9/11 Miracle Mattress

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blue_ladybug

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Tommy379 said:
Lets see, A tort requires 4 elements.
1. The defendant owed the plaintiff a certain duty of care. A duty of care is simply an obligation to behave in a way that doesn’t cause harm.
2. The negligent party acted (or failed to act) in a way to breach that duty. For example, a driver acting recklessly could count as a breach of duty.
3. The plaintiff suffered an injury.
4. The injury was a direct result of the breach of duty.

In other words.... no.
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1.) The "defendant" owed the general public some respect. He breached that duty by letting the commercial get on tv. His duty of care DID cause harm to the public.

2.) The "defendant" DID breach his duty of care, as did his daughter & employees. They should be held accountable to the public for it.

3) The plaintiff(s) DID suffer an injury. Not physically, but emotionally and mentally. They should be recompensed.

3.) The injury DID result as a breach of the defendant's duty.

Soooooo, in other words, YES..
 
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Ultimatum77

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I think suing them is going over-board. Did they say something inappropriate yea, but they have a right to express themselves under the constitution even if their opinion/view is contrary to most Americans. People shouldn't want to tar and feather them just for something they said....don't buy a mattress from them fine...but trying to tear their business up and bring them down over a commercial is way too much....lynch mob mentality, people make mistakes and we shouldn't act like we have never said anything that offended and later been sorry for it.....
 
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Tommy379 said:
Sure, if the families can prove a loss, and show Saudi Arabia was the proximate cause, then they can sue.

What of monetary value has anyone lost because of a stupid commercial in Texas?
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Forgive me if I'm wrong but I think he was talking about 9/11 not the commercial...
 
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blue_ladybug said:
1.) The "defendant" owed the general public some respect. He breached that duty by letting the commercial get on tv. His duty of care DID cause harm to the public.

2.) The "defendant" DID breach his duty of care, as did his daughter & employees. They should be held accountable to the public for it.

3) The plaintiff(s) DID suffer an injury. Not physically, but emotionally and mentally. They should be recompensed.

3.) The injury DID result as a breach of the defendant's duty.

Soooooo, in other words, YES..
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By your logic, most the people that post on this site should be sued.
 
blue_ladybug

blue_ladybug

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Tommy379 said:
Sure, if the families can prove a loss, and show Saudi Arabia was the proximate cause, then they can sue.

What of monetary value has anyone lost because of a stupid commercial in Texas?
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They don't need to prove a loss. Everyone in the entire world, in every country, state, nation, etc. knows what happened on 911.. It was aired on TV 24-7 for quite awhile, it's on YT, AND it will get aired again tomorrow.. As far as monetary value, pretty sure the owner of the mattress shop is losing mucho dinero right now.. JMO
 
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Tommy379 said:
Sure, if the families can prove a loss, and show Saudi Arabia was the proximate cause, then they can sue.

What of monetary value has anyone lost because of a stupid commercial in Texas?
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One doesn't sue explicitly for "monetary value". "has anyone lost because of a stupid commercial in Texas?" Depends on the definition of loss. In this case emotional loss may be the catalyst.
 
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Huglife said:
Forgive me if I'm wrong but I think he was talking about 9/11 not the commercial...
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Read all the post if you need to. This thread is about a matress commercial. Blue lady stated that the matress store should be sued. I then listed the elements of a tort to show that you can't really sue over having your feelings hurt. Than some one else tried to make some weird arguement that I must be arguing the families can't sue Saudi Arabia over the 911 attack, and you are responding to that response.
 
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Tommy379 said:
Read all the post if you need to. This thread is about a matress commercial. Blue lady stated that the matress store should be sued. I then listed the elements of a tort to show that you can't really sue over having your feelings hurt. Than some one else tried to make some weird arguement that I must be arguing the families can't sue Saudi Arabia over the 911 attack, and you are responding to that response.
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yes I know all of that... I believe you misunderstood the purpose of that post...
 
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Huglife said:
yes I know all of that... I believe you misunderstood the purpose of that post...
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No I didn't misunderstand the purpose of his post and I answered it by saying "Sure, if the families can prove a loss, and show Saudi Arabia was the proximate cause, then they can sue."
 
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Tommy379 said:
No I didn't misunderstand the purpose of his post and I answered it by saying "Sure, if the families can prove a loss, and show Saudi Arabia was the proximate cause, then they can sue."
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I was talking about mine. Just forget it
 
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Ultimatum77 said:
I think suing them is going over-board. Did they say something inappropriate yea, but they have a right to express themselves under the constitution even if their opinion/view is contrary to most Americans.
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It would be just as silly as half of the "deplorable Trump supporters" suing Hillary Clinton or everyone suing Trump for the things he has said.

Liberty means we have to allow people to do/say things we won't always agree with.
 
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Sirk said:
I never said that....but I do keep in mind that truth is often stranger than fiction. And the content of that video is quite the coincidence.
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How can you believe that video is real? Yes I know he was reading to children that morning, but do you really think that they were chanting, steel, building plane.
 
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CharlieGrown

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KimPetras said:
It would be just as silly as half of the "deplorable Trump supporters" suing Hillary Clinton or everyone suing Trump for the things he has said.

Liberty means we have to allow people to do/say things we won't always agree with.
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What you say is true, and I agree. However, there's that plumb line of Truth that gets in the way at times.
 
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