men and sexual sin

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savedsince14

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#21
Very hard to resist. Men yield to this desire because it is easy for them to. I'm not saying, by any means, to just go do what you want because God knows you are going to do it anyway. We are responsible for our actions whether we are saved or not.We are going to face temptation until the day we die.If you are saved , you will want to glorify God with your life.But that doesn't mean you are going to stop sinning. We HAVE to depend on God to resist or 98% of the time , we will yield. God is there for us who are saved no matter what. God bless you and I hope this helps anyone who reads it . By the way, my favorite verse in the Bible(and the King James Bible is the only Bible
 
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savedsince14

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#22
I recognize as the word of God) is 2nd Timothy 2:15.I also believe it is the key verse to understanding the Bible.God bless
 
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Tintin

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#23
Great series of posts, except for your KJV-Only stance.
 
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nathan3

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#24
i hope i dont upset anyone with this post but its something i really feel i need to get some feed bk on.

men... why does sexual sin happen, in that its in the news alot lately, on men raping under age girls, killing little girls or abducting them. catholics with the rape of young boys. i just dont understand how on earth men get it in there head that these things are ok. why SOME men feel its ok to over power everyone in frount of them to degrate and make the victim feel degrading and mentaly scared for the rest of there lives, while they walk around thinking its a normal thing.

is it because young men arnt told to respect other people now, or is it a fact of life.
is there anything in the bible to why?
what can we do about it?

God bless x

I think to raise kids from the day one to know God's word and Christ. its the only way.........For the men that do those things, they should be made an example of, for all to see. Then anyone that has a thought to do that, would think twice . But instead a lot of people get away with things. For now, until they come face to face with their creator & their victims .
 
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xXErraticEmilyXx

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#25
It's kind of unfair to put it all on the men. Plus, it's easier for a man to rape a woman than a woman to rape a man.
 
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xXErraticEmilyXx

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#26
Women can also have intense desires like men. Some of us struggle with it every day and we're equally responsible for ourselves.
 
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Iluv_Jesus

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#27
Like you say, sex and talk of sex is seen and heard everywhere. It is one topic which kids in school talk about in their teens. Kids need their parents to guide them and show them the way by their good example, having family prayer, encouraging them in sports, music, whatever they can. Moral decadence brought down the Caesars and the Roman empire to nothing. If you have read Plato's Republic, Socrates would say that the morality of a state is needed to ensure it's survival. Men and women are made who they are by their surroundings. They are not mostly born that way. The responsibility of having a good society would fall equally on both men and women.
 
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Iluv_Jesus

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#28
in that case do u think it doesnt help that on the telly there is often womens underwear, avdvertising, hear about sex in music on the radios, now a days sex seems to be a free thing, on one of the programs this morning there was a lady talking about one night stands, like its nothing, women like her give men the wrong impresstion.
but that doesnt excuse men to be vile to young girls.
Like you say, sex and talk of sex is seen and heard everywhere. It is one topic which kids in school talk about in their teens. Kids need their parents to guide them and show them the way by their good example, having family prayer, encouraging them in sports, music, whatever they can. Moral decadence brought down the Caesars and the Roman empire to nothing. If you have read Plato's Republic, Socrates would say that the morality of a state is needed to ensure it's survival. Men and women are made who they are by their surroundings. They are not mostly born that way. The responsibility of having a good society would fall equally on both men and women.
 
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oOfallen_angelOo

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#29
i hope i dont upset anyone with this post but its something i really feel i need to get some feed bk on.

men... why does sexual sin happen, in that its in the news alot lately, on men raping under age girls, killing little girls or abducting them. catholics with the rape of young boys. i just dont understand how on earth men get it in there head that these things are ok. why SOME men feel its ok to over power everyone in frount of them to degrate and make the victim feel degrading and mentaly scared for the rest of there lives, while they walk around thinking its a normal thing.

is it because young men arnt told to respect other people now, or is it a fact of life.
is there anything in the bible to why?
what can we do about it?

God bless x
The same reason mother's drown their own children, grandmothers' kill their entire families, and girls beat each other to death and film it at school.

Gender has nothing to do with wickedness.
 
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Zhenya

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#30
Men are bombarded with sexual imagery through the media and advertising from the moment we get up in the morning till bedtime. For men who process so much through the eye gate, it means we have to battle with issues previous generations never did. Also it now seems to be acceptable for men to father children then walk away and unfortunately Mummy's latest boyfriend may not may not feel any connection with children that aren't his. I know of one family where the children were happy when their parents split as they felt they were now like the rest of the children in their class whose birth parents were no longer together. I really think we need to start standing up fearlessly for Bible values (esp in the UK where society has turned its back on them). Teach men what the Bible says about being a man, husband and father as this society really has devalued what a man is, has taught us we're irrelevant to society, and has loaded us with guilt over the poor treatment of women that has occurred over history.
 
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we are reverting back to the Romans, look at how homosexuality is everywhere, people living wild lifestyles, partying and drinking like there is no tomorrow, in those days molesting and abusing children was very common, I dont know if it was legal, but it was pretty much over looked, the sad thing is that will be the next thing if we continue to follow this path
 

AzureAfire

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Apr 16, 2013
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#32
Hello, everyone! i'm reading this thread, and i could not help but post a reply, since this is something i've struggled with myself...for a very long time.

I feel very nervous, opening up about my own struggles, knowing how most people look at women who are sexually promiscuous, labeling them as downright sluts or whores...at some point, i've labeled myself as such as well. It's not because i had throes of men come and go, but the fact that i have been sinning all by myself, deep in fornication, doesn't make me feel any less.

I was raised in a Catholic family, with a strict father, and a mother who worked overseas. I didn't grow up abandoned, being under the constant care of my aunts and uncles, and i understood our situation fully well. I don't count my childhood as miserable, but it's definitely not ideal either. My folks raised me up to the best of their knowledge, teaching me what is good and what is bad.

I could say the main fault was pornography lying around where a child shouldnt reach it, even by accident. Plus the lack of open communication within the family. To this day, in our country, sex talk is quite taboo. Some government officials and people at the justice system are even blocking the passage of the Reproductive Health Bill, which includes sex education for the young and teenage age groups, where the rise of sexual promiscuities and pregnancies are alarming.

Back to my experience, i actually stumbled upon porn at age 7. Curiosity does kill, in my case, my innocence. But it seemed like esoteric knowledge to me at the time, which i never shared to anyone, but not brooded over either. Still, i know its seed had already planted somewhere in my thoughts, to later fuel what carnal desire is sleeping within me.

And sure enough, it did. At age 12 or 13, i've already learned how to masturbate. From the stuff i've read, i explored, and so i was addicted. No one really knew how badly. It didnt come to a point where i was looking for a partner, but it was nearing that. I wasnt a Christian then, so i didnt care. All i knew was that it felt good, so i gave in repeatedly. I still churched as a Catholic then, but their sermons held no meaning. It was all just ritual. And i felt no need to address the issue to my folks. My parents were already separated by then, they split when i was 11. Which we actually celebrated for, because our Dad was a terrible father. I'll be sharing about that maybe in a future post or blog. As a whole, i grew up to be emotionally independent of my family, who, although they say they want to know my struggles and help me with them, are actually irked by the fact hat i'm burdening them with things they think i should know what to do about. So i remained living alone, surrounded by many.

Although a seed of lust has been planted within me, the Word of God had been also planted in my heart and mind. When i was younger, i was able to attend Sunday school at a Christian church, where my childhood bestfriend was attending with her family. For a whole summer, i saw what real praise and worship and fellowship was like. I was delighted to know that there is a real church apart from the one i've been taught to attend and st down in every Sunday. My heart longed for continued fellowship and learning in that church, but my mother forbided me from attending, saying that the church was merely brainwashing me, and i'm just the fool they needed to hear what they had to say. But even though i was forbided to go, i remember the one talk i had with the pastor there. He said that someday, i will realize that there are things that i cannot do anything about...situations where i will say i can't go on anymore. When that happens, he told me to talk to God, and ask Him to take over, and to take charge of my life from then on. He said that i will never regret it. I didnt fully understood what it meant, or how serious it was. I read the Bible, but didn't know what it meant, it was more like a reference. But i remembered his words well. I was age 9.

Then that time came, when i was forced to the wall within my own family, in a chaos that was supposedly my fault, but i didnt know it was, and everyone was shouting and blaming me. I was 14 then, being asked to hold the family budget, struggling to live a normal life without a father and an absentee mom away overseas, and everything was falling apart. I ran to my room, closed the door, and broke down in the dark. And i remembered the advice given to me. I talked to God, not even sure if He was real, or that if He would listen to a messed up sinner like me. But i surrendered to Him that night, knowing that if i went on living by myself, i will foul up worse than i have that day....and that would just be the end for me. And right after i uttered my words of surrender, He came and lifted up all the burdens i had, even the ones i didnt know were crushing me flat. It was an inexplicable feeling of hope and peace, of love and joy! I knew that He was real, and He has saved me!

After that, everything changed. Nothing could bring me down, i always had a smile and praise to God on my lips. His words came alive, unlike i've ever seen before. I knew i had found the one true living God, and i love Him, and want to be with Him forever!

But alas, i didnt know that a Christian could still grow cold and weary...could still experience defeat and despair...and i fell to the familiar sins once again. And after falling the 2nd time, it seemed harder to resist and rise above from...the feeling of guilt made it seem like there was a wall separating me from God's presence....i felt alone again, although i knew He never left me. But i felt as if His love was taken away and i'm no longer worthy...such a major lie!

For years, i've struggled with substitutes to fill in the need for love. I thought i needee a lover, and i had them. Gave myself to them without thinking twice as i should've...i've been such a fool. Thought it was ok coz they were Christian too...but in my heart of hearts, i knew i was defiled. I cried for the loss of my purity...i thought i have become damaged goods. That made things even worse. It was like an endless downward spiral...with me hating myself more...wanting to go back to God, but feeling i no longer could....

Slowly, i tried to return to God, praying hard, rehearsing His promises. Claiming my victory over sin and death, and God's forgiveness and cleansing of my sins at the cross. It was hard and very discouraging when we keep falling, but we had to keep rising again, with the strength and grace the He provides.

Just a few weeks ago, being in state of emptiness and despair, He opened my eyes to the truth, to what is happening in the world. I was shaken from my self disillusionment...there are more pressing things at hand now. I can no longer keep living a life of defeat, it wasn't what God called me out of the darkness for. He wanted me to stand, and live His calling for my life, which is to follow Him and live by Him and in Him, and to serve and be source of love and inspiration for the brethren, even for the world, as His witness. In an instant, i was revived spiritually. I praise Him for making me so, inspite of everything....every failure and every fall.

I know this post is so very long...i hope you don't hate me for giving you eye strain from reading it. I want to say that sin is here, in our flesh. As long as we're in this world, we will struggle with sin. And that sexual sin isn't mainly a male problem...it is also a female problem, though most would not admit it. I am not proud that i have fallen...all i could boast of is God who is in my life, who changes me from day to day, enabling me to stand and shake off the sin that hinders, to continue to run the race, fixing my eyes upon Him.

It is important to stay close to Him and His word. For His Word is filled with power, to dispell all lies and bring freedom and victory! It is also important to have a heart that truly seeks His kingdom and His righteousness, for He draws near to those who draw near to Him, and those that are His will have want for nothing. His love and His grace should never be forgotten, as well as the very dear price that was paid for our sins, which is the very life and blood of His precious Son, our sweet Lord Jesus Christ.

Philippians 1:9-10 9 And this i pray, that your love may abound still more and more in knowledge and all discernment,
10 That you may approve the things that are excellent, that you may be sincere and without offense till the
day of Christ

1 Peter 4:1-3 1 Therefore, since Christ suffered doe us in the flesh, arm yourselves also with the same mind, for he who has
suffered in the flesh has ceased from sin,
2 That he no longer should live the rest of his time in the flesh for the lusts of men, but for the will of God.
3 For we have enough of our past lifetime in doing the will of the Gentiles -- when we walked in lewdness, lusts,
drunkenness, revelries, drinking parties,band abominable idolatries.

Hebrews 12:1-2. 1 Therefore we also, since we are surrounded by so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight,
and the sin which so easily ensnares us, and let us run with endurance the race that is set before us,
2 Looking unto Jesus, the author and finisher of our faith, who for the joy that was set before Him endured the
cross, despising the shame, and has sat down at the right hand of the throne of God.

Philippians 4:8 Finally, brethren, whatever things are true, whatever thungs are noble, whatever things are just, whatever
things are pure, whatever things are lovely, whatever things are of good report, if there is any virtue and if there
is anything praiseworthy -- meditate on these things.

God bless us all, and move our hearts and minds in holiness, with boldness and might for His glory!! :)
 
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Iluv_Jesus

Guest
#33
Hello, everyone! i'm reading this thread, and i could not help but post a reply, since this is something i've struggled with myself...for a very long time.

I feel very nervous, opening up about my own struggles, knowing how most people look at women who are sexually promiscuous, labeling them as downright sluts or whores...at some point, i've labeled myself as such as well. It's not because i had throes of men come and go, but the fact that i have been sinning all by myself, deep in fornication, doesn't make me feel any less.

I was raised in a Catholic family, with a strict father, and a mother who worked overseas. I didn't grow up abandoned, being under the constant care of my aunts and uncles, and i understood our situation fully well. I don't count my childhood as miserable, but it's definitely not ideal either. My folks raised me up to the best of their knowledge, teaching me what is good and what is bad.

I could say the main fault was pornography lying around where a child shouldnt reach it, even by accident. Plus the lack of open communication within the family. To this day, in our country, sex talk is quite taboo. Some government officials and people at the justice system are even blocking the passage of the Reproductive Health Bill, which includes sex education for the young and teenage age groups, where the rise of sexual promiscuities and pregnancies are alarming.

Back to my experience, i actually stumbled upon porn at age 7. Curiosity does kill, in my case, my innocence. But it seemed like esoteric knowledge to me at the time, which i never shared to anyone, but not brooded over either. Still, i know its seed had already planted somewhere in my thoughts, to later fuel what carnal desire is sleeping within me.

And sure enough, it did. At age 12 or 13, i've already learned how to masturbate. From the stuff i've read, i explored, and so i was addicted. No one really knew how badly. It didnt come to a point where i was looking for a partner, but it was nearing that. I wasnt a Christian then, so i didnt care. All i knew was that it felt good, so i gave in repeatedly. I still churched as a Catholic then, but their sermons held no meaning. It was all just ritual. And i felt no need to address the issue to my folks. My parents were already separated by then, they split when i was 11. Which we actually celebrated for, because our Dad was a terrible father. I'll be sharing about that maybe in a future post or blog. As a whole, i grew up to be emotionally independent of my family, who, although they say they want to know my struggles and help me with them, are actually irked by the fact hat i'm burdening them with things they think i should know what to do about. So i remained living alone, surrounded by many.

Although a seed of lust has been planted within me, the Word of God had been also planted in my heart and mind. When i was younger, i was able to attend Sunday school at a Christian church, where my childhood bestfriend was attending with her family. For a whole summer, i saw what real praise and worship and fellowship was like. I was delighted to know that there is a real church apart from the one i've been taught to attend and st down in every Sunday. My heart longed for continued fellowship and learning in that church, but my mother forbided me from attending, saying that the church was merely brainwashing me, and i'm just the fool they needed to hear what they had to say. But even though i was forbided to go, i remember the one talk i had with the pastor there. He said that someday, i will realize that there are things that i cannot do anything about...situations where i will say i can't go on anymore. When that happens, he told me to talk to God, and ask Him to take over, and to take charge of my life from then on. He said that i will never regret it. I didnt fully understood what it meant, or how serious it was. I read the Bible, but didn't know what it meant, it was more like a reference. But i remembered his words well. I was age 9.

Then that time came, when i was forced to the wall within my own family, in a chaos that was supposedly my fault, but i didnt know it was, and everyone was shouting and blaming me. I was 14 then, being asked to hold the family budget, struggling to live a normal life without a father and an absentee mom away overseas, and everything was falling apart. I ran to my room, closed the door, and broke down in the dark. And i remembered the advice given to me. I talked to God, not even sure if He was real, or that if He would listen to a messed up sinner like me. But i surrendered to Him that night, knowing that if i went on living by myself, i will foul up worse than i have that day....and that would just be the end for me. And right after i uttered my words of surrender, He came and lifted up all the burdens i had, even the ones i didnt know were crushing me flat. It was an inexplicable feeling of hope and peace, of love and joy! I knew that He was real, and He has saved me!

After that, everything changed. Nothing could bring me down, i always had a smile and praise to God on my lips. His words came alive, unlike i've ever seen before. I knew i had found the one true living God, and i love Him, and want to be with Him forever!

But alas, i didnt know that a Christian could still grow cold and weary...could still experience defeat and despair...and i fell to the familiar sins once again. And after falling the 2nd time, it seemed harder to resist and rise above from...the feeling of guilt made it seem like there was a wall separating me from God's presence....i felt alone again, although i knew He never left me. But i felt as if His love was taken away and i'm no longer worthy...such a major lie!

For years, i've struggled with substitutes to fill in the need for love. I thought i needee a lover, and i had them. Gave myself to them without thinking twice as i should've...i've been such a fool. Thought it was ok coz they were Christian too...but in my heart of hearts, i knew i was defiled. I cried for the loss of my purity...i thought i have become damaged goods. That made things even worse. It was like an endless downward spiral...with me hating myself more...wanting to go back to God, but feeling i no longer could....

Slowly, i tried to return to God, praying hard, rehearsing His promises. Claiming my victory over sin and death, and God's forgiveness and cleansing of my sins at the cross. It was hard and very discouraging when we keep falling, but we had to keep rising again, with the strength and grace the He provides.

Just a few weeks ago, being in state of emptiness and despair, He opened my eyes to the truth, to what is happening in the world. I was shaken from my self disillusionment...there are more pressing things at hand now. I can no longer keep living a life of defeat, it wasn't what God called me out of the darkness for. He wanted me to stand, and live His calling for my life, which is to follow Him and live by Him and in Him, and to serve and be source of love and inspiration for the brethren, even for the world, as His witness. In an instant, i was revived spiritually. I praise Him for making me so, inspite of everything....every failure and every fall.

I know this post is so very long...i hope you don't hate me for giving you eye strain from reading it. I want to say that sin is here, in our flesh. As long as we're in this world, we will struggle with sin. And that sexual sin isn't mainly a male problem...it is also a female problem, though most would not admit it. I am not proud that i have fallen...all i could boast of is God who is in my life, who changes me from day to day, enabling me to stand and shake off the sin that hinders, to continue to run the race, fixing my eyes upon Him.

It is important to stay close to Him and His word. For His Word is filled with power, to dispell all lies and bring freedom and victory! It is also important to have a heart that truly seeks His kingdom and His righteousness, for He draws near to those who draw near to Him, and those that are His will have want for nothing. His love and His grace should never be forgotten, as well as the very dear price that was paid for our sins, which is the very life and blood of His precious Son, our sweet Lord Jesus Christ.

Philippians 1:9-10 9 And this i pray, that your love may abound still more and more in knowledge and all discernment,
10 That you may approve the things that are excellent, that you may be sincere and without offense till the
day of Christ

1 Peter 4:1-3 1 Therefore, since Christ suffered doe us in the flesh, arm yourselves also with the same mind, for he who has
suffered in the flesh has ceased from sin,
2 That he no longer should live the rest of his time in the flesh for the lusts of men, but for the will of God.
3 For we have enough of our past lifetime in doing the will of the Gentiles -- when we walked in lewdness, lusts,
drunkenness, revelries, drinking parties,band abominable idolatries.

Hebrews 12:1-2. 1 Therefore we also, since we are surrounded by so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight,
and the sin which so easily ensnares us, and let us run with endurance the race that is set before us,
2 Looking unto Jesus, the author and finisher of our faith, who for the joy that was set before Him endured the
cross, despising the shame, and has sat down at the right hand of the throne of God.

Philippians 4:8 Finally, brethren, whatever things are true, whatever thungs are noble, whatever things are just, whatever
things are pure, whatever things are lovely, whatever things are of good report, if there is any virtue and if there
is anything praiseworthy -- meditate on these things.

God bless us all, and move our hearts and minds in holiness, with boldness and might for His glory!! :)
Amen. Thank you for sharing. You are not alone here. Every single Christian will have a story like this to tell. Of course, there are some who remain faithful to God's Word more than others. It takes a lot of courage for someone to talk about their life in a very open manner and do so just for the benefit of those who read it. Your testimony is a light to all Christians here who read it. Me included. God loves you and will lead you to greener pastures. He will look after you :)
 

AzureAfire

Senior Member
Apr 16, 2013
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#34
Thank you! :) I hardly think that my terrible experience and struggle in this type of sin would be something pleasant to hear about...i had been deeply ashamed of this for a very long time. I had even questioned my salvation because of this major failing in my life...but God has been so faithful, bringing me always to that night He came when i called, and changed my life forever. I knew that it could never be a lie...everything He has revealed to me. And by my strength and will, i could never have changed myself overnight. It is only His love, His power, and His fire that could move me and keep doing so. Now, He has shown me what it was for: His glory. I will praise Him and thank Him, and love Him forever for what He has done, is doing, and will continue to do in my life, and in all our lives! God is awesome!! Words just aren't enough to express just how wonderful He is...so it is only right to offer up our lives to Him out of love and worship.

I hope to continue to inspire others with the lessons He has taught me through this life and His Word. May we all continue to grow strong and steadfast in Him, covered in His holiness, and secure in His love!! :)
 
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Iluv_Jesus

Guest
#35
Amen. May the Lord Jesus bless you and keep you :) God bless you !!
 
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queenet

Guest
#36
We pray for salvation of all "men"
 
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MrMalby

Guest
#37
Hiya there

I doubt as a man I can answer that, I would hope that to every man on here this behaviour is just as irreconcilable to decent men, Christians or otherwise as it is to you.

It does though confirm the utter depravity of man's heart, how people can look at the world and say 'We don't need a saviour, we do fine on our own' is beyond me, it really is.

The scriptures are very clear, man has cast off the image God had for him, and used his own understanding as a default 'Whatever makes me happy is good' and 'Only my feelings of what is right and wrong is a trustworthy measure' .. some people clearly do these things without feeling even a little remorse.

Ecclesiastes 7:20: Indeed, there is no one on earth who is righteous, no one who does what is right and never sins.(NIV)

We simply don't have an answer really we don't, and we shouldn't have one its awful sin. There are many on here who are more knowledgeable than I and learned in the ways of how people think, who have and could give you a much better answer from a human psychology or sociological point of view..

but to me its simply a symptom of something else.. Man's fall and sin is the cause.

One day we will all stand before God, and give account, on that day no one will be able to 'cover up' or lie to the Lord and each will receive what the Lord has planned for them, no one will 'get away' with anything. I hope at some point you will find peace but i do believe its understandable, and even Godly to cry to the Lord for justice.

Bless you Sister
In Christ
Malby
 
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queenet

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#38
We pray for salvation of all "men"
 
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queenet

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#39
We pray for salvation of all "men"
 
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Hello, everyone! i'm reading this thread, and i could not help but post a reply, since this is something i've struggled with myself...for a very long time.

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God bless us all, and move our hearts and minds in holiness, with boldness and might for His glory!! :)
Thank you for sharing AzureAfire!!!!

Not everyone is as brave as you to share their story or even admit to it. A lot of us women struggle with things and we should at least be honest with each other in order to up lift and support one another. But then there is the fear of judgement etc...

And regarding the original topic, I wish people who do horrible things got the same in return. I know God will judge us all and there will be justice in the end, but sometimes I just want to witness this for my self. It may sound terrible, but it's the truth. Anyone who hurts a child or another weaker person ... they deserve pain and that's that!

Man or woman - we are all the same. One is certainly not better than the other.