-
Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.
If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!
To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.
I have free Canadian health care
No you do not. No health care is free, someone pays for it
''My point is that she is going on Obamacare the minute it comes out in Jan.''
Obamacare is NOT free health care. It forces you to have health insurance. If, you work. If, you want to be a responsible citizen and not expect to be taken care of. IF, you are an adult.
I grew up and left home and my life is on me. Not my parents. Not the government. You can sell yourself to the government store but thousands of people died in the Civil War to stop private ownership of slaves.
Now, it seems public ownership of slaves is acceptable.
Freedom, is hard. It means taking personal responsibility and...hardships. When the government says it will help you?
RUN RUN RUN.
The government is there only to control you. Yep you have ''free'' health care...poor quality and filtered through government decision making....and you are being controlled.
Tyranny always starts out like this.
No you do not. No health care is free, someone pays for it
''My point is that she is going on Obamacare the minute it comes out in Jan.''
Obamacare is NOT free health care. It forces you to have health insurance. If, you work. If, you want to be a responsible citizen and not expect to be taken care of. IF, you are an adult.
I grew up and left home and my life is on me. Not my parents. Not the government. You can sell yourself to the government store but thousands of people died in the Civil War to stop private ownership of slaves.
Now, it seems public ownership of slaves is acceptable.
Freedom, is hard. It means taking personal responsibility and...hardships. When the government says it will help you?
RUN RUN RUN.
The government is there only to control you. Yep you have ''free'' health care...poor quality and filtered through government decision making....and you are being controlled.
Tyranny always starts out like this.
A
I'd like to see that information so I can qualify it. One thing that will be slightly different is that the U.S. can print money which Greece cannot. So their will be currency devaluation occurring at the same time austerity is implemented if the politicians resort to simply printing money out of thin air when the ability to borrow and spend is finally curtailed because no one will lend us money anymore to spend on welfare, government sprawl, GWOT, etc...
A
Read this:
Les Leopold: Big Lie: America Doesn't Have #1 Richest Middle-Class in the World... We're Ranked 27th!
Look at the reasons for it. Only one reason on the list has to do with the lack of a government program causing poverty. There is an exception to your statement and it comes in the form of health care. Understand that here in the U.S. we pay much more than other industrialized countries for health care and get much less for our money in return.
The number one cause of poverty in the U.S. for Americans who were not previously impoverished is due to a lack of affordable health care. The number one cause of bankruptcy in the U.S. is due to a lack of affordable health care. The number one cause of small business failure in the U.S. for small businesses that are more than ten years old (note that new businesses have a high failure rate for the first five years) is due to the owner ending up in bankruptcy due to a lack of affordable health care. Illness strikes and we become impoverished and bankrupt.
Les Leopold: Big Lie: America Doesn't Have #1 Richest Middle-Class in the World... We're Ranked 27th!
Look at the reasons for it. Only one reason on the list has to do with the lack of a government program causing poverty. There is an exception to your statement and it comes in the form of health care. Understand that here in the U.S. we pay much more than other industrialized countries for health care and get much less for our money in return.
The number one cause of poverty in the U.S. for Americans who were not previously impoverished is due to a lack of affordable health care. The number one cause of bankruptcy in the U.S. is due to a lack of affordable health care. The number one cause of small business failure in the U.S. for small businesses that are more than ten years old (note that new businesses have a high failure rate for the first five years) is due to the owner ending up in bankruptcy due to a lack of affordable health care. Illness strikes and we become impoverished and bankrupt.
A
A while ago Greece actually threw the non citizens out of the hospitals onto the streets because money was so tight they were running out of things like bandages and essential medicines. I heard Obama say that a 65 year old won't get the same level of care as a 25 year old so granny is out of luck! In Britain the National Health Service is a disgrace I could fill this page with horror stories, not from the newspapers but things that have happened to my family and friends. 6 months waiting list for radiation treatment for cancer because of the shortage of equipment, 18+ months waiting list for heart bypass surgery, filthy hospitals because there's not enough money for cleaning staff and nurses and doctors who have been brought in from other countries who have problems with the English language which has led to major mistakes. Former Prime Minister Gordon Brown apologized to the country for the state of the National Health Service which should give some indication how bad it is. It's going to be a train wreck here!
The number one cause for small business failure is a lack of health care....???????
How about taxation and regulation? How about poor business decisions?
That's absolutely ridiculous. You can find a study on anything, does not make it true.
Most americans had health care insurance. Most who do not have health insurance did not want it. That leaves about 12 million without health insurance in our nation......are you saying small business owners do not have health insurance and that is the number one reason for their business failure??
No one could believe that.
''Understand that here in the U.S. we pay much more than other industrialized countries for health care and get much less for our money in return.''
That's false. PAYING for health care and its cost are two completely different things. Just because the money does not come directly from your pocket does not mean its free or inexpensive. Filtering ANYTHING through the government with all of its buraeucracy always makes things more costly.
If you want health care costs to drop, do not destroy it by involving the government.
How about taxation and regulation? How about poor business decisions?
That's absolutely ridiculous. You can find a study on anything, does not make it true.
Most americans had health care insurance. Most who do not have health insurance did not want it. That leaves about 12 million without health insurance in our nation......are you saying small business owners do not have health insurance and that is the number one reason for their business failure??
No one could believe that.
''Understand that here in the U.S. we pay much more than other industrialized countries for health care and get much less for our money in return.''
That's false. PAYING for health care and its cost are two completely different things. Just because the money does not come directly from your pocket does not mean its free or inexpensive. Filtering ANYTHING through the government with all of its buraeucracy always makes things more costly.
If you want health care costs to drop, do not destroy it by involving the government.
You're right, we are already taxed so people can gee free food, transportation, housing, cell phones, cash, daycare, education, State HEALTH INSURANCE, child birth, cleaning services, ect.
People CAN get insurance but they refuse to pay it. Now Those that had insurance because THEY WORK are seeing their premiums increase and benefits decline. Just so people can mooch off others.
People CAN get insurance but they refuse to pay it. Now Those that had insurance because THEY WORK are seeing their premiums increase and benefits decline. Just so people can mooch off others.
The Affordable Care Act is an oxymoron. Prior to this law it would have cost me approximately $500 per month (almost a week's income) to purchase health insurance. Now I can purchase medical insurance for a little over $100 per month, but the annual deductible is soooo high that if I were to actually need any serious procedure in a given year it would still cost me over $500 per month once you factor in the deductible.
It's ok oncefallen. In the event you need a major procedure the government can now decide if you should have it or not. Since you probably wouldn't be able to pay it they can by law refuse to allow you to have that procedure. Sure, you could die because of this buts it's all ok. Euthanasia and genocide is ethical now thanks to Obama.
A
That's what the Democrats want because that way he'll be forced to be another Democrat voter to survive. Of course, the house of cards is going to start coming down in a few years. You just can't massive deficit spend like we are forever without it eventually degrading and then collapsing if they ride it all the way to the end of the line. Detroit, San Bernardino, etc... have already been through it. Wait until the entire country does.
And since the neocons that rule the Republican party are only fiscally conservative when they are out of power, that's probably where's going to go: the end of the line. Wait for it.
And since the neocons that rule the Republican party are only fiscally conservative when they are out of power, that's probably where's going to go: the end of the line. Wait for it.