Husband is in marriage only for the kids

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Rosesrock

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Ya. And people fall in love because they arent attracted to each other.
That has nothing to do with root issues.

Mr isn't unhappy because she's not walking around in heels and red lipstick
 
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That has nothing to do with root issues.
You mean the root issues of emphasizing deficits, high judgement, escape planning, no vulnerability, minimizing benefits and low performance?

and no, I'm not joking.
 
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Seems to me it's adding a little spice to a dry bland relationship.
Plus OP said there were some issues they needed to deal with. Its not just dry and boring. Or everyday. Every marriage gets monotonous. That's when you stop and make actual time with each other with zero distractions.
OP said....Mr says all kinds of things that hurt deeply. That's not fixed with spice.
 
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You mean the root issues of emphasizing deficits, high judgement, escape planning, no vulnerability, minimizing benefits and low performance?

and no, I'm not joking.
Sure whatever the issues are.
Pick. Lol.
 
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Plus OP said there were some issues they needed to deal with. Its not just dry and boring. Or everyday. Every marriage gets monotonous. That's when you stop and make actual time with each other with zero distractions.
OP said....Mr says all kinds of things that hurt deeply. That's not fixed with spice.
You know how its fixed? Moving on from it. If he doesn't come along then...well....to bad for him.
 
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You know how its fixed? Moving on from it. If he doesn't come along then...well....to bad for him.
No sir. It's prayer and counseling. And she can go the the feet of Jesus and pray her heart out rejoicing that he will never leave or forsake her. And she needs care, encouragement, and peace. That He supplies all her need and she needs answers.
 
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No sir. It's prayer and counseling. And she can go the the feet of Jesus and pray her heart out rejoicing that he will never leave or forsake her. And she needs care, encouragement, and peace. That He supplies all her need and she needs answers.

Living in the past never solves anything. Striving for good in the future is what heals relationship. Learning from the past and conducting yourself differently in the present is what heals. Your talking to a guy who has spent countless hours and thousands upon thousands of dollars in a counselors chair. All the marriage counseling....wasted time and resources. Personal counseling with a trained counselor who loves jesus working on yourself is where its at.
 
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Rosesrock

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Living in the past never solves anything. Striving for good in the future is what heals relationship. Learning from the past and conducting yourself differently in the present is what heals. Your talking to a guy who has spent countless hours and thousands upon thousands of dollars in a counselors chair. All the marriage counseling....wasted time and resources. Personal counseling with a trained counselor who loves jesus working on yourself is where its at.
Sorry it didn't work out for you.
But it does work for some.
 
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Sorry it didn't work out for you.
But it does work for some.
It works for very few....you know how I know? Because the guy I know who has met with thousands of couples at this stage told me so. People who go to marriage counseling are typically and usually trying to fix the other person. It never works...ever....to fix anyone but yourself.... and when a person approaches marriage counseling from the point of view of fixing the other person...it makes it worse and 9 times out of 10 ends up in divorce court.
 
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No sir. It's prayer and counseling. And she can go the the feet of Jesus and pray her heart out rejoicing that he will never leave or forsake her. And she needs care, encouragement, and peace. That He supplies all her need and she needs answers.

The way I see it, the best shot Kris has at waking her hubby up from his dark cloud is changing her own attitude about herself and him, getting a bounce in her step and a zest for life, being kind and gracious, assertive, honest and as unemotional as she can muster under relational stress with him....and playful.

If that doesn't wake him up to get on board....well....I don't know what to say.
 
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I don't even know where to start.
Start here:

Our sex life doesn't exist and I feel a million miles away from him. I try to talk to him about how I'm feeling and all he tells me is if I don't like it I can move out. Most holidays or special occasions something happens and the event is ruined by him being mad at me over something. ... He's an amazing man, loves our children so much. He has an amazing work ethic. He's an amazing provider. But someone's always doing something that upsets him or I'm not backing him up. He feels like he has a wife that doesn't support him. I feel like I've failed in the wife department.
In what way(s) does he feel like you do not support him? And --- not backing him up on what [ kind of things ] exactly?

Are you a stay-at-home wife-and-mom, or do you work a job outside the home?

Are you certain that he is not experiencing any "male problems" ( anything from impotence to concerns about prostate cancer - anything - "anything at all" - "anywhere in the spectrum" )?

Is he a Christian?

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Rosesrock

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The way I see it, the best shot Kris has at waking her hubby up from his dark cloud is changing her own attitude about herself and him, getting a bounce in her step and a zest for life, being kind and gracious, assertive, honest and as unemotional as she can muster under relational stress with him....and playful.

If that doesn't wake him up to get on board....well....I don't know what to say.
Hmmm. Soon that sounds great but what worked for us was prayer and recommittment.
I agree that both have to be on board which I said in two posts before. 110% in.
But just a change of attitude doesn't work.
It's a heart issue......

Wait maybe a frying pan over the head
 
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Hmmm. Soon that sounds great but what worked for us was prayer and recommittment.
I agree that both have to be on board which I said in two posts before. 110% in.
But just a change of attitude doesn't work.
It's a heart issue......

Wait maybe a frying pan over the head
A changed attitude got them to where they are. He wasn't always, "in it just for the kids"
 

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Sex doesn't solve root issues. Just prolongs them
Sort of reminds me of the Pennsylvania Dutch expression. Kissing don't last but good cooking does.

Only God can take a relationship built on a faulty foundation and set it upon the Rock who is Christ. All else is sinking sand.

For the cause of Christ
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I am thinking that there may be a 'root' issue underlying that issue...

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Sometimes but not always. There are times that wives can be such prudes that it makes the husband feel like a rapist. Probably from them being wounded sexually in some way.

if you're not scaring the cat you ain't doing it right.
 
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GaryA

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if you're not scaring the cat you ain't doing it right.
"scaring the cat" :confused:

Please explain further how this statement applies to the context of this discussion. I am not sure I fully follow what you are getting at...

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