Walking on the edge of divorce

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Rosesrock

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The truth is, that due to our incident, it's hard to sleep when I feel negativity in my heart, especially from conflict with someone I love and I can't sleep at all because of it (even with prayer). So, instead of hearing her say "Sigh" when she reads the book and looks at me with disappointing eyes and/or being belittled on random things while in bed, I went to the other bedroom to be at peace (I have a job where if I don't get enough sleep, I could most likely be in an accident due to no sleep). She thinks it's a good idea as well so that we can figure out ourselves and come back together later (I guess that makes sense).

Also, you think I was being prideful as well?
Go through your last post, how many I did you start sentences with??? Takes two to fight and one to swallow the pride to come back together. Dude i get feeling rejected, belittled and down right unwanted.....even in the mist of not being able to sleep..be still and know I am God...,,hes there whethet you feel him or not
 
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atwhatcost

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So, now we are talking and she admits to me that she told me she said she did not cheat on me and that she said it just to get a "rise" out of me, to hurt me. My Pastor is out for the week, so it's been scheduled for next week to have an appointment of just him and me. For the past couple of days, I have been reading/listening to Tony Evans kingdom family, and it has shown me a perspective that I was missing from my live and my family and I started to implement it into my life because I fell out of love for a bit with my wife on that day we got into a fight and I was looking forward to divorce, but I see where the breakdown has happened. Also, I was telling her how I fell out of love with her after that major blowup and gave it to God and now I've found my love for this marriage through God and to fight for it and that I want to see her fight for our marriage as well to show me that she really loves God.

I spoke to her about being the man of the house and that we can't have two "alphas" running the house. Her argument was that she felt like I wasn't the godly man that I should have been or else this situation would not happen (thus she will not submit to me at all). I agree (to a point), and I will work harder to be the type of man that this house needs, which means making God #1 priority even more. She also said that I hurt her deeply and it will take time to fall back "in-love" with me.

However, whenever I tell her what I did not like from my perspective on how she was treating me, she gets defensive and do not accept responsibility for her actions at all and thinks that I am scalding her. I also told her that if that what she thinks I am doing, I am not. Just like she wants to see changes in me, I want to see changes in her as well. She is still very aggressive and defensive and will have short discussions with me only about her romance "Books". I can hear her in the other room screaming "OMG, what a man", and sometimes run in my room to tell me how the guy beat up this other guy for the female character and how amazing it was.

I got to a point where when she did this again and again, I started to tell her "So what did God say about the situation" or "Hey honey, did you read the book I gave you about marriage (Tony Evans "The Kingdom family") so she can fill her head with God and not this romance novel stuff, she comes up with an excuse or just walks away disappointed. I can't talk to her about the relationship because she always says "I just want one day of not talking about negative stuff". So now talking about God in our marriage is negative stuff and it gets her angry, so now I am at the point where I don't want to even talk to her at all because she is just going to either going to blow up on me or tell me "that's why I am not in-love with you". I am currently sleeping in another room by choice because it's hard to sleep next to her with her currently personality and I refuse to walk on eggshells with her just to satisfy her "needs" when I am putting god first in my life before her (she believes that her personal happiness comes before God in this Marriage, which is why I think we are failing to communicate)

At this point I feel abused due to a selfish/prideful women and I am wondering if this marriage foundation is just too broken to even try to repair. I await the pastor next week but I have a feeling he just going to tell me that were "unevenly Yoked" and a divorce might be possibly the right answer. (worst case scenario)
I don't know who Tony Evans is but when you start talking about "two alphas," I don't want to know who he is. Find that phrase in the Bible and I'll give you a thousand bucks. lol Any particular reason you can't study the Bible to find out what a marriage is supposed to be like? Not like that one is skipped in it.

Also, just the way you're talking now, I'm not so sure who is the selfish prideful one is now.
 
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atwhatcost

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If you continue to fabricate lies about me and what I believe, I will begin reporting you to the moderators for it.

As I have said many times, I am NOT for illegal marriages in the U.S.. I am a celibate, single, unmarried Christian who does NOT have sex with other people nor advocate fornication, adultery, or sexual immorality in any form.

There is nothing in scripture that mandates anyone, male or female, to place themselves under a government body of matrimonial law if they wish to remain single. People can biblically choose to remain single and it is wholly moral if they are not engaging in sexual immorality. Understand?

Most Western males now are choosing not to marry and the percentage of those rejecting marriage is rapidly increasing. In fact, Pew Research reported that seventy percent of all males aged 18-34 are presently unmarried in the U.S. and half stated that they intend to never marry. Both percentages (e.g. unmarried and intent to never marry) amongst young males continue to rapidly rise. Soon, it will be eighty percent and then ninety percent.

The mainstream liberal media has done a poor job of reporting this and only viewed this unprecedented transition of young males away from marriage in modern Western civilization through the lens of feminism. The primary reason for this, of course, is not even on their list but rather that the body of matrimonial law in Western nations like the U.S. has become so increasingly harsh toward males over the past four decades in a culture that no longer honors and respects married males as it once did that males are rejecting it.

Increasingly most males no longer want to forfeit their liberty for a body of matrimonial law that deprives them of their liberty, renders them effectively an indentured servant to someone who's left them and is having sex with others, denudes them financially, deprives them of their progeny, allows the government to micromanage their lives and finances, puts them in jail and assign them a life-long criminal record negatively affecting their ability to earn for the rest of their life if they get sick or unemployed and cannot make court-ordered payments to someone long gone, etc...

They don't want any of that. Matrimonial law now posits very few benefits yet enormous liabilities for males during the marriage period and this increases exponentially upon separation. So, males are now largely opting out of placing themselves under it.

Pointing out this fact, in no way, equates to me being "for illegal marriages in the US." Stop creating lies about me because you don't like the truth of what I'm saying.
I can't find where I saw the original quote I picked up, but your full quote on the subject here:
As a single person; I don't fall under my nation's punishing anti-male body of matrimonial law which permits my government to deprive me of my liberty, assets, and income with the very real threat of incarceration in the nation's penal system and the acquisition of a criminal record that will follow me for the rest of my life negatively affecting my ability to earn and advance in organizations if I become sick or lose my job and cannot immediately find a new one to continue the forced court-ordered payments.

I enjoy my liberty and having control of the resources I earn through my labor. I enjoy not having the government running my personal life. I enjoy not having the severe liabilities associated with the present body of matrimonial law hanging over my head 24 hours a day seven days a week.

There are many legitimate and godly ways to experience warm fuzzy feelings, be a blessing to others, etc... in this life without signing a long-term contract of indentured servitude that impoverishes and comes with the threat of incarceration and a criminal record.

That's why I'm single and intend to remain so.
Still saying, since you won't get married, your opinions of what someone who is married should do is moot.
 
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AgeofKnowledge

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I never said what you falsely asserted "atwhatcost."

This:

"There are many legitimate and godly ways to experience warm fuzzy feelings, be a blessing to others, etc... in this life without signing a long-term contract of indentured servitude that impoverishes and comes with the threat of incarceration and a criminal record. That's why I'm single and intend to remain so."

In no way equates to what you fabricated:.

"You're for illegal marriages in the US."

^ You are lying.

And as I stated, I'm not against marriage. What I said was that I WAS FOR biblical marriage but not for the present anti-male punishing body of matrimonial law that's arisen over the past four decades. <--What part of that befuddled you to the point that you began fabricating falsehood regarding it and projecting the false you fabricated at me in an ad hominic manner?

As for your opinion that my human right and Constitutionally protected right to free speech should be denied me because you falsely believe I'm "against marriages in general [a lie you fabricated], I'd say that has to void your opinion instant [totalitarianism based on lies and false logic]. Logic [as if you ever took a logic 101 course] dictates you shouldn't even respond to marriage questions. [of course I should as reforming marriage needs to be a priority in our society to turn the present retreat that men are presently engaged in from marriage around].

You're not a good person: you lie and fabricated falsehood about people, you engage in ad hominem instead of addressing the topics, you attempt to deny people their right to free speech, etc...


I can't find where I saw the original quote I picked up, but your full quote on the subject here:

Still saying, since you won't get married, your opinions of what someone who is married should do is moot.
 
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AgeofKnowledge

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Here's a phrase in the Bible I want you to learn:

"You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor." -Exodus 20:16

Pulpit commentary: False witness is of two kinds, public and private. We may either seek to damage our neighbour by giving false evidence against him in a court of justice, or simply calumniate him to others in our social intercourse with them. The form of the expression here used points especially to false witness of the former kind, but does not exclude the latter, which is expressly forbidden in Exodus 23:1.


Find that phrase in the Bible and I'll give you a thousand bucks.
 
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WeightedWords

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Teach her what love really is. I was having this discussion with my step son last night because he has issues with the fact that his father and I are closer than his mother and father ever were. He started laundry listing his father's faults (much like your wife did your perceived faults) and when I objectively stated that, yes, his father did do some of the things he listed, he asked me with exasperation, "How can you possibly love him???". I had to laugh at the question because, in so many people's opinion, love is supposed to mean perfect harmony with no faults or controversy. The truth is... love's fruit isn't always in doing the exceptional and magnificent things. Love is usually fruitful by simply seeing the big picture; completing the small pieces like changing messy diapers and forgiving without reciprocity; and waiting. Waiting is the hardest part, isn't it? it requires trusting that anything will happen at all, let alone the thing you think or hope will happen. In your case love would be to worry less about your wife and marriage and just value your relationship with God. He's always there... He doesn't walk away. You are HIS bride as part of the church. I might recommend you point out to your wife all the times that God, the perfect husband, didn't slay the dragons and evil people. He used each and every situation created by faulty mankind to create something beautiful while letting each of us figure out just how much we need Him and the lessons He alone can teach. Solo Dei Gloria, right? Your wife chose to marry you in a binding commitment, and though you aren't perfect and you aren't exactly what she thinks she wants... she made her bed and needs to maintain it.
 

Jesus4ever

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Brother,

I´m very sorry to see what you´re going through! I just pray to God for Him to show you what you must do. One thing is for sure: your wife needs to go back to Jesus again! Really!!!

I will pray for your situation, brother.


May He bless you, your wife and your marriage!
 
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skylove7

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Id let that woman go brother!
Im sorry but she sounds too wild and promiscuous.
She is not taking the marriage faithfully...lovingly...or seriously.

Id say "See ya!"

And move on.
Perhaps after its all over someday you will find the right woman. But dont pursue a marriage dream thats not true.

I learned the hard way. I can sit and dream a man is all I ever waited for.

But its a dream.

Face reality...she sounds freaky and disrespectful to her good man. If your statement is true.

Id move on...just my opinion
 

Jimbone

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So, now we are talking and she admits to me that she told me she said she did not cheat on me and that she said it just to get a "rise" out of me, to hurt me. My Pastor is out for the week, so it's been scheduled for next week to have an appointment of just him and me. For the past couple of days, I have been reading/listening to Tony Evans kingdom family, and it has shown me a perspective that I was missing from my live and my family and I started to implement it into my life because I fell out of love for a bit with my wife on that day we got into a fight and I was looking forward to divorce, but I see where the breakdown has happened. Also, I was telling her how I fell out of love with her after that major blowup and gave it to God and now I've found my love for this marriage through God and to fight for it and that I want to see her fight for our marriage as well to show me that she really loves God.

I spoke to her about being the man of the house and that we can't have two "alphas" running the house. Her argument was that she felt like I wasn't the godly man that I should have been or else this situation would not happen (thus she will not submit to me at all). I agree (to a point), and I will work harder to be the type of man that this house needs, which means making God #1 priority even more. She also said that I hurt her deeply and it will take time to fall back "in-love" with me.

However, whenever I tell her what I did not like from my perspective on how she was treating me, she gets defensive and do not accept responsibility for her actions at all and thinks that I am scalding her. I also told her that if that what she thinks I am doing, I am not. Just like she wants to see changes in me, I want to see changes in her as well. She is still very aggressive and defensive and will have short discussions with me only about her romance "Books". I can hear her in the other room screaming "OMG, what a man", and sometimes run in my room to tell me how the guy beat up this other guy for the female character and how amazing it was.

I got to a point where when she did this again and again, I started to tell her "So what did God say about the situation" or "Hey honey, did you read the book I gave you about marriage (Tony Evans "The Kingdom family") so she can fill her head with God and not this romance novel stuff, she comes up with an excuse or just walks away disappointed. I can't talk to her about the relationship because she always says "I just want one day of not talking about negative stuff". So now talking about God in our marriage is negative stuff and it gets her angry, so now I am at the point where I don't want to even talk to her at all because she is just going to either going to blow up on me or tell me "that's why I am not in-love with you". I am currently sleeping in another room by choice because it's hard to sleep next to her with her currently personality and I refuse to walk on eggshells with her just to satisfy her "needs" when I am putting god first in my life before her (she believes that her personal happiness comes before God in this Marriage, which is why I think we are failing to communicate)

At this point I feel abused due to a selfish/prideful women and I am wondering if this marriage foundation is just too broken to even try to repair. I await the pastor next week but I have a feeling he just going to tell me that were "unevenly Yoked" and a divorce might be possibly the right answer. (worst case scenario)
Dang man, I'm sorry that you are in this situation. I remember that less than 6 months after I married my wife she started talking to this guy online too, nothing super bad but still not appropriate. It really had my mind blown because we were together 10 years before we got married just because I wanted to make sure when I took those vows that I meant them. This “talking” went on for a couple weeks and I had enough, the day I was coming home to let her know I was “DONE”, and wasn’t going to stick around to be “that guy”, that deals with this betrayal stuff like a chump, before I said a word she came up, hugged me, told me sorry and that she was 100% wrong and wouldn’t be speaking with this guy anymore at all, and had no idea what the heck she was thinking. I mean if that wasn’t God I don’t know what is, and it’s crazy how you never see this stuff like that until regenerated and looking back at it. I just wanted to say that to give a little hope that God can open her eye’s still no matter what.

The other thing I wanted to add, and unfortunately it’s not as encouraging, but the whole “she said it just to get a "rise" out of me“ , was just a backpedal because she regretted telling you, and the fact she was texting another man should be another clue it really happen. I think this because I’ve done the same thing to my wife, in the heat of battle I came clean and said “I cheated”, then once I saw it really hurt her and made her upset, then I just said it to “upset” her. I wouldn’t buy that for 1 second. That said just keep yourself prepared for it to possible resurface sometime in the future, maybe even long after you two come back together and everything is good. I would just keep it in mind, especially if you are going to keep on trying to make it work. It would really suck to get to a spot where you feel everything is awesome again to have this rear its ugly head again and mess it up, even though you both had moved on. I’m sorry to say this, but I just think it is something worth thinking about, and I just recognized a tactic that I myself have used in that same situation. All of that said, my wife and I are still together and working on 18 years together at 33 and 35 years old, which puts us being together for more of our lives than we weren’t, so there is always hope with God in your lives.
 
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WeightedWords

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Respect one's use of coloquialisms in their summation. Two alphas simply means two people vying for authority.
 

presidente

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Prayful,

It seems that your wife may not really understand what marital love is. She's probably seen too many movies and read too many sex books and romance novels. She should know that love involves commitment and accepting the other person. There is probably a basic flaw with her values, morals, and believe system. And she needs to repent.

I can understand if you would want to leave. I can imagine that if your wife slept with another man, it would be hard to take her back and sleep with her again. But I do think it is good to be forgiving and be willing to accept her if she will repent.

A wise woman knows not to depend too much on her feelings. She has to have the fear of the LORD and follow His ways no matter what her feelings are. If your marriage is based just on how she feels about you, it's very likely to fail. Women have all kinds of feelings, and they can get PMS, post partum blues, and all that kind of stuff. Our feelings as men can be unstable as well and are nothing to base a relationship on. Feelings are great, but love is something more than how we feel at the moment.

If you do try counseling and try to reconcile, you may be able to try to get some of these ideas into her head and get her to focus more on what God wants in her marriage. You could try a pastor or Christian counselor. She needs to stop thinking in terms of you completing what she wants in terms of her feelings and be concerned with pleasing the Lord, being a good wife, loving her husband, submitting to her husband, being faithful, and being a covenant keeper instead of a covenant breaker.

It sounds like she fantasizes about a dominant man who she can submit to. But on the other hand, she doesn't sound very submissive. I don't agree with a lot of what AgeofKnowledge is saying. I think we should be married in a way that society acknowledges, etc. But it may help you to be more 'alpha' and let up on the 'beta' a little bit. Be in charge. Act like you are in charge. Don't let her emotions call the shots. It may help to treat her a bit like a kid sister if she's being unreasonable. Gone with the Wind was a big chick flick way back when, and women loved the Rhett Butler character. If you get a chance to see how he handled Scarlett's temper tantrums, sometimes laughing them off, sometimes being a bit like a father figure, he never let them get to him, except there at the end when they started talking divorce. It's interesting that women would like a character like that. Your wife seems to be into fictional characters.

I haven't read 50 Shades of Grey, but before I got to the adultery part of your post, I was thinking, if she wants him to tie her up in the bedroom, why not just do that? She's probably got all kinds of fantasies, and there are things you could do that wouldn't hurt her that wouldn't be sinful. If you tied her up, she may see it's not really all that pleasant. If she wanted a dominant man for her to submit to, though, you wonder why she would react as she did when you told her not to read the novels, instead of submitting to you. She probably thinks she wants her fantasies, but doesn't really.

I'm suspicious of people who pray and then decide they were never married in the first place, or that the other person is not their husband or wife. I'm more than suspicious. You can't pray a past marriage away. If it were an invalid marriage, like to someone else's wife, or to a close relative, that makes sense.
 
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Deliver

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I like what Weightedwords said, simple statement: teach her what love really is.
She's immature, foolish and easily influenced by ridiculous romantic notions. But she can grow up and become wise and come to realise what real love is. You love her don't you? You married her, for better or worse. There's some growing up to do but it can happen.

Shes hurt you deeply, I understand that, but I can almost guarantee she will appreciate your love for her one day. And it doesn't have to be one day too late.
Love... Real love takes away hurt. You just keep loving through it. THATS real love. Someone hurts you and it doesn't make you stop loving them. And real love makes you not want to hurt them either.
You're acting like a hurt person - understandable - but don't make a big life decision when you're hurting.
 
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WeightedWords

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Also, you think I was being prideful as well?
How did you end up sleeping? Has it crossed your mind that maybe some of the things she's suggested for the bedroom (yes some might seem bizarre) arent a bad idea to try? In my experience, sometimes a less mature person wont be shown the error of their mentality until they get exactly what they asked for. I dont mean bring her pain... I mean show her what the type of lifestyle depicted in the literature she is valuing will leave her with no self respect and a whole lot of fear.
Dominant men in that type of loterature are actually the submissives... because they are chained to the desire for a reaponse from the acting sub. The "best" doms, as the book abows, are ones who have been a practicing submissive themselves. They have had the romance and desire to protect and nurture tortured out of them. The acting subs are the worst kind of narcissists. They are addicted to Performance.
Four things could happen if you give her what she wants. 1: she will actually like it and you would see a new side of her, 2: you would like it and there would be no mysteries 3: she would hate it and you both would see that it isnt for you... or 4: there would just be another illumination about how that type of lifestyle doesnt "work for everyone" and you will bond over a willingness to at least compromise. It is a fine line.
 
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DyingToSelf

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Prayful (Bear with me, this might be a long post...),

I know how it feels to have a marriage break apart with no hope of reconciliation.

I am now working my way in a brand new marriage with the SAME woman. Yes, it turns out too late wasn't too late for GOD.

We were on the brink of divorce and there were days we couldn't stand the sight of each other because it reminded us of the ugly fights, abuse, lies and hurts we put each other through. We tried to reconcile with each other on countless occasions but it always ended in a fight. It came to a point where I had moved out and she had gone to the lawyer to get the divorce papers drawn up.

I prayed for restoration but saw no improvement for more than half a year, each conversation seemed to drag us further towards divorce. Finally, I had a revelation and learnt some truths that made me a better child of GOD, a better husband and a better spiritual head of my household. I am here to testify to you-

1. Our GOD sanctioned marriage.
2. HE does not condone divorce.
3. HE can restore ALL things, it is NEVER too late for GOD.

Let me clarify these points with the Word. (Please do understand, I believe that the Word of GOD is absolute. It makes no mistakes and it does not contradict itself. I write this for your restoration and as a testament to my Saviour's unending faithfulness and grace to my family. I have no interest in arguing doctrine nor morals with any of the brothers and sisters here, Everyone is entitled to their own points of view...)

1. Our GOD sanctioned marriage.

Genesis 2:18

Then the LORD GOD said, "It is not good that the Man should be alone, I shall make him a helper fit for him."


We were meant to be married, GOD decided that Man was not meant to be alone.

2. HE does not condone divorce.

Mark 10:2-12

Some Pharisees came and tested him by asking, "Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife?"
"What did Moses command you?" he replied.

They said, "Moses permitted a man to write a certificate of divorce and send her away."

"It was because your hearts were hard that Moses wrote you this law," Jesus replied. "But at the beginning of creation GOD 'made them male and female.' 'For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh.' So they are no longer two, but one. Therefore what GOD has joined together, let man not separate."

When they were in the house again, the disciples asked Jesus about this. He answered, "Anyone who divorces his wife and marries another woman commits adultery against her. And if she divorces her husband and marries another man, she commits adultery."


The Bible writes that Jesus states that divorce is caused by the hardness of our hearts. If you examine every divorce carefully, you will realise that divorce always happens because one or both parties gave up and closed their hearts and thoughts to each other. This, I believe, is what Christ meant by "the hardening of hearts".

Let's not kid ourselves- We invented divorce to give us an easy way out of our marriage vows when the going gets tough. Just because there are many people doing the wrong thing doesn't automatically make it right. No matter what the world says about divorce, it was never GOD's plan.

3. HE can restore ALL things, it is NEVER too late for GOD.

Joel 2:25

"And I will restore to you the years that the locust hath eaten, the canker-worm, and the caterpillar, and the palmerworm, my great army which I sent among you."

Time has no hold in the face of GOD's power. He can reverse and restore any situation. I claim this for you and your marriage.


Precious Abba Father,

I pray for this brother and his wife, I believe you have kept count of their tossings and put their tears in Your bottle. I ask for Your divine hand on their marriage and protect them from the attacks of the enemy. I pray that You remind them of their marriage vows and remind them that You and only You, are the First and Last Word in their situation.

Remind them of Your loving kindness to them, teach them to be slow to anger and grant them favour in each others eyes. Hold their tongues that they may not speak hurtful words against each other in moments of anger, calm their hearts and teach them to release their hurt to You. Give them peace and wisdom in their hearts, that they may hear Your voice and move in Your direction.

Protect their ears from advice that does not come from Your Word and send your angels to defend them from temptation in this turbulent time. LORD Jesus, soften their hearts to each other, that they may remember that the husband is to love his wife like Christ first loved the Church- never abandoning her in her unfaithfulness of word and deed, always forgiving. Remind them that as the submission of the wife is not a position of subservience in fear, but a simple acknowledgement of his special place in her heart.

Remind them that the man is to love, provide and protect his family as the spiritual head of the household, while the woman is to gently and wisely lead her husband when he goes wrong. For a man may be a stubborn old mule, but he will always have a soft spot for the woman he loves. And a woman may grow into a sour cow, but she will always see in her husband shades of the dashing young knight who pranced in on a white horse to steal her heart away.

Father, I commit this young family into Your hands. Teach them to be patient and give them the desire to change their hearts for each other. Only You know the root causes of this rift between them, LORD, I ask that You lift them up and destroy the cause of the plague upon this marriage.

I pray all this in the name of my LORD and Saviour, Jesus Christ,

Amen.






 
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Agape24

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Prayful,
I hope things are getting better with time. I wanted to share something because although its not exactly the same, i can somewhat understand what you are going through. My husband and I have been married for a little over a year, and we are both in our 20's and we are both Christians. I have never read those books before, but I know that they are very sinful, and can cause people to have bad thoughts. About 7 months into our marriage, I found my husband hiding looking at pornography, in the morning he would get up for work, and then get on the computer before he left to look at sinful things. I found out because he accidentally forgot to clear his search history that day and it was on the screen when i got on the computer. So although he didn't physically cheat on me, he cheated on me in his mind if that makes sense. I honestly wanted a divorce that day, and I felt so ugly and I thought i wasn't good enough, like I wasn't pleasing him so it was my fault. The truth is it wasn't my fault but for the longest that's how I felt. To be honest, i packed up his stuff that day and when he got off of work, i told him to find somewhere else to stay because i wasn't having that in my marriage. He asked me if he could go to counseling for it, if he could do that, would i be able to hopefully trust him again. So the next day he started talking to our pastor and he told him what he did and although our marriage isn't perfect and i still have problems with trust or just comparing myself to others, God has helped our marriage and we are still fighting for it. I wouldn't say give up just yet. I know its hard and its painful, but maybe she will see that life isnt a fairytale and that marriage is something you have to constantly work on.
 
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BarlyGurl

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I stopped reading at "50 shades of grey" too. It is past time that OP take charge in the Position God has given you to serve HIM, and lead HER. The most practical way I can think of to do that is to go to your prayer closet and repent before the Lord for letting the "stormy circumstances" push you into that "crumbling house of destruction" situation. Ask The Lord to strengthen you and by faith receive that.... then I would suggest you go collect all that pornographic filth your wife has been reading... and destroy it! Do it in front of her, tell her YOU are going to serve GOD, that your home will be a sanctuary of Righteousness, ask her to forgive you for your failure to be alert to the encroachment of the enemy into your lives, and tell her you are going to be more aware in the future... but starting NOW... the unholy garbage goes... and shred, burn all those books.... and anything else that needs to go. I would encourage you to tell her, that you need some time to grow... but pursue &nbsp;GOD first ... not wife first.
 
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GypsyRebel

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I disagree...,i dont love my husband everyday but im commiting to God and the marriage. Through my own experiences, which are horrific and maybe ill share one day, God is for marriage. God does have a plan and it's this marriage. A marriage should nevet dissolve just because feelings change. Im thrilled my husband didnt just give up on me
I agree! But then again since 2001, when we were married. My husband has left me twice. Currently we are separated. He told me to have the papers filled out. But hasn't said file them. He too has said similar things. Although he has never said he doesn't love me. He says he does.

I believe on our God. My mess I have placed in our Lords hands. His plan is mine. I trust him. I trust God will fix your marriage if it is his will.
 
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Comomol

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So sorry to hear you and your wife are going through this. If it is at all possible, try to get some counseling with a Christian marriage counselor. Your wife is escaping into a fantasy world. A good counselor would get to the root of this. If your wife is repentant there is always hope in the marriage. Your wife would have to agree to keep the third party out of your marriage while you guys gave it a fair shot at a marriage counselor. When you add a third party to a marriage, and are unwilling to give that person up then the marriage won't work. Is your wife willing to kick the other guy out of your marriage?
 

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So sorry to hear you and your wife are going through this. If it is at all possible, try to get some counseling with a Christian marriage counselor. Your wife is escaping into a fantasy world. A good counselor would get to the root of this. If your wife is repentant there is always hope in the marriage. Your wife would have to agree to keep the third party out of your marriage while you guys gave it a fair shot at a marriage counselor. When you add a third party to a marriage, and are unwilling to give that person up then the marriage won't work. Is your wife willing to kick the other guy out of your marriage?

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