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Don't agree with the whole "agenda pushing" thing you said, but yes, this is clearly Christian TEENS Forum, so I agree that non teens shouldn't be posting here. Us old folks have plenty other places. 
(I'm aware of the irony of me posting this here, but it was just to agree with Zoii) *disappears*
(I'm aware of the irony of me posting this here, but it was just to agree with Zoii) *disappears*
I want to be clear it was not my understanding this topic was in the teen room nor is the post of those in here which is not the teen room
Hi
When I posted this it was in a teen room and we thought we were having a discussion amongst teens. There are a lot of teens like me who dont like posting in adult rooms because we are nervous about what happens. We got told some pretty harsh things for saying our bit.... I wont being saying more here and I wish the mods before they moved this to an adult room had removed my posts because I would never had made any comment if I'd known it was going to be put here.
When I posted this it was in a teen room and we thought we were having a discussion amongst teens. There are a lot of teens like me who dont like posting in adult rooms because we are nervous about what happens. We got told some pretty harsh things for saying our bit.... I wont being saying more here and I wish the mods before they moved this to an adult room had removed my posts because I would never had made any comment if I'd known it was going to be put here.
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Then dont post threads in the adult forums have a great day.
You get told harsh things because they're from the bible. Like i said, you probably need to refer this to your parents not avunch of teens. Im not attacking you. I have a 14 yo daughter and would be livid if she was talking about this stuff with kids she didnt know, second talking to adults disrespecfully. I wont be responding to anything ypu post in the adult forum, because your authority is your parents.
have a great day. You get told harsh things because they're from the bible. Like i said, you probably need to refer this to your parents not avunch of teens. Im not attacking you. I have a 14 yo daughter and would be livid if she was talking about this stuff with kids she didnt know, second talking to adults disrespecfully. I wont be responding to anything ypu post in the adult forum, because your authority is your parents.
Zoii,
Do you mind if I ask a question? The question I have is do you know if your friend was abused? (It's one of the things that is very,very,very common with those who are LGBT. Being sexually abused as children is so common that I know of less than 10 that have not been, and I do minister to those)
Do you mind if I ask a question? The question I have is do you know if your friend was abused? (It's one of the things that is very,very,very common with those who are LGBT. Being sexually abused as children is so common that I know of less than 10 that have not been, and I do minister to those)
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My take on love is that it's a choice we make, whether it's homosexual love or heterosexual love. The homosexual feelings may be normal to many (possibly more than will admit to the feelings in fact), probably due to many factors that go above my head, but Love is not a feeling. It's a verb. It's something we do out of choice. The actions are the sin to me.....feeling attraction to another of the same sex is just that.....a feeling.....acting on that attraction takes choice. God gave us free will for exactly this sort of dilemma. We are free to sin, due to free will, but every action has a reaction, so while I am free to sin, sins have reactions.....or consequences...whether that be physical consequences, emotional consequences or whatever.....there is a consequence to sin.
Now that we all know I believe the actions of homosexuality are sin, we should also know that I also believe over eating, smoking and drinking to excess are also sins, since they don't care for the Temple (body), and the Bible is pretty clear that no sin is any worse than another......so, to me homosexuality is no worse than the lying, murdering, over eating, me.
If I dismiss everyone who sins in ways I don't approve, then I will run out of people to love reallllllllly quickly. Not to mention the fact that one's sexual orientation is only one small part of who they are, unless they or I choose to make it more than that. If I segregate myself from those who sin differently than I, I will be missing out on getting to know a LOT of awesome people.....besides, sexuality are one of the last things my friends and I discuss anyways.
Then again, I'm nobody.
Peace!!
Now that we all know I believe the actions of homosexuality are sin, we should also know that I also believe over eating, smoking and drinking to excess are also sins, since they don't care for the Temple (body), and the Bible is pretty clear that no sin is any worse than another......so, to me homosexuality is no worse than the lying, murdering, over eating, me.
If I dismiss everyone who sins in ways I don't approve, then I will run out of people to love reallllllllly quickly. Not to mention the fact that one's sexual orientation is only one small part of who they are, unless they or I choose to make it more than that. If I segregate myself from those who sin differently than I, I will be missing out on getting to know a LOT of awesome people.....besides, sexuality are one of the last things my friends and I discuss anyways.
Then again, I'm nobody.
Peace!!
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I don't get it? you sin therefore we should now approve more sin? Stop approving sin and you might find you have more power over sin by Gods grace. God gives grace to the humble and resist the proud...those who promote and excuse sin, are in pride...like gay pride..they will never be delivered from sins power and many will suffer the greatest judgment of all... so its not a game to play, Its a God to fear and obey.
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I know some that were set from the homosexuality once they dealt the abuse issues,that why I asked. (The sad part is many do not want to deal with the abuse issues,and I know for myself dealing with them is not fun at all)
Did I say that it could be used as an excuse to remain in sin? God wants to bring them healing,leaving bound to the sexual abuse leaves them in bondage. Didn't Jesus say this was the reason He came
Luke 4
[SUP]14 [/SUP]Jesus returned to Galilee in the power of the Spirit, and news about him spread through the whole countryside. [SUP]15 [/SUP]He was teaching in their synagogues, and everyone praised him.
[SUP]16 [/SUP]He went to Nazareth, where he had been brought up, and on the Sabbath day he went into the synagogue, as was his custom. He stood up to read, [SUP]17 [/SUP]and the scroll of the prophet Isaiah was handed to him. Unrolling it, he found the place where it is written:
[SUP]18 [/SUP]“The Spirit of the Lord is on me,
because he has anointed me
to proclaim good news to the poor.
He has sent me to proclaim freedom for the prisoners
and recovery of sight for the blind,
to set the oppressed free,
[SUP]19 [/SUP] to proclaim the year of the Lord’s favor.”[SUP][f][/SUP]
[SUP]20 [/SUP]Then he rolled up the scroll, gave it back to the attendant and sat down. The eyes of everyone in the synagogue were fastened on him. [SUP]21 [/SUP]He began by saying to them, “Today this scripture is fulfilled in your hearing.”
Aren't we suppose to be pointing to those in bondage to the one who can set them free or are we to throw them an anchor to a drowning man?
Luke 4
[SUP]14 [/SUP]Jesus returned to Galilee in the power of the Spirit, and news about him spread through the whole countryside. [SUP]15 [/SUP]He was teaching in their synagogues, and everyone praised him.
[SUP]16 [/SUP]He went to Nazareth, where he had been brought up, and on the Sabbath day he went into the synagogue, as was his custom. He stood up to read, [SUP]17 [/SUP]and the scroll of the prophet Isaiah was handed to him. Unrolling it, he found the place where it is written:
[SUP]18 [/SUP]“The Spirit of the Lord is on me,
because he has anointed me
to proclaim good news to the poor.
He has sent me to proclaim freedom for the prisoners
and recovery of sight for the blind,
to set the oppressed free,
[SUP]19 [/SUP] to proclaim the year of the Lord’s favor.”[SUP][f][/SUP]
[SUP]20 [/SUP]Then he rolled up the scroll, gave it back to the attendant and sat down. The eyes of everyone in the synagogue were fastened on him. [SUP]21 [/SUP]He began by saying to them, “Today this scripture is fulfilled in your hearing.”
Aren't we suppose to be pointing to those in bondage to the one who can set them free or are we to throw them an anchor to a drowning man?