CHINA says That A “State Of War” Now Exists With UNITED STATES

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Humiliatus

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what I found interesting was that Russia and China made a security pact,

then China felt they where attacked by U.S., when there stocks went down,

and they informed Russia to prepare for war, as per security agreement,

because they are planning something, and knows Obama will let it happen.


this quiet message to Russia from china, was not to proclaim to U.S. they where at war with us,

we will know when they have declared flat out war with us, but it will be too late by then.


all we have to do is see by there fruits, and China and Russia are at a state of war with U.S.
I just had a brain leak ... what if what the scientist say is true about the Cascadia fault line in the Pacific Northwest, the one that runs from Vancouver to Northern California they say is over due... won't that put the tidal wave in Russia? A really big one, a wipe out? Maybe God will take care of the problem for us... Just a thought!... hehehe
 

bowharp

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Hopefully, that doesn't happen to Vancouver or the rest of Northwest :(
 
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I guess its hard for the USA to see that China has grown to the power it has. They are Australia's strongest trading partner and the major nation of Asia which Australia and New Zealand are a part. The talk here I can see is ant-china...that's a shame because they are one of the worlds strongest economies. The next nation to follow as a super power will be India and other Asian nations will follow. I'm not sure its smart of any country including the USA to be anti-any Asian country. But that's up to them I guess.
 
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mabe this headline, from a more reliable sorce for you.

'We should be very clear: China is at virtual war with the United States'
China at virtual war with US - Business Insider
well having read the article and not just the headline i found out that this is just an article about international hacking and information espionage which is often hyperbolically referred to as 'cyber warfare'...that is the 'virtual war' they are talking about...

so this article does -not- provide any validation of the anti western tabloid 'EU times' and its latest fantasy of imminent war breaking out against the united states...
 

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well having read the article and not just the headline i found out that this is just an article about international hacking and information espionage which is often hyperbolically referred to as 'cyber warfare'...that is the 'virtual war' they are talking about...

so this article does -not- provide any validation of the anti western tabloid 'EU times' and its latest fantasy of imminent war breaking out against the united states...
so you think 'cyber warfare' China attacking us, is not a threat.

anyway my point is because China and Russia,
are againest the U.S., in other links posted, we know that they -

are at war with the petro dollar,

are at war with the world reserve dollar,

at war stealing military secrets using cyberwarfare.

we are in a Hypersonic arms race for long range weapons.

also building on reefs that we are obliged to protect by traety of law.

a space war with Russia, China, that could wipe out our electric systems.

do you know that the U.S. have shrunk from the world scene,
other nations are stepping up in filling in the void we leave.

Russia and China beefing up there militarys, we slash lower then ever.
there is so many resorces needed for chinas growing nation,

which resorces are becomming very much short in supply around the world.
so call a [state of war what you want], or be blinded about hostile nations,

to argue about one message from China to Russia not happening, and not see bigger picture.
again this went under the radar, was not even addressed to the U.S., but
does not really matter if message legit or not, we see them by there fruits or actions.

we all have the right to believe what we want, we are in the 21 century,
even like Obama says, nations don't act like they did in times past, lol.

but one day we might or will wakeup and find , your dollar is worth nothing
 
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the point is that the cyber security threat from china is very different from china and russia preparing to declare war and fire missiles at us or whatever the 'EU times' tabloid article is trying to imply...
 

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from post #4

According to this report, following the “provisions and protocols” of the 8 May 2015
Russian-Chinese Cyber-Security Agreement that states a signatory to this pact
that anticipates the outbreak of hostilities is obligated to immediately inform the other

so that “war preparations” needed to protect critical infrastructure can be undertaken,
the PRC has informed the Federation that these “conditions now exist”.
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Posting new Updates of the “war preparations” China have done since then.
Remember World trade wars most always proceeds a physical war between nations.
 

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The Belt and Road Initiative
History shows most times, a trade war precedes a military war.

China is promoting what Beijing calls the Belt and Road Initiative, a development
program of land and sea routes over 60 nations in Asia, Europe and Africa.

One Belt/One Road, connecting the old "Silk Road"trade routes
https://www.bing.com/images/search?...608039059030346037&selectedIndex=0&ajaxhist=0

China is also building a “Digital Silk Road” which will provide a state of the art, closed tele-
communications and even space communications system for the entire Eurasian landmass.

China’s surge of foreign economic development programs, including the colossal One Belt/One
Road project. When accomplished, One Belt/One Road will create a fully integrated Eurasian
infrastructure for trade and commerce, stretching from China’s eastern coast all the way to
Europe, the Middle East and Africa.
 

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China building up it's military port base in Pakistan

January 3, 2018 China building another military base in Pakistan
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/jan/3/china-plans-pakistan-military-base-at-jiwani/

China is constructing its second overseas military base in Pakistan as part of a push for
greater power projection capabilities along strategic sea routes. The facility will be built
at Jiwani, a port close to the Iranian border on the Gulf of Oman, according to two people
familiar with deal.

Plans call for the Jiwani base to be a joint naval and air facility for Chinese forces, located
a short distance up the coast from the Chinese-built commercial port facility at Gwadar,
Pakistan. Both Gwadar and Jiwani are part of Pakistan’s western Baluchistan province.

The Chinese also asked the Pakistanis to undertake a major upgrade of Jiwani airport
so the facility will be able to handle large Chinese military aircraft.
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China also has leased a port on the Indian Ocean island of Sri Lanka that recently
opened at Hambantota. The facility has raised concerns in India that views China
as a growing regional and global threat.

Chinese vital link in the OBOR project—the deep-sea port of Hambantota.
August 22, 2017A scary glimpse into how China's OBOR can ruin small countries
https://www.defencenewsindia.com/a-scary-glimpse-into-how-chinas-obor-can-ruin-small-countries/
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Oct 14, 2017 India takes on China at another battlefront: A Sri Lankan airport
https://economictimes.indiatimes.co...a-sri-lankan-airport/articleshow/61079813.cms
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December, 2017 CHINA signs 99-Year Lease on HAMBANTOTA PORT
China signs 99-year lease on Hambantota Port | Sunday Observer
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“Chinese investment in Pakistan is expected to reach over $46 billion by 2030 with
the creation of a [China-Pakistan Economic Corridor] connecting Balochistan’s Gwadar
Port on the Arabian Sea with Kashgar, in Western China,” Harrison Akins, a researcher
at the Howard Baker Center who focuses on Pakistan and China, told Newsweek.
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Jan. 4, 2018 Trump, Citing Pakistan as a ‘Safe Haven’ for Terrorists, Freezes Aid
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/04/us/politics/trump-pakistan-aid.html


The decision, which could affect as much as $1.3 billion in annual aid, came three days
after President Trump complained on Twitter that Pakistan had “given us nothing but
lies & deceit” and accused it of providing “safe haven to the terrorists we hunt in Afghanistan.”
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Jan 08, 2018 Pakistan angered by Trump's aid freeze, terrorist "safe haven" remark
Pakistan angered by Trump's aid freeze, terrorist "safe haven" remark


Pakistan: As US freezes aid, Asian country dismisses economic fears -- for now - World - Pulse
Why Is China Building a Military Base in Pakistan, America’s Newest Enemy?
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Jan. 16, 2018 President Trump Is Pushing Pakistan Away From the U.S.
https://www.thetrumpet.com/16781-president-trump-is-pushing-pakistan-away-from-the-us


"While numerous terrorists and terrorist organizations have safe haven in the country,
Pakistanis themselves face many of the worst consequences of terrorism.

Pres Trump quoted figure of $33billion given to Pakistan over last the 15yrs.
Khawaja Asif, Pakistan’s foreign minister, told Mr. Trump he should hire
an American auditing firm to verify his figures:

A mere 24 hours after President Trump’s tweet, the Pakistanis decided they
would switch from the dollar to the yuan when trading with China.


At the end of this feud, what’s left is an America sick of Pakistani games, a Pakistan
sick of American insults, and China waiting to capitalize on it all. While America withdraws
its $255 million aid, China has promised $57 billion worth of investment on infrastructure
and energy—all a part of its One Belt, One Road project to connect China, through trade,
all the way to Europe".
 

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China takes Over Control of Greek Port of Piraeus
The government-owned China Ocean Shipping Company (cosco)

August 11, 2016 China’s Cosco Takes Over Control of Greek Port of Piraeus
https://www.thenationalherald.com/133088/chinas-cosco-takes-over-control-of-port-of-piraeus/
https://www.joc.com/port-news/europ...ires-control-greek-port-piraeus_20160810.html
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Jan 13, 2017 China Cosco gets $26B for Belt and Road initiatives
https://www.joc.com/international-t...s-26b-belt-and-road-initiatives_20170113.html

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China Military Base on Horn of Africa, Granting Access to Middle East

Jul 2017 China Opens First Overseas Military Base on Horn of Africa,
China Opens First Overseas Military Base on Horn of Africa, Granting Access to Middle East

The United States’ Camp Lemonnier in Djibouti, the only permanent American military
base on the African continent, houses an estimated 4,000 American troops and contractors.

The base will also be conducive to overseas tasks including military cooperation, joint
exercises, evacuating and protecting overseas Chinese and emergency rescue, as well
as jointly maintaining security of international strategic seaways.”
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April 23, 2017 American Gen. Thomas Waldhauser, the top U.S. commander in Africa,
emphasized that Djibouti’s “is very, very important to our strategic interests” during
a joint press conference with Secretary Mattis at Camp Lemonnier back in April.
https://www.defense.gov/News/Transc...s-and-gen-waldhauser-at-camp-lemonnier-djibo/
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Why Washington Should be Worried

“Washington might find that the country hosting its only military base in sub-Saharan
Africa owes more favors to China, its rising global rival, than to the United States itself.”
https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/east-africa/2015-04-23/china-comes-djibouti
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https://www.defensenews.com/global/...ina-negotiating-horn-of-africa-military-base/
https://mg.co.za/article/2015-07-30-us-frets-over-its-sole-base-in-africa
China deal threatens only American military base in Africa - Telegraph
 

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China Controls Darwin port in Australia for a Century.

The contract has thrown Australia directly into the middle
of a heated contest between the United States and China.

Dec. 2015 Australia relinquishes Darwin Port, lease to Chinese
http://christianchat.com/christian-...a-relinquishes-darwin-port-lease-chinese.html

Australian Defense Minister Marise Payne only knew about the lease “a few hours”
before the contract was announced by the Northern Territory government. President
Obama didn’t know beforehand at all. The country that stations 2,500 troops right
there in Darwin—was not even told.
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Dec 2016 How the sale of Darwin port to the Chinese sparked a geopolitical brawl
https://www.theguardian.com/austral...t-to-the-chinese-sparked-a-geopolitical-brawl
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March 2016 U.S. Casts Wary Eye on Australian Port Leased by Chinese
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/21/world/australia/china-darwin-port-landbridge.html
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The U.S. marines and support vessels stationed in Darwin easy monitered.
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July 2016 ‘Paper cat’ Australia will learn its lesson
‘Paper cat’ Australia will learn its lesson - Global Times
 

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The South China Sea Conflict

The South China Sea “Beijing and Washington are on a collision course"
https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=south+china+sea&qpvt=South+China+Sea&FORM=IGRE

“Beijing and Washington are on a collision course over contested waters"

The International Court of Justice in The Hague ruled on July 12, 2016 against China’s
claims of ownership over the South China Sea. The case had been brought to the court by
the Philippines, which is one of several countries whose territories are being claimed by China.

The court said, despite Beijing’s claims to the contrary, there was no evidence that China
historically exercised exclusive control over the waters of the region. The court also
accused China of acting in violation of the Philippines sovereign rights by its building and
militarizing of islands off the coast of the Philippines, and by muscling its way into the
Philippines’ exclusive economic zone.
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Writing in the Telegraph on July 12, Ambrose Evans-Pritchard said that instead of
calming the South China Sea, The Hague ruling will escalate tensions at “the most
dangerous fault-line” on the planet. “Beijing and Washington are on a collision course
over these contested waters, the shipping lane for 60 percent of global trade,” he wrote.

“It is the latest in a series [of] ominous developments in Asia and Europe that are rapidly
subverting the Western international system and setting off a global rearmament race
with strong echoes of the late-1930s.....
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July 2016 Global arms race escalates as sabres rattle in South China Sea
Global arms race escalates as sabres rattle in South China Sea
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Former ADF head says China’s military rise in South China Sea is almost complete
South China Sea: Beijing’s military ramp-up is nearly complete, Sir Angus Houston says
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December, 2017 South China Sea: How 2017's forgotten flashpoint could flare again
South China Sea: Why 2017's forgotten flashpoint is likely to flare again - CNN
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December, 2017 Chinese Report Says South China Sea Islands Expanded "Reasonably"
https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/chi...china-sea-islands-expanded-reasonably-1791837
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China is building a series of man-made islands, 800 miles from China’s shore. These islands
are being installed with anti-aircraft batteries and fighter jets are stationed on them. …

These militarized islands now function as forward bases for Beijing to challenge seven
decades of American naval dominance in the Pacific Rim. This should alarm the world!
China is intimidating the nations of Southeast Asia into submission to its will.
 

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December, 2017 Vietnam Follows Beijing With South China Sea Upgrades of Its Own
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...jing-with-south-china-sea-upgrades-of-its-own
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January, 2018 China Objects To Vietnam's Call For Indian Investment In So. China Sea
https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/chi...-indian-investment-in-south-china-sea-1798924
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December 6, 2017 U.S. hits Vietnam with massive duties over Chinese steel
U.S. hits Vietnam with massive tariffs over Chinese steel - Dec. 6, 2017
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Vietnam, in a Bind, Tries to Chart a Path Between U.S. and China
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/11/...n=latest&contentPlacement=4&pgtype=collection

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Taiwan’s Military Now Overshadowed by China’s

Nov. 4, 2017 Once Formidable, Taiwan’s Military Now Overshadowed by China’s
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/04/...n=latest&contentPlacement=3&pgtype=collection
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Taiwan: For decades, the Taiwanese have lived in fear of invasion from Chinese forces.
The tiny island has stayed independent thanks to military equipment, political support and
promises from the United States, an ally. But Taiwan president Ma has made it a high priority
to improve Taiwan’s relationship with China. That has largely equated to giving in to Beijing.

January 2016 Will the Two Chinas Become One?
https://www.thetrumpet.com/article/13327.18.180.0/asia/will-the-two-chinas-become-one
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September, 2017 China Will ‘Aggressively’ Attack U.S. Naval Ships Docking In Taiwan
China Will 'Aggressively' Attack U.S. Naval Ships Docking In Taiwan
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The Chinese Invasion Threat by Ian Easton, a China affairs analyst with
the Project 2049 Institute, a think tank.

October 3, 2017 China’s Secret Military Plan: Invade Taiwan by 2020. According
to the book, China's invasion plan is known as the Joint Island Attack Campaign.
China's Secret Military Plan: Invade Taiwan by 2020

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U.S. forces might return to Taiwan

Top Trump adviser Bolton backs U.S. forces in Taiwan, lessen Okinawa burden
https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2...-backs-stationing-forces-taiwan/#.Wlvh_dQrJkg

Bolton said Washington “could enhance its East Asia military posture by increasing
U.S. military sales to Taiwan and by again stationing military personnel and assets there.”
 

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Panama and China Strengthen Ties, U.S. could lose access to the Canal in trade dispute

June 2017 Panama cut ties with Taiwan and established diplomatic relations with China.
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/06/12/pan...-china-ditches-taiwan-in-win-for-beijing.html
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The One-China policy is the policy or view that there is only one sovereign state called "China",
despite the existence of two governments that claim to be "China". As a policy, this means that
countries seeking diplomatic relations with the People's Republic of China (PRC) must break
official relations with the Republic of China (ROC, Taiwan) and vice versa.[1][2]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-China_policy

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Five months later, on November 17, Chinese President Xi Jinping and Panamanian President
Juan Carlos Varela met in China to celebrate the opening of Panama’s first embassy in Beijing.

The two leaders witnessed the signing of 19 agreements on Friday which include the opening of
negotiations over a free-trade agreement between the two countries, cooperation over China’s
Belt and Road Initiative, transport infrastructure, electricity, finance, tourism and agriculture.

November 2017 Panama Opens First Embassy in China After Axing Taiwan Ties
https://telesurtv.net/english/news/...na-After-Axing-Taiwan-Ties-20171116-0040.html
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November 2017 Panama and China sign accord on maritime transport
Panama and China sign accord on maritime transport
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November 2017 Panama pact to signal surge in investment
Panama pact to signal surge in investment | South China Morning Post


With the normalisation in relations, Chinese companies will now be looking to extend
their activities deep into Latin America – right in the US backyard.
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Panama Canal is a major sea gate that helped bring the U.S. to the height of its power.
If China controls the Panama Canal, it can easily use it as a choke point to strangle the
U.S. economy. It would pose a major threat to United States security and trade route.
 

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Chinese government is stealing America’s intellectual property. China has earned an
international reputation in recent decades as being the home of a prolific copycat culture.

U.S. Defense officials have stated that Chinese military hackers undertaking “technical
reconnaissance” have succeeded in pilfering highly classified technical documents on a
number of occasions. The sensitive technical data that is known to have been compromised
is now evident in the latest versions of several Chinese weapons.
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Aug. 2017 The Chinese government is stealing America’s intellectual property.
http://christianchat.com/christian-...tealing-americaa-s-intellectual-property.html
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South China Morning Post has reported that Chinese scientists have been allowed to
work for decades on advanced military projects in the Department of Energy’s Nat.
Laboratories. Many have been lured back to China to work on its defense projects.

In fact, so many Chinese have returned to their home country from Las Alamos
that they have been nicknamed the “Los Alamos Club.”
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A Chinese national, Su Bin, 51, was sent to prison for his part in stealing
US military plans, include plans for the F-35 and F-22 fighter jets

China’s Military Built with Cloned Weapons
https://news.usni.org/2015/10/27/chinas-military-built-with-cloned-weapons

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China proudly debuts its new stealth jet it built
‘by hacking into US computers and stealing plans’
https://johnib.wordpress.com/2016/1...hacking-into-us-computers-and-stealing-plans/


China weapons production gears up.

June 2017: China launches its first homemade destroyer.
https://www.realcleardefense.com/articles/2017/07/11/china_builds_maritime_muscle_111779.html


April 2017: China launches its first homemade aircraft carrier.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/...ils-new-aircraft-carrier-much-fanfare-n751191
 

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January 04, 2018 Coming to Grips With a Rising China-By Ramon Marks
https://www.realcleardefense.com/articles/2018/01/04/coming_to_grips_with_a_rising_china_112858.html
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January 4, 2018 Forget North Korea or Russia: The Real Threat to America Is China
https://www.yahoo.com/news/forget-north-korea-russia-real-140100615.html
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December, 2017 Military assessment: Major report warns US ‘will lose the next war’
THE USA’s ability to defend its allies has been called into question, with warnings ...
‘US will lose next war’ RAND report warns
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An Interactive Look at the U.S.-China Military Scorecard
https://www.rand.org/paf/projects/us-china-scorecard.html


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September, 2017 China’s New Gold-Backed Oil: a major blow to the petrodollar
http://christianchat.com/christian-...w-gold-backed-oil-major-blow-petrodollar.html

China surpassed the United States as "the world's largest oil importer"
What does all this mean for the markets?
 

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Another sensationalist statement supposedly backed by a text. Misusing the Bible in this way by enough end time fanatics could in my opinion create the very conditions they long for. There are enough lunatics in high positions to result in wish fulfillment
 
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Another sensationalist statement supposedly backed by a text.
Misusing the Bible in this way by enough end time fanatics
could in my opinion create the very conditions they long for.
So what recent text link now do you call in question?
Misusing the Bible? where in this [news thread] was the bible used?
Another statement by you with only your opinion to back it up?

So who here longs for war like you say? or you just calling me a fanatic?
Just posting links by me does not mean I want war, or can cause it by my part.

But the bible does say there will be another war, nothing will stop that.
The bible also says to watch for events, not stick your head in the sand.

There are enough lunatics in high positions to result in wish fulfillment
you mean like In 2012,when Khamenei told the people of Iran: “We must prepare for the coming.

"Since we consider ourselves the warriors of the 12th imam, we must fight. Under the
leadership of God, and with his invisible Power, we will restore the glory of Islamic Civilization.”

As Joel Rosenberg, former aide to Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu, said,

n order to bring about this Islamic messiah, the Mahdi, the 12th imam, Islamic leaders
need to hasten his coming by destroying little Satan, Israel, and the great Satan, the United States. …

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or the sensationalist that say Christ will not return, to rule earth with a rod of iron.
 

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it is obvious that this is no where near a practicing 'Christian country' need I say more?

satan's flag is unfurling at such a rapid pace, and there are many who already
perceive this and there are many, many, more who do not...

oh yes, ww3 is inching in here, daily - if one can't see this, then they are still
living the 'good-ole' life of/in 'wally-world'...

thankfully, the patience of Jesus' saints will 'stand-apart' in the world's drunken spiritual spree...

don't get to comfortable, for soon, reality will school every dis-believer!
 

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PA,

thank you so much for your loving, enlightening posts, which we are positive that our Saviour
has led you to Post & Warn, you are very brave and stand out as a true minister
of the Truth of God...