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Always? Could you not exaggerate? It is dishonest. Tell me if you would… is homosexuality an unforgivable sin? Have the couple in question "sealed their fate" as Waggles asserted? Is drinking a sin, as Waggles acted like it was? If the act of hanging out with sinners means you partake of their sins, wouldn't that make Jesus a sinner?
Does this sound like the exact same narrative as the world? Hardly. It is SCRIPTURAL.
Does this sound like the exact same narrative as the world? Hardly. It is SCRIPTURAL.
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In my post I did not say one should or should not attend the wedding. My point was that it is for us to love everyone and plant seeds to lead people to Jesus. It is up to each individual and their walk with Jesus to determine if they would or would not attend.
I am learning the hard way that it is better to love people than to shut them out, put my own self-righteousness on them, feel superior to anyone because maybe I don't struggle with the sin that they struggle with. God over the years has been trying to teach me that it is much better to love them and pray for them and the struggle as I struggle with sin myself and must lean on God to help me and for me to love others and pray for that same help from God for them.
I am unable to save them but Jesus is able to do what I can't do for myself or to help them to overcome their struggle. My prayer for them is to want to allow Jesus to help them and if we as Christians don't love them as God does we will help them shut us out but most of all shut off their wanting to ever connect with God/Jesus and ask for the help they so desperately need.
I maintain that it is our job to love them and God will convict them of their sin. We need to love them to Jesus in God's way. That's what I mean by him who is without sin let him cast the first stone. Hopefully this clears it up for you.
I am learning the hard way that it is better to love people than to shut them out, put my own self-righteousness on them, feel superior to anyone because maybe I don't struggle with the sin that they struggle with. God over the years has been trying to teach me that it is much better to love them and pray for them and the struggle as I struggle with sin myself and must lean on God to help me and for me to love others and pray for that same help from God for them.
I am unable to save them but Jesus is able to do what I can't do for myself or to help them to overcome their struggle. My prayer for them is to want to allow Jesus to help them and if we as Christians don't love them as God does we will help them shut us out but most of all shut off their wanting to ever connect with God/Jesus and ask for the help they so desperately need.
I maintain that it is our job to love them and God will convict them of their sin. We need to love them to Jesus in God's way. That's what I mean by him who is without sin let him cast the first stone. Hopefully this clears it up for you.
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Beautiful scripture, what's the context? Many scolars believe the poor man is a picture of Yeshua/Jesus. Even if it describes a man observed by the writer, it is a perfect shadow of our Redeemer. The "little city" and "few" are the saved.
Eccles 9:13-18 I have also seen wisdom under the sun on this wise, and it seemed great unto me: There was a little city, and few men within it; and there came a great king against it, and besieged it, and built great bulwarks against it. Now there was found in it a poor wise man, and he by his wisdom delivered the city; yet no man remembered that same poor man. Then said I, Wisdom is better than strength: nevertheless the poor man's wisdom is despised, and his words are not heard. The words of the wise heard in quiet are better than the cry of him that ruleth among fools. Wisdom is better than weapons of war; but one sinner destroyeth much good.
Eccles 9:13-18 I have also seen wisdom under the sun on this wise, and it seemed great unto me: There was a little city, and few men within it; and there came a great king against it, and besieged it, and built great bulwarks against it. Now there was found in it a poor wise man, and he by his wisdom delivered the city; yet no man remembered that same poor man. Then said I, Wisdom is better than strength: nevertheless the poor man's wisdom is despised, and his words are not heard. The words of the wise heard in quiet are better than the cry of him that ruleth among fools. Wisdom is better than weapons of war; but one sinner destroyeth much good.
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15 And he said to them, “Go into all the world and proclaim the gospel to the whole creation.
16 Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned."
Mark 16:
19 "Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,
20 teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you. And behold, I am with you always, to the end of the age.”
Matthew 28:
37 Now when they heard this they were cut to the heart, and said to Peter and the rest of the apostles, “Brothers, what shall we do?”
38 And Peter said to them, “Repent and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins,
and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit."
Acts 2:
16 Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned."
Mark 16:
19 "Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,
20 teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you. And behold, I am with you always, to the end of the age.”
Matthew 28:
37 Now when they heard this they were cut to the heart, and said to Peter and the rest of the apostles, “Brothers, what shall we do?”
38 And Peter said to them, “Repent and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins,
and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit."
Acts 2:
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Anyway in the end the battle is lost
it is no longer about whether or not RickyZ or others should go to a same-sex "wedding" or wedding reception
the rainbow brigade have won
having divided Christian churches on the "gay issue" they now have access to holy ground and the altar of God
this is where it ends regardless of our opposition and our lack of Christian love to sinners
Eva Brunne - lesbian bishop of the Lutheran Church in Sweden
Gerd Eva Cecilia Brunne (born 1954) is a bishop in the Lutheran Church of Sweden.
She became the Bishop of Stockholm in 2009.
She is the first openly lesbian bishop of a mainstream church in the world and the first bishop of the Church of Sweden to be in a registered same-sex partnership.
Since 2001, Brunne has been in a registered partnership with Gunilla Lindén, who is also an ordained priest of the Church of Sweden.
The couple's relationship received a church blessing and the two have a son, born c. 2005.
In September 2015 Brunne proposed the removal of symbols of Christianity, including crosses, from the Seamen's Church in Stockholm Harbour, to open the church to worshipping sailors of all beliefs, and to mark the direction of Mecca as a service to Muslim visitors.
Oh it just gets better and better all the time.
it is no longer about whether or not RickyZ or others should go to a same-sex "wedding" or wedding reception
the rainbow brigade have won
having divided Christian churches on the "gay issue" they now have access to holy ground and the altar of God
this is where it ends regardless of our opposition and our lack of Christian love to sinners
Eva Brunne - lesbian bishop of the Lutheran Church in Sweden
Gerd Eva Cecilia Brunne (born 1954) is a bishop in the Lutheran Church of Sweden.
She became the Bishop of Stockholm in 2009.
She is the first openly lesbian bishop of a mainstream church in the world and the first bishop of the Church of Sweden to be in a registered same-sex partnership.
Since 2001, Brunne has been in a registered partnership with Gunilla Lindén, who is also an ordained priest of the Church of Sweden.
The couple's relationship received a church blessing and the two have a son, born c. 2005.
In September 2015 Brunne proposed the removal of symbols of Christianity, including crosses, from the Seamen's Church in Stockholm Harbour, to open the church to worshipping sailors of all beliefs, and to mark the direction of Mecca as a service to Muslim visitors.
Oh it just gets better and better all the time.
Not according to my Bible. Have you read the Bible? God wins 
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I see Rick Warren is the site's front page spokesperson. Here's my copy/paste in reply to your copy/paste:
Further Research
Rick Warren's "Apologetics" Weekend Should Apologize for Representing "Another Gospel" — Lighthouse Trails Research
Emanuel Swedenborg's Occultic Beliefs Influence Rick Warren's Health Advisor and Now the Christian Church — By John Lanagan
Kundalini: Frequently Asked Questions and Selected References — By Kurt Kuetzer
What's Sex Got To Do With It? — Lighthouse Trails Research
A Visit to Rick Warren's Health Seminar — The Unfolding of a Global New Age Plan — By Jennifer Pekich, published on Lighthouse Trails Research
Good Fight Theater...move the cursor to the right...look for Rick Warren's face and click on the image. Listen to Pastor Warren's conversation with Larry King.
Mark Hyman: Mangling cancer research and systems biology in the service of woo — Scienceblogs.com
New Age Pandemic in the Church — By Marsha West
Book Review: Purpose Driven Life — By Robert Wise
Occult Pagan revival signals death of America and the West — By Linda Kimball
Rick Warren Connections...Especially to the Ecumenical Third Wave New Apostolic Reformation (NAR) and "Positive Thinking" Movement — Compiled by Sandy Simpson
Youtube: Rick Warren Occult Deception Part 1 — Warren Smith interview "Deceived on Purpose"
Further Research
Rick Warren's "Apologetics" Weekend Should Apologize for Representing "Another Gospel" — Lighthouse Trails Research
Emanuel Swedenborg's Occultic Beliefs Influence Rick Warren's Health Advisor and Now the Christian Church — By John Lanagan
Kundalini: Frequently Asked Questions and Selected References — By Kurt Kuetzer
What's Sex Got To Do With It? — Lighthouse Trails Research
A Visit to Rick Warren's Health Seminar — The Unfolding of a Global New Age Plan — By Jennifer Pekich, published on Lighthouse Trails Research
Good Fight Theater...move the cursor to the right...look for Rick Warren's face and click on the image. Listen to Pastor Warren's conversation with Larry King.
Mark Hyman: Mangling cancer research and systems biology in the service of woo — Scienceblogs.com
New Age Pandemic in the Church — By Marsha West
Book Review: Purpose Driven Life — By Robert Wise
Occult Pagan revival signals death of America and the West — By Linda Kimball
Rick Warren Connections...Especially to the Ecumenical Third Wave New Apostolic Reformation (NAR) and "Positive Thinking" Movement — Compiled by Sandy Simpson
Youtube: Rick Warren Occult Deception Part 1 — Warren Smith interview "Deceived on Purpose"
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> Occult spirituality always surfaces at the end of a civilization. It heralded the end of Babylon, Rome and the Aztec civilization.
It came at the end of the medieval world and now it has come at the end of the post-Christian West ...
"a social order that has attempted to sustain itself without God."
During Rome's darkest, most evil hours, early Christians — thousands of whom were cut in half, used as human torches, and crucified upside-down — nevertheless successfully forced occult forces underground, thus allowing for Christendom and later on America to arise.
America is the West's last best hope. But do contemporary Christians and like-minded Americans possess the undying faith, unfaltering courage, love of Truth, rock-solid conviction, perseverance and will to engage this spiritual war? <
by Linda Kimball (end of her article in Renew America 18th Jan 2011)
It came at the end of the medieval world and now it has come at the end of the post-Christian West ...
"a social order that has attempted to sustain itself without God."
During Rome's darkest, most evil hours, early Christians — thousands of whom were cut in half, used as human torches, and crucified upside-down — nevertheless successfully forced occult forces underground, thus allowing for Christendom and later on America to arise.
America is the West's last best hope. But do contemporary Christians and like-minded Americans possess the undying faith, unfaltering courage, love of Truth, rock-solid conviction, perseverance and will to engage this spiritual war? <
by Linda Kimball (end of her article in Renew America 18th Jan 2011)
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