''Mommy, I wanna be a Wizard.''

[SantoSubito]

"The origin of Halloween is the Celtic Festival of Samhain (meaning summer’s end), lord of death and evil spirits. Long before Messiah (at least 2000 years), Druids in Britain, Ireland, Scotland, France, Germany and other Celtic countries observed the end of summer by making sacrifices to Samhain (pronounced sow-een). The Celts considered November 1st as being the day of death because the leaves were falling, it was getting darker sooner and temperatures were dropping. They believed Muck Olla, their sun god was losing strength and Samhain, lord of death, was overpowering him. Further, they believed that on October 31st Samhain assembled the spirits of all who had died during the previous year. These spirits had been confined to inhabit animals bodies for the past year, as punishment for their evil deeds. They were allowed to return to their former home to visit the living on the eve (Oct. 31) of the Feast of Samhain. Druid priests led the people in wicked worship ceremonies in which horses, cats, black sheep, oxen, human beings and other offerings were rounded up, stuffed into wicker cages and burned to death. This was done to appease Samhain and keep spirits from harming them. It is clear to see that HALLOWEEN HAS ALWAYS BEEN A CELEBRATION OF DEATH.
Our Pilgrim forefathers well knew of Halloween’s occultic roots. In fact they banned celebrating Halloween in America. Halloween was not celebrated in this country until 1845. At that time multiplied thousands of Irish emigrants flooded into New York because of the Irish Potato Famine of 1845-46. They brought with them the old Druid holiday of Halloween. Gradually celebrating this day spread throughout the rest of the country.

Halloween Little Guy in the Eye

And IF JESUS is LIFE, and said be seperate from the WORLD. then...

More precisely I would say Halloween is a remembrance of Death, just like All Souls Day. As two of my favorite passages say.

Nothing is born which Death makes not subject of his state.

and

We are mere notes in a piece of music played by the angel Death--heard and lost.

Memento Mori, everyone, Memento Mori.

 

[AnandaHya]

Halloween Little Guy in the Eye

And IF JESUS is LIFE, and said be seperate from the WORLD. then...

then I would have to live in a cave and speak to no one including to my own sinful flesh.....

I chose love and mercy towards others over condemnation of sin according to MANMADE rules any day.

I would caution people to wash and look towards the inside before judging the unkempt exterior actions of any person.

Mark 7:6-8
New King James Version (NKJV)
6 He answered and said to them, “Well did Isaiah prophesy of you hypocrites, as it is written:


‘ This people honors Me with their lips,
But their heart is far from Me.
7 And in vain they worship Me,
Teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’[a]

8 For laying aside the commandment of God, you hold the tradition of men—the washing of pitchers and cups, and many other such things you do.”

Do you think it a SIN then DF to celebrate holidays with family and friends?

Should we boycott Halloween, Christmas trees, Santa Clauses and Easter Bunnies?

Yes we should not sin but I do not believe in place undue burdens upon people that GOD has not place upon them.

to me this is liken to the question what does circumcision really mean?

 

[Deadflesh]

More precisely I would say Halloween is a remembrance of Death, just like All Souls Day. As two of my favorite passages say.

Nothing is born which Death makes not subject of his state.

and

We are mere notes in a piece of music played by the angel Death--heard and lost.

Memento Mori, everyone, Memento Mori.

I agree, but celebrations of DEATH(World) are usually led by one who DOESNT want to die(to self). and yet wants to LIVE(this life).

Celebrations of LIFE(Jesus) are done by ones who WANTS to die(to self/death) and live to LIFE eternal(Jesus)

We can try and justify all thigns, man has since Cain. But JESUS said what he said, and man wants to be justified so they can keep on i nthe thigns GOD hates. So We can warn. We can advise tht its dangerous terretory for one who wants to be ONE with LIFE(in death) but we can not force.

Halloween is as evil. ALL forms of witchcraft(including rebellion) are an Abomination to JESUS. Thats Haloween, harry potte,r Chronicles of narnia, Lord of the Rings. Can i sayCS lewis wasnt saved when he died? no. ONLY God is judge o nthat matter, but if GOD ahtes witchcraft, adn then WE mae light of it...then...WAHT is the fruit we are exibiting? LIFE? or Death? Righteousness? or UN? Obedeince? or REBELLION?

Justify your life, go ahead...we ALL will have to answer to the LORD for what we did, allowed, and didnt warn othrs about. Jesus bless you.

 

[jimmydiggs]

When I was a kid, I wanted to be a doctor. Then I had to help my grandfather castrate pigs, and help my dad cut off bull horns and sow pig colons back together. I changd my mind. You'll grow out of it kid.

EDIT: response is to thread title

 

[Possum]

Samhain is not a celebration of death. It's a festival to mark the end of the summer and the start of the winter, when the leaves start falling.
It's a remembrance of those who have passed. It's all well and good to copy and paste some definition or article in here, but there will be thousands of sites out there that say differently.
I agree with people wondering about Santa and Christmas trees. If we see Hallowe'en as an evil Pagan festival, the same should be said of Easter and Christmas, as those dates are based on pagan holidays too.

 

[Deadflesh]

then I would have to live in a cave and speak to no one including to my own sinful flesh.....

I chose love and mercy towards others over condemnation of sin according to MANMADE rules any day.

I would caution people to wash and look towards the inside before judging the unkempt exterior actions of any person.

Mark 7:6-8
New King James Version (NKJV)
6 He answered and said to them, “Well did Isaiah prophesy of you hypocrites, as it is written:


‘ This people honors Me with their lips,
But their heart is far from Me.
7 And in vain they worship Me,
Teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’[a]

8 For laying aside the commandment of God, you hold the tradition of men—the washing of pitchers and cups, and many other such things you do.”

Do you think it a SIN then DF to celebrate holidays with family and friends?

Should we boycott Halloween, Christmas trees, Santa Clauses and Easter Bunnies?



Yes we should not sin but I do not believe in place undue burdens upon people that GOD has not place upon them.

to me this is liken to the question what does circumcision really mean?

LAW has nothig nto do with practicing pagan rituals. We are NOT to judge waht someoen does according to the LAW. But we ARE to judge what one does in regarding if a child of GOD practices PAGAN holidays right? So if ISHTAR bunnies are pagan fertility symbols, and christmas trees are also pagan fertility symbols...and i coudl go throug hthe wole list...ar we REALLY supsoed to celbrat thigns that the LORD was angry at ISrael for celebrating?

Its justification. Humans love justification of self. now im not judging, i love all of you, and if you invited me to a Christmas celbration i woudl pray about it and maybe God will tell me to go. But i would NOT hold one in my house, becaseu i think it would go agaisnt certain thigns GOD has shown me. AGain DO webrign things to the LORD and REALLY want hi mto show us the TRUTH, or would we WRATHER stay beliving a lie. its up to us.

Circumsision is of the heart..so RIGHT we no longer follwo LAW. but NOT mixing with the WORLD is a NEW testement comamnd. We are to be STRNAGERS here...passers through, not staying and fraternising.

 

[needmesomejesus]

This is what I heard a little boy tell his mom, and his mom was too afraid and ashamed to say something back.

A lot of parents are setting their children up for much evil in the days to come. They let their children watch all this filth on T.V. They let them play these evil games.

What is worse that there are supposed Christians that do the same thing. They know it is wrong, yet they continue to do it. They practice Halloween, which is Satan's hallowed day, and don't even care that they are going against Jesus in doing it.

The end of this generation will be a terrible one. I am witnessing the beginning of it, which is the beginning of the end of all things. Will you be with Jesus, or with the world that is perishing? You are going to have to choose.

May Jesus bless you.

I don't think you're going against Jesus if you celebrate Halloween as long as you keep your heart right. Dressing up and getting candy is harmless. I mean think about it even Easter is a pagan holiday, but we celebrate it with the right heart. Also why do people freak out about harry potter, but not about Wizard of Oz honestly the things people let their children watch in the generations before us is worse than what people let their children watch now.

 

[Deadflesh]

Samhain is not a celebration of death. It's a festival to mark the end of the summer and the start of the winter, when the leaves start falling.
It's a remembrance of those who have passed. It's all well and good to copy and paste some definition or article in here, but there will be thousands of sites out there that say differently.
I agree with people wondering about Santa and Christmas trees. If we see Hallowe'en as an evil Pagan festival, the same should be said of Easter and Christmas, as those dates are based on pagan holidays too.

Al pagan. Birthdays, Christmas, IShtar(i DO acknowledge Ressurection sunday, but NOT easter/ishtar, its the same day...i jsut dotn get all the bunnies eggs and usless thigns. if its a day to celebrate JESUS why do we need all that other thigns? eather they are "PAGAN" or not) . Truly look into it if you want. Im I going to JUDGE you. nope. Im goign to notify you. GOD does the judging, i will stay loving you, and prayig nfor your safty and protection and growth. Will i cal yo a heretic, NOPE but I will not participate in such celbrations of the WORLD sorry...not gunna, and i WILL speak out agaisnt them...ONCE. like now i will not join the crowed who will be Halloween protesting in a month. But if GOD says he hates it...when did GOD change? Truly?

I will stick to not confroming to this world in any way shape or form. And i will stick to brign it to light. Its up to YOU.

 

[SantoSubito]

I agree, but celebrations of DEATH(World) are usually led by one who DOESNT want to die(to self). and yet wants to LIVE(this life).

Not true, All Souls Day (the Catholic version of Halloween if you will) is all about reminding people that this life is short and fleeting, but eternal life waits for the righteous, hence All Souls Day. Halloween carried over to have a similar meaning in Irish culture. Like when I was little we used to make little dolls of ourselves to throw into the bonfire on Halloween and then my father would say "The burning of your doll is like your life, it's gone in an instant. So remember children to love God and keep his commandments, because you will all one day die like the rest of us". Really, death was always a part of our lives.

Halloween is as evil. ALL forms of witchcraft(including rebellion) are an Abomination to JESUS. Thats Haloween, harry potte,r Chronicles of narnia, Lord of the Rings. Can i sayCS lewis wasnt saved when he died? no. ONLY God is judge o nthat matter, but if GOD ahtes witchcraft, adn then WE mae light of it...then...WAHT is the fruit we are exibiting? LIFE? or Death? Righteousness? or UN? Obedeince? or REBELLION?

Halloween is harmless dress up fun. My father used to read the Norse myths to us when we went to bed, but I didn't grow up believing that Thor and Odin were real. What your describing is a strict Puritanical code.

Justify your life, go ahead...we ALL will have to answer to the LORD for what we did, allowed, and didnt warn othrs about. Jesus bless you.

You know I think God loves C.S. Lewis, Tolkien, and their works of literature.

 

[Deadflesh]

I don't think you're going against Jesus if you celebrate Halloween as long as you keep your heart right. Dressing up and getting candy is harmless. I mean think about it even Easter is a pagan holiday, but we celebrate it with the right heart. Also why do people freak out about harry potter, but not about Wizard of Oz honestly the things people let their children watch in the generations before us is worse than what people let their children watch now.

Wouldnt SATAN want you to think a day that patterns yourself after the WORLD(whci hGOD said DONT do) and has a n apreaence of evil(which GOD said AVOID) WOudlnt the ADVESARY of our souls WANT us to think its "harmless" ? Look at the increase of evil. TODAYS wizard of OZ is Hary potter...i KNOW of an uproar there was amongst some christians about that movie when it came out. Because of a "Good Witch"

Well no there is a WHOLE series devoted to "Good witches" and they are using Even what is called "black magic" Look again Hallowen all that stuff has been Justified for YEARS. so again im not judging, just poitnig it out, and just saying GOD will judge. So take take it to HIM. JEsus bles you.

 

[Deadflesh]

You know I think God loves C.S. Lewis, Tolkien, and their works of literature.

Not trying to be divisive or anything like that my friend truly, but can you back up with scripture, GOD loving the writings of men, about somthing he says he a HATES?

I mean that. I KNOW God loves the MEN. and i do not know the mens hearts. but if GOD says he hates witchcraft, and then a man, in the name of JESUS writing a book, PRAISING witchcraft and magic. WHY do you think GOD would still love those writings? and that they would be pleasing to him?

 

[Possum]

Yes, God did not like them celebrating pagan festivals in the OT. Nor did he like them eating shellfish/pork or whatever. There are about a thousand laws in the old testament that we don't follow as Christans. People just pick and choose them to make their points.

I'm aware enough of pagan festivals having been a practising one myself for years. And saying that a 'good witch' causes an uproar is the same as saying a 'good sikh' would cause an uproar. It's just another religion.

 

[Deadflesh]

Yes, God did not like them celebrating pagan festivals in the OT. Nor did he like them eating shellfish/pork or whatever. There are about a thousand laws in the old testament that we don't follow as Christans. People just pick and choose them to make their points.

I'm aware enough of pagan festivals having been a practising one myself for years. And saying that a 'good witch' causes an uproar is the same as saying a 'good sikh' would cause an uproar. It's just another religion.

I agree. im not attackign one religion or another. IM saying WHEN did GOD change? We are to live in peace with all men, but when THOSE who call themselves by the name of CHRIST are suposed to have NO fellowship with the UNfruitfull works of darkness. we are to NOT be un eaqually yoked. Are we to JUDGE the WORLD? nope. Leave that to GOD. but we ARE to judge the BODY. CHRISTIANS are to be seperate. so if they are NOT..then they are in rebellion.

 

[Liz01]

I agree with you Ramon with your posts in this thread

 

[G4JC]

Oh boy another Harry, Twilight, Narnia, Halloween thread. *waits for bickering atheists and liberal Christians to troll*... *ahem*

In a nutshell, research for yourself. Do not doubt that all fantasy and sci-fi is based on some truth and mixed with fairy-tales. Some fairy tales are innocent, others are not. If you're a Tony Campolo wannabe reading this, I really don't have time to debate with you. My Jesus doesn't use witchcraft to bring wizards to Christ. Almost all of these have tracts and books made trying to bring people to Christ. Finding Christ in Harry Potter, Finding Christ in the Twilight a message of Chasity, Finding God in Narnia... personally I find all of these blasphemous and sure to bring more false converts.

Harry Potter uses real occult, mixed to look cute for children. Interesting reading:
Index to Harry Potter articles

Twilight introduces vampirism made cute and cuddly for girls, blood lust, along with lustful relationships.
Twilight Obsession

Narnia is by a catholic, fantasy and very odd. Also some occult in it:
Narnia Part 1: Blending Truth and Myth
Non-christians believe it shows a form of astrology in where people worship planets. Each character was closely related to this. Google Narnia Code, BBC Documentary.

Perhaps the most famous part of Narnia is the fact C. S. Lewis got his ideas while drinking it up at the pub with his good friend JRR Tolkien. Together in a stooper they could come up with goblins and other goodies. Is this how a Christian man should act? Sadly no, and I'm sure this affected his writings.

Regarding Halloween, it was definately a pagan holiday. Not that we can't pass out tracts on this day, but I really don't think christian children should be participating. Harvest Parties perhaps, though people stricter than I have made interesting claims on those being bad as well. I watched an interesting documentary on the holiday awhile back.
Here's a Presentation I made many a year ago... http://cgm.sitesled.com/etracts/halloween/

That's my christian fundamental/conservative view on it, but I don't think that many people my age would agree. I would urge those of you feeling hostile to prayerfully consider the things in the articles I have provided and the content in the books you are reading. I am concerned that much of the church is going directly into the occult.

Youtube Videos of Interest:
Why kids are becoming obsessed with the Occult (and Harry Potter) - Roger Oakland - YouTube
David Benoit speaks on the Occult in Fantasy RPG - YouTube

 

[Michelle94]

This is what I heard a little boy tell his mom, and his mom was too afraid and ashamed to say something back.

A lot of parents are setting their children up for much evil in the days to come. They let their children watch all this filth on T.V. They let them play these evil games.

What is worse that there are supposed Christians that do the same thing. They know it is wrong, yet they continue to do it. They practice Halloween, which is Satan's hallowed day, and don't even care that they are going against Jesus in doing it.

The end of this generation will be a terrible one. I am witnessing the beginning of it, which is the beginning of the end of all things. Will you be with Jesus, or with the world that is perishing? You are going to have to choose.

May Jesus bless you.

...What a load of nonsense...

There is nothing wrong with Halloween. It is good fun. People can take it to extremes and pervert it. That's something different. Also, I think it's pretty sick to be scolding and upset at some little kid who innocently says he wants to be a wizard. There is no such thing as wizards, so there is nothing wrong with the imagination and pretending to be one...thats the fun of being a kid...make believe...

Evil games? What is an evil game? I'm curious. A Ouija board? That is made by the Parker Bros. The same company who makes Monopoly. It comes off an assembly line. I've played it. ...theres nothing to it. It obviously doesnt work. What are we? Superstitious idiots from the 1600s? These are stupid games that have no place in reality.

I'm really shocked and appauled by this stuff. Your taking the innocence of a kid and warping it into something sick and evil in your own mind.

 

[Ramon]

...What a load of nonsense...

There is nothing wrong with Halloween. It is good fun. People can take it to extremes and pervert it. That's something different. Also, I think it's pretty sick to be scolding and upset at some little kid who innocently says he wants to be a wizard. There is no such thing as wizards, so there is nothing wrong with the imagination and pretending to be one...thats the fun of being a kid...make believe...

Evil games? What is an evil game? I'm curious. A Ouija board? That is made by the Parker Bros. The same company who makes Monopoly. It comes off an assembly line. I've played it. ...theres nothing to it. It obviously doesnt work. What are we? Superstitious idiots from the 1600s? These are stupid games that have no place in reality.

I'm really shocked and appauled by this stuff. Your taking the innocence of a kid and warping it into something sick and evil in your own mind.

I will tell you about the innocence of a kid. Today I heard yet another child, ''Mommy, I want to be a witch.''

And I will tell you about the innocence of a kid. Today also I heard a little 7 year old pointing at a partially naked woman and say to the other 7 year old, ''Do you think she is sexy? Do you think she is sexy?''

He understood very well what he was saying.

Satan doesn't respect age. When Jesus walked the earth, many children had demons in them. Jesus knew what type of a generation he was dealing with. A wicked and perverse generation. It was harmless fun until they started getting into the real stuff.

What is perverted is anyone who allows children to get into this stuff. Who exposes children to this absolute garbage!! Trash!! Filth!!

You will not be as shocked and appauled when you see it all come to pass. OR MAYBE MORE SHOCKED AND APPAULED!

May Jesus bless you.

 

[Michelle94]

umm...yeah, this is sick. Sorry... Kid's say a lot of things. Of course they want to be a witch. Who wouldnt want that kind of power? It's harmless make beleive fun. There is no such thing as witches....

 

[Ramon]

umm...yeah, this is sick. Sorry... Kid's say a lot of things. Of course they want to be a witch. Who wouldnt want that kind of power? It's harmless make beleive fun. There is no such thing as witches....

That is where you are wrong. And seeking after this power, which is an evil power, and from Hell itself, they might just get it, but at the cost of their own souls.

There are people who actively serve Satan, willingly and knowingly. They are assigned to many Christians and many nations.

This mess that Harry Potter is advertising is real, and for a child to desire that power, and then learn that it is possible, they will easily attend to it. Now, the Lord has destroyed many nations when they have given heed to these seducing spirits.

Many people are destroyed by this mess.

As I said there is a wizard school not far from me, and they actively invite people into the occult. Many say Satan is make believe too, and strange enough many Christians think the same.

May Jesus bless you.

 

[Michelle94]

There is a Wicca school out here as well...all nonsense. These people are just as stupid as the other relgions. Spells dont work. The majority doesnt. Some do, but not because of true magic. It's just the laws of probability. Some things you wish for simply happen and some dont. Just like praying, the rabbits foot, the four leaf clover, and every other superstition. There are no witches. Are you insane? Have you met anyone with magical powers? I would LOVE to have these powers. Anyone would. That is normal and healthy. Christians, and other religions like to suppress normal human behaviour and call it sin. We are all animals. We all have the same desires. But relgion wants us to repress our needs in the guise of sin.

Witches are stupid. Just as stupid as nuns.