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coby

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30 people. What percentage of anyone wants to watch toddlers and babies? Let's be generous and say 10%. And let's say you're part of that 10%. Three people sharing duties to watch toddlers. How long are you lasting and missing the service?
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We used to have 20 people or something but more people with kids so the parents just did it - one week this dad next week that mom. They're their kids so you have two workers already.
 
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coby

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We had a couple in church with a baby years ago and they complained that the music was too loud for their baby, if he could turn the volume down please. Now I also had a baby, he was so quiet, he just listened to the sermon, well it looked like it, but to protect his ears during worship I put earplugs in his ears. So this couple goes to him to complain. He says: buy some earplugs.
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Dan_473

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there are different 'styles' of churches, and imo, it's up to the pastor/leaders to decide what kind of church they want. {and it sounds like you've already talked to them.}

like, some churches use wine for communion because alcohol is no big deal there... others use only grape juice, for the opposite reason.

in some, social pressure is applied to get people to 'dress up'... in others, it's 'come as you are' (can you wear a bathrobe? I don't know).

so imo, the leaders decide what kind of church it is... and the lay-folks can 'vote with their feet'.

if the leaders would like to confront and are afraid to, they are already making a decision.
 
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My dad is a pastor..and yes, there have been noisy situations concerning nursery. However, in all cases, the actual room where the children are kept was either in the parsonage, or way down the hall, or in another facility, building, or behind thick closed doors...never where the sanctuary and children are near each other. That kept things more organized and quiet. Besides, the children's own parents could take turns too, although most don't because they want a break from them...sheesh.
 
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ramx2016

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Its your preachers responsibility, ask him to address the disruptions, and if he refuses, let him know your leaving. Its a small church, and if he loses enough members, he might do something about it. You can't have noisy and unruly children running around during a church service. Your Pastor should already know this, and the rude parents need a lecture.
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I was waiting for someone to post this! !00% true. The senior pastor is in charge of his congregation and needs to ensure order is kept. In EVERY other aspect of life we are distracted - church needs to be different - it's a time to celebrate and LEARN about our Savior!

If it isn't addressed, find another church that fits your needs. In my experience, small churches become a little too complacent, and some become judgmental and stray away from the Word....

And YES this IS the parents fault! We have 3 boys and would never allow this nonsense to happen! Not in public, and especially not in a house of prayer!

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coby

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ramx2016 said:
I was waiting for someone to post this! !00% true. The senior pastor is in charge of his congregation and needs to ensure order is kept. In EVERY other aspect of life we are distracted - church needs to be different - it's a time to celebrate and LEARN about our Savior!

If it isn't addressed, find another church that fits your needs. In my experience, small churches become a little too complacent, and some become judgmental and stray away from the Word....

And YES this IS the parents fault! We have 3 boys and would never allow this nonsense to happen! Not in public, and especially not in a house of prayer!

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There isn't even a kid's service. The pastor should have arranged that, he's the pastor, not the parents. Kids didn't have to shut up so the old people could listen with Jesus. He rebuked His disciples for not letting the kids come to Him. I sometimes told my ex: why don't you do it the other way around? Have a kid's service, let the adults be annoyed or go lead the kid's service if noone wants to and let them just sit there and listen to music or something. That'll teach them. Lol he didn't listen.
 
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everything in order in the church... the leaders of ScienceGuy's aren't here to say what 'style' they're aiming for.

Jesus was fine with children shouting in the temple.

I've taken part in a 'circle dance' done at the back of the church meeting place. would that be disallowed in some churches? yes. was it done decently and in order there? yes

so imo, noisy children aren't a problem if the leaders have chosen that style of service.
if they haven't, then it's up to them to address the situation.
 
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Toddlers are noisy and inattentive. They are not being wicked, they are being CHILDREN. So, here's an idea. How about loving and accepting children as they are. How about allowing the little ones to come to Him? I mean this earnestly. If noisy children in Body of Christ is the worst thing to be dealt with...life is pretty AWESOME. How can we proclaim to love children if we don't actually LOVE them? If we expect them to conform to us? The idea that CHURCH is not an acceptable place for CHILDREN unless they're in the nursery doesn't seem in keeping with the early church in Acts...or the teachings of Jesus.
 
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This may or may not be in your control but I can tell you in Korea they have a brilliant solution for loud children: a separate room in the back of the church with a big window. It's used by families with children who are being disruptive for whatever reason and also for people like me who need to talk to translate the sermon into another language. This way even when kids are being disruptive, they can still hear the sermon and be a part of it.

If your church has a lot of families with young children, you might want to suggest that to the pastor.
 
DiscipleDave

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ScienceGuy said:
Hi. I need some help/suggestions. I have some problems at church I don't know how to handle. We are a small congregation of about 30 so having nursery workers is difficult I know, but we have one couple with four kids. One is not a problem, but one is 4 and the other 2 are just walking. These three are constantly running around, crying, and just a continuous disruption but the parents do nothing and at times seem to promote the behavior. The parents even talk aloud to them during service. They sometimes bring noisy toys for them to play with. I can't even tell you all that goes on. My problem is that our preacher does, and will not do anything about it. How do I handle this? I don't want to leave. I like the church, but I have become very dishearted. Any ideas?
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The Truth will set you free. Tell your Preacher the Truth, that you can't handle the disruptions of the kids and that you are thinking about finding another Church. If the Preacher of the flock is not willing to address this issue and it is potentially going to cause some of the flock to leave, then IMHO that is not a Preacher that i would want for a leader of the flock.

Before you decide to leave, give the Preacher an opportunity to correct the situation.

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