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Deep down it's a spiritual and moral issue no matter how many people try to explain it away.
Have you heard of the Metropolitan church in the US? They affirm that homosexuality is part of the will of God and is actually a gift given by God. Interesting and also quite disturbing.
There are some right here on CC who deny the blasphemy of same-sex "marriage" and as Christians believe that it is God's will to
attend such a profanity so as to show love for them.
 
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All I did here was to see if there are any neurological links or causes for homosexuality. Do either of you know of any theologians with MD's and specialize in neurology?
Are you postulating Darwinist science as the means to understand the nature of sin?
Are you denying the power of Satan to corrupt and to murder?
Jesus and the Apostles explained quite clearly the spiritual nature of sin and rebellion. It ain't neurological.

You have been flip-flopping quite a bit on this thread. Straddling both sides of the fence in regard to the "gay issue."
 
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There are some right here on CC who deny the blasphemy of same-sex "marriage" and as Christians believe that it is God's will to
attend such a profanity so as to show love for them.
I was listening to a sermon by John MacArthur on the subject recently.

Regarding the Metropolitan Community church issue, their understanding of scripture is totally warped (as can be expected).

Liberal theology is now rampant in the church itself. Many have departed the truth of scripture with regard to this.

Dealing with homosexuals themselves, John says that from police reports in recent years, many of those people have had many partners, some as many as 500 and many over 1000 partners.

Our answer to them is to share the truth of God's word with them, not to indulge them. The saving of their souls is our goal, not their comfort.

There is hope for those trapped in this lifestyle. God is merciful and gracious.

For the LORD says this: "For the eunuchs who keep My Sabbaths, and choose what pleases Me, and hold firmly to My covenant,

I will give in my house and within my walls a monument and a name better than sons and daughters; I will give them an everlasting name that shall not be cut off."
 

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There are some right here on CC who deny the blasphemy of same-sex "marriage" and as Christians believe that it is God's will to
attend such a profanity so as to show love for them.
Are all civil ceremonies Blasphemy? Is there non such thing as mental illness? If some you loved married a Jehovahs Witness, Mormon, Catholic or atheist would you refuse to go to the reception?
 

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Are you postulating Darwinist science as the means to understand the nature of sin?
Are you denying the power of Satan to corrupt and to murder?
Jesus and the Apostles explained quite clearly the spiritual nature of sin and rebellion. It ain't neurological.

You have been flip-flopping quite a bit on this thread. Straddling both sides of the fence in regard to the "gay issue."
I'm saying it's part sin, part mental illness and part due to lack of a spiritual disconnection. And to a lesser part demonic in some cases. I seek to understand and help using all of the tools I have gathered over the years. Spiritual, educational and functional. Many are brainwashed many have been damaged by abuse and nd neglect. The schools are required by law to teach tha being gay is ok from the fifth grade before I left California. All need love, kindness and Jesus. Homosexuality isn't a bug that can be stomped.
 
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Does either of you think that most people walk around in touch with their spirit now days? I was about 24 y.o.a. before I came to believe I had one. All I did here was to see if there are any neurological links or causes for homosexuality. Do either of you know of any theologians with MD's and specialize in neurology?

And as far as the APA goes who do you think determines the curriculum Psychologists and counselors are tested with? And who determines how to classify consumers (patients) so the medical and or treatment bills get paid. This education is required by law for professionals in the field from counselors up.
your point is what? that gay doctors of the APA made a determination of what is a lifestyle to sway the supreme court. The APA is an ungodly organization there was no vote not all doctors agree with this. Yes, I know many theologians with MD's and Ph.D.'s what is your point? I am in education as a director. I see first hand the foolishness. None of that is an excuse for what is wrong and sin. I think most people today are in serious moral trouble. You had what?
 
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There are some right here on CC who deny the blasphemy of same-sex "marriage" and as Christians believe that it is God's will to
attend such a profanity so as to show love for them.
There are times when I’m doubting your level of comprehension. As you should have realized by now, I simply don’t agree with your stance on how to reach out to sinners, in this case gays.

I’m under the impression that you are willfully ignoring what I’m saying, and then you are creating a straw man you can attack.

It’s a lot of anger in your responses and that worries me. What made you so angry? You need to learn how to handle different opinions.
 

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I got my education where I could afford it. In public school in California, while serving internship first, then working full time at a residential treatment facility, going to 3-12 step meetings a day and church twice a week.
 
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Are all civil ceremonies Blasphemy? Is there non such thing as mental illness? If some you loved married a Jehovahs Witness, Mormon, Catholic or atheist would you refuse to go to the reception?
FYI I would not marry anyone that was not a man and women. If they are coming to me to be married then they are not of the above list of denominations and I will marry an unbeliever after they have been counseled by me in the Christian faith. I will to also let them know if I think they are NOT READY FOR MARRIAGE. If they disagree they can go somewhere else to have a person perform the ceremony.

And if they are mentally ill for sure I'm not going to marry them. If Homosexuality is a mental illness then every gay man and women parents should sue the APA for malpractice.
No if a man and women were to marry as many of my friends and family are of different beliefs and no belief

IT IS still a Union between a man and women as God intended to be. Your reasoning is foolish. yes, they can go anywhere they like but not at my church and not according to the word of God be blessed in gay marriage.
 

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your point is what? that gay doctors of the APA made a determination of what is a lifestyle to sway the supreme court. The APA is an ungodly organization there was no vote not all doctors agree with this. Yes, I know many theologians with MD's and Ph.D.'s what is your point? I am in education as a director. I see first hand the foolishness. None of that is an excuse for what is wrong and sin. I think most people today are in serious moral trouble. You had what?
the question was in neurology. federally or state accredited?I should have added psychology too. If I had the opportunity to have gone to a christian school specializing in my field I would have however they all expected tuition. And student loans are a scam.
 
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I'm saying it's part sin, part mental illness and part due to lack of a spiritual disconnection. And to a lesser part demonic in some cases. I seek to understand and help using all of the tools I have gathered over the years. Spiritual, educational and functional. Many are brainwashed many have been damaged by abuse and nd neglect. The schools are required by law to teach tha being gay is ok from the fifth grade before I left California. All need love, kindness and Jesus. Homosexuality isn't a bug that can be stomped.

your point is ridiculous. no is trying to stomp gays . and If loving them means to continue to lie to them you go right ahead.
those with serious cognitive issues like Down syndrome are able to physically perform sexually, yet parents and doctors do not allow them to do so. yet they have a strong desire to have sexual relations as they get older would it be loving to allow those mentally ill do so? You Hypocrites !!!
 

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FYI I would not marry anyone that was not a man and women. If they are coming to me to be married then they are not of the above list of denominations and I will marry an unbeliever after they have been counseled by me in the Christian faith. I will to also let them know if I think they are NOT READY FOR MARRIAGE. If they disagree they can go somewhere else to have a person perform the ceremony.

And if they are mentally ill for sure I'm not going to marry them. If Homosexuality is a mental illness then every gay man and women parents should sue the APA for malpractice.
No if a man and women were to marry as many of my friends and family are of different beliefs and no belief

IT IS still a Union between a man and women as God intended to be. Your reasoning is foolish. yes, they can go anywhere they like but not at my church and not according to the word of God be blessed in gay marriage.
That wasn't the question. the question is would you go to the reception which has always meant to me, another venue apart from where the ceremony was held.
 
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That wasn't the question. the question is would you go to the reception which has always meant to me, another venue apart from where the ceremony was held.
That is the very point, sir, they are two people one man one women getting married that is the plan of God. If you think gay marriage is the same thing as going to the marriage of two JW's that are man & women is a violation to God your wrong and poor judgment and discernment
 

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your point is ridiculous. no is trying to stomp gays . and If loving them means to continue to lie to them you go right ahead.
those with serious cognitive issues like Down syndrome are able to physically perform sexually, yet parents and doctors do not allow them to do so. yet they have a strong desire to have sexual relations as they get older would it be loving to allow those mentally ill do so? You Hypocrites !!!
Who's lying to them. I most certainly do not approve of homosexual behavior any more than I would astrology. I was saying we can't stomp out homosexuality like a bug. For some abstinence my be the only solution while others may relearn life skills they never learned properly. But this was about a wedding reception. That I was never invited to between people I don't know.
That is the very point, sir, they are two people one man one women getting married that is the plan of God. If you think gay marriage is the same thing as going to the marriage of two JW's that are man & women is a violation to God your wrong and poor judgment and discernment
Now we are back to the definition of marriage. Aren't JW's Moonies, LDS, Astrologers,and Satanists just as wicked as Homo's? And who said anything about about a godly wedding. I know it's ungodly. But I know it's protected by the supreme court that has also changed the definition of marriage. Don't get mad at me, Get mad at them, they did it and I don't even know if I would go. It's just a social event.
 
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Who's lying to them. I most certainly do not approve of homosexual behavior any more than I would astrology. I was saying we can't stomp out homosexuality like a bug. For some abstinence my be the only solution while others may relearn life skills they never learned properly. But this was about a wedding reception. That I was never invited to between people I don't know.

Now we are back to the definition of marriage. Aren't JW's Moonies, LDS, Astrologers,and Satanists just as wicked as Homo's? And who said anything about about a godly wedding. I know it's ungodly. But I know it's protected by the supreme court that has also changed the definition of marriage. Don't get mad at me, Get mad at them, they did it and I don't even know if I would go. It's just a social event.
I'm not mad at anyone what I am saying is your reasoning is unfounded. And twisted. I would not attend a satanic wedding any more than I would a GAY WEDDING. Your point is meanless. You are approaching gay marriage from secular humanist position Not a Biblical one. And it is not a definition it a truth. Even the animal world come together with one female and one male to have offspring why not because of a definition but because it's normal.
 

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I'm not mad at anyone what I am saying is your reasoning is unfounded. And twisted. I would not attend a satanic wedding any more than I would a GAY WEDDING. Your point is meanless. You are approaching gay marriage from secular humanist position Not a Biblical one. And it is not a definition it a truth. Even the animal world come together with one female and one male to have offspring why not because of a definition but because it's normal.
Because I am looking at it from two different points of view at least for a secular union or commitment of vows the question of my attendance at a reception is directly affected by my tolerance level much like a bachelor party. If there is nothing faux holy about it I may decide to go just like I might if I knew someone who married an atheist.

To me homo's are just unsaved people. However if the marriage mentioned God by any name I would not attend either. Nor would I tolerate the union between a Christian and a professing Muslim in any name of God. Are we clear? It's a free will issue. If they asked me to approve of the union, I would not. If they simply invited me to a party and I still went to parties I might. When I was asked make a toast at my late uncle, who died of liver disease's, wake. I declined.

The majority of the people I know and the places I go, are not Christian. I have learned to live among them without becoming one of them.
 
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Does either of you think that most people walk around in touch with their spirit now days? I was about 24 y.o.a. before I came to believe I had one. All I did here was to see if there are any neurological links or causes for homosexuality. Do either of you know of any theologians with MD's and specialize in neurology?

And as far as the APA goes who do you think determines the curriculum Psychologists and counselors are tested with? And who determines how to classify consumers (patients) so the medical and or treatment bills get paid. This education is required by law for professionals in the field from counselors up.

My son is a neuroscientist ....there is no way to prove it being neurological in origin, as in it is present at birth.

Prior to 1980's psychologist had a good understanding of the etiology, however with the new political correctness that research is gone, scrubbed away.
 
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Are all civil ceremonies Blasphemy? Is there non such thing as mental illness? If some you loved married a Jehovahs Witness, Mormon, Catholic or atheist would you refuse to go to the reception?
Strawman arguments. Distractions from the OP thread
this is about a professed Christian attending a same-sex wedding and reception.
The thread is about why would a Christian do this?
 
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What if the man in Corinth that was sleeping with his Fathers wife decided to marry her and invited Paul? Would he go? (some say they were probably married but it still was considered a shameful sin) Or would Paul say what he said in the letter to the Corinthians about taking a stand for holiness about this issue and giving him over to satan for the destruction of the flesh.
True, but that is talking about believers.