should the age of consent be 14 or 15?

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Raeshelle

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You can't get married until you are 18 without your parents consent. So if you are not old enough to get married you are not old enough to be engaging in sex, and even then you should be doing it only if you are married.
 

Kathleen

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You can't get married until you are 18 without your parents consent. So if you are not old enough to get married you are not old enough to be engaging in sex, and even then you should be doing it only if you are married.

In britian u can get married at 16 with parental consent :D

.. :D ...
 
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There is something named lines. If you both know that kissing will lead you to sin, then stop with it till untill you are married. God isn't pleased by you having sex outside of marriage, and you know it is wrong, so why continue when God wants you both to wait untill you get married?
But I am incredibly attracted to him. =[ I don't think I can help myself.
 
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Well, I've already done it several times, and I really enjoy it to be quite honest. I have been with my boyfriend for 3 years, and I honestly believe I will go on to marry this man.

I have told myself over and over that I will not do it again until we are actually married, but it's hard once you're in the heat of the moment.

So, I was wondering if God would mind if I continued, or if I should try harder to stop until we are married. If I should stop, then I would like some tips. It's just so hard once we've been kissing and get really into it.

Misa Misa, I posted a different response & my internet access shut down when i went to post it. So I gave up & went to do my daily bible reading. These words were the next words read after reading your post.

1 Thessalonians 4:3 For this is the will of God, your sanctification: that you should abstain from sexual immorality; 4 that each of you should know how to possess his own vessel in sanctification and honor, 5 not in passion of lust, like the Gentiles who do not know God. " NKJV

I praise the Lord for his word, especially when I turn right to the passage necessary and totally and completely fitting to the situation. Note that this passage is not included in my daily reading, I just turned to it and read it. Do with it what you will but know that this is our instruction from God. You are a precious beautiful girl. My other post asked the question if your bf had proposed yet. I'm thinking not. He already has his cake. Just some words for thought.
 
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Misa Misa, I posted a different response & my internet access shut down when i went to post it. So I gave up & went to do my daily bible reading. These words were the next words read after reading your post.

1 Thessalonians 4:3 For this is the will of God, your sanctification: that you should abstain from sexual immorality; 4 that each of you should know how to possess his own vessel in sanctification and honor, 5 not in passion of lust, like the Gentiles who do not know God. " NKJV

I praise the Lord for his word, especially when I turn right to the passage necessary and totally and completely fitting to the situation. Note that this passage is not included in my daily reading, I just turned to it and read it. Do with it what you will but know that this is our instruction from God. You are a precious beautiful girl. My other post asked the question if your bf had proposed yet. I'm thinking not. He already has his cake. Just some words for thought.
That is quite the coincident! Your post has really given me something to think about.
 
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FixYourWeave

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Well, I've already done it several times, and I really enjoy it to be quite honest. I have been with my boyfriend for 3 years, and I honestly believe I will go on to marry this man.

I have told myself over and over that I will not do it again until we are actually married, but it's hard once you're in the heat of the moment.

So, I was wondering if God would mind if I continued, or if I should try harder to stop until we are married. If I should stop, then I would like some tips. It's just so hard once we've been kissing and get really into it.

I've been there done that, and most likely you will not marry this guy. Believe me, i know its hard in the heat of the moment, thats why you dont put your self in a situation that will lead to sex.
 
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wwjd_kilden

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Just a thought:

You guys (and gals) who want a lower age limit:

You do know it is there to protect you?....
 

Kathleen

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i dont want it lowered ... all i am/was saying was that a 14 yr old particapating volunterily in a sexual act..knows full well what they are doing imo

.. :D ..
 
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With the Lord there is no coincidence. God Bless you as you grow in Christ & in your knowledge of Christ.
 
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shad

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Lad, (hide these verses in your heart and don't depart from them)

Eph 4:19-24

19 Who being past feeling (through much pain) have given themselves over unto lasciviousness (unbridled lust, shamelessness), to work all uncleanness with greediness.
20 But ye have not so learned Christ;
21 If so be that ye have heard him, and have been taught by him, as the truth is in Jesus:
22 That ye put off (lay it aside) concerning the former conversation (lifestyle) the old man, which is corrupt according to the deceitful lusts;
23 And be renewed (through grace and truth) in the spirit of your mind;
24 And that ye put on (like you put on a coat) the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.

Gal 5:1

1 Stand fast (stand firm and do not waiver) therefore in the liberty (freedom to omit those things that do not pertain to salvation) wherewith Christ hath made you free, and be not entangled again (don't hold on but set yourself against) with the yoke of bondage (the sin that you yoked up with that ensnared you).

2Tim 2:22

22 Flee (run as fast as you can in the opposite drection) also youthful lusts (cravings and longings of that which is forbidden): but follow (flee and run after) righteousness (that which is right), faith (conviction of truth), charity (affection toward God), peace (mental safety), with them that call on the Lord out of a pure heart (follow those that depend on grace with a pure heart).
 
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It's called satistory( I don't know how to spell that sorry) rape. You were a child. Our laws today say 18 is adult. Wasn't very long ago the law was 21 is of age. 14 and 15 years olds are kids. Most adults are still kids in older bodies. Being 18 doesn't mean a person knows how to be a adult. For that matter a person can be 50 or 60 and still not know how to be a adult. You were prayed apon and that wasn't ok then or now. God bless you.
 
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greatkraw

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Still it is very wrong. You are still a child being 11, 12, 13, 14 and 15. I even think 16 is waay to young as well. Today's world is meant to destroy and pollute minds with the wrong views on maturity. That girl being 11 years old saying it was great having sex, she will later have a lot of mental issues to be dealing with later. Also taking abortion shows that she isn't even mature having sex, people that have this know that there might happen a pregnancy. Even though she wouldn't have taken abortion, still it doesn't means that she is mature for being a parent.

It is all sick to be seeing young teenagers destroying their lives and opening up for their sexuality even before they are being ready for it. Having sex is meant for enjoyment, yes, but also to make kids. It is inside of marriage too. If you aren't ready to marry, you aren't ready for any sex either. Being a child, is very precious moments also helping you to grow into creativity with your mind, learning to socialize through playing etc... When children feel like they need growing up faster, and become an adult at 11 years old, then something wrong is going on in their minds. There are sure kids that might seem more mature than other kids, but still, they keep on being a kid, and should be treated and seen like a kid.
Yes, Bella, there are whole generations growing up without experiencing childhood innocence. They are poorer for it.
 
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BellaFlor

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But I am incredibly attracted to him. =[ I don't think I can help myself.
Of course you can't help yourself, your flesh will continue pushing. But God can help you, if you pray, even when you are noticing anything happening, pray to God, keep your mind on him, and then the Holy Spirit will help you. I know this isn't easy.

The thing is, have you ever thought of how bad you'd feel if he suddenly decided to not being with you anymore? And that you have shared every bit of you supposed being into a marrital relationship? I am not saying that you are with the wrong guy. But this is also something that kept me from not crossing over into having sex with my now husband before we married, he respected this and also thought it best waiting till after we got married. You are more safe and sure once being married, then you both have given those special vows to each others and before God, and you know that you are destined to being together forever.

If you can't help it being attracted to him, perhaps you should just not do so much of those physical things together then till untill you are married? Perhaps that's the lines you need? And if this is the right man for you, he will truly respect this and be waiting with you till you both marry. So why fear about this if you are sure about him being the right one you want to marry? If he doesn't understands and aren't willing to be waiting for you, then he is probably not the right one for you.
 
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BellaFlor

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Yes, Bella, there are whole generations growing up without experiencing childhood innocence. They are poorer for it.
Yes, well, this is something I am proud of. I truly were a child till in my early teenage period somewhere. Still I could love playing, although I was also growing up, but still, I didn't wanted to call myself a woman untill I became 20 years old. When a lady said I was now a woman at 18 years old, I felt weird about it, saying that I still felt like being a girl. Still I wasn't ready for any relationships whilst being a teenager, I did thought I was, of course, but I beleive God was protecting me a lot during that period. I did had my share of crushes, but no boyfriends, not untill I got my first boyfriend(for real), that is now my husband as well. :) ;)

I think the childhood period is some very precious moments. You can sure get back to it when growing up, maybe most when being with kids or having your own kids. But truly, being a child is a very precious time, and I have heard about many young adults getting rebellious later because they didn't had any childhood, and they live a wild life before they finally settle down.
 
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greatkraw

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You have a lovely story Bella, And I am glad God kept you safe.
 
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Dread_Zeppelin

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the thought of any 14 or 15 year old having relations makes me wanna hurl. Change it to 20.
 
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Lad

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personally i think ppl 14/15 etc are wanting to have sex at that age because of three things. 1. they dont get enough love from their parents and look for it elsewhere. 2. the tv is so corrupt these days that children are learning things they shouldnt even know about at the age they are. (i heard a 6 year old talking about condoms just the other day. and 3. its a perfect example of the decaying world we live in, i reckon in about 20 years time youll probably have 8 year olds having sex...and itll most likely be legal. the world is such a horrible place and its just getting worse and worse and will continue too until our Lord comes back. So i believe that the church needs to once again find its voice, and restore unity and love within the body so we can face this depravity head on with Christs power and save souls!
 
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Re decaying world we live in... personally for me, I think it comes from being sexually abused as a young girl. I think that also effects boys too, who've been sexually abused & all of a sudden have "feelings" for other men. Noticed that with a step nephew of mine. Was abused by his biological dad and it effected his sexuality.
 
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greatkraw

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personally i think ppl 14/15 etc are wanting to have sex at that age because of three things. 1. they dont get enough love from their parents and look for it elsewhere. 2. the tv is so corrupt these days that children are learning things they shouldnt even know about at the age they are. (i heard a 6 year old talking about condoms just the other day. and 3. its a perfect example of the decaying world we live in, i reckon in about 20 years time youll probably have 8 year olds having sex...and itll most likely be legal. the world is such a horrible place and its just getting worse and worse and will continue too until our Lord comes back. So i believe that the church needs to once again find its voice, and restore unity and love within the body so we can face this depravity head on with Christs power and save souls!
There is way too much truth in this statement.

Years ago a strategy was put in place to make homosexuality acceptable.
Step one was simply to make it a subject of humour. This got people used to the idea.
We are now at the stage where in certain circumstances they get preferential treatment.

I have no doubt that there is a similar strategy to get us used to children having sex.
There are predators trying to bring this about.

In our courts you are most likely to get a lenient sentence for drink driving and for sex with a minor.
I often wonder what that says about our judges.
BTW The first judicial appointment to our Family law Court back in the 70s was a gay man. No accident.