Christian Singer Comes Out

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kaylagrl

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JennaLeanne said:
I think this is a gossip thread. Because he's a singer what?He is a broken brother with struggles.. We should pray for him and his family not discuss what we don't agree with.. Our fight is not physical.. xx
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I don't appreciate your assumption, at all. I did not mean for this to be a gossip thread. I posted it because it shows how the bondage of sin can destroy lives. I have a friend that has come out as transgender. His wife has been trying for years to get pregnant and now has found out her husband has been taking hormones all these years. It shows how selfish sin makes us. I believe that is what I said in the OP. He believes God condones his lifestyle, the fact that it destroys lives so he can be gay and have what he wants shows the selfishness of sin. Adultery and divorce has also done the same thing. But the OP is about this particular person.
 
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I don't get this. How can somebody choose to become gay? Why would somebody even want to be gay? Doesn't that require some sort of leaning towards that lifestyle in the first place? Maybe I'm just too stupid to comprehend this, or maybe it is because I don't know any gay people? Do they even exist? Ok, I've seen them in the media, but irl, no.
 
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kaylagrl

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Yeraza_Bats said:
I think this conversation hangs on a thin wire : p I took that post to mean those who deal with the temptation, and not like those who actually in their heart wish they could do these things but dont just to "appease" the Lord : p

Temptation is not a sin. Making the conscious choice to follow it is, including doing so in your heart without following it out in your actions.
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Temptation is not a sin,no. But to say its alright to have a desire for a particular sin and that it wont soon lead to actions if we dont bring it the Lord is false thinking to me. Im a married woman, if I have a desire for another married man in church,but I dont act on it, is there no sin involved? What Im desiring is sin. If I continue that desire do you not think it will eventually lead me to fall? Very thin line I think.
 
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I'm not implying that anyone should accept anything. But you don't have the right to tell someone what they can and can't do based on your religion. What if a Muslim told me I can't eat a pork chop because it's against his religion. Live your life according to your beliefs and convictions and let everyone else do the same. It's not really that complicated
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This is not a Muslim country. At one time it was a country based on Judeo/Christian values and we ran the country accordingly. That day is long gone.
 
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kaylagrl

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jennymae said:
I don't get this. How can somebody choose to become gay? Why would somebody even want to be gay? Doesn't that require some sort of leaning towards that lifestyle in the first place? Maybe I'm just too stupid to comprehend this, or maybe it is because I don't know any gay people? Do they even exist? Ok, I've seen them in the media, but irl, no.
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Sin is always a choice,according to the Bible. Why would anyone choose to be an alcoholic, an adulterer,a drug addict etc? It letting sin take a foothold and the next thing we are on the path that leads to death.
 
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Temptation is not a sin,no. But to say its alright to have a desire for a particular sin and that it wont soon lead to actions if we dont bring it the Lord is false thinking to me. Im a married woman, if I have a desire for another married man in church,but I dont act on it, is there no sin involved? What Im desiring is sin. If I continue that desire do you not think it will eventually lead me to fall? Very thin line I think.
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I dont think having those thoughts come to your head, but you denying them because you know they are wrong, would be sin. I would agree that after those thoughts are put into your head, and you decide that sounds like something youd wanna do is sin, yeah. But just having the thoughts put into your head? No. I read the post to mean that, dealing with it but setting your heart on God.
 
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JennaLeanne said:
I think this is a gossip thread. Because he's a singer what?He is a broken brother with struggles.. We should pray for him and his family not discuss what we don't agree with.. Our fight is not physical.. xx
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If the man in question did not make his sexuality known then it would be gossip, however he himself made the announcement therefore it is news, not gossip. And for the record, I couldn't care less about people's sexuality.

Its time people shut up about their bedroom desires. Christianity is under attack and millions of children are starving, yet this singer thinks its important to tell the world he loves men. WHO CARES! Kayla, the last sentence is not deemed at you, but the singer in question, whatever his name is, I don't care.
 
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jennymae said:
I don't get this. How can somebody choose to become gay? Why would somebody even want to be gay? Doesn't that require some sort of leaning towards that lifestyle in the first place? Maybe I'm just too stupid to comprehend this, or maybe it is because I don't know any gay people? Do they even exist? Ok, I've seen them in the media, but irl, no.
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People follow it because its pleasing to them. People do whatever is pleasing to them, and being with someone of the same gender is pleasing to some people. Not everyone feels pleased by stealing, but those who dont may feel pleased by gossiping and spreading lies about others they dont like. Its the same thing with sexual immorality.

And yeah, there are people who practice homosexuality. Its not that they have a gene that forces them into this or any of that earthly attempts at an alternative explanation. The people who do it felt that it was pleasing to them and live it out, just like we all do. It appealed to them and they follow it, even though they are fully capable of saying no to it.

(Im sure no one thinks youre stupid btw : p )
 
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People follow it because its pleasing to them. People do whatever is pleasing to them, and being with someone of the same gender is pleasing to some people. Not everyone feels pleased by stealing, but those who dont may feel pleased by gossiping and spreading lies about others they dont like. Its the same thing with sexual immorality.

And yeah, there are people who practice homosexuality. Its not that they have a gene that forces them into this or any of that earthly attempts at an alternative explanation. The people who do it felt that it was pleasing to them and live it out, just like we all do. It appealed to them and they follow it, even though they are fully capable of saying no to it.

(Im sure no one thinks youre stupid btw : p )
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The thought of . . .

eh, never mind. I'll get banned for that one.
 
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Utah said:
If the man in question did not make his sexuality known then it would be gossip, however he himself made the announcement therefore it is news, not gossip. And for the record, I couldn't care less about people's sexuality.

Its time people shut up about their bedroom desires. Christianity is under attack and millions of children are starving, yet this singer thinks its important to tell the world he loves men. WHO CARES! Kayla, the last sentence is not deemed at you, but the singer in question, whatever his name is, I don't care.
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I saw this report (on an alternative media show) about a report from some progressive media outlet about a man who lives his life as a dog. They went on about how hard his life is and all he wants is to be accepted and junk. And the reporters or whatever on the show I was watching pointed out how there was real actual sadness in the world, people starving and being persecuted and all that. And these people covered a story about a man who wished he was a dog like it was some tragic thing.

It is pretty ridiculous.
 
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I saw this report (on an alternative media show) about a report from some progressive media outlet about a man who lives his life as a dog. They went on about how hard his life is and all he wants is to be accepted and junk. And the reporters or whatever on the show I was watching pointed out how there was real actual sadness in the world, people starving and being persecuted and all that. And these people covered a story about a man who wished he was a dog like it was some tragic thing.

It is pretty ridiculous.
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I'll give him one good beating for peeing on the rug and his dog days will end right quick! :mad:
 
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People follow it because its pleasing to them. People do whatever is pleasing to them, and being with someone of the same gender is pleasing to some people. Not everyone feels pleased by stealing, but those who dont may feel pleased by gossiping and spreading lies about others they dont like. Its the same thing with sexual immorality.

And yeah, there are people who practice homosexuality. Its not that they have a gene that forces them into this or any of that earthly attempts at an alternative explanation. The people who do it felt that it was pleasing to them and live it out, just like we all do. It appealed to them and they follow it, even though they are fully capable of saying no to it.

(Im sure no one thinks youre stupid btw : p )
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Aren't you saying that they are somehow born like that? To me it is very strange to hear that being gay is pleasing, and that makes me think how choosing to become gay is even possible.
 
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jennymae said:
Aren't you saying that they are somehow born like that? To me it is very strange to hear that being gay is pleasing, and that makes me think how choosing to become gay is even possible.
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Were you born with the urge for sex? Or did it come about later in life as you grew older?
 
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kaylagrl

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jennymae said:
Aren't you saying that they are somehow born like that? To me it is very strange to hear that being gay is pleasing, and that makes me think how choosing to become gay is even possible.
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No one is born gay. If they are God is a liar, and evil on top of that. To say homosexuality is an abomination after creating people as gay, how cruel is that? When someone says they wouldn't choose to be gay they are talking about how others see the gay lifestyle that disagree with them. They dont want to be told its wrong or a sin. But do they want to be gay,yes,they do. If not they would stop,the same as any other sin.
 
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I dont think its a gossip thread. This is someone with the power of influence over those who listen to his music. And not just with his music, but also by the way he lives his life and the things hell say outside of his music. So when a young Christian whos just learning to come to the Lord, especially one who may be starting to deal with these urges himself, sees this man, he will think that it must be okay, but this man loves the Lord and is doing it. He will put this mans life and actions over the word of God, and follow him. It works to lead others away from God. By living this life, he becomes a tool of satan. Call it hate speech, but thats what it is.

And this is an online forum, a place for discussion. It is good to have these discussions, too. That young new believer I was talking about may be here reading this thread, too. We should be there to console them to the Lord if we need to.
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Yes for sure... I just feel like Christians get shocked when someone in the limelight "sins" ya know what I mean ? Like we all do it everyday.. I just see that if we put the time into prayer instead of discussing about what he has done then ya know... My opinion though. I feel compassion for his heart, Also your right about young people but we are to raise our children and those around us to not be moved by what they see ya know... It's not the first Christian to come out gay and it won't be the last.. Discussing his "sin" isn't going to protect young people is it ? Calling him a tool of satan is also a little harsh... The Lord can do anything, his love dosent stop pursuing his children... Let's pray for him :)
 
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kaylagrl

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Yes for sure... I just feel like Christians get shocked when someone in the limelight "sins" ya know what I mean ? Like we all do it everyday.. I just see that if we put the time into prayer instead of discussing about what he has done then ya know... My opinion though. I feel compassion for his heart, Also your right about young people but we are to raise our children and those around us to not be moved by what they see ya know... It's not the first Christian to come out gay and it won't be the last.. Discussing his "sin" isn't going to protect young people is it ? Calling him a tool of satan is also a little harsh... The Lord can do anything, his love dosent stop pursuing his children... Let's pray for him :)
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Quote ". I just feel like Christians get shocked when someone in the limelight "sins" ya know what I mean ? "

No,thats not the issue really. The issue is sinning and saying God accepts my lifestyle of sin and you should too. Pray for them,yes. But you cannot allow that influence in the church. There was a reason some sins received the death penalty in the OT. Just because we are now living in the time of grace does not mean we allow sin to take over the church.
 
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That he even managed to suppress his homosexuality that long and have babies with a woman makes me think that he might have bisexual tendencies. Just saying. Of course I'm no expert on these things.
 
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kaylagrl said:
I don't appreciate your assumption, at all. I did not mean for this to be a gossip thread. I posted it because it shows how the bondage of sin can destroy lives. I have a friend that has come out as transgender. His wife has been trying for years to get pregnant and now has found out her husband has been taking hormones all these years. It shows how selfish sin makes us. I believe that is what I said in the OP. He believes God condones his lifestyle, the fact that it destroys lives so he can be gay and have what he wants shows the selfishness of sin. Adultery and divorce has also done the same thing. But the OP is about this particular person.
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Sorry if I offended you kayla, Yes i agree.. Sin ruins lives.. us discussing his life isn't gonna change that though is it? Is all I mean... There's always hope and restoration in Jesus name.. Like I just feel like alot of Christians "tut" at this like they can't believe it, it's a little naive x
 
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"At the close of the interview he later commented he expected to go up like a struck match at judgment" He didnt really say that, I just thought it seemed fitting. :D Carry on!
 
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kaylagrl said:
Quote ". I just feel like Christians get shocked when someone in the limelight "sins" ya know what I mean ? "

No,thats not the issue really. The issue is sinning and saying God accepts my lifestyle of sin and you should too. Pray for them,yes. But you cannot allow that influence in the church. There was a reason some sins received the death penalty in the OT. Just because we are now living in the time of grace does not mean we allow sin to take over the church.
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Of course, I agree completely. The word of God is alive and active, it's the word itself that brings conviction to our hearts... I'm sure he dosent need every Christian all over the world telling him he a sinner. Like how lost he is that he believes the lie is heart wrenching... Let compassion move us not judgement xx
 
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