Is being a submissive wife really taboo?

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sassylady

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Being a submissive wife is unpopular in today's society because so many people think it means being controlled. The Word does not state that at all, it is being in submission to the husband's leadership. It's helping him do his work, not doing his work for him.

Being submissive doesn't mean you have to be his maid either. I think you are doing a bit more than necessary, but on the other hand if he refuses to pick up clothes it is also not worth a fight.
 
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WolfGaming

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I believe he means you have no experiences yet to draw from.Until you live some and actually become married you really cannot say much. If you marry a woman with a mind of her own who disagrees with your decisions sometimes how will you feel about that? You have a lot of life before you and a lot to learn.No one is putting you down.
it's not about experience it's about what the bible tells us to do so I don't need to get married to know my role.
 
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There is a balance.I support my husband and I know he can make good decisions but I want to be part of any big decision making that affects me. We talk things out together. My father is the type to run ahead and gets himself in trouble a lot of times.My mother is very wise and if he'd listen to her more often things would go well for him.I think men may be good at making decisions,but women are given wisdom and discernment. If both parts weren't needed God would have left Adam single and said "you got this". He didnt,he made women. Yes,some women may "castrate" their husbands as you say but if you have the right balance you'll have nothing to worry about. You know I use to travel and sing for a living,traveled in hundreds of churches and you know what I noticed? Women attending church along a lot of the time. Husbands want to be respected? You want to be the leader of the home? You do the work. You take your family to church each Sunday,not sit home and watch football or hockey. I know many churches have bought tvs so the men can watch the super bowl !!!!! Lead your family in prayer and read the Bible to them. Pray with your wife and listen to her before making big decisions. Make sure your bills are paid on time so your wife isnt stressed. Show your sons how to treat their future wives by the way your treat their mother. Like teaching them to do chores and pick up after themselves. Show your daughters how a future husband should treat them by being gentle with their mother,helping her when she is tired,treating her to a night out sometimes,and helping with the kids and homework. A lot of men want to lead from the arm of the sofa,it doesnt work that way men. Mom doesnt get to do it,neither should dad. Marriage is a partnership,smart people understand that and use it to their benefit.
I suppose we all have opinions based on our experiences. This is what I can conclude from my observations and experiences. God created men and women different. We think different, we act different, we learn differently, although we may do similar things the motives behind them are different. We view sex different, our body chemistry is different and our composition is different. I agree that when men get something in their head they can be illogical sometimes but that is exactly what makes men, men. ​That is the beauty about being male. That is what causes men to scale mountains, build rocket ships, sail into the great unknown with little chance of success or survival. Testosterone is exactly what makes teenage males say, "I think if I run fast enough off of the garage roof, I can hit the pool." It's what gives generals the courage to take a few hundred men and take on an army. The guy who started Heinz failed numerous times as an entrepreneur before he swapped the fish broth in catzup for tomato product and birthed the condiment that sits in every fridge. Did his wife talk some "sense" into him? Of course she tried, then she left him, then she regretted it. How many times do you think Sara asked Abram, "Are you sure this is what God told you to do because I'm not feeling it?" Men are living life from the sofa because they are vicariously experiencing the taste of success through the ones who didn't listen to the doubters, those who bet on the long shot, who dug in and sucked it up. Men love action movies because it stirs the blood and pumps adrenaline into their veins before they go to bed , only to wake up and face another day of mediocrity. If you want your men to participate in your family life. First and foremost he has to feel like a man. Send him on a quest, not a trip to the grocery store. Tell him you want him to take up martial arts and give him the time to do it. No man feels like a man if he is afraid. Equipping him with the ability to kick the snot out out a group of guys if needed, is manly, at least to a man. Tell him to take up archery or target shooting. Men are getting weak and fat, do you know why? Its because that's how they see themselves mentally, weak. If a man's identity is strong and healthy, then he needs to fit the image of himself. If all of a sudden he looks in a mirror and sees a roll, he will say, "That's not supposed to be there," and he will fix it because that's not a part of him. I know this because I am a guy not completely satisfied with life. I had to take a job out of town and I had time for me. I started to work out and I liked it. I like the way it makes me look and I like the way it makes me feel. Now I'm 39 years old and ripped with muscle all over. I've never felt manlier, all of me feels manlier. I feel like taking on the world. In fact I just might.......as soon as done making dinner and cleaning the house because that's what men do. They do what has to be done and they don't cry about it. As I'm making spaghetti sauce and manly chili I'm going to listen to an audio Bible or a sermon because real men fear God, only God! Then when my wife comes home I just might rub her feet, not because I feel I have to for sex but because I like it when she feels good because we are a team, and I am the man of the house and she listens to me.
 
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kaylagrl

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it's not about experience it's about what the bible tells us to do so I don't need to get married to know my role.

What we are trying to say,there is a balance. If you understand this you'll be a good husband.

Master-- 1) a man who has people working for him, especially servants or slaves

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a person who controls something or someone

Which one would pertain to your relationship with your future wife?


 
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WolfGaming

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What we are trying to say,there is a balance. If you understand this you'll be a good husband.

Master-- 1) a man who has people working for him, especially servants or slaves

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a person who controls something or someone

Which one would pertain to your relationship with your future wife?


Haha your funny taking 2 meaning to back me in to a corner if I am a good husband faithful to my wife etc would she not just want to do her role in the relationship? Ok what about all the bible verses that say the man is the master of his house and part of the cures is death do people will not die and sin entered the world with the cures Jesus just came so we may be forgiven of our sins.
 
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WolfGaming

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What we are trying to say,there is a balance. If you understand this you'll be a good husband.

Master-- 1) a man who has people working for him, especially servants or slaves

2)
a person who controls something or someone

Which one would pertain to your relationship with your future wife?


I would say my dad controls me and I don't most of the time care I just do.as.I.am asked
 
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WolfGaming

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You're 16 you're under the authority of your dad.
Exactly I am under authority what is a master some one oh has authority over you I do not call him master but that is what he is in a way. Ok I think I am done with this post now so bye guys I shared what I think and I gave bible verses I was shamed and downside do to my age etc so I think I am done I do not treated my gf like a slave and neither does my dad to me yet he has the description of a master.
 
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Rosesrock

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Exactly I am under authority what is a master some one oh has authority over you I do not call him master but that is what he is in a way. Ok I think I am done with this post now so bye guys I shared what I think and I gave bible verses I was shamed and downside do to my age etc so I think I am done I do not treated my gf like a slave and neither does my dad to me yet he has the description of a master.
Expressing ones self is hard in type. I commend you for asking questions and trying to fit pieces together, but ill add no where in the bible is there a discription role of BF/GF, but that of coutrting with the intent to marry , so this wouldn't apply to your GF.
Sounds like a great discussion you could have with your dad, he'd be happy to talk to you in this subject, im sure
 

jsr1221

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I did not see that one sir and it tells us many times for the wife to submit to her husband you used one verse to support what you where saying and I will remind you if the man is of God and same with the woman why would she have a problem submitting to the man if they are both of God they both will have good interest maybe not all the time but it is better another reason to another to be under equally yoked
Submitting means serving. What does it mean for us to submit to God? What is the whole point of our Christian walk? It's to serve God. Men are the leaders in a marriage. Yes. But it's not all one sided. If that was the case then the middle east has it down perfectly, considering how men are treated like gods and women are treated like trash.
 
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WolfGaming

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Submitting means serving. What does it mean for us to submit to God? What is the whole point of our Christian walk? It's to serve God. Men are the leaders in a marriage. Yes. But it's not all one sided. If that was the case then the middle east has it down perfectly, considering how men are treated like gods and women are treated like trash.
Everything that happens is a shadow of God his love things to come etc the church is Christ bride and we submit to him no? What does the word submit mean does it not mean to let your will go and follow the will of someone else? And I am not saying a woman is trash you think I am implying that look.at how the Muslim treat there wives and women in general it is sick sad and sinful. P.S I get it we believe differently I determined that after 10 posts trying to say something against what I posted this is no longer about the OP and about us having an illogical argument.
 
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atwhatcost

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I don't agree with this. When has science always been right? There are some wonderful people that their brains are fully developed much earlier, it may just depend on the type of environment they grew up in.
I'm getting to the point of wondering if science has ever been right. lol
 
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Ephesians 5:22
Wives, be subject (be submissive and adapt yourselves) to your own husbands as [a service] to the Lord.

Wives are to be like Jesus and put the Lord first, and likewise her husband. Husbands are to love their wives the same way. We are told to submit one to another in the verse just before the most favoured clobber passage about this very subject.

Ephesians 5:21
submitting to one another in the fear of God.
 
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WolfGaming

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Sure, they have been right occasionally .

They can prove the Earth exists. :)
HAHAHAHAH your funny they can (prove eviloshon *not* lol they are getting more and more wrong every year they go farther from God
 
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atwhatcost

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well thanks kinda its better than the guy that said this to me ( You people are arguing with a 16 year old. His/her mind isn't fully developed yet)
Let's get real. It isn't. Neither is mine. (Note my age.) If we don't know we still have a lot of growing to do, we won't get to the business of growing. You have a lot of growing to do. Me too, but I'm still a further than you are, so take that as an always advantage and learn from your elders. Then all you have to do is figure out if what they're teaching you is malarkey or true. Got to warn you, I still have trouble telling the difference.

The only hope you have is in my signature -- I'm just naturally naive so have to fight that every day too.

And, don't get cocky on us. We remember 16, and I can tell you something you rather no one know. You think you're much more mature than a ten year old. You probably are. Which means a 22 year old is probably more mature than you, and a 28 year old is probably more mature than the 22 year old. Learn to deal with that reality.

One other piece of advice. In all my life I have only met two teens who didn't think they were more mature than their ages. Those are the only two teens I trusted to know how mature they were for their ages. Don't trust me on that one. Do a survey with your friends. Don't count how many are sure they're more mature than their age, because those numbers get high. Count how many know how they fit into their age. You'll get what I mean on who to trust. Better yet, you'll get some perspective on how much you can trust yourself. :)
 
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atwhatcost

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Sure, they have been right occasionally .

They can prove the Earth exists. :)
Honestly, they can't yet. They need more empirical evidence. That's one nasty delusion they're stuck under. "Out of all the planets in the universe exactly like earth how does our planet act exactly like earth?" Sort of like making a circle and then telling someone it's a maze. lol
 
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atwhatcost

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Exactly I am under authority what is a master some one oh has authority over you I do not call him master but that is what he is in a way. Ok I think I am done with this post now so bye guys I shared what I think and I gave bible verses I was shamed and downside do to my age etc so I think I am done I do not treated my gf like a slave and neither does my dad to me yet he has the description of a master.
Good. That means you already have some concept of "head" without the super-notion "master." Smart.
 
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WolfGaming

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Let's get real. It isn't. Neither is mine. (Note my age.) If we don't know we still have a lot of growing to do, we won't get to the business of growing. You have a lot of growing to do. Me too, but I'm still a further than you are, so take that as an always advantage and learn from your elders. Then all you have to do is figure out if what they're teaching you is malarkey or true. Got to warn you, I still have trouble telling the difference.

The only hope you have is in my signature -- I'm just naturally naive so have to fight that every day too.

And, don't get cocky on us. We remember 16, and I can tell you something you rather no one know. You think you're much more mature than a ten year old. You probably are. Which means a 22 year old is probably more mature than you, and a 28 year old is probably more mature than the 22 year old. Learn to deal with that reality.

One other piece of advice. In all my life I have only met two teens who didn't think they were more mature than their ages. Those are the only two teens I trusted to know how mature they were for their ages. Don't trust me on that one. Do a survey with your friends. Don't count how many are sure they're more mature than their age, because those numbers get high. Count how many know how they fit into their age. You'll get what I mean on who to trust. Better yet, you'll get some perspective on how much you can trust yourself. :)
true but I know Christ as some 60 40 ect don't know him so in a way am a bit more wise than the man that chose Hell vs God
 

Angela53510

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Wolfgaming, I challenge you to do a word search of the whole Bible, and see if you can find the word "role" with regards to marriage relationships. It doesn't exist.

As for Gen. 3, that was AFTER the Fall.That was the consequence of sin - including death. Christ has come to set us free from the curse of the law, and that includes the curses of the Fall and the twisted relationships that men and women had to live with until Christ came to redeem us.