CHINA says That A “State Of War” Now Exists With UNITED STATES

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And that was NOT an invitation for a trib sidetrack, please.
 

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Going to war with China would be a bad to mistake. Our country's economy is bad also they will have a pretty much infant supply of soldiers
 

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state of war

-As China stocks sink, some accuse Morgan Stanley, other foreign forces
As China stocks sink, some accuse Morgan Stanley, other foreign forces - MarketWatch

-Panic sets in as Shanghai Composite drops 30pc, $3.7 trillion wiped of China share market despite crackdown
Panic sets in as Shanghai Composite drops 30pc, $3.7 trillion wiped of China share market despite crackdown - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

-Jul 4th, 2015 -The Ministry of Foreign Affairs (MoFA) is reporting today the Federation
has been informed by the State Council of the Peoples Republic of China (PRC)
that a de facto “State of War” now officially exists between that Asian nation
and the United States of America.

China Warns Russia That “State Of War” Now Exists With United States | EUTimes.net

-The European Union Times is not a tabloid magazine,European Union Times is an international
newspaper based in Europe with operational branches in America and Canada.

According to this report, following the “provisions and protocols” of the 8 May 2015
Russian-Chinese Cyber-Security Agreement that states a signatory to this pact
[that anticipates the outbreak of hostilities] is obligated to immediately inform the other
so that “war preparations” needed to protect critical infrastructure can be undertaken,
the PRC has informed the Federation that these “conditions now exist”.

-8 May 2015 Russian-Chinese Cyber Security Agreement
China-Russia cyber-security pact: Should the US be concerned? | Russia Direct.

The document identifies the key threats to global information security, which both countries intend
to stand against together. These threats include the use of technology “to carry out acts of aggression
aimed at the violation sovereignty, security and territorial integrity of states,” “to interfere in the
internal affairs of states,” to cause economic damage, to commit crimes, including data breach,
for terrorist purposes, or to disseminate information that “harms political and socio-economic systems,
or the spiritual, moral and cultural environment of other states.”

As to the wisdom of the Obama regime attacking the PRC’s financial markets in retaliation for their alleged
hacking of US government servers, this report continues, it appears to be both “juvenile” and “ill timed” as China,
with its holding of over nearly $4 trillion in foreign reserves, compared with the United States $121 billion…
and with China’s citizens having a staggering $21 trillion saved compared to their American counterparts
who have only $614 billion…is more than prepared to retaliate.

And making this situation even more fraught with danger, MoFA experts in this report warn,
in a further response to the Obama regimes attacking them, two senior Chinese military leaders yesterday
called on the People's Liberation Army to beef up its naval capacity and combat readiness amid
a higher risk of “warfare on the doorstep”.

-China blames the U.S. for market losses, and the view as an attack and at “State of War”.
and by this new treaty, China has to tell Russia, so they can make “war preparations”.
we can call it crying wolf , or it be taken serious, like other threats [they have] attacked U.S.

-this is repeat history folks, when a country wants dominance, they secure there back border first,
then turn to there globel plans, and that is what china and russia are doing.

-that just what the artical says-that a de facto “State of War” now officially exists between
that Asian nation and the United States of America,- that this reporting got under the radar.

-December 2, 2014 -Cybercom Chief Details U.S. Cyber Threats
Defense.gov Special Report: Cyber Strategy
http://science.dodlive.mil/2014/12/02/cybercom-chief-details-u-s-cyber-threats/
WAR? - China-Threat
 
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Is China at war with the dollar ?
World Bank - Bio, News, Photos - Washington Times

President Obama turned the World Bank into a tool to push his climate-change agenda

the Washington Times.“The battle of wills between Beijing and Washington over a China-sponsored
development bank for Asia is turning into a rout,” “The Obama administration has found itself isolated
and embarrassed as its top allies lined up to join the Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank.”

some recent posts from the Washington Times

Democratic titans say Obama ‘screwed up’ and gave rise to China’s new bank
American boss of World Bank ignores Obama, welcomes new Chinese bank
Defensive Obama denies trying to subvert China’s new bank after diplomatic humiliation
U.S. allies humiliate Obama, rush to join China’s new bank
Diplomatic disaster: Obama humiliated by allies’ rush to join China’s new bank
Australia latest U.S. ally to sign on to new Chinese development bank
China celebrates Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank charter signing with U.S. allies

-March 20, 2015 -Who’s Afraid of the Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank?
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...d-of-the-asian-infrastructure-investment-bank-
 

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-July 8, 2015-Vladimir Putin: Russia, China will jointly ‘overcome all the problems before us’
Vladimir Putin: Russia, China will jointly 'overcome all the problems before us' - Washington Times

-July 8, 2015-Russian nuclear threat grows
Inside the Ring: Russian nuclear threat grows - Washington Times

-July 1, 2015 -Threat of war with major power ‘low, but growing,’ military strategy report warns
War threat growing with Iran, Russia, North Korea: National Military Strategy - Washington Times

-June 19, 2015 -Russia nears deal to supply China with 24 Su-35 fighter jets by year’s end
Russia nears deal to supply China with 24 Su-35 fighter jets by year's end - Washington Times

-June 15,2015-Iran urges China to play greater role in nuclear talks as Tehran seeks closer military ties
Iran urges China to play greater role in nuclear talks as Tehran seeks closer military ties | South China Morning Post

-June 7, 2015-Putin’s Plan in Ukraine: Invade, Wait—and Invade
The Vatican's Holocaust

-June 4, 2015-Chinese breach data of 4 million federal workers
https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...-hackers-breach-federal-governments-personnel-
office/2015/06/04/889c0e52-0af7-11e5-95fd-d580f1c5d44e_story.html

-May 14, 2015 -French flotilla in Shanghai fuels talk of deal
Inside China: French flotilla in Shanghai fuels talk of deal with China - Washington Times

-May 8, 2015-Diplomatic diss to Obama: Russia, China step up ties with new investment bank
Diplomatic diss to Obama: Russia, China step up ties with new investment bank - Washington Times

-April 30, 2015 -Russia is hoarding gold; you should worry
L. TODD WOOD: Russia is hoarding gold; you should worry - Washington Times

-April 30, 2015-New Russia-China alliance latest diplomatic, strategic blow to Obama
New Russia-China alliance latest diplomatic, strategic blow to Obama - Washington Times

-April 16, 2015 -US: Growing China, Russia military activity in Asia-Pacific
US: Growing China, Russia military activity in Asia-Pacific - Washington Times

-April 15, 2015 -Russia returns to Cold War posture
Inside the Ring: Russia Cold War posture resumes with Pacific military activity - Washington Times

-April 13, 2015 -Russia shields Iran from airstrikes, puts Obama nuclear deal in political peril
Russia shields Iran from airstrikes, puts Obama nuclear deal in political peril - Washington Times

-April 13, 2015 -Russia, China among countries lining up to cash in as Iran sanctions relief looms
Iran sanctions relief has Russia, China, Turkey lining up to cash in - Washington Times

-April 1, 2015 -Cheers to good frenemies! China investing in cyberwarfare superiority
China invests in cyberwarfare to compete with U.S. military - Washington Times

-Jan. 28, 2015 -As Middle East Burns, Obama's 'Pacific Pivot' Remains in Place
http://www.usnews.com/news/articles...ific-pivot-still-in-place-despite-isis-russia-
threats

-December 17, 2014 -Intel concerns about Russia-Cuba ties preceded Obama’s deal to dismantle sanctions
Inside the Ring: U.S. intel concerns about Russia-Cuba ties preceded Obama's sanctions deal - Washington Times

-December 4, 2014-Second Sino-Russian alliance shatters illusions
JAMES LYONS AND RICHARD FISHER: China, Russia build military alliance as U.S. strategy weakens - Washington Times

-November 21, 2014 -Russia and China plan regular joint naval exercises for Pacific
Russia and China plan regular joint naval exercises for Mediterranean, Pacific - Washington Times

-November 20, 2014-Iran: Nuclear negotiating position strengthened by Russia deal
Iran: Nuclear negotiating position strengthened by Russia deal - Washington Times

-November 11, 2014 -Russia’s nuke deal with Iran troubles U.S.-led talks on Tehran’s atomic program
Iran, Russia strike nuclear reactor deal - Washington Times

-Sep 29, 2014-The Kremlin gives the green light to shut down the Internet
The Kremlin gives the green light to shut down the Internet | Russia Direct

-April 30, 2014 -House panel moves to stop Russia spy flights over U.S.
Inside the Ring: House panel moves to stop Russia spy flights over U.S. - Washington Times

-January 13, 2014 -Hypersonic arms race: China tests high-speed missile to beat U.S. defenses
Hypersonic arms race: China tests high-speed missile to beat U.S. defenses - Washington Times

-December 29, 2013 -U.S. Cold War rivals China, Russia step up challenges to Obama’s Asia pivot
U.S. Cold War rivals China, Russia step up challenges to Obama's Asia pivot - Washington Times

-June ,2013,Obama’s torment: U.S. loses secrets, prestige as Russia, China protect Snowden
U.S. loses secrets, prestige as China, Russia defy Obama over Snowden - Washington Times

-May 1, 2013 -Inside the Ring: Russia builds up, U.S. down
Inside the Ring: Russia builds up, U.S. down - Washington Times
 
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The two nations, along with Russia, are forming an anti-West power bloc, making it
difficult for the West to deal with Iran’s nuclear program effectively.

The distraction is also welcomed by China. In the South China Sea, the Chinese have been steadily
building their artificial islands—unsinkable aircraft carriers. The move is just the latest and most
extreme move by China to lay claim to the potentially resource-rich and geographically vital region.
On the doorstep of the Philippines and other key U.S. allies in the area, this is an aggressive and
blatant attempt by China to bully its way onto the critical trade region. Thankfully for China, Iran’s n
uclear program represent a far more pressing and attention-grabbing headline. So the islands are
silently rising, and Chinese belligerence goes on

the site of the Chinese project is Mischief Reef. That’s 800 miles from China, but only 150 miles from the
Philippines. China claims ownership of Mischief, but according to the United Nations Convention on the
Law of the Sea, it belongs to the Philippines. It falls well within the Philippines’ 200-nautical-mile e
xclusive economic zone.

China claims ownership of [about 90] percent of the vast South China Sea and is also reclaiming land
on six other disputed reefs. So far, Beijing has created more than 1.5 square miles of landmass on
the reefs. And the operations are increasing, both in pace and scale.

CORRECTED-New images show China's reclamation on Mischief Reef in South China Sea | Reuters

While the new islands will not overturn U.S. military superiority in the region, Chinese workers are building ports and
fuel storage depots as well as possibly two airstrips that experts have said would allow Beijing to project power deep
into the maritime heart of Southeast Asia

China claims [the entire] South China Sea.
Brunei, Malaysia, the Philippines, Taiwan and Vietnam also have claims on
a waterway where $5 trillion in ship-borne trade passes annually.

On the new islands, China is building fuel storage facilities, ports, surveillance posts and airstrips. Many experts are
convinced that China’s intentions are to militarize the islands, which would enhance China’s ability to project power in
the region.

James Hardy of ihs Jane’s Defense Weekly said: “We can see that this is a methodical, well-planned campaign to
create a chain of air and sea capable fortresses across the center of the Spratly Islands chain.”

At the current pace, Beijing’s claim of owning the South China Sea could become reality
before anything can be done to challenge it.

that U.S. President Barack Obama is unwilling to confront the Chinese activity with anything beyond
the gentlest rhetoric. Last week, he said that by developing the islands, China “is not necessarily
abiding by international norms and rules and is using its sheer size and muscle to force countries into
subordinate positions.” Not necessarily? Such statements provide no comfort to the Philippines and other
smaller Asian nations. But the idea of being drawn into a conflict with China is nearly too unbearable for
Washington to contemplate. So the most the Obama administration will do is to gingerly chide Beijing, and look the other way.
 
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-June 12, 2015-ATTACK ON THE PETRO-DOLLAR:
ATTACK ON THE PETRO-DOLLAR: China pays Gazprom in Yuan…There are now TWO reserve currencies-
currencies/

-May 8, 2015 -Russia, China sign infrastructure deals worth billions
Vladimir Putin, Xi Jinping sign infrastructure deals worth billions in Moscow - Washington Times

-May 25, 2014 -Russia’s Putin gains strategic victory with Chinese natural gas deal
Russia's Putin gains strategic victory with Chinese natural gas deal - Washington Times

-May 21, 2014 -China signs giant 30-year deal with Russia for natural gas
China signs giant 30-year deal with Russia for natural gas - Washington Times

-Apr 09, 2014 -Russia prepares to attack the petrodollar
https://pressall.wordpress.com/2014/04/09/russia-prepares-to-attack-the-petrodollar/

-Jul. 06 2015 -Duma Approves Construction of $4 Billion Kerch Bridge to Crimea
http://www.themoscowtimes.com/busin...ves-construction-of-4-billion-kerch-bridge-to-
crimea/525168.html

China is Iran’s largest purchaser of crude oil.
The Asian nation’s oil imports increased nearly 30 percent last year.

Iran supplys oil through Russian pipelines to China,next year Russia can cutoff oil from europe
 
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-May 8, 2015 -Russia and China Pledge Not to Hack Each Other
Russia and China Pledge Not to Hack Each Other - Digits - WSJ

-November 20, 2014 -China has power to shut down U.S. power grid with cyberattacks: NSA director
China has power to shut down U.S. power grid with cyberattacks: NSA director - Washington Times

-November 12, 2014 -EDITORIAL: China’s climate con is another Obama scam
EDITORIAL: China's climate con is another Obama scam - Washington Times

-April 16, 2014 -Inside the Ring: U.S. power grid defenseless from physical and cyber attacks
Inside the Ring: U.S. power grid defenseless from attacks - Washington Times

-March 17, 2014-GOP warns Obama plan could give China or Russia control of Internet
GOP warns Obama plan could give China or Russia control of Internet - Washington Times

-May 27, 2013-Confidential report lists U.S. weapons system designs compromised by Chinese cyberspies
https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...ential-report-lists-us-weapons-system-designs-
compromised-by-chinese-cyberspies/2013/05/27/a42c3e1c-c2dd-11e2-8c3b-0b5e9247e8ca_story.html

https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...ential-report-lists-us-weapons-system-designs-
compromised-by-chinese-cyberspies/2013/05/27/a42c3e1c-c2dd-11e2-8c3b-0b5e9247e8ca_story.html

In January, the advisory panel warned in the public version of its report that the Pentagon is unprepared
to counter a full-scale cyber-conflict. The list of compromised weapons designs is contained in a
confidential version, and it was provided to The Washington Post.

Some of the weapons form the backbone of the Pentagon’s regional missile defense for Asia, Europe
and the Persian Gulf. The designs included those for the advanced Patriot missile system, known
as PAC-3; an Army system for shooting down ballistic missiles, known as the Terminal High Altitude
Area Defense, or THAAD; and the Navy’s Aegis ballistic-missile defense system.

Also identified in the report are vital combat aircraft and ships, including the F/A-18 fighter jet,
the V-22 Osprey, the Black Hawk helicopter and the Navy’s new Littoral Combat Ship, which is designed to patrol waters close to shore.


-March 10, 2011 -China deemed biggest threat to U.S.
China deemed biggest threat to U.S. - Washington Times
 
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Not a single reputable source in any mainstream media reporting this.

I suggest you get a mod to move it to the Conspiracy forum, where you can beat this topic to death, without any reference to reality.
china is our friend and will not hurt the U.S. view, belongs to the Conspiracy forum trash bin.

people need to wakeup to reality, is staring us in the face, america has won there last battle..
 

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china is our friend and will not hurt the U.S. view, belongs to the Conspiracy forum trash bin.

people need to wakeup to reality, is staring us in the face, america has won there last battle..
The real question is, what did China ever done to you, personally?

Don't like China made products? Don't buy them or make it yourself.
Don't like Chinese food? Don't eat Chinese food.
Don't like Chinese culture? Don't get involve in Chinese culture.

You will soon realise you are just marginalizing yourself out and sadly missing a lot of things.

The world is an integrate place. That's how the (world wide web) internet works, that's how economy works etc..
By the way, I have to remind you China has billions of people. If you are going to pick a fight with the whole country, just because of a hand full of people that have "hurt" you in the past, that's just plain silly. Everyone is different, you can't just label everyone as a group. :p
 

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What do you think God want us, Christians to do?

Blessed are the peacemakers,
for they will be called children of God.

Matthew 5:9


 

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The real question is, what did China ever done to you, personally?

Don't like China made products? Don't buy them or make it yourself.
Don't like Chinese food? Don't eat Chinese food.
Don't like Chinese culture? Don't get involve in Chinese culture.

You will soon realise you are just marginalizing yourself out and sadly missing a lot of things.

The world is an integrate place. That's how the (world wide web) internet works, that's how economy works etc..
By the way, I have to remind you China has billions of people. If you are going to pick a fight with the whole country, just because of a hand full of people that have "hurt" you in the past, that's just plain silly. Everyone is different, you can't just label everyone as a group. :p
so where have I personally attacked a chinese person?
so where have I stated I want a war with China?
so china has our back, and I am picking a fight with the whole country?

-that Chinese breached data of 4 million federal workers.
was this an attack by chinas gov. , is our country and people being attacked by china?
I have no ill will directed to anyone here or overthere.


But if the watchman see the sword come, and blow not the trumpet, and the people
be not warned; if the sword come, and take any person from among them, he is taken
away in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at the watchman's hand.

16And the number of the army of the horsemen were two hundred thousand thousand:
and I heard the number of them.

-where do you think this 200 million man army comes from, - from the asian continent,
the world is not at peace, and disintegrating into race wars as we speak.
 
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oh i should add that this 'EU times' source is -constantly- running stories about impending war between russia and the united states or russia and the european union or china and the united states...it is a fantasy of theirs...
 

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oh i should add that this 'EU times' source is -constantly- running stories about impending war between russia and the united states or russia and the european union or china and the united states...it is a fantasy of theirs...
mabe this headline, from a more reliable sorce for you.

'We should be very clear: China is at virtual war with the United States'
China at virtual war with US - Business Insider
 

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Not China but their buddies from Russia... this is the 12th time this year... they always tilt to show their bomb loads, like flipping our flyers off... Just found this interesting considering China's war declaration to the US was delivered to Russia...



Washington (CNN)
"Good morning, American pilots. We are here to greet you on your Fourth of July Independence Day."That was the message two Russian bombers delivered while flying within tens of miles of the California coast this month to the U.S. fighter jets that intercepted them, according to the North American Aerospace Defense Command....

July Fourth message not the first from Russian bombers - CNNPolitics.com
 

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Not China but their buddies from Russia... this is the 12th time this year... they always tilt to show their bomb loads, like flipping our flyers off... Just found this interesting considering China's war declaration to the US was delivered to Russia...
what I found interesting was that Russia and China made a security pact,

then China felt they where attacked by U.S., when there stocks went down,

and they informed russia to prepare for war, as per security agreement,

because they are planning something, and knows Obama will let it happen.


this quiet message to russia from china, was not to proclaim to U.S. they where at war with us,

we will know when they have declaired flat out war with us, but it will be too late by then.


all we have to do is see by there fruits, and China and Russia are at a state of war with U.S.
 
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mabe this headline, from a more reliable sorce for you.

'We should be very clear: China is at virtual war with the United States'
China at virtual war with US - Business Insider
wowzers.

my dad reads the Business Insider religiously..

Just letting you.. you forgot to emphasises this part for your thread...

in the second last paragraph of that artricle you posted in the Business Insider..


mabe this headline, from a more reliable sorce for you.

'We should be very clear: China is at virtual war with the United States'
China at virtual war with US - Business Insider

According to the article you posted from Business Insider..


“There’s no effective defence against these attacks and, as we’ve seen, there’s also no effective deterrence,” he said. “China isn’t trying to engage in ‘integrity’ attacks against the US — they don’t want to destroy American institutions and architecture as, after all, they’re hugely invested in American economic success.”

that is from the article you pasted previously...
China isn’t trying to engage in ‘integrity’ attacks against the US

they don’t want to destroy American institutions and architecture as, after all, they’re hugely invested in American economic success


You see, according to Business Insider, China," they don’t want to destroy American institutions and architecture as, after all, they’re hugely invested in American economic success"
 
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