Boston Bombing Suspects: The Tsarnaev Brothers

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PeteWaldo

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I am sorry is it blasphemous to follow the rules of the chat ? You racially attack Ishmael and all Arabs. I cannot respond and you are the one that is not happy ? lol
Since the Ishmaelites were absorbed, the seed of Ishmael would transcend race today. What I pointed out to you is that scripture tells us the seed of Ishmael were specifically cut out of God's covenants with Abraham's seed. That's just the way it is. It is amazing that so many people in the world proudly proclaim themselves to be of his seed today. Those covenants are specifically through the seed of Isaac and Jacob.

Luke 13:28 There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you [yourselves] thrust out.

When a person is born again, we are grafted in, and are inheritors of the promises made to the seed of Isaac and Jacob. This is about a person's spiritual condition, not race, as your post complains. Race is a matter of the flesh.

Rom 2:28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither [is that] circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: 29 But he [is] a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision [is that] of the heart, in the spirit, [and] not in the letter; whose praise [is] not of men, but of God.

But as long as you put your effort into DISbelief, rather than seeking out truth, you cannot expect to understand.

1Cr 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know [them], because they are spiritually discerned.

All you have to do is sincerely seek out the truth, and ask Jesus for His help, with an open heart.

Mat 7:7 Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you: 8 For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.
 

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Since the Ishmaelites were absorbed, the seed of Ishmael would transcend race today. What I pointed out to you is that scripture tells us the seed of Ishmael were specifically cut out of God's covenants with Abraham's seed. That's just the way it is. It is amazing that so many people in the world proudly proclaim themselves to be of his seed today. Those covenants are specifically through the seed of Isaac and Jacob.
and diobedient and unbeliving israelites were also CUT OFF, out of the Covenant.

since you're an Hasbara agent and don't understand the scriptures: the Covenant that God is concerned with is The New Covenant, the Promise made to Abraham and Jesus.

forgiveness of sins in His Name and eternal life for all who believe, jew or gentile (including 'ishmael').

Galatians 3:29
If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

anyone not belonging to Christ is not Abraham's seed.
anyone not belonging to Christ is not an heir according to the promise.

what promise, zone?

Galatians 3:16
The promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed. Scripture does not say "and to seeds," meaning many people, but "and to your seed," meaning one person, who is Christ.

what? you don't believe that antisemite Paul?
go check the LXX...seed...singular. CHRIST.

any Land promises were fulfilled long ago.

you don't believe any of it.

this is funny:

Since the Ishmaelites were absorbed, the seed of Ishmael would transcend race today. What I pointed out to you is that scripture tells us the seed of Ishmael were specifically cut out of God's covenants with Abraham's seed. That's just the way it is.
gloating.

the only problem for you is...Abraham's seed is Christ, and all who are in Christ.
there's no Old Covenant anything for anybody.

the Khazars were never Israelites anyway:rolleyes:
they were originally phallic worshipping extortionists and slavers.
they never had anything promised by God.

they converted 700 years after Jesus and the New Covenant.
so, the sci-fi fantasy of gentile Talmudic converts being preserved under and old Covenant that doesn't exist is a pathetic lie, and you're going to answer for it.

arabs are the semites, btw.

they all need the Gospel.

too bad you don't know what it is.
go away and learn it.
or just go away.
 
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zone

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But as long as you put your effort into DISbelief, rather than seeking out truth, you cannot expect to understand.

1Cr 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know [them], because they are spiritually discerned.
this applies to you.
since you don't know, and in fact are terrified of Galatians - the death knell to your gaga.

Galatians 3:16
God gave the promises to Abraham and his child. And notice that the Scripture doesn't say "to his children," as if it meant many descendants. Rather, it says "to his child"--and that, of course, means Christ.

what does the above mean, pete?
:rolleyes:
 

zone

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Since the Ishmaelites were absorbed, the seed of Ishmael would transcend race today. What I pointed out to you is that scripture tells us the seed of Ishmael were specifically cut out of God's covenants with Abraham's seed. That's just the way it is.
pete: see this defeated Khazar warrior?



Ukrainian Prince Sviatoslav's Defeat Of The Khazar Army 968 Ad Picture

what's on his shield?

is it a hexagram?

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Theosophy (from Greek θεοσοφία theosophia, from θεός theos, divine + σοφία sophia, wisdom; literally "divine wisdom"), refers to systems of esoteric philosophy concerning, or investigation seeking direct knowledge of, presumed mysteries of being and nature, particularly concerning the nature of divinity.

Theosophy is considered a part of the broader field of esotericism, referring to hidden knowledge or wisdom that offers the individual enlightenment and salvation. The word esoteric dates back to the 2nd century CE.[1] The theosophist seeks to understand the mysteries of the universe and the bonds that unite the universe, humanity and the divine. The goal of theosophy is to explore the origin of divinity and humanity, and the world. From investigation of those topics theosophists try to discover a coherent description of the purpose and origin of the universe.

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What I pointed out to you is that scripture tells us the seed of Ishmael were specifically cut out of God's covenants with Abraham's seed. That's just the way it is.
how's that Dual Covenant workin' out, pete?
is God in covenant with Theosophists and Pagan Magicians ?
 

zone

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Tamerlan Tsarnaev was killed in a police shootout. His brother Dzhokhar is on the run.

Youtube account registered under the name Tamerlan Tsarnaev, may also belong to the suspect. It was last updated two months ago, with the subscription to a channel called “Allah is the One.”

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Graham Fuller, Uncle Ruslan, the CIA and the Boston Bombings

by F. William Engdahl

Are there too many coincidences in the Boston Bombings official narrative to call them coincidences? Behind each one lurks the shadow of Graham Fuller—a top CIA strategist who famously advocated co-opting Islamic extremists to further advance the US agenda in Central Asia—and his cozy ties with the accused brothers’ uncle. William Engdahl delves into the ramifications of the Fuller-Tsarni connection, the most compelling of the Boston smoking guns, and the threatening can of worms it has opened up.

One of the many unexplained (at least not officially) anomalies of the persons claimed to have carried out the Boston Marathon bombings is the presence of key CIA figure in the direct family of the accused brothers.

Ruslan Tsarnaev, the outspoken uncle of the brothers was married to Samantha A. Fuller until 2004. Samantha’s father is Graham Fuller, the senior CIA person who architected the Afghan Islamic fundamentalist Mujahideen war against the Soviets. He is also implicated in creating a global jihad network, presumably acting on behalf of CIA interests.

Ruslan Tsarnaev, who changed his name to Ruslan Tsarni, lives in a posh Washington DC suburb of Bethesda Maryland. He has worked in the past for companies tied to Dick Cheney’s Halliburton as well as a “consultant” in Kazakhstan with the State Department’s USAID which has been identified as a CIA front. [1] Take it all in: The two brothers, Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, Tamerlan Tsarnaev, accused though never proven in a court of law to have been responsible for the Boston Marathon bombings, had an uncle, the same uncle who agreed to bury the remains of the one dead brother. This uncle was married to the daughter of Graham Fuller, one of the most important CIA architects of using Islamic Jihadists/terrorists against the USSR during the Cold War and after, throughout Central Asia, including Chechnya and Kazakhstan. Coincidence?
 

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Graham Fuller, Uncle Ruslan, the CIA and the Boston Bombings

by F. William Engdahl

Are there too many coincidences in the Boston Bombings official narrative to call them coincidences? Behind each one lurks the shadow of Graham Fuller—a top CIA strategist who famously advocated co-opting Islamic extremists to further advance the US agenda in Central Asia—and his cozy ties with the accused brothers’ uncle. William Engdahl delves into the ramifications of the Fuller-Tsarni connection, the most compelling of the Boston smoking guns, and the threatening can of worms it has opened up.

One of the many unexplained (at least not officially) anomalies of the persons claimed to have carried out the Boston Marathon bombings is the presence of key CIA figure in the direct family of the accused brothers.

Ruslan Tsarnaev, the outspoken uncle of the brothers was married to Samantha A. Fuller until 2004. Samantha’s father is Graham Fuller, the senior CIA person who architected the Afghan Islamic fundamentalist Mujahideen war against the Soviets. He is also implicated in creating a global jihad network, presumably acting on behalf of CIA interests.

Ruslan Tsarnaev, who changed his name to Ruslan Tsarni, lives in a posh Washington DC suburb of Bethesda Maryland. He has worked in the past for companies tied to Dick Cheney’s Halliburton as well as a “consultant” in Kazakhstan with the State Department’s USAID which has been identified as a CIA front. [1] Take it all in: The two brothers, Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, Tamerlan Tsarnaev, accused though never proven in a court of law to have been responsible for the Boston Marathon bombings, had an uncle, the same uncle who agreed to bury the remains of the one dead brother. This uncle was married to the daughter of Graham Fuller, one of the most important CIA architects of using Islamic Jihadists/terrorists against the USSR during the Cold War and after, throughout Central Asia, including Chechnya and Kazakhstan. Coincidence?
The Fuller CIA Link

The discovery of the connection between a very, very senior CIA man, Graham Fuller, to the uncle of the accused Boston bombers was more than a bit embarrassing for Fuller. He took what for a professional CIA agent was an extraordinary step of issuing a public denial. In an exclusive interview on what reportedly is a CIA-linked website, “Back Channel—Al-Monitor,” Fuller hurriedly denounced media links of his CIA connection to the bombers’ uncle: “…possible connections between Ruslan and the Agency through me are absurd.” [2] Fuller then went on to admit, “Samantha was married to Ruslan Tsarnaev (Tsarni) for 3-4 years…They also lived in our house in [Maryland] for a year or so…” [3]

Fuller went on to claim Ruslan was “homesick” for Chechnya, and that his English was “shaky,” yet after the Boston bombings, a very English-fluent Ruslan gave a press conference from his posh Maryland home denouncing his nephews.

The central question is who is Graham Fuller? The answer turns out to be that he was perhaps if not THE most instrumental, one of the most instrumental people inside the CIA during the 1980’s who convinced CIA Director Bill Casey and the Reagan Administration to recruit fundamentalist Muslim Salafists or Jihadists from Saudi Arabia, Pakistan and elsewhere, train them in techniques of guerilla insurgency and send them against the Soviet-occupied Afghanistan. They were called Mujahideen. [4] One of the more famous of those Mujahideen was a young Saudi from a very wealthy family named Osama bin Laden. In a sense then we might call Graham Fuller the “Godfather of Al Qaeda.”

Fuller was also the key CIA figure in convincing the Reagan Administration to tip the balance in the eight-year-long Iran-Iraq war by using Israel to channel weapons to Iran in what became the Iran-Contra Affair. As well, in 1999, around the time his daughter Samantha and “Uncle” Ruslan Tsarni (aka Tsarnaev) lived at his home near Washington, Fuller, former Deputy Director of the CIA’s National Council on Intelligence, then a senior figure at the Pentagon and CIA-linked neo-conservative RAND corporation, advocated using Muslim forces to further US interests in Central Asia. He stated,

“The policy of guiding the evolution of Islam and of helping them against our adversaries worked marvelously well in Afghanistan against [the Russians]. The same doctrines can still be used to destabilize what remains of Russian power, and especially to counter the Chinese influence in Central Asia.” [5]

This is precisely what happened in Chechnya with hundreds of CIA-trained Jihadists and Al Qaeda fighters sent into Chechnya, Dagestan and other parts of the former Soviet Union, precisely where Uncle Ruslan and his two Tsarnaev nephews came to the USA from. Coincidence?

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Graham Fuller, Uncle Ruslan, the CIA and the Boston Bombings | Part I < click


 
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