Defining Homosexuality

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Mitspa

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Or that their real need is to be healed of the hurts and pains to be set free?
I don't get it? How will Jesus heal them if they don't know they need Him? How will they deal with a sin that is destroying them if they cannot or will not admit they are in sin?

I came to Jesus and was healed because I knew I was a sinner and needed Him...not because I believed its ok to live in sin and I had bought into all the "im ok your ok" social nonsense that gays are being told.
 
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I don't get it? How will Jesus heal them if they don't know they need Him? How will they deal with a sin that is destroying them if they cannot or will not admit they are in sin?

I came to Jesus and was healed because I knew I was a sinner and needed Him...not because I believed its ok to live in sin and I had bought into all the "im ok your ok" social nonsense that gays are being told.
When you talk to a non-Christian about sin do they EVEN HAVE ANY IDEA of what in the world you are talking about? Do they even have any idea who the God you are talking is? Are you talking about RA,Thor,Shiva,or any one of the thousands of other so called gods out there? And how do we reach those who have been been beaten and assaulted by SO -CALLED CHRISTIANS? How does the damage done by those people able to be healed when that can be part of the problem trying to get through to those that are dealing with LGBT issues? (That does happen far more often then most realize)

I hate to tell you this you most likely bought into other social NONSENSE that a lot of guys and gals do when they are in their teens and 20's. (Hey how about that booze party over the weekend,I got a hangover,but man was that a great party etc etc etc) How much of that was I'm OK your OK social nonsense and how long did YOU LIVE IN IT? IT'S the SAME PRINCIPLE.




 
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When you talk to a non-Christian about sin do they EVEN HAVE ANY IDEA of what in the world you are talking about? Do they even have any idea who the God you are talking is? Are you talking about RA,Thor,Shiva,or any one of the thousands of other so called gods out there? And how do we reach those who have been been beaten and assaulted by SO -CALLED CHRISTIANS? How does the damage done by those people able to be healed when that can be part of the problem trying to get through to those that are dealing with LGBT issues? (That does happen far more often then most realize)

I hate to tell you this you most likely bought into other social NONSENSE that a lot of guys and gals do when they are in their teens and 20's. (Hey how about that booze party over the weekend,I got a hangover,but man was that a great party etc etc etc) How much of that was I'm OK your OK social nonsense and how long did YOU LIVE IN IT? IT'S the SAME PRINCIPLE.
Look every gay in the world has heard of the God of the bible...That's why they mock Jesus Christ in their parades...so to act as if they are clueless to God is just being dishonest.... and if by chance some gay person has not heard of God....more reason to make Him known...not less

And when I hear someone (Christians) promoting drunken orgies...you will hear me speak up against that as well.

When the government starts promoting and calling drunks a protected and special class of citizens...you will also hear me speak up.
 
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A-OK! Yes.
 
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Prominent Democratic fundraiser and gay activist Terry Bean facing trial on sodomy charges with young boy. Get this, the Democratic Party is trying to have the charges dismissed because it interferes with their political objectives.

Bean is a co-founder of the Human Rights Campaign, the nation's largest gay rights organization, and is prominent in state and national politics. He was the largest Oregon fundraiser for President Barack Obama's two victories and in the past visited Obama in the White House and flew with the president on Air Force One.

After the boy became a teenager, he tried to kill himself after Bean broke off the relationship stating the teenager was “lousy in bed,” court records say.

Prosecutors Reveal Additional Sex Abuse Allegations Against Terry Bean:Updated
 
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Mitspa

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Prominent Democratic fundraiser and gay activist Terry Bean facing trial on sodomy charges with young boy. Get this, the Democratic Party is trying to have the charges dismissed because it interferes with their political objectives.

Bean is a co-founder of the Human Rights Campaign, the nation's largest gay rights organization, and is prominent in state and national politics. He was the largest Oregon fundraiser for President Barack Obama's two victories and in the past visited Obama in the White House and flew with the president on Air Force One.

After the boy became a teenager, he tried to kill himself after Bean broke off the relationship stating the teenager was “lousy in bed,” court records say.

Prosecutors Reveal Additional Sex Abuse Allegations Against Terry Bean:Updated
Yep this is the leader of the group...what a group! and these folks will be coming after every young boy than can get their hands on.
 
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In one manner or other they will be, if nothing else but to deceive those that can be deceived while bullying those who cannot be. Sad but true.

Yep this is the leader of the group...what a group! and these folks will be coming after every young boy than can get their hands on.
 

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To a lot of Christian evangelicals and older folks, 'homosexual' or 'gay' or 'lesbian' means people who have sex with someone of the same gender. That's usually what preachers mean when they say, "Homosexuality is a sin".

To a lot of GenY people and anyone whose accepted the LGBT world view, 'homosexual', 'gay' or 'lesbian' is an orientation you are born with or that you get when you are young that you can't control, whether you act on it or not.

Preachers need to be aware of this and explain what they mean.

Lust doesn't justify sin. If someone has sexual desire for the same gender for a young age, the fact that one has 'vile affections' doesn't make it righteous to act on them. Sin is still sin. Wanting to sin really bad or from a young age doesn't make it not sin.

Christians shouldn't think of themselves as 'gay Christians' or 'fornicator Christians.' If a man is tempted to fornicate, he should do what Paul teaches in Romans 6, reckon himself to be dead unto sin and alive unto God. The same is true with Christians who struggle with same-sex attraction. The power of the Spirit is available for all who are in Christ to overcome temptation to sin.
 
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Mitspa

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To a lot of Christian evangelicals and older folks, 'homosexual' or 'gay' or 'lesbian' means people who have sex with someone of the same gender. That's usually what preachers mean when they say, "Homosexuality is a sin".

To a lot of GenY people and anyone whose accepted the LGBT world view, 'homosexual', 'gay' or 'lesbian' is an orientation you are born with or that you get when you are young that you can't control, whether you act on it or not.

Preachers need to be aware of this and explain what they mean.

Lust doesn't justify sin. If someone has sexual desire for the same gender for a young age, the fact that one has 'vile affections' doesn't make it righteous to act on them. Sin is still sin. Wanting to sin really bad or from a young age doesn't make it not sin.

Christians shouldn't think of themselves as 'gay Christians' or 'fornicator Christians.' If a man is tempted to fornicate, he should do what Paul teaches in Romans 6, reckon himself to be dead unto sin and alive unto God. The same is true with Christians who struggle with same-sex attraction. The power of the Spirit is available for all who are in Christ to overcome temptation to sin.
We are all born sinners...some continue in sin unto perversions...this is a sexual perversion...nothing more
 
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Mitspa

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I see you and your friends have HOMOPHOBIC printed on your forehead.

Yep, this article is right about you all:
No need to fear or hate sinners but never are we supposed to approve or promote them in their sin.

Like buying dope for a drug addict. It never helps to tell a sexual deviant person that its OK.
 
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I see too many people treating the homosexual community like they're barely people. Others try to guilt trip or shame them by telling them that God hates them or they're going to hell.
I was just talking to my younger sister about this last night. She is a Resident Advisor at Penn State and deals with this issue and some of the freshmen are still teenagers.

Some of the comments here are outrageously homophobic.

Shame on them.
 
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I was just talking to my younger sister about this last night. She is a Resident Advisor at Penn State and deals with this issue and some of the freshmen are still teenagers.

Some of the comments here are outrageously homophobic.

Shame on them.
What part? The part where we believe the bible and quote from it as it speaks to this issue? If that's "homophobic"?...then the word don't mean anything but a slander against real Christians and folks who want better for our society than to turn it over to a bunch of sexual deviants.
 
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Mitspa

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Homophobia encompasses a range of negative attitudes and feelings toward homosexuality

Yes I have negative attitudes and feelings against homosexuality...JUST LIKE GOD DOES !
 
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King James, who is responsible for your bible full of homophobia, was a homosexual.
King James did not write the bible...God had it written and God calls the sin of homosexuality an abomination.

I agree with God.
 
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The colossal ignorance of most millennials I meet continues to astound me. Did she actually say that King James wrote the bible? Wow.

Obviously, she has not even an inkling of understanding regarding the history of the bible. She's historically ignorant and doesn't know that the Gospels were formally published by first and second century publishing companies and disseminated. Eusebius, Irenaeus, etc.. tell us the apostles "published their Gospels."

Irenaeus used the Greek term ekdosis, the standard term for the public dissemination of any writing. Similarly, Irenaeus wrote, "John, the disciple of the Lord, he who had leaned on his breast, also published (exedoke) the Gospel, while living at Ephesus in Asia." This term was used for the official publication of a book, the master copy (archetype) from which other copies of these biographical memoirs would be made.

I suppose we shouldn't be surprised that such intellectually ignorant people cannot fathom why homosexuality is not a suitable replacement for heterosexuality and how this is proven from either an atheistic reductive materialist viewpoint or a genuine orthodox Christian one.

Would it do any good to explain to them that their mixture of ignorance, deception, and feelings is wholly unable to change existing metaphysical objective reality which posits very real temporal and eternal consequences?

I had to laugh when she employed the shaming tactic. What ultimately meaningful and objectively true moral basis could she possibly appeal to for shaming moral people for not accepting immoral behaviors?

Lol, see the problem. Shame on her for remaining in her ignorance, deception, and choice of immorality over objective truth and God's holiness (note: I can say that from a position of objective truth which is ultimately meaningful).


King James did not write the bible...God had it written and God calls the sin of homosexuality an abomination.

I agree with God.
 
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The colossal ignorance of most millennials I meet continues to astound me. Did she actually say that King James wrote the bible? Wow.
No, she didn’t. If your reading comprehension was better than that of a fifth grader, you would have understood that.

She said: “King James, who is responsible for your bible full of homophobia, was a homosexual.”

You might want to try going going by what the person actually said as opposed to what somebody else said the person said. Duh.

It’s no wonder why most of you homophobes get so many things wrong.
 
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King James I (A.D. 1566-1625) is not responsible for the Christian bible. That's a false assertion. Within thirty years of the apostle Paul's death (A.D. 60s), all the Pauline letters (excluding the Pastoral Epistles) were collected and used in the major churches.

The twenty-seven books now included in the New Testament canon were distributed in the Muratorian Canon (A.D. 170).

By the Council of Carthage (A.D. 397), it was decreed that "aside from the canonical Scriptures nothing is to be read in church under the name of Divine Scriptures" and all twenty-seven books of the New Testament (as well as the Old Testament) were listed and the Christian church had their bible (or canon as it is referred to amongst scholars).

God's special revelation (e.g. the biblical canon), certainly does define sexual immorality as sin of which homosexuality certainly is one form of; however, God's special revelation communicates that grace is available toward all sinners who repent leading to salvation, spiritual regeneration, sanctification, and ultimately glorification in heavenly dimensions for eternity with creator God.