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Out of curiosity, how can you say "do nothing, it's not your business" while simultaneously claiming that "this is equal to Noah's son who looked at his father's nakedness"? IOW, even Noah's TWO OTHER SONS DID SOMETHING, didn't they?
Genesis chapter 9
[20] And Noah began to be an husbandman, and he planted a vineyard:
[21] And he drank of the wine, and was drunken; and he was uncovered within his tent.
[22] And Ham, the father of Canaan, saw the nakedness of his father, and told his two brethren without.
[23] And Shem and Japheth took a garment, and laid it upon both their shoulders, and went backward, and covered the nakedness of their father; and their faces were backward, and they saw not their father's nakedness.
[24] And Noah awoke from his wine, and knew what his younger son had done unto him.
[25] And he said, Cursed be Canaan; a servant of servants shall he be unto his brethren.
[26] And he said, Blessed be the LORD God of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.
[27] God shall enlarge Japheth, and he shall dwell in the tents of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.
There are a lot of different beliefs as to what exactly transpired when Ham "saw the nakedness of his father" which resulted in Canaan being cursed, but, in any case, both Shem and Japheth, Noah's two other sons, would up with BLESSINGS for covering their father's nakedness...which is exactly why I asked Brokengirl about her own heart motivations earlier. Look, there are two distinctly different ways that we can react when we are made aware of another person's sin:
1. Expose it/them with no genuine regard for the sinner himself/herself.
2. Expose it/them with a genuine regard for the sinner in hope that he/she might have their sins "covered" by the blood of Christ via repentance.
Anyhow, my point is that all three sons of Noah DID SOMETHING.
Genesis chapter 9
[20] And Noah began to be an husbandman, and he planted a vineyard:
[21] And he drank of the wine, and was drunken; and he was uncovered within his tent.
[22] And Ham, the father of Canaan, saw the nakedness of his father, and told his two brethren without.
[23] And Shem and Japheth took a garment, and laid it upon both their shoulders, and went backward, and covered the nakedness of their father; and their faces were backward, and they saw not their father's nakedness.
[24] And Noah awoke from his wine, and knew what his younger son had done unto him.
[25] And he said, Cursed be Canaan; a servant of servants shall he be unto his brethren.
[26] And he said, Blessed be the LORD God of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.
[27] God shall enlarge Japheth, and he shall dwell in the tents of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.
There are a lot of different beliefs as to what exactly transpired when Ham "saw the nakedness of his father" which resulted in Canaan being cursed, but, in any case, both Shem and Japheth, Noah's two other sons, would up with BLESSINGS for covering their father's nakedness...which is exactly why I asked Brokengirl about her own heart motivations earlier. Look, there are two distinctly different ways that we can react when we are made aware of another person's sin:
1. Expose it/them with no genuine regard for the sinner himself/herself.
2. Expose it/them with a genuine regard for the sinner in hope that he/she might have their sins "covered" by the blood of Christ via repentance.
Anyhow, my point is that all three sons of Noah DID SOMETHING.
Im surprise you dont consider a married man watching gay porn, if he is, a problem.
I'd be devastated if my husband was watching such content whether it be for recreational purposes or not.
Lol I don't need him to sleep with a man to consider if he's cheating if he's wishing to be with a man and you can't say that by just viewing he's not lusting for that.
Lol funny how people brush off serious actions with underlying motives as trivial matters.
Her only duty,if any, is to inform her dad she knows. Whether he at that point decides to tell his wife, is his choice. And I pray he's a wise guy to confide in his wife.
But of course like I've stated in other threads all our post should only reflect what the op has shared everything else is pure speculation
(OP) I'd recommend you speak to your dad, and know once and for all if its just a misunderstanding or something he needs to speak to his wife about. If not, all these comments will just add to your burden.
I'd be devastated if my husband was watching such content whether it be for recreational purposes or not.
Lol I don't need him to sleep with a man to consider if he's cheating if he's wishing to be with a man and you can't say that by just viewing he's not lusting for that.
Lol funny how people brush off serious actions with underlying motives as trivial matters.
Her only duty,if any, is to inform her dad she knows. Whether he at that point decides to tell his wife, is his choice. And I pray he's a wise guy to confide in his wife.
But of course like I've stated in other threads all our post should only reflect what the op has shared everything else is pure speculation
(OP) I'd recommend you speak to your dad, and know once and for all if its just a misunderstanding or something he needs to speak to his wife about. If not, all these comments will just add to your burden.
I think the severity will differ from person-to-person and belief-to-belief (morality). Because of her being Christian (assumption on my part), I can understand why she and people would feel the urgency of the situation.
You are correct in the totality of the situation. If he wants to do this, it's his business and he doesn't have to stop. However, because Christians equate porn and homosexuality (not saying he is or isn't gay) with sinfulness, from their point of view one could compare it with another addiction/desire, destroying our bodies (the bible states they are not ours, they are suppose to be the temple of the Lord). If a family member was morbidly obese, it is their business to eat what they want, whenever they want. But because I (representing Christian beliefs), personally, would feel it was detrimental to his health (spiritual walk), I would have the desire to help (but not to condemn) the family member get to a healthy state. Of course, we would also have to assume her dad had similar beliefs towards porn and homosexuality (assuming he is Christian too).
I agree. Why a straight man would look at gay porn? I don't know, but that is besides the point. Ultimately, when we put the morality of it aside and assume it's something her father/mother watch together, it has nothing to do with her at that point.
As to if he is cheating, that is up for debate. I'll say this much: I don't think watching porn is "PHYSICALLY cheating"... but then again, there are more ways of cheating than physical. That would make a great thread topic!!!
I also agree. Condemnation or judgment (of his character) shouldn't be from his daughter but from God (assuming again that they believe in God). Pointing out how you feel something needs to be fixed/changed, be it morbid obesity or how Christians view porn/homosexuality, is not itself condemnation or judgment (to his character) however. I do thing there is a fundamental difference.
You are correct in the totality of the situation. If he wants to do this, it's his business and he doesn't have to stop. However, because Christians equate porn and homosexuality (not saying he is or isn't gay) with sinfulness, from their point of view one could compare it with another addiction/desire, destroying our bodies (the bible states they are not ours, they are suppose to be the temple of the Lord). If a family member was morbidly obese, it is their business to eat what they want, whenever they want. But because I (representing Christian beliefs), personally, would feel it was detrimental to his health (spiritual walk), I would have the desire to help (but not to condemn) the family member get to a healthy state. Of course, we would also have to assume her dad had similar beliefs towards porn and homosexuality (assuming he is Christian too).
I agree. Why a straight man would look at gay porn? I don't know, but that is besides the point. Ultimately, when we put the morality of it aside and assume it's something her father/mother watch together, it has nothing to do with her at that point.
As to if he is cheating, that is up for debate. I'll say this much: I don't think watching porn is "PHYSICALLY cheating"... but then again, there are more ways of cheating than physical. That would make a great thread topic!!!
I also agree. Condemnation or judgment (of his character) shouldn't be from his daughter but from God (assuming again that they believe in God). Pointing out how you feel something needs to be fixed/changed, be it morbid obesity or how Christians view porn/homosexuality, is not itself condemnation or judgment (to his character) however. I do thing there is a fundamental difference.
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You and I are different then. I don't care at all if my husband watches porn, gay, straight, lesbian or whatever. Niether of us consider such a thing cheating, and both of us realize that watching porn doesn't mean you wish to be with the person on the screen. For both of us, its merely a visual stimulus for a physical urge. It has nothing to do with our sex life together, and doesn't lessen our monogomous dedication to one another. That being said, if anybody feels differently about it, that's their business. If your spouse feels betrayed by you watching it, you shouldn't watch it. But none of us know how the OP's parents feel about it, or even if her dad actually watchd any porn. And whatever the situaion may be, it is the business of her mother and father only.
This is pretty tragic, to be fair I'd make sure the IPad wasn't infected, hacked, or borrowed. (History can stay on the device for ages, especially if the device was picked up from a pawn shop and previously used).
Then thinking like an IT person, I'd just install OpenDNS with "parental lock" family filter feature on the main router.
https://www.opendns.com/home-internet-security/parental-controls/opendns-familyshield/
You can also setup logging to count how many blocked hits are going across the network among other features.
But of course if he's the one looking it up that doesn't get down to the root of the problem, only God can do that:
Reasons Why Porn is Bad
Then thinking like an IT person, I'd just install OpenDNS with "parental lock" family filter feature on the main router.
https://www.opendns.com/home-internet-security/parental-controls/opendns-familyshield/
You can also setup logging to count how many blocked hits are going across the network among other features.
But of course if he's the one looking it up that doesn't get down to the root of the problem, only God can do that:
Reasons Why Porn is Bad
Brokengirl,
Please talk to your dad. This is very serious because ur father is looking at naked men...he could very well b a danger to ur brother.. I know this is frightening but it could very well happen and could ruin ur brothers for life. You could very well b the bridge for now to keep ur brother safe. Who's to say that he will never touch ur brother or ask ur brother to touch him. They say in here, its none of ur business..would the people here b able to take away the pain if something happens to your brother, or keep him from a life of ruin if he is violated by ur father.. are they living in ur home..are they suffering this betrayal? No they are not. U do what u think is best. Please do pray. Nip it in the bud before u go off to school. There is no guarantees that ur family won't split u if u do or if u don't. Who knows what they would do if they were walking in ur shoes. What ever happens, God has not forsaken u.
Colorful,
The problem with humanity is most times we shoot from the hip totally forgetting about the long term repercussions of of our actions. Adam nor Eve didn't think either and its the very reason humanity is in ruins and the reason why Jesus gave His precious life. God says, "As a man thinketh so is he. A person is no greater than their thoughts. Where ur treasure is, there will your heart be also. God says, we are bought with a price and we have to give account for everything that is done in the body. No man is an island. Our lives have a domino affect.