed and who is in charge? Yes, if Kamala Harris is going to point her finger at Trump then three of her fingers are pointing back at her because it is three times worse now. When you drive out Antipas from the church you learn that he was the one with the light and the life. You snuffed out your own light and death follows. Thyatira and Sardis drive out the true believers and ultimately they become Laodicea, a dried up husk of the real thing.

What we need as a priest and ruler is a stone, someone with backbone that can stand up to the thieves, a stone that can slay the giants. Jesus was the “engraved stone”. He was engraved on the cross. This stone has seven eyes, that is right, all the true believers are also engraved stones and become the eyes of the church. They have discernment, they can identify Satan and they can identify Joshua.

This is the Gospel. Jesus was like this, he was crucified as the most heinous criminal, His judgement was worse than that given to any others by both scourging and crucifying Him. He put on the filthy clothes of the most heinous sinner and paid the price for us. In His resurrection He was designated by God to be Lord. He has the backbone to stand up to the evil one even unto death and to die for us. Now this very same one lives in us, the hope of glory. If you feed on Him and live by every word of God you too could have the faith of Jesus, you too can be this glorious one who can stand up to the abuse and slander to be one with the Lord as He saves others from the fire.
 

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During Hanukkah with Antiochus Ephiphanes the Greek ruler passed laws that made it illegal to practice Judaism according to the Torah. This is what Agenda 2030 and Cop28 is leading to.

We all thought that "he confirms the covenant with the many for one week" was a reference to a peace treaty because there is another prophecy "when they say peace and security then sudden destruction comes". Again, this is what they did at the time of the Antiochus Epiphanes, not only did he pass laws outlawing the Biblical practice of Judaism, he also feigned peace in order to get into Jerusalem.

So this tells us that on one hand they will be passing laws like COP28 and Agenda 2030 are talking about and at the same time this is confirmed there will be the need for a world ruler to come in with a phony Peace and Security deal.
 

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Christmas is the perfect illustration

Hosea 4:1 Hear the word of the Lord, ye children of Israel: for the Lord hath a controversy with the inhabitants of the land, because there is no truth, nor mercy, nor knowledge of God in the land.

No one denies that there is no truth, rather they accuse each other disinformation, fake news, propaganda, manipulation, false flags, and every vile act. There is no mercy, people are given ten years in prison for trespassing in the Capital when the police waved them in. There is no knowledge of God. In many instances you aren't even permitted to use the name of Jesus, those that do are censored, fired, or bleeped and blurred out.

2 By swearing, and lying, and killing, and stealing, and committing adultery, they break out, and blood toucheth blood.

Joe Biden is merely the symptom, but he swore, he lied, he stole, and that is simply what we know about. They want abortion to be protected as a religious practice. This is how sick and twisted they are, their worship includes killing.

3 Therefore shall the land mourn, and every one that dwelleth therein shall languish, with the beasts of the field, and with the fowls of heaven; yea, the fishes of the sea also shall be taken away.

They are being taken away by the millions. They claim it is "mad cow" or "swine flu" or "bird flu" or algae or some other reason. But the Bible makes it clear, God said this would happen and it is because there is no truth, no mercy and no knowledge of God in the land.

4 Yet let no man strive, nor reprove another: for thy people are as they that strive with the priest.

You can't strive with a priest. This is how they act, they will suspend your account, there is no redress, no opportunity to appeal, no explanation. They act like they represent God.

5 Therefore shalt thou fall in the day, and the prophet also shall fall with thee in the night, and I will destroy thy mother.

The USA needs to take this warning to heart. You can't stop the judgment on the USA, you can't stop what is coming to Washington DC, NYC, and other places in the US. But you can repent, confess, turn to the Lord and be washed by the blood. You don't need to be judged with the same judgment that these liars, thieves and murderers will be judged with.

6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children.

We are not simply talking about politicians, bankers and people on Wall Street. We are also talking about the apostasy, organized religion, OSAS, and the prosperity gospel. Christmas is the perfect illustration, look at the mixture in this holiday. There are beautiful hymns of praise and worship, there are wonderful stories from the gospels, and that is why every believer loves this. But there is also crass commercialism, pagan myths, magic, lies, mockery, and many traditions that have nothing to do with the Bible or Jesus' birth. December 25th and the winter solstice is tied to Nimrod and the Antichrist, not to Jesus. Santa is an anagram for Satan.

7 As they were increased, so they sinned against me: therefore will I change their glory into shame.

"Their glory" here refers to the apostasy. After the rapture their glory will be turned to shame. Their scam will be revealed and they will be reviled by everyone, hated by those deceived, and most likely killed as a result.

8 They eat up the sin of my people, and they set their heart on their iniquity.

I think this has to refer to these pastors of mega churches and tele evangelists.

9 And there shall be, like people, like priest: and I will punish them for their ways, and reward them their doings.
 

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I will also cause all her mirth to cease

Isaiah 24:8 The mirth of tabrets ceaseth, the noise of them that rejoice endeth, the joy of the harp ceaseth.

Mirth refers to joy, rejoicing, exultation.

Isaiah 24:11 There is a crying for wine in the streets; all joy is darkened, the mirth of the land is gone.

It is very good to rejoice in God our savior, but they aren't rejoicing in that. They rejoice in temporal things that disappear.

Jeremiah 7:34 Then will I cause to cease from the cities of Judah, and from the streets of Jerusalem, the voice of mirth, and the voice of gladness, the voice of the bridegroom, and the voice of the bride: for the land shall be desolate.

We associate mirth with eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage. When Jesus said it would be as the days of Noah, He was referring to the mirth being taken away.

Jeremiah 16:9 For thus saith the Lord of hosts, the God of Israel; Behold, I will cause to cease out of this place in your eyes, and in your days, the voice of mirth, and the voice of gladness, the voice of the bridegroom, and the voice of the bride.

Once again I think this is a reference, at least in part, to the rapture being as the days of Noah and as the days of Lot. Their mirth is a fleshly mirth, they forsake God, so when the judgement comes on the flesh their mirth is gone immediately.

Ezekiel 21:10 It is sharpened to make a sore slaughter; it is furbished that it may glitter: should we then make mirth? it contemneth the rod of my son, as every tree.

The day of the Lord is like a sword that falls on the land to make a sore slaughter. This begins with the rapture and the rapture will "glitter". But why would the rapture "contemneth the rod of my son, as every tree"? We know that the pastors are shepherds, and a shepherd has a staff, a piece of wood. If you are raptured you will glitter as part of this sword, but if you are left behind you will be like that staff, a piece of wood that the glittering sword cuts in pieces. Jesus was crucified on a tree but these ones who are left behind are hanging on the wrong tree. What tree does the apostate church hang on? They reject the cross and embrace the Christmas tree. The rapture will slice that to pieces. Christmas is when the apostate church is supposed to make mirth. "Should we then make mirth" after having been left behind?

Hosea 2:11 I will also cause all her mirth to cease, her feast days, her new moons, and her sabbaths, and all her solemn feasts.

Hosea is talking about a bride that is a whore. This is the apostate church. God says "her sabbaths, her feast days, her solemn feasts" not His. Christmas is not in the New Testament. It is not God's feast day, it is the birthday of some Babylonian god who is a type of the antichrist. The apostate church has lent, it has Mardi Gras, it has Easter and Christmas, and many other days. But the day of "mirth" that would be Christmas. It is one of the biggest feast days. If you are going to cause "all her mirth to cease" then that has to include Christmas. (December 12th is the new moon). December 12th is in the middle of Advent, which is the official "Christmas season" for much of organized Christianity.

The word cease here means "desist" or cause to fail, or come to an end. Imagine a candle is lit and then God comes along and snuffs it out. That is the picture here. Therefore I would think that this would be a reference to a new moon during Advent.

However, I am not date setting. I also expect that we will see Betelgeuse have a supernova as a rapture version of "the star of Bethlehem" the sign in the heavens. I also expect Damascus will become a ruinous heap. To me either of those would be a very significant sign of the imminent rapture. This would have to happen at or around the time the Antichrist confirms the covenant with the many and also when they are declaring peace and security.
 

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I will also cause all her mirth to cease

Isaiah 24:8 The mirth of tabrets ceaseth, the noise of them that rejoice endeth, the joy of the harp ceaseth.

Mirth refers to joy, rejoicing, exultation.

Isaiah 24:11 There is a crying for wine in the streets; all joy is darkened, the mirth of the land is gone.

It is very good to rejoice in God our savior, but they aren't rejoicing in that. They rejoice in temporal things that disappear.

Jeremiah 7:34 Then will I cause to cease from the cities of Judah, and from the streets of Jerusalem, the voice of mirth, and the voice of gladness, the voice of the bridegroom, and the voice of the bride: for the land shall be desolate.

We associate mirth with eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage. When Jesus said it would be as the days of Noah, He was referring to the mirth being taken away.

Jeremiah 16:9 For thus saith the Lord of hosts, the God of Israel; Behold, I will cause to cease out of this place in your eyes, and in your days, the voice of mirth, and the voice of gladness, the voice of the bridegroom, and the voice of the bride.

Once again I think this is a reference, at least in part, to the rapture being as the days of Noah and as the days of Lot. Their mirth is a fleshly mirth, they forsake God, so when the judgement comes on the flesh their mirth is gone immediately.

Ezekiel 21:10 It is sharpened to make a sore slaughter; it is furbished that it may glitter: should we then make mirth? it contemneth the rod of my son, as every tree.

The day of the Lord is like a sword that falls on the land to make a sore slaughter. This begins with the rapture and the rapture will "glitter". But why would the rapture "contemneth the rod of my son, as every tree"? We know that the pastors are shepherds, and a shepherd has a staff, a piece of wood. If you are raptured you will glitter as part of this sword, but if you are left behind you will be like that staff, a piece of wood that the glittering sword cuts in pieces. Jesus was crucified on a tree but these ones who are left behind are hanging on the wrong tree. What tree does the apostate church hang on? They reject the cross and embrace the Christmas tree. The rapture will slice that to pieces. Christmas is when the apostate church is supposed to make mirth. "Should we then make mirth" after having been left behind?

Hosea 2:11 I will also cause all her mirth to cease, her feast days, her new moons, and her sabbaths, and all her solemn feasts.

Hosea is talking about a bride that is a whore. This is the apostate church. God says "her sabbaths, her feast days, her solemn feasts" not His. Christmas is not in the New Testament. It is not God's feast day, it is the birthday of some Babylonian god who is a type of the antichrist. The apostate church has lent, it has Mardi Gras, it has Easter and Christmas, and many other days. But the day of "mirth" that would be Christmas. It is one of the biggest feast days. If you are going to cause "all her mirth to cease" then that has to include Christmas. (December 12th is the new moon). December 12th is in the middle of Advent, which is the official "Christmas season" for much of organized Christianity.

The word cease here means "desist" or cause to fail, or come to an end. Imagine a candle is lit and then God comes along and snuffs it out. That is the picture here. Therefore I would think that this would be a reference to a new moon during Advent.

However, I am not date setting. I also expect that we will see Betelgeuse have a supernova as a rapture version of "the star of Bethlehem" the sign in the heavens. I also expect Damascus will become a ruinous heap. To me either of those would be a very significant sign of the imminent rapture. This would have to happen at or around the time the Antichrist confirms the covenant with the many and also when they are declaring peace and security.
During Hanukkah you light the candle and let it completely burn out, generally in an hour or two. So by the 8th day the candles will "cease".
 

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What is the REAL Sign of Jonah? | Does it point to PROPHECY beginning in 2024?


The first point he makes is awesome! We have been wondering when Jesus was crucified, it is critical to any timeline of this age. He uses Jonah to answer this question. Jonah is spit up by the great fish onto the seashore as a shadow of the death and resurrection of Jesus. Then he goes to Nineveh telling them they need to repent or this great city will be destroyed in 40 days. In Matthew 16:4 Jesus tells the Pharisees who were seeking a sign that this is the only sign that would be given to them. We know that Jerusalem and the temple were destroyed in 70AD, so 40 years earlier was 30AD. This was the sign of Nineveh, Jesus died, resurrected and sent out the disciples to witness to Jerusalem for 40 years.

But this tells us even more, the disciples weren't sent out until power fell on them on the day of Pentecost. So then the 40 years of warning begins on the day of Pentecost, the temple was destroyed not just on 70 AD but also on the 9th of Av. We have already theorized with a very strong Biblical basis that Pentecost was not when Christianity celebrates it but was the 8th of Av, it was not on Shavuot, that was when Jesus Ascended, instead it was 50 days later on the feast of new wine.

So then the sign of Jonah gives us a crystal clear start to our timeline tied to the crucifixion.

(I will go through this video completely, so far I am only 15 minutes in)
 

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What is the REAL Sign of Jonah? | Does it point to PROPHECY beginning in 2024?

Acts 3:3 So Jonah arose, and went unto Nineveh, according to the word of the Lord. Now Nineveh was an exceeding great city of three days' journey.

This would be Jesus ministry.

4 And Jonah began to enter into the city a day's journey, and he cried, and said, Yet forty days, and Nineveh shall be overthrown.

This would refer to the last year. If the year begins on Rosh Hashanah (rather than Nisan 1) then half way into the year Jesus is crucified and resurrected, seven weeks later He ascends, and 50 days after that you have Pentecost on the 8th of Av when the preaching to repent begins, taking almost the entire year to get here.

I think the reason we would start at Rosh Hashanah is that this is addressed to a wicked and evil generation. Nisan 1 is the beginning of the year for those who are of faith, Rosh Hashanah is the beginning of the year to the sinful world. This aligns to the sign that Jesus said in Matthew 16:2-3 right before giving the sign of Jonah. Red sky at night means tomorrow will be good weather, red sky in the morning means it will be foul weather today. Was Jesus' crucifixion the sun setting on your day? Red sky at night. Or was it the sunrising on your day? Red sky in the morning. For people of faith Jesus crucifixion was the sun setting on their day, that is "the start of the day" according to the Bible. However, for the wicked and evil generation Jesus crucifixion was the sun rising on their day meaning their day started 12 hours earlier.

So then it was on Pentecost when "Jonah" cries "yet 40 days and Nineveh (Jerusalem) will be. overthrown". That means that Pentecost was 30AD and the crucifixion was also 30AD.

(this interpretation varies slightly with his, he thinks the one day journey begins on Pentecost so he is a year later in his interpretation than me, however that doesn't make sense as it would place the crucifixion in 29AD, a year I think few think it happened and it would mean that Jerusalem was destroyed 41 years after the crucifixion which also does not seem to line up with the rest of the scripture)
 

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At 44:30 it becomes clear why he erroneously thinks that the cross was in 31 AD. If you are going to count to 70 you begin by saying 1. But in reality if you look at a time line 1 begins at 0 and goes to 1. According to this sign of Jonah the day that Jesus "entered Nineveh" and took a day's journey began at Rosh Hashanah of 29 AD and went to Pentecost of 30AD. (Halfway into that day was the crucifixion, at "sunrise" on the evil and adulterous age.) Pentecost, 8th of Av, was when Jonah said "yet 40 days more and Nineveh will be destroyed".

Start counting there

1 year = 9th of Av, 31AD

10 year = 9th of Av, 40 AD

40 year = 9th of Av, 70 AD.
 

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December 26, 1989 USSR collapses, according to some of the prophets that was the fulfillment of the "everyone saying peace and security". That could be our 40 year warning before Armageddon, which would be in 2030.
 

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In 1917 not only did we have a jubilee year, not only did you have the Balfour declaration, but you also had the Canon law for the Catholic church issued declaring Christmas a holy day for the Apostate church. Christmas is tied to both Saturnalia and the ancient Babylonian gods.

I think this is important because Hosea talks about the Apostate church and the Lord causing all her holy days to cease, indicating they will be snuffed out. During Saturnalia and the early celebration of Christmas they would give candles.
 

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Fig tree puts forth tender leaves

32 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh:

33 So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.

34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.

The Israel Knesset first met on Feb 14th, 1949. That is considered by many of the tender branch putting forth leaves. If we assume that the generation is 70 years long and 80 if you are strongly rebellious, refusing to be humbled. This would mean that "all these things be fullfilled" would be prior to Feb 14, 2030, because at that point it would be 81 years.

According to the context "all these things" refers to Jesus returning in the clouds in great glory. It does not refer to Armageddon, that happens after He steps down on the Mt. of Olives and it splits in two and He rescues Israel. So then, "all these things" also does not refer to the end of the 70th week or the end of the tribulation. It does refer to the beginning of Jesus returning to Jerusalem in glory.

Since we expect a 7 year wedding period for the Gentile bride before Jesus returns to Israel we can assume that the rapture takes place at least seven years prior to Feb 14, 2030. That would mean the rapture takes place prior to Feb 14, 2024.

This is not a prediction or a prophecy, in fact I do not think the rapture takes place on or around that date, what this is is an interpretation of the Bible based on the Knesset meeting being the fulfillment of Matthew 24:32 and a generation being 70-80 years based on Psalm 90:10. (There are other interpretations.). It is also based on the doctrine of a pre tribulation rapture, again, there are other interpretations.
 

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32 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh:

33 So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.

34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.

The Israel Knesset first met on Feb 14th, 1949. That is considered by many of the tender branch putting forth leaves. If we assume that the generation is 70 years long and 80 if you are strongly rebellious, refusing to be humbled. This would mean that "all these things be fullfilled" would be prior to Feb 14, 2030, because at that point it would be 81 years.

According to the context "all these things" refers to Jesus returning in the clouds in great glory. It does not refer to Armageddon, that happens after He steps down on the Mt. of Olives and it splits in two and He rescues Israel. So then, "all these things" also does not refer to the end of the 70th week or the end of the tribulation. It does refer to the beginning of Jesus returning to Jerusalem in glory.

Since we expect a 7 year wedding period for the Gentile bride before Jesus returns to Israel we can assume that the rapture takes place at least seven years prior to Feb 14, 2030. That would mean the rapture takes place prior to Feb 14, 2024.

This is not a prediction or a prophecy, in fact I do not think the rapture takes place on or around that date, what this is is an interpretation of the Bible based on the Knesset meeting being the fulfillment of Matthew 24:32 and a generation being 70-80 years based on Psalm 90:10. (There are other interpretations.). It is also based on the doctrine of a pre tribulation rapture, again, there are other interpretations.
The Abrahamic Family House is the result of many years trying to create one world religion to counter Christians. The gospel of Jesus Christ has swept through the earth, countries like Iran are suffering great upheaval as a result, this is an act of rebellion for three religions: Islam, Judaism and Catholicism to outlaw the gospel of Jesus Christ. They want to claim that all three worship the same God and make it illegal to preach in the name of Jesus.

The project was announced by Abdullah bin Zayed, Minister of Foreign Affairs and International Co-operation, on Feb. 5, 2019 at a meeting of the Higher Committee of Human Fraternity at the New York Public Library.

It was officially inaugurated on 16 February 2023 by Lt. General Sheikh Saif bin Zayed Al Nahyan, Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of the Interior, and Sheikh Nahyan bin Mubarak Al Nahyan, Minister of Tolerance and Coexistence.
 

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You cannot justify a crime saying you did it for the Lord

Hosea 1:1 The word of the Lord that came unto Hosea, the son of Beeri, in the days of Uzziah, Jotham, Ahaz, and Hezekiah, kings of Judah, and in the days of Jeroboam the son of Joash, king of Israel.

The name Hosea is the same as Joshua and Jesus. This is a prophecy that is quoted in the New Testament and refers to Jesus.

2 The beginning of the word of the Lord by Hosea. And the Lord said to Hosea, Go, take unto thee a wife of whoredoms and children of whoredoms: for the land hath committed great whoredom, departing from the Lord.

In this prophecy Jesus takes a wife of whoredoms, this should refer to the apostate church. By definition the apostate church refers to those who depart from the Lord.

3 So he went and took Gomer the daughter of Diblaim; which conceived, and bare him a son.


Gomer is said to be a reference to Germany, so I would think this refers to Martin Luther, the Lutheran church, and the protestant reformation.

4 And the Lord said unto him, Call his name Jezreel; for yet a little while, and I will avenge the blood of Jezreel upon the house of Jehu, and will cause to cease the kingdom of the house of Israel.

Jezreel means "seed of God" and those in the apostasy refer to themselves as "children of God". God says He will avenge the "blood of Jezreel". What an incredible double entendre. Imagine people claiming to be the "seed of God" while also supporting Abortion and the killing of their seed! But God ties this to Jehu which was a very strange king. On the one hand Jehu accomplished God's will and fulfilled prophetic judgement on Jezebel and the house of Ahab. On the other hand how you do something is just as important as what you do. You cannot justify a crime by saying "I did it for the Lord".

5 And it shall come to pass at that day, that I will break the bow of Israel, in the valley of Jezreel.

Jehu was a mighty king, "the bow of Israel". There is no doubt that Martin Luther was a mighty man of God. But he was also extremely hateful toward the Jews. He delivered a prophetic blow to the Catholic church, Jezebel, but his doctrine was also used to justify Hitler's holocaust.
 

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At the rapture many "believers" will hear that they are "not my people" from the Lord


6 And she conceived again, and bare a daughter. And God said unto him, Call her name Loruhamah: for I will no more have mercy upon the house of Israel; but I will utterly take them away.

The name means "she has not obtained mercy". The law is "do unto others as you would have them do unto you". James calls this the law of mercy because we all would like to obtain mercy, therefore we need to treat others with mercy. She has not obtained mercy means she did not treat others with mercy. That sounds like Calvinism and the teaching that only those preordained get saved and therefore you don't preach the gospel of salvation because you might accidentally lead someone condemned to receive the Lord. They also teach "once saved always saved" indicating that if you sin after getting saved it doesn't matter. Freemason pastors will teach this because it dissuades "believers" from repenting of sins and pleading the blood of Jesus.

7 But I will have mercy upon the house of Judah, and will save them by the Lord their God, and will not save them by bow, nor by sword, nor by battle, by horses, nor by horsemen.


At this time Israel was divided into two kingdoms, the Northern kingdom of ten tribes being analogous to the denominations of the protestant Reformation and the Southern kingdom being analogous to orthodox Christians like the Baptists, and the Plymouth Brethren.

8 Now when she had weaned Loruhamah, she conceived, and bare a son.

9 Then said God, Call his name Loammi: for ye are not my people, and I will not be your God.


"Not my people" because they do not confirm God's word. There are many people today in large mega churches that do not confirm God's word. On the contrary they pick and choose what they like and reject the rest.

10 Yet the number of the children of Israel shall be as the sand of the sea, which cannot be measured nor numbered; and it shall come to pass, that in the place where it was said unto them, Ye are not my people, there it shall be said unto them, Ye are the sons of the living God.

At the pre tribulation rapture those who are left behind will be getting this word "you are not my people". For very many this will be a wake up to confess your sins, repent, and to obey God's word. We are told during the tribulation there will be a very great revival, greater than at any time in human history, the book of revelation says they couldn't number all the ones who come out of the tribulation and get saved.

11 Then shall the children of Judah and the children of Israel be gathered together, and appoint themselves one head, and they shall come up out of the land: for great shall be the day of Jezreel.


Christianity is divided and the reason is over this one point, how literally are we to take the word of God, and how absolute are we to treat the word of God. Some Christians believe the word of God is unalterable, infallible, and must be obeyed. However, the vast majority do not believe the word of God is to be taken like that, but rather more like guidelines that you should consider but not necessarily obey. After the tribulation all the Christians will be one, believing that the word of God is unalterable and infallible and is to be obeyed absolutely.
 

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The Whore of Babylon

Hosea 2:1 Say ye unto your brethren, Ammi; and to your sisters, Ruhamah.

Say to them "the Lord's people" and "have obtained mercy". In other words, preach the gospel of forgiveness of sins and salvation from the world. This is a direct contradiction to Hyper Calvinists teachings.

2 Plead with your mother, plead: for she is not my wife, neither am I her husband: let her therefore put away her whoredoms out of her sight, and her adulteries from between her breasts;

The apostate church is a "whore". Where do these mega churches get all this money from? They are sell outs like Balaam and Judas. They exchange the Lord for a bag of silver, they betray the Lord and teach Balak how to put a stumbling block of fornication before the church.

3 Lest I strip her naked, and set her as in the day that she was born, and make her as a wilderness, and set her like a dry land, and slay her with thirst.

This is what happens at the start of the tribulation. Peter tells us that judgment must begin at the house of God. There is not going to be any judgment on the world until after the church is judged. Some will be taken in the rapture, some will be left behind, but the false prophets like Judas will suffer death. They will be stripped naked and fully exposed. Everyone will blame them. Some because they were scammed by them, others because they rejected the Lord and the Bible because of them.

4 And I will not have mercy upon her children; for they be the children of whoredoms.

There is a terrible thought in Christianity that "numbers" imply a powerful ministry.

5 For their mother hath played the harlot: she that conceived them hath done shamefully: for she said, I will go after my lovers, that give me my bread and my water, my wool and my flax, mine oil and my drink.

The FreeMasons, the Jesuits, and many others are on the board of directors of these churches directing them on which way to go.

6 Therefore, behold, I will hedge up thy way with thorns, and make a wall, that she shall not find her paths.

Thorns indicate sins. Tax fraud, fornication, adultery, child abuse, pedophilia, etc. We have seen so many of these so called priests and pastors caught up in sins and completely lost as to where the path of righteousness is.

7 And she shall follow after her lovers, but she shall not overtake them; and she shall seek them, but shall not find them: then shall she say, I will go and return to my first husband; for then was it better with me than now.

They will discover that these "benefactors" who contributed money to control the church despise the church. They know that you are a hypocrite. You claim that Jesus is Lord and yet they give you a little money and you will do whatever they say.

8 For she did not know that I gave her corn, and wine, and oil, and multiplied her silver and gold, which they prepared for Baal.

There are numerous testimonies on the internet of former Satanists and witches and people in the occult that many priests and Bishops were in there with them worshipping these occult gods like Baal.

9 Therefore will I return, and take away my corn in the time thereof, and my wine in the season thereof, and will recover my wool and my flax given to cover her nakedness.

10 And now will I discover her lewdness in the sight of her lovers, and none shall deliver her out of mine hand.

We should all confess our sins, repent and plead the blood. If you do this of your own volition the cost is far less than if the Lord strips you naked for everyone to see.

11 I will also cause all her mirth to cease, her feast days, her new moons, and her sabbaths, and all her solemn feasts.

"Her" refers to the apostate church that left the Lord and is a whore. This is the "whore of Babylon".

Here are names of Gods throughout history that were said to have been born by a virgin on 25th December.

HORUS
An Ethiopian-Sudanese God, born 25th December, by a Virgin around 3,000 YEARS before Jesus.


BUDDHA
A Nepal God, born 25th December, by a Virgin around 563 YEARS before Jesus.


KRISHNA
An Indian God, born 25th December, by a Virgin around 900 YEARS before Jesus.


ZARATHUSTRA
An Iranian God, born 25th December, by a Virgin around 1,000 YEARS before Jesus.


HERCULES
A Greek God, born 25th December, by a Virgin around 800 YEARS before Jesus.


MITHRA
A Persian God, born 25th December, by a Virgin- 600 YEARS before Jesus.


DIONYSUS
A Greek God, born 25th December, by a Virgin around 500 YEARS before Jesus.


THAMMUZ
A Babylonian God, born 25th December, by a Virgin around 400 YEARS before Jesus.


HERMES
A Greek God, born 25th December, by a Virgin around 200 YEARS before Jesus.


ADONIS
A Phoenician God, born 25th December, by a Virgin around 200 YEARS before Jesus.


The apostate church has her own feast days, new moons, sabbaths, and solemn feasts. For example the Advent season before "Christmas" and Lent before Easter. At the time of the rapture the Lord does away with all this. However, "songs of mirth" would not refer to Lent or even to most of the year. However, it would refer to Advent season and Christmas. Think of all the Christmas songs that do not talk about Jesus, those are songs of mirth. This is the first thing that is caused to cease, and this word "cease" is like a candle either going out or being snuffed out. Since it says that God will cause, I suspect the candle is burning when it is put out by the rapture. Candles are associated with both Hanukkah and the pagan celebration of Christmas.

The "whore of Babylon" is also said to have had a baby on December 25th. Christmas is officially a feast day and a solemn feast day for the apostate church. This may be the first solemn feast day of the apostate church to cease after the rapture. The current mythology of Santa coming down the chimney mirrors the Lord's word that He would come as a thief in the night. The other very big indication of when the rapture will be is "when they say peace and security then sudden destruction comes upon them". They said peace and security on December 26th when the USSR collapsed. If you were going to cause judgment to fall on the materialistic church December 25th would be the ideal day.